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Ep.159 - Out of the Matrix: Reclaiming Health Through Nature, Truth and Community

Kim Mellor Season 3 Episode 159

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John Kemp shares his profound wisdom on holistic health, revealing how sunlight and our relationship with nature might be more important than diet and exercise for optimal wellbeing.

• The age of information has caused overwhelm and inaction in health choices, with many people outsourcing their innate wisdom to external sources
• Societal and economic systems profit from illness through fast food, alcohol, and pharmaceutical products
• Trauma often leads to unhealthy coping mechanisms and emotional eating patterns
• Blue light exposure from technology directly correlates with rising rates of metabolic disease
• Morning sunlight exposure combined with grounding on earth helps reset our circadian rhythms and mitochondrial function
• The ancient Greek concept of "Henosis" refers to mystical universal oneness - the state of union with the divine
• John envisions creating community centers that combine health, education, and spiritual practice in harmony with nature
• Retreats offer transformative experiences but need integration support afterward to create lasting change
• Four simple, free practices for better health: get outside in nature, move your body, do it with people you love, and play
• Creating supportive community spaces allows us to tune our individual "instruments" to harmonize with the divine orchestration of life

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Speaker 1:

Hello Soul Diggers. Welcome to another guest episode with my dear friend and brother, john Kemp. John is a holistic fitness and wellness coach, yoga teacher, author and founder of Kemp Fitness Professional and Henosis Academy. With a foundation in kinesiology, functional movement, nutrition and deep study in mindfulness and eastern philosophy, john integrates physical strength and spiritual awakening. John has been professionally training clients and athletes on all levels since 2010, teaching yoga and meditation since 2013 and facilitating retreats around the world since 2018. His retreats and teachings are rooted in the principles of living yoga and he invites people to realign with nature, reconnect with purpose and remember the oneness with all that is. This episode is deep. It is going to be one of those episodes where you will want to listen again and again and again, because john's wisdom is so profound and deep and will invite you into places within yourself that maybe you have not been before. So enjoy this episode and welcome John Kemp. So welcome again, john Kemp, to the Soul Digger podcast. How are you today?

Speaker 2:

I'm fantastic feeling great, great. Had a nice morning, a little sauna, some kriya and I've got my god matcha, so I'm ready for a good podcast of course you've done all that before 6 am, because it's 6 am in maury right now.

Speaker 1:

Of course you've done all those things. For anyone who does not know john kemp, like seriously, this guy is legit and I remember when we first connected I had never felt such a grounded, present, masculine man as when I met you. So you have been this blueprint of how it gets to be relating, either romantically or friendship or just as a human. You know, feeling that grounded, masculine presence, who, someone who is true to their word. And that's when I feel thinking, feeling to you. You're someone who's so devoted to to their body, to their word, to their mission and really being of service to the world. And you happen to look like Thor, with the long hair and the beard and all the things, yeah, so thank you for being that example for me. Like I feel you really helped me to heal my nervous system around the masculine and what it felt like to truly be held. So thank you, my friend of course.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's one of the yeah, I mean you really I appreciate the reflection because I strive to embody those qualities and it. I really do believe that the body is this, this vessel, this conduit for navigating the human experience, but also for learning, and the expression of integrity and devotion are two qualities you spoke on that I really value and try to embody as much as I can.

Speaker 1:

Even your voice is like I am here for you, to protect you and provide for you. It's just I love it. And on that note about the body and health, you know it's it sounds so simple to take care of your body first and foremost, know what you're putting in your mouth, understand your body. Why is it that so many people maybe abuse the health or maybe are disconnected from their health?

Speaker 2:

oh my gosh, that's such a deep question. I feel like we could just podcast on that one question. So many reasons.

Speaker 2:

Um, let's just let's see what we can run through. First, the age of information, and I believe I was speaking about this on a podcast recently of we've moved past the age of information and we're actually moving into the age of embodiment or the age of integration, where it's actually a returning to the innate wisdom within us rather than seeking externally some source of knowledge. It's time to apply the knowledge, to create wisdom, direct experience, to actually embody health, rather than read another article about what is healthy and what is not healthy and the three top hooks to you know, improve your XYZ on the surface. And like one of my favorite quotes is, you can read every book on swimming and never actually learn how to swim until you get in the water and start paddling. And so many people have outsourced their own wisdom, their their own empowered sovereignty by seeking resource outside of themselves instead of tuning in to the knowledge that is already within them.

Speaker 2:

And so inundation from the external causes inaction. So people are fight, flight, freeze. They're freezing because there's just so much. It's an overwhelm. I get that all the time in consultations with clients. Is they're just, I don, freezing because there's just so much. It's an overwhelm. I get that all the time in consultations with clients is they're just I don't even. There's so much information being thrown at me. Do I go vegan? Do I go carnivore? Do I go keto? I just don't know what to do because there's so many options and there's some psychology behind that too. You give people too many options, they don't make a decision at all, and so overload of information is definitely one issue, and technology is a big part of that. That's one of the blessings and the curses. The double edged sword of information and technology is it can actually cause more overwhelm and confusion and inaction at the end of the day. Action at the end of the day.

Speaker 2:

And then also we have to look at the external sources of influence, the, the people and the organizations that are looking to make a profit off of the time, attention and well-being, the manipulation of the time, the tension and well-being. The manipulation of the time, the tension and well-being of humanity in the planet, the classic, you know jarhead from Avatar colonialist, industrialist, capitalist mentality, monarchist mentality of control, divide and conquer. That's obviously very present. 2020 was such a great example of that. Like there's predators that still exist in the world, and just because they're not holding spears, that doesn't mean that they're not coming after your village and your kids, and so you have to be really mindful about the you know places that you, the people, places and things you engage with, because not everybody's out for your best interest, and so that's. Another factor is look at the way the socioeconomic system is set up in certain areas, especially when you look at income and then look at the infrastructure of what types of resources are being offered to those communities liquor stores and fast food on every corner, etc, like there's clearly people making a lot of money off of making humans sick and again 2020, very strong indicator of that. Whether it comes from somebody in a white lab coat up on a podium trying to sell you something pharmaceutical, or if it's coming in a paper bag wrapped in grease or a liquor bottle, you know like it's, it's coming at us from all angles, and so that's obviously another really big factor.

Speaker 2:

And then I would also say trauma. Coping is another huge factor. You know emotional eating, comfort food there's definitely some of that occurring as well. It's just another outlet. Addictions are often caused by. They're an effect of isolation, an effect of trauma, where, when you put people that have, you know addictions or you know strong childhood trauma and such. If you put them in healthy environments with other healthy people that they can model, a lot of those behaviors go away. You know like retreat centers and stuff where people go. It's just a healthy environment that they're in and then if you put that alcoholic back in the bar they go back to drinking. You put them in a retreat center with trees around them and nice people and you're doing yoga and stuff. That stuff just kind of naturally goes away.

Speaker 2:

I've had people come for fasting retreats out here on Maui, never fasted a day in their life. And one of them was really dependent on alcohol, got drunk the night before the flight coming out here and she fasted for four and a half days on water and it completely changed her life. She realized if I have the power to not eat food for four and a half days, then I can. I have and not drink alcohol, which I haven't gone four and a half days without drinking alcohol and I don't know when. Then I have the power to stop drinking. I have the power to break up with my abusive, toxic boyfriend. That's, you know, enabling me and, you know, exacerbating the problems.

Speaker 2:

So you know, I think environment is such a big factor which is kind of number two there. You know the influences in the environment can either be positive or negative. There's, you know, even the information as well. You know the overload of information and then just uh, coping is such a big issue for people of you know they're trying to biochemically balance their hormones through the. You know imbalances that are caused from all the environmental exposure to all these unhealthy stimuli and you know they're just looking for a moment of escape, a moment of relief, a moment of comfort. And you know that dopamine hit from sugar, salt and fat, whatever it may be. You know it's difficult to blame in that situation because I've been there personally.

Speaker 2:

That's what I grew up in, as a household that we grew up in a trailer. At a certain point we were eating corn dogs and Hot Pockets and fast food 24-7. And we didn't even know, I didn't know what healthy food was. I didn't even grow up with that. I grew up with obese parents. You know over 300 pounds. My sister was over 400 pounds at a point. And you know emotional eating. You're happy, you celebrate, let's eat, let's go get donuts. Oh, you're sad like oh, let's go get ice cream, it'll make you feel better. It's like it was just this attachment to food as a way to you know, associate positive experiences with whatever you were dealing with. And so you know there's a lot of conditioning around the health industry and the fitness industry and there's purposeful confusion.

Speaker 2:

And so I think one of the biggest things that we can do is just put it all down, go outside, go for a walk. You know like that's the thing is, like most people know what to do. They really actually know what to do. It's not like you said right at the beginning. It's like most of this stuff is pretty simple. It's like don't eat fast food. That's pretty, you know. Stop eating junk food. That's not a no brain, that's that one's a no-brainer. That's not like rocket science. Go outside for walks and get some sunshine on your skin. You know like there's some. You know, of course, there's again confusion on these subjects, but innately, I think we know the.

Speaker 1:

The basic wisdom is already within us of what we need to do to take care of the human organism john kemp, everybody, john Kemp, everybody you see what I mean like he is the most deep, just resourced, wise man I've ever met. Thank you for sharing such in-depth wisdom because, you know, it's all just a distraction, isn't it? It's all just a distraction, isn't it? It's a distraction from us connecting to ourselves and even like the sunlight thing, you know people thinking they need to wear sunglasses when the sun is out. How, bonkers, can you just like bust that myth for anyone who's maybe in the sunshine wearing the sunglasses right now?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, there's some great research on this actually and it's getting a lot more attention recently, which I'm so grateful for. And I want to say this was last summer, for myself even, or maybe it was two summers ago now at this point and maybe, yeah, I think it was two years ago at this point I came across um, a neurosurgeon, a former neurosurgeon named jack cruz dr jack cruz you guys can look him up K-R-U-S-E. He did a podcast on Rick Rubin's channel, the Tetragrammaton, with Andrew Huberman, and it was a two-part podcast. The first is four hours, the second is two hours or two and a half hours. It's like a six and a half hour podcast and it's an absolute banger.

Speaker 2:

And I'm a nerd. I love the science and I've always been the fitness and nutrition guy like that's fitness was my whole life. And then in 2013, I had a life-changing moment where I realized, okay, if I want to be one of the best in the world, I have to really walk the walk, and nutrition is very obviously a super important part of the health and fitness conversation, and so I need to. I need to be the example, and so I started jerfing just eat real food.

Speaker 1:

I found that on some um Facebook page for anyone who might have misheard that jerfing is not what you might think it is in the UK. Are you jerfing off?

Speaker 2:

No, yeah, I get texts from my clients all the time Like the funniest shit, talking about jerf jerfing. Oh, I made this jerfy meal. I'm jerfing off in the kitchen. Jerf is just eat real food. We've taken it further. Surf is sort of eating real food when you know it's like not super healthy, but it's only like a little bit. And then nerf is not eating real food. So and jerf can apply to the lifestyle in general. We call it jerf life. So like nerfing would be staying inside in blue light environments, getting radiated by wi-fi and eating shitty food and not exercising. Like nerf is a encompasses the entire lifestyle of just not being healthy. And then jerf is jerf life being healthy, going outside, getting sunlight, being involved in nature and so on. But um, jack cruz blew my lid because he started dropping some banger science on sunlight and light and artificial light and blue light and non-native VMFs, aka 5G Wi-Fi, bluetooth. And I love science and, like any good scientist, you have to be able to remove your ego from the evidence because science changes. That's the whole point of science is, as we learn, we go. Oh, I was wrong. This is actually the truth now and that's a big part of you know all of the misinformation around the scientific community is there's so much money and so much ego in in the scientific space. Like who's funding the study? How attached are those researchers to that information? You know, if it's there, like I love?

Speaker 2:

There is an analogy by Gray Cook in a podcast I listened to years ago and he was talking about how 2d map makers went through like a life crisis when they found out the world was round which probably already you know some people flat earthers out there, lol but they had to complete their whole life's work of making a flat earth actually was wrong. And then they found out it was a sphere. And then they had to start changing the way the map was made to match the actual evidence that they were acquiring. And, like so many 2d map makers were like no, fuck that, I'm not changing that. No, they were too rigid in their belief. Because it's like that stockholm syndrome you have to admit that you're guilty of being wrong before you can, you know, move into the new way of being. And that denial can be really strong if the ego is attached to what is known, the old, same issue that you see of like there's so much money and there's so much ego in the space that a lot of old, indoctrinated, dogmatic beliefs still exist, and it takes. It took, you know, as he said in that podcast, it took 30 years or longer for the whole world to shift into this new understanding and way of being that the earth was round and then started making maps. I mean like they were killing people for saying that stuff at a certain point in our history. Right, so we look at this new information coming out about.

Speaker 2:

You know there's so much on how fitness and nutrition are the answer for metabolic disease and chronic disease, and I was in that camp because I started studying epigenetics in 2013, which is, basically the environment influences the expression of your genes. I like the example of Texas Hold'em. If anybody's played that poker game, you get two cards and then there's five laid on the table. The two cards are like your genetics. Everybody does get a base set of genetic code that does influence your life experience, like you're only gonna be so tall you can't change your height, you can't change your skin color then the five cards on the table influence the phenotype or the expression of that gene. Epi means on top of genetics, on top of your genes, and so if you're getting a lot of good sunlight as the first card, and water and food and exercise and community are the five cards on the table. Then with your two cards, that's how you add up your score and you've got a royal flush. So if you've got a bunch of positive environmental factors, they'll actually turn up the expression of your you know off suit and not the same number of what you have. Nothing matches up. Then you're not going to express the healthy genes. It's actually like a dimmer switch or a thermostat is one of the simple analogies where you're actually turning down the expression of your healthy genes and turning up the expression of the unhealthy genes, the genes that then have the opportunity to mutate and you know express as cancer or dis-ease. You're out of balance. Nothing is matching up. So the environment plays a really important role in how you express health or express dis-ease, which is just out of balance, out of ease with your homeostatic state, your natural state, and so fitness and nutrition big on that list.

Speaker 2:

I've I always have been preaching that, you know, in my professional career fitness, my whole life, nutrition since 2013, and then I listened to this jack cruz podcast in 2023 I think, whenever it came out and it blew my mind because he started dropping the science on light. And intuitively, I've been doing yoga, I've been diligently working with plant medicine and psychedelics for the last 12-13 years, living a super healthy lifestyle, getting outside, being in nature and allowing the wisdom of nature, grounding my feet on the earth, allowing the sunlight to be on my skin regularly, getting getting first light, sunrise like almost every single morning, and naturally noting intuitively how I'm starting to awaken and activate these genes, this DNA, this memory within me, this ancestral memory of what healthy living really is, that that innate wisdom within all of us, of those simple basic things of like, yeah, you know what, probably just going for a walk every day and getting sunlight on your skin and like staying off tech as much as possible is probably the healthiest thing we can do. Like that stuff just comes to you naturally, you start expressing it from the inside out and embodying it because you're directly experiencing it and immersing yourself in nature and we are the embodiment of the expression of nature. And so spending time in nature naturally allows us to get those cards on the table lined up with our genetics and our code and things start, buttons start getting pushed, we start turning on, awakening and you know you start expressing health. And so when he started talking about sunlight and the science of sunlight, it blew my mind because he actually made a really good case for how light is actually more important than diet and exercise and I was like hold on, because I've always taught it I have three pillars fitness or movement, nutrition and lifestyle design. And lifestyle design encompasses sleep, stress management, environment. You know all those factors and light is over there in there, but it wasn't at the top of my list, above fitness and nutrition, and he brought up so many good points.

Speaker 2:

One really quick, easy one is that people with mitochondrial diseases have that, have perfect diets and exercise regularly, still don't get better because their electron chain transport system and their mitochondrial function is impaired. And that's because of a dysregulated circadian rhythm, which is because they're not tuned to the biological clock of the earth, which is the sun that creates all life that we know. And so by getting them into a regular sun bathing routine, if you will, their diseases would get better and their mitochondria would function better. And so it shows that light is actually more important. And this is also a great breakdown of, like any food, anything that we are that we eat is just synthesized light, like the plant is synthesizing the light, photosynthesis, literally and then we're either eating that plant, which is just, you know, the light turned into matter, or the animal is eating the plant and then turning that into meat and its, its body cells, tissues, and then we're eating that. So, ultimately, we're eating different forms of light, from light to matter, and this is like quantum mechanics can show this that, like, light is just consciousness slowed down, matter is just light slowed down at a different frequency, and so that was all making sense to me. I'm like, okay, we are what we eat, we are what we eat, eats, and ultimately, all that goes back. If you go back all the way to the source, it's the sun, and so, okay, this is starting to make sense, and I I did a seven day drive, fast back in 2013.

Speaker 2:

And no food, no water whatsoever, and I felt great. I actually had good energy and I had crazy downloads and I got this download that like, wow, breatharianism is a real path. Like you could do this. This is it, would. It would have changed my life trajectory, though you have to live a certain way and do certain things to actually be able to not eat food and just eat light, absorb light and prana chi energy from the air. It's possible. Though after doing seven days, I was like, wow, there's, there's some merit here, okay, and so, like sun, and that's when I really started sun gazing and like watching sun rise, the first bit of the sunrise, and absorbing that light, that nutrition, into my body, into my being I was like, okay, there was all these bells when I was listening to his podcast going off. Then I started going down his rabbit hole and listening to a bunch of his podcasts.

Speaker 2:

He started dropping a ton more of the science, started dropping a ton more of the science and he actually started outing a lot of the companies that are essentially, by providing research, in direct contradiction to these companies, like makeup companies, sunglasses companies and sunscreen companies, like if we look at the ratio of people that were getting skin cancers and eye cancers and other disease after the invention of sunglasses, which became popularized because of basically a company trying to make money utilizing models specific model as well. That was like one of the. There was a few that they picked hollywood people and models to showcase. Oh, this is the cool thing to do. Everybody should do it. If you don't wear sunglasses, you're not cool and like that conditioning is has been there since day one and so just looking at the rates of cancer and eye degeneration related to people put covering up blocking the sun.

Speaker 2:

And then we look at now, like this whole nanoparticle, oh, blocking the sun from the atmosphere, and like okay, that's, that doesn't sound like that's a good idea. Then if we're blocking a little bit of sun on our face, like why would blocking the whole thing be good? And then we look at disease rates and chronic disease and metabolic disease. And he brought up another great point to showcase the other side of this conversation, which I think is equally as important, if not more, is that the correlation was crazy on this.

Speaker 2:

Every decade, the increase in technology use matches almost perfectly the increase in metabolic disease and obesity. So as people are using technology more, they're getting fatter, and that makes sense from the perspective of well, they're probably just sitting down inside, but it's also because they're not getting sunlight and they're actually now getting an isolated frequency of light that's partial to the full spectrum, which is just blue light. And the rabbit hole goes way deeper. He shows how DARPA and Google actually have the patents on the information surrounding how blue light actually causes problems. It causes biochemical, hormonal imbalances, it causes disease, it causes dysregulation in your circadian rhythm and your mitochondria, which is what then causes all those problems. And they actually have that information and they're not putting it out to the public.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, see, you got it you got.

Speaker 2:

I got a blue light filter on my laptop I just had to put my glasses on.

Speaker 1:

Then, when he said that, I was like oh shit, let me just get my blue blocker on now right, right for sure, like um.

Speaker 2:

You know there's a. There's um in the united states. There's a ban against in 2027 apparently, or 2026, something like that. They're looking to ban incandescent light bulbs, edison light bulbs, and they're the closest to the sun that we have amber bulbs, which is what I have in my house, and they're trying to ban them because they're not as energy efficient. And when they're talking about that, they're talking about heat emission. It's just a fucking lie. It's a fucking lie and they're trying to push blue light on as many people as they can and take away as much of the optimal light sunlight and warmer light from the human exposure.

Speaker 2:

And there's the cortisol goes up with blue light, all these things that we know the research is showing large exposure to artificial light, blue light, non-native emfs like 5g and wi-fi are messing up the human organism, they're messing up our mitochondria, they're messing up our circadian rhythm and that is the largest contributor to disease. And so that was a huge awakening moment for me where, wow, I've been telling people, I've been making 2D maps and I need to make a 3D map. I need to change my model of how I coach, from putting fitness and nutrition up here and then sunlight down here to actually yo. You need to get off technology, you need to go outside and then you need to. You know, exercise is such an easy thing to do from that level because you naturally start feeling better, you start regulating your dopamine more, which motivates you to actually want to do more things, and so you just you start feeling better and like just now. My first recommendation for people is just put the technology down and go outside, is just put the technology down and go outside. Be active as you go outside more and more. But just going outside is like step number one, and Jack Cruz's recommendation is make like the Sphinx Go outside, look east towards the rising sun as it's coming over the horizon and put your feet and your hands bare skin on the earth. So that way you're earthing, you're getting the coherence, you're grounding and regulating your nervous system. You're getting the hydrogen, the negative ions, flowing through your body, you're rapidly decreasing inflammation. You're grounding and regulating your nervous system and you're tuning your biological clock, your circadian clock, with the rising sun.

Speaker 2:

That is, in my opinion, the most important thing that we could do as a collective species is just not get on technology the first thing in the morning and make sure that you go outside and get grounded on the earth and watch the sunrise. It doesn't even have to be sunny outside. People can take a lumen reader, a light reader, and like turn all the lights on in your house and do the reading, and it will be lower than if you go outside on like a partly cloudy day and hold it outside. It'll still be significantly more light exposure outside. So it's not direct sunlight per se, it's just outdoor light. It's all sunlight coming from the sun. Outdoor light in general, even if it's cloudy, is better than being inside, especially inside exposed to non-native EMFs and blue light.

Speaker 2:

Four of my mantras now, at this point where we need to get outside, in nature, we need to move our body. We need to do it with people that we love, that are good for us, that reinforce these healthy habits and help us express healthy, healthy, express health. And we need to play. We need to have a good time when we do it and we need to. That alone is its own medicine as well, and so that getting outside, playing with your friends, doing it in in uh, you know healthy environment, moving, moving your body and getting off technology, that's. That's it like if we just did that, that would be the simplest win, and all four of those are zero dollars right.

Speaker 1:

Wow, we have just over complicated it, haven't we? Which, when you say that, it feels like, of course, we're being distracted away from the three things that actually created our life in the first place. So actually, it sounds so simple it almost doesn't sound real. You know, imagine when you walk into the doctors and, instead of them giving you a prescription, they say get sunlight in your eyes, jerf, jerf off and get outside. And honestly, I think that's the reason why I've also got a dog, like I am outside every day, and if I, for whatever reason, don't walk the dog, oh my god, I really feel it. So I feel like it's actually helping me to unlock a new level within myself because I'm outside more, being in the sunlight.

Speaker 1:

It just has to be so simple, so simple, yeah, and also what you said there about community. I know this is a huge piece for you, which is why you've created the things that you know I'd love to speak to next, and whenever a guest comes on my show, I ask them to give me their birth date, their time of birth and where they were born, and I just love being intimate with people's souls. And, of course, your north node is in Aquarius and it's in the second house, so obviously you knew that before. But tell us about that. Tell us about this age of Aquarius and your mission and why that is just so true for you.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, man, I really believe this is my greatest purpose here is to empower people to be the change they wish to see in the world. The childhood I came from, the trauma that I've been through, the pain that I've witnessed, especially witnessed in my own family members I think that's a big part of the passion that I have, the reason I have such a calling to support and uplift and encourage and inspire and protect and provide for humanity in whatever way I can. It's not some grandiose hero, complex savior, complex though those wounds have been there and I have definitely had to work through those as experiences. But it's truly out of a passion, because I've done it, I've healed myself and I've created a life of health, wealth, happiness and freedom and prosperity for myself. And we're all still going through challenges. We're all you know, we signed up for that with the human experience, contrast polarity exists, one of the hermetic principles. That's a universal law and it is necessary for us to have something to push against so we can grow, so we can learn. And eventually, when you have that aha moment, that self-realization moment as it's spoken about in yoga, the kind of david touching the finger of god moment painting by michelangelo, you have your own cosmic big bang and you realize like, oh, I am because we are I. There is no I separate from. We're all part of this living, breathing organism and this is the field, the source, the field. There's so many terms for this in all of the spiritual texts and now being validated in science, as we're studying it more with quantum mechanics and so on, and Joe Dispenza calls it the field.

Speaker 2:

I believe the quantum field and this field of oneness, of universal oneness, is actually known in ancient Greece. The ancient Greek word for this mystical, universal oneness, the Tao as it's called in the east, is he gnosis, and I was in meditation in 2016. Just nothing. I was literally on my couch on like a tuesday morning before going to work like nothing fancy and I get this word in my consciousness. He knows this. Often it's like a radio channel for me where I just I hear information that comes in and translate it into words I can understand, and I heard this word he knows this, us. I was like what's that? So I go Google it. He knows us and it's like ancient Greek, you know word for universal oneness, mystical union, and I'm like, oh, and I'd already been practicing yoga for three, four years at this point I'm teaching, so I've tapped into the yoga space and I've had some strong experiences there at this point.

Speaker 2:

And so in yoga there's eight, eight steps, there's eight branches, eight limbs to yoga. There's the yamas and the niyamas, which are the personal and the social codes of conduct to live a righteous life in harmony with the way with this field, to ascend in consciousness, to expand in your experience in a healthy way that does no harm to others and, you know, contributes to the whole. And then there's pranayama, which is breath work, basically, and then asana, which is movement of the body, and then there's pratyahara, which is withdrawal of the senses from the external experience, and then dharana, which is one pointed focus. And then dharana, which is one pointed focus, and then dhyana, which is meditation. No, pointed focus is the definition that I love there, because you, as Alan Watts would say, you don't meditate or do meditation. You become meditation, you become, you move into this state, you become this state, you dissolve the ego and move into a state of union, into oneness which merges you with the divine. The eighth step, samadhi, in yoga, is merger with union with the divine, the transcendent allness, that universal oneness, and I've had that direct experience in yoga.

Speaker 2:

Yoga is a science, folks. It's not a wishy-washy, woo-woo religion. It is a science. And the ascended masters that you all know the names of Buddha, krishna, jesus they all practiced yoga with devotion and commitment and austerity, like discipline. They practiced this as something that was like a martial art yoga. At points in different sects of um its history actually was used and is still used today as a martial art it's. It is very much a methodology that can get you from a certain point to a certain point and it's very specific in that journey. It's different for everybody as they directly experience it, but the forest that you get to. Many low, many roads lead to the same forest and when you get to that forest, you know like you have a life-changing experience the, the big bang that happens within yourself when you touch god in yourself, when you become oneness. It is, it is absolutely a life-changing experience. Samadhi is a real state that you can experience.

Speaker 2:

Nirvana, satchitananda, truth, bliss, consciousness against all these religions and and teachings talk about this experience in this space and so when I got this download about he knows this, I was like, okay, that's interesting. And I the download was this was what they studied in the ancient mystery schools, which was the mystery schools that were passed down from atlantis, the prior enlightened civilization, ancient civilization that then was trickled down to different areas of the world Central South America. There's remnants there. Egypt was one of the big hotspots where Kem ancient Kem, where this information was preserved and passed down was preserved and passed down and then from Egypt, greece got a lot of their inspiration. If you look at their gods and their religion and their spiritual beliefs, you can see the influence of Egypt and the Egyptian god of wisdom, who I have a very intimate relationship with as one of my spiritual guides. Thoth god of wisdom, who I have a very intimate relationship with as one of my spiritual guides. Thoth God of wisdom, he actually is also Hermes in the Greek religion and he's the messenger God. He's the God that is bringing that information through to humanity to help teach and uplift and inspire and empower, and so that information then kind of like inspired me in that moment of like.

Speaker 2:

Okay, I'm practicing this stuff and I'm not wearing the orange robes in this lifetime, I'm, I'm just a regular white bro, and so I have the ability with my formal education in exercise science and my understanding of the western culture and the Western mind and my ability to speak from that place of confidence and integrity and to do so in a way that is relatable and understandable by the Western mind, the Western audience. But low-key. I'm a yogi, I am a devoted yogi. You see my wall. I'm a yogi like I am a devoted yogi, like you see my wall. I have deities and and yogis, ascended masters, as, like my inspiration, like this is a merkaba behind me, this is a sri yantra. You know like I love and live this stuff so much. But low-key, I'm just teaching people yoga.

Speaker 2:

And so when I saw this and you know also in Greek, you have saw this and you know also in Greek, you have like Socrates, and you know some of the quotes about what a shame for people to not experience their, their total capacity through the human body. Like to be fit is actually, especially for men, more so, I would say, is like actually a part of your duty and responsibility to be fit to function, to be fit to serve and to be fit to lead. You need the prior to for the latter, and so the physical body is where all this information exists, in our DNA, which is the memory that holds all information, and so, as we talked about earlier, the environment is what expresses that. So, through breath, through pranayama, through movement, through asana call it strength training, call it movement, call it mobility, call it primal flow, call it yoga, call it whatever you want, names don't matter.

Speaker 2:

In this field of oneness, it's a felt experience that transcends language. And so all these cultures have been. In ancient Hawaiian, ulu and hula were the movement practices that opened the channel to the divine, so the kapuna, the elders, the priests could speak what information God was bringing through source was bringing through to the community. So this is in every culture, it's everywhere. Tai chi, qigong in the east, there's these practices all over the place, and there's all these different ancient forms of dance and movement and breath and meditation and sound, and all of these technologies that will help you to access this state, make a direct contact with this field and then, from there, move in alignment with right relationship, with the divine orchestration, the greater, the greater plan unfolding for the cosmos as this universal organism, this being that we are cells of.

Speaker 2:

And so all of this was studied and practiced all the time, but a lot of it was persecuted and there was a lot of taboo around this stuff and especially at different points, like you don't want to give the keys to the Ferrari to a toddler and so like. There are prerequisites and foundational requirements, like don't go do ayahuasca if you have a bunch of trauma that's unresolved and you don't have, if you're not healthy and if you don't meditate and have some level of grounding practice to be able to bring yourself back to center. I facilitate these retreats and these experiences, and people that come that are unhealthy by far have the hardest time every time because they have so much cleaning, clearing and healing that they need to do that they're not ready to have the direct experience. They got to clean the gunk out of the temple first before they can let the light in, and so there are levels to this game. But we're at this point now in consciousness now where we can take what was once practiced in these mystery schools and make it unmysterious. There's not the persecution.

Speaker 2:

The field of consciousness has elevated to a degree where it can comprehend and sustain this higher frequency, this level of light, without the fuse blowing the light bulb. So I believe that there's different nodes around the world where the energy is higher, these sacred sites, these, these grid points around the world, like peru, like costa rica, like maui, like Egypt, where a lot of this energy and this information still exists. And so I feel inspired, especially being called to Maui so synchronistically in 2018. Like I just the doors opened and I was gifted the opportunity to move out here literally gifted it was. The whole thing is just like, very clearly in alignment with this divine unfolding that's greater. This, this composition of beautiful music that's unfolding universe. One song that I'm just a part of. I'm just tune your instrument and play your song and allow that to harmonize with the melody that is unfolding in the universe, and life will become very beautiful, and that is what I see.

Speaker 2:

Hynosis, as for me, is this opportunity to help other people tune their instruments, to help other people start to play their song in tune with the divine melody, and that is what I feel called to now, through coming back to community, is creating spaces where people can practice this, where they're encouraged and supported to practice this, where they're guided and directed with, you know, formal education, as well as direct support from their peers and from others, other teachers who have had those experiences. Just like a hiking guide on a mountain, a hiking guide can never take you up a mountain. He's never been up before with confidence and safety because he doesn't know the route himself. He can only take you as high as he's gone. And so that's all I am, in this sense, is just a hiking guide.

Speaker 2:

You can do the hike on your own, you can make the journey on your own. I never had any formal teachers myself, but it's a lot easier and a lot more enjoyable to go on the journey with people you enjoy spending time with. The one companion asked the other what's more important, the journey or the destination? And he said the company you want to go with, you want to do it in community. It's a shared experience. You know again, we're all one living organism. So doing it on your own is great.

Speaker 2:

And you know, creating competence through self-mastery is absolutely foundational. That's the personal codes of conduct, that the first of the eight limbs of yoga, and then the personal codes of conduct. That the first of the eight limbs of yoga, and then the social codes. Then you know, once you have established independence and competence, then you can work on interdependence and relationship, because yoga just means to yoke huge, to bring together, to yoke together in union with right relationship with with right relationship with. It's about the dance between the masculine and the feminine energies within ourselves and then within the dance of, you know, one organism to another, us and the environment, us and the divine, and us and each other, the mirrors in our lives. And so if I can make it, anybody can make it, and you know, recognizing how I have the ability to teach this health and fitness stuff and then also integrate the traditional wisdom and ancient philosophies and esoteric practices with this grounded, foundational work in health and fitness and nutrition and like the physicality of taking care of the human organism to embody health. Now, okay, the foundation is set.

Speaker 2:

Now let's talk about these deeper layers, let's go into these more expanded, nuanced topics of whatever it might be for that individual, those nuanced branches, those paths that will lead you to that forest. And so building community is I think it was Osho, I can't remember who said this but the next Sangha, the next Christ, will be a Sangha. Sangha is a community. So the next enlightenment, the next renaissance, will be through community. It won't be individuals, it will be in communities. Communities, and that is really where we are now in the age of Aquarius is we've gone from the guru as the teacher that I need to, to model to, because I don't have the ability myself to like oh wait, hold on, let me again.

Speaker 2:

Now we go back to the embodiment, the practicality stuff. How do we do this? We put down the technology and we go outside and we sit down and we breathe, we get quiet, we remain still, be still and know thyself as god. Like that is such a banger and that is all we need to do at this point is, of course, we got to get healthy foundationally, but really we need to tune into our own inner guidance system, our own intuition. We need to tune our instrument and allow that channel of music, of information to then lead us and guide us down the path that is correct for that individual, because I see so many podcasts and people like what's the best book to read?

Speaker 2:

What's the best this to read? It's different for every single person. Where you're at on your journey. I may tell you a book that resonated for me that you'd read and be like this is the dumbest book. This has no context for me whatsoever. You need to figure out what that is for yourself by tuning into that inner guidance system and getting healthy and cutting the junk and going outside and going for walks and getting that light into the temple. Getting the guitar tuned up so you can play a note in tune will help you to be able to hear that voice of guidance within you. And if I can provide structure around being a you know virgo with so many virgo placements in my house, as you saw um, if I can provide the structure and the order and the direction for people to start to get healthy so they can then get in tune with their own system, and provide a community space where they can do it alongside brothers and sisters that they enjoy spending time with that, inspire them and uplift them and encourage them to be the best versions of themselves, then we're going to rapidly accelerate our, our change. And so I feel like maui is.

Speaker 2:

I was called to maui to build the first center here and I want to build these he knows his havens these retreat centers like there's if anybody's seen x-men, professor x's school for extraordinarily gifted children. Like it's where all the mutants go. Like I want all the mutants to come here and practice levitation and shooting fireballs, and like that's what I want is. I want to create a space where it's safe to express your gifts and express these abilities and innate this innate wisdom within you, because I believe, as the frequency continues to elevate, higher and higher frequency beings of light will be able to incarnate on this soil. You know, richer seeds will be able to be planted into the fertile earth and they're going to be the plants that provide the sustenance, provide the wisdom, the solutions for the problems that mankind has created for itself and the.

Speaker 2:

The children, the next generation, are going to be our teachers. They're going to be the masters that have the new ideas and the more we can provide an environment for them, like Rudolf Steiner, with Waldorf schools, where kids are actually outside in nature, learning how to grow food and practice art before math and before science, you know, they're naturally allowing that music to express from them and feel safe and encouraged to do so at a young age. So they don't have to traumatize, they don't have to put up all these layers and armor to defend themselves and try to fit a certain condition, societal mold. We can create these safe spaces, these safe havens for people to come together and practice living in harmony with the way and once we have one successful model here in this beautiful place where you can stick a stick in the ground and it'll grow food, because the sun and the environment and the climate and the mana here is so rich and palpable. It's healed me I can speak to that for sure.

Speaker 2:

Nature has been my greatest teacher. Beyond all of the practices, all of the workouts, all of the yoga and meditation, just sitting on the beach and allowing myself to ground into the natural rhythm of this beautiful space and tune into the wisdom of nature has been more healing and more expansive for me than anything else. And so I feel like this is the perfect place to create the 1.0 model and then from there, once we have a successful business model, you know, take, you know farm to table and performance Institute and holistic healing center, retreat center and merge them together and you've got a community center where people can live on the land, with the land, they can practice these western, more western techniques and methods of you know, exercise and fitness and learning about the science of light and nutrition why that's important but also meditation and breath work and yoga and Qigong and community and art and music and dance, and we can take those and we can merge them together and create a new way. That's really just remembering the old way, and then we can replicate that model all over the world, wherever it wants to express, wherever the the next spaces will pop up, likely around these other energetic hot spots that are naturally amplifying the frequency and the opportunity for humans to come into coherence. That's what I feel he gnosis is, and, you know, coming back to embodiment and integrity starts with me first.

Speaker 2:

A leader of one is a leader of many. If you cannot lead one, you cannot lead any. And so the last seven years coming up on my seven year cycle on Maui in a few months has been my incubation period of getting myself ready and maybe I got another seven. You know I'm far from perfect. I got a lot of work yet to do, but I am diligent and devoted to doing that work because of this vision that I have and have spoken to is so clear and so strong in me. I feel the emotion just talking about it because, again, if I could do it on my own, can you imagine if we had a community in this beautiful space where people could come and do it together? If we had a community in this beautiful space where people could come and do it together, man, it would save time and energy and then the inspiration would get out to the public and people could come and, you know, the kids could play movement, nature, community play, like we can really do that at a high level in a really efficient and practical way in the West because there's so many ideologies and utopian society.

Speaker 2:

You know dreams and I, I, I believe in that too. I really do. I believe humanity wins. I believe collectively, love wins. I believe we've already reached the escape velocity point where we have broken through a layer in our evolution and are moving into, you know, the age of aquarius. I believe that we really have already moved through that point in our evolution and now it's just the birthing of the new, that there's still the residual old. You know, the bits of the cocoon are still getting pulled off of the butterfly as its new wings are expanding open, but I believe the cocoon is already hatched. I believe humanity is already expressing collectively at this new level and the contrast is the last desperate attempt of those forces that have control, that are trying to hold on to control, are falling away and all we have to do is come together in community, out in nature, and play and dance and sing and tune our instruments and just live in harmony with the way. And naturally, buckminster fuller.

Speaker 2:

How do you I can't remember exactly the quote but how do you create a new or um, how do you create change or something? Gosh, I want to look up the quote now. But or how do you create change or something? Gosh? I want to look up the quote now. But essentially, when you build something more efficient next to a prior model, the prior model naturally falls away out of being obsolete. It no longer is as efficient as the new model and this new model of living, like you said, it's no cost, it's low cost. There's people building, you know, like these resources that are being made. People have the, the innovation now and we have the technology now to 3d print homes and do things that cost very little, that are scalable, and, you know, we can really build some epic, practical kumbaya hippie villages where people can come, you know, do this work and I think, as we do that, that maharishi effect uh will will naturally build more and more momentum where, collectively, we'll start to evolve through the practicing of these techniques.

Speaker 2:

As one bulb is lit over here, it lights two over here.

Speaker 2:

As these two are lit, 10 are lit over here and you can see that, if, if you're tuned in, you can see that if you're tuned in, you can see that happening all over the world.

Speaker 2:

And so to create these spaces where people can do so safely, and inspire them and empower them to go, you know, to do it with their community, with those around them, I feel like is the greatest gift that I could experience and see, is like my vision is me sitting in the rocking chair at 80 years old, 100 years old, and looking over the campus and seeing all the kids playing and growing food and outside in nature, and just like, look at my homies and be like we did it. We did it like that. Oh god, that that lights me up. That lights me up because I believe it to be true. I really do. I see that as a possibility if, if I can do it, anybody can, and I just have to continue to maintain, hold the vision and, you know, enlist people in the vision and inspire them to to be that change that we all wish to see in the world. And I, I do really believe that we're doing it.

Speaker 1:

Wow. Is anyone else now excited about the future instead of fearing it? I think a lot of people. I mean, how do I even like wow, thank you. Thank you for stewarding that vision and mission, because we are in the age of Aquarius and people like you came here, I believe, to believe this mission, to lead this mission.

Speaker 1:

And you know, sometimes I'm with my dad and he all he talks about is the fear of the future and how, the way that the world's going. You know he's afraid of me having children in this world, and yet there's visions like this that are being birthed. The new earth is being birthed and so having faith in what is coming is. It feels like fulfillment, it feels like the thing that we are all searching for externally, like I can't wait to be. I'm not going to be sat in a rocking chair, but I can't wait to be making you a cup of tea, looking over at you and thinking, oh my gosh, thank you for creating this for my grandchildren and my grandchildren's grandchildren. And like being in the Maui Henosis Hub one minute and then going to Egypt Hub another minute and just having this like beautiful life, where we get to be in community and our gifts get to be received. And this is like the new healthcare system, healthcare, the school system, the community system, like all in one hub. I'm like wow, wow, I'm, I'm just, I'm so inspired.

Speaker 1:

This podcast could literally be like four or five hours. Like your, your wisdom and your level of devotion to birthing. This is just so profound and I know my listeners are like, oh my God, okay, well, how do I even be a part of this man's community? Because you are building the foundations as you go right, and even you know I have a lot of women who listen to this show and I feel you know passing this on to your partners and your husbands, yeah, is only going to be a positive thing, because john is creating such a beautiful community on and offline that is just going to enhance and enrich so much of your life. So, john, can you please tell us about how people can connect with you, but also the retreat that you have coming up, because this is the environment that we're speaking to that can be the catalyst for, for so much change that we're speaking to, that can be the catalyst for so much change.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, absolutely. And I just want to point out too that this isn't a utopian dream. You guys can look up samadhisacredvalleycom. Right now, my brother, fernando Cardenas he has a retreat center in Sacred Valley. It's in the pocket of Sacred Valley, outside of Cusco, surrounded by mountains, very rural area. You can look down the hill and it's just all farmland. He and his family, he got this, got the same different paths, same forest vision of Hynosis, where he was inspired to build a retreat center for this very reason and it's funny enough that he's a soul brother of mine, he's devoted to the same lineage of yoga that I practice and I'm actually the godfather to his firstborn son, so he's family and he's a true brother and he's doing it. He went to his family and his mom and his community and said, hey, I got this vision to build this yoga retreat center in this sacred valley, and they said, okay, let's do it.

Speaker 2:

It and it is so beautiful and it's simple. It's very simple and practical. It's. It's on four acres at most. It's not a huge space, but it's really well designed to efficiently use the space. But there's amazing little bungalows, there's little suites, but the main, you know, facilities on the land. There's a farm on the land and they do farm to table cooking with amazing cooks that know how to actually chef up some really healthy jerf. They have yoga and they have spa and wellness and those are the three, I would say, like facility offerings, services that they have there, and the only thing that I would add for the hinosa center would be a gym, you know, performance facility of some kind where there can be a little bit more of the western yang based recreational activity. But their space is incredible. I go there every year for warrior retreats and it's a working model. He's and he's incredibly successful. They started it, I want to say, seven years ago, in 2016 or 2018 something 2018 I think and he's booked out every week of the year. Every single week they're booked out and they're continuing to expand. They built a cafe. They have an art studio above the cafe now and, yeah, they're just continuing to grow and it's an incredibly amazing space and it's it's simple but elegant and beautiful and beautiful and and he's a devotee and you can just see how that energy is already being expressed, and so it doesn't have to be some grand resort or, you know, you know utopian city.

Speaker 2:

I would love for something of a larger design to continue to manifest where we have, as you said just to bring it back to your point, kim of we add the youth education, we add the health care into the campus and so you can actually bring your whole family and come for a retreat or an extended stay and live in one of the villas on the property, on the outer ring of the property, and your kid can get, you know, schooling, credentials for schooling and do their work there. I would love to have a birthing center where, you know, tied to the health care center, there's a birthing center. I would love to have a birthing center where, you know, tied to the health care center, there's a birthing center, so a family can come and actually conceive and birth new life on the campus, on the facility, and have programs in place where, prior to conception, the man and the woman are both getting their epigenetic expression dialed so they can conceive at the highest level and then they can go through a nine month prenatal process where the woman is taken care of, she's going to yoga, she's going to her appointment, the man can go to the gym and then take a yoga class and then go, you know, work on his computer at the lounge and the library. Their other kids can go to school at the same time. And then there's three months postnatal, where the woman can, you know, postpartum, come back into her own body as a woman and, you know, ground back into and heal while you know the the facility is helping to encourage and educate how to take care of the new baby and make sure everything is good. You know, like this 15 month, you know, process of pre to post for, you know, bringing new life into the world. I can see that being, you know, a big part of the facility where, you know, there there is this, you know, long-term stay potential and those that are permanent staff can stay on the land at different areas. You know it can, really it could evolve into more of a community center where there's, you know it has, everything you need on campus and you could stay there. So I'd love to see that moving forward and until then, I'll just run retreats out here, as I have been for the last six, seven years at other venues.

Speaker 2:

And there's this really incredible venue here on Maui. It's called Haleakua, which means house of great spirit house of the spirit and it's a seven and a half acre property. That's very similar to what I want to build, but it just has the recreational aspect and the farm to table and the spa. They also don't have necessarily a performance facility space or a gym, but I run retreats out there. I've been running retreats out there since 2019, and it's tucked out in the jungle. It's magical. You can Google Haleakua or you can go to retreatkfitnessprocom.

Speaker 2:

Kim has a link as well. She'll send to you guys, but it will. It has photos of the venue and it's just ridiculous. It's like super jungle lush. You're out. It's on the east side, northeast side of Maui, so if anybody's heard of Road to Hana or Hana in Maui, it's like a famous tour and it's just like jungle where, like Jurassic Park was shot. There's some footage from that out there. So, like tropical rainforest soup plants, there's 150 foot waterfall on the property. It's open coastal view of the Pacific Ocean. Some of the houses are like on the cliff side so you can watch the sunrise over the ocean as you're outside in the backyard doing yoga, meditation, as we do, and so it's a really beautiful property where I've been hosting retreats in the meantime until I have my own retreat center and venue and space here on Maui.

Speaker 2:

And we practice living yoga, we practice these teachings, we move, we I incorporate functional movement so I teach actual mobility practices 3d maps, spinal mobility, mobility, hygiene. We do yoga asana, we do yoga pranayama, we do breath work, we do meditation, different meditation techniques. So my goal is to have people come here, invite them into my home, invite them into my heart, invite them into the beauty of maui, the magic of nature, and then teach them the formal practices that I've been using for the last 10-15 years and I've been teaching my clients all over the world. And then, after the retreat, you go home and you integrate those practices into your daily life. And that's something that I've been doing. Recently is the new addition to the retreats that I offer and that we have a 12-week online coaching program that is included with the retreat.

Speaker 2:

So not only do you get the seven days of the retreat, but then you go home and a lot of people first the ecstasy, then the laundry, they go home and they burn out, they spin out, they crash because they get super high when they come have this peak experience, and this is common for medicine retreats as well. Or yoga retreats you go, get super high and then you come home back into your 3D matrix lifestyle and it's not the supportive community, it's not the conducive environment and you don't have the structure and the guidance and the direction to be able to continue to implement these practices in a practical way that allows for sustainability and integration. And that aftercare piece I think is missed in a lot of retreats, and people then can go into the shame spiral of like gosh I was so enlightened for this week, like what's wrong with me, I must not be evolved enough and then shame just leads to more inhibition and inaction. And it can be a really nasty loop where you're going to get high to get healed at this retreat and then you crash and burn and like I need to go to another retreat to get high. And now we're back into that model of looking outside of oneself to find the answers, to find the healing that isn't integrated within, isn't embodied in your daily life, and that, to me, is the.

Speaker 2:

The essence of living yoga is actually taking this knowledge and integrating it and applying it and embodying it in a sustainable way that then allows you to live it. And so there's an online community where everyone that's in the retreat will have their own private access to my online community and my online coaching program. That includes all the things we're just going to practice, everything for a week, and then you have access to all of those materials, those resources, that coaching and that community for 12 weeks following the retreat and that community for 12 weeks following the retreat. And so that I have seen now to be the best way that I can offer both worlds, because I do believe in-person, immersive events in the proximity, the physical proximity of nature and of other beings that inspire you, that are in alignment with that lifestyle and of that frequency that you want to achieve or are embodying yourself is so important and it's not practical for everybody to just move to Maui tomorrow.

Speaker 2:

And so we have this beautiful opportunity, this gift of using technology, of using the internet to create instantaneous communication worldwide so we can stay connected. We just have to be mindful of how we use the technology and Instagram and social media, the social dilemma that's all part of feeding the beast, the ads, the hooks, the dopamine hit. All of that is still feeding into that same system that actually studies show create more isolation, more depression and more suicide. And so I've created a community on the Circle platform. It's very similar to School or Mighty Networks. There's a couple other private platforms out there where I have my own community and I post my own resources, so it's my videos of my video lessons, guided meditations, breath work, my workout routines.

Speaker 2:

We do live streams and webinars so that way you can tune in and connect and ask questions and get guidance and coaching support, and you can also instantaneously instant message everyone else in the group and do your posts and do your check-ins and share with everyone where you're at and share your knowledge and share your researches, because I believe everybody has a story and every story can teach and every story can heal, and the more we share, the more we empower each other, and that's really ultimately the game of community again is to inspire and empower each other to be that change individually that we wish to see collectively, and so I have a free online community that is accessible to everyone. It's wwwfreekfpcom. You can go there, create a free account, sign up and get access to an awakened and supportive community that is healthy and aligned with this way of life, and in that community, me and my team we provide resources and go live and connect with everyone in the community regularly. And then I offer online personal training and people can get the programs, get the structure, get the guidance to actually formally implement these teachings in their life. And then I offer the retreats.

Speaker 2:

We have two upcoming retreats that include the seven days on Maui all inclusive Everything is covered other than your flight.

Speaker 2:

And then you get the 12 weeks of coaching on the backside, and the first retreat is September 21st to the 27th here in 2025, coming up in a few months and then our next retreat is March 22nd to 28th, 2026. And again, both of those include the 12 months or, excuse me, 12 weeks of coaching, online coaching and community access on the backside of that retreat, and Kim will have more information about those links that you guys can get. But those are the ways that you can work with me, that you can get plugged into the community for free, right now, today, and you can come get the full, deep dive experience on Maui so you can actually practically apply and sustain and embody this way of living and take it back to your community and teach it to your family members and teach it to the people in your workspace and in your community. I think that's the most powerful thing is we come here, we charge up and we brighten up our lights so that way we can go out into the world and make it a brighter place collectively.

Speaker 1:

Wow, john Kempf, this has been the most in-depth, heart-centered episode I know.

Speaker 1:

Myself and so many listeners are going to be re-listening to this over and over again because it feels like a remembrance, you know, a remembrance of what is possible and coming back to basics, and that is something you do so incredibly well.

Speaker 1:

So, for anyone who's listening, please do go and check John out, join his free community, share his retreat with your community, your, your partner and, yeah, just being in John's presence, you feel so connected to self and to source Like I can't even put into words, like the, just the recoding that your presence has given me as a woman and as a friend. So, thank you, thank you for devoting your life to being of service, thank you for your soul, for choosing to have its north node in Aquarius and to help build these new structures and communities that are birthing this new earth, and we are absolutely living heaven on earth right now, and this is what you are creating. So I see you, my friend. Thank you so much for sharing your wisdom and just all of you on today's show and, yeah, if you need an assistant to chop some carrots, I'll be there yeah, I know you're gonna be there.

Speaker 2:

Go on, don't play thank you so much.

Speaker 1:

Just before we go, there's one question. I always ask all of my guests when you think of a soul digger, what emerges for you?

Speaker 2:

hmm, I think of you as this You're so willing to excavate and investigate thyself and there's this curiosity mixed with devotion that really speaks to who you are as a human and somebody that I appreciate so much.

Speaker 2:

Because there's this willingness to explore the self in this really tender and supportive way, even in reflections that you've given me, where you're just so open to sharing and being authentic and vulnerable and honest with who and where you are, and that is that in itself is really supportive and inspiring and empowering for someone like myself, is really supportive and inspiring and empowering for someone like myself because it's the way, it's the way that you do it, it's this it's non-judgmental, it's open, it's curious and it's coming from a place of like genuine care, care for yourself, love for yourself and yeah, that's.

Speaker 2:

That's really beautiful because it gives us all that opportunity, even in a reflection you gave me recently of just hey, remember when this was an idea that you were talking about in relation to the free community, actually, and now it's a free community and you've got it going, and that only was like six months ago, and now you've got 150 people in there and like good job, like celebrate yourself and you know just that, like reassurance and you know, uh support, uh shows like that's how you investigate yourself as well. You know we all can be critical, for sure, but just to also be loving and supportive of ourself and then that expresses through you naturally and is a gift that you give to others like myself.

Speaker 2:

In that reflection is just like a micro example of how you are. You're really willing to go all the way within yourself and explore and investigate the, the humanity and the subconscious mind, and the patterns and the stories. But you don't do so in a sharp and critical, cutting way. You do it with like that, that willingness and openness you know, and love for yourself to learn and grow. And there's this like compassion.

Speaker 2:

That is admirable, because I that's something that I could learn from from you is to just continue to be more compassionate for myself and more more openly curious, in a more playful way, rather than so discerning and judgmental of myself all the time. Like it's nice to have a high bar set, but it's also nice to remember that we're just here to play the game and have a good time. So I really am inspired by you in that way of your willingness to be honest and authentic and open and vulnerable with who and where you are, without necessarily bringing the judge in to scorn. You know that experience. You're just there to see it and love it for what it is yeah thank you for that thank you, my friend, thank you so much.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, this episode is, uh, yeah, a deep dive for sure. So, yeah, thank you so much for coming on and sharing your wisdom and hopefully I'll see you in mary soon you will.