Ep.170 - Should I freeze my eggs? Fertility empowerment with Amy Simpson

We explore egg freezing without fear, ask what you are truly freezing, and focus on preparing the body and mind as fertile soil. Amy shares a body-led approach to sovereignty, safety, and trust that helps women hold more—babies, creativity, and life.

• questioning the urge to freeze and where it comes from
• fear narratives about age, timelines and choice
• stimulation demands, egg quality and maturity
• embryo freezing context and viability
• preparing the body and nervous system before clinics
• soil before seed: beliefs, safety and nourishment
• spirit babies as an intuitive lens for readiness
• ambition and motherhood as both-and, not either-or
• fertile frequency beyond conception into work and wealth
• how to choose technology from trust, not panic
• where to connect with Amy and her fertile frequency work

Please do listen to this and pass on to any friends who are thinking about egg freezing before they do, just so that they can feel into the energy of what this conversation is before

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Setting The Stage On Egg Freezing

SPEAKER_01 0:00

If you're a woman who's ever thought about freezing her eggs, this episode is for you. Me and Amy dive deep into this conversation. Um it's something that as a woman in her forties, I hear a lot, you know, the way that people look at me when I talk about how I desire to be a mother and how I hear conversations of women in their 30s freezing their eggs. And there is no right or wrong. It is everyone's individual path and journey. But in this episode, we we dive deep into what you're actually freezing when you freeze from a place of fear, and it is an invitation to ask yourself different questions before taking yourself down that path. So this is all about expanding your awareness so that you can come back to your sovereignty and ultimately leading you back to your fertile frequency. Amy has been such an incredible woman, friend, inspiration, and mentor in my life for the past few years. But she is a body-led leadership mentor with 26 years in mind and body work. She's not a business coach offering a strategy, she's not a mindset coach asking you to think your way out or just believe in yourself. She's a therapist who has spent 26 years understanding the body and how it holds everything we're trying to hide. She can see where you're stuck in minutes of speaking to you. Your body literally shows her whether it's the subtle ways that you perform, you brace, you hold yourself together. The body does not lie. And so Amy really helps women to come back to their bodies to reconnect to their fertile frequency and experience just this depth and connection to our bodies and our and our inner knowing. So please do listen to this and pass on to any friends who are thinking about egg freezing before they do, just so that they can feel into the energy of what this conversation is before. So please enjoy a massive welcome back to Amy Simpson. This is the second time on the Solinga podcast. The first time we were speaking about spirit babies, yeah, we talk about quite an energy controversial topic egg freezing. Now, when I talk about egg freezing, it's a conversation I'm hearing every single day from women around me. For those who don't know, I'm like 42. And whenever I say to someone, you know, I still desire to be a mother, I know that I will be one day. Sometimes the way they look at me is like, uh-huh, how old are you? And I'm like, dude, do not give me that face. Please don't. And so there's this energy of like fear, and I need to rush. And a lot of women are now freezing their eggs. So where do you want to go from there?

SPEAKER_00 2:46

I mean, I like when you ask me to have this conversation, it is such a welcomed conversation because I feel I'm asked this probably on a weekly basis on a different, like with if I meet women at conferences or different spaces, then or people in my DMs are asking me around what's your take on it. So and I I for me it's really important around we begin that like to have the conversation about why are we choosing to freeze? Like, because I'm not saying that freezing is wrong, but I think it it all begins with who is the one that is choosing and what is the place that we're choosing to freeze our eggs from. Because exactly what you say is often when women have spoken to me about it, it comes from that place of somebody has made me scared of my body and scared of my age, and made me feel like my fertility is limited. So I am now choosing to try and um prevent that fear or that timeline from slipping away from me. So, what I often believe that we are then doing is we're in a process where we're beginning to freeze from fear. We're freezing fear, not potential.

SPEAKER_02 3:57

Oof.

Fear, Age Narratives And Choice

SPEAKER_00 3:59

We are free, and and I also think there is there's a massive part of the women who are speaking to me about freezing their eggs are in the process of building their businesses, in the process of really their careers are taking off. They are they are like really in devotion to the work that they are bringing through. And it is this narrative around that they have to choose. So one needs they cannot do both at the same time. So there needs to be one or the other. So there's two different narratives that tend to go on that women can't have at all, and that two that women like you need to, you have a biological clock that is ticking and it's ticking really loudly. And those are two narratives that I love having conversations with to really explore what does it mean to be fertile and what how does our how do we listen to what our body has actually given us? And how do we allow ourselves to not only create the business um that we desire, but how do we also allow ourselves to be open and ready to mother at the same time too? Because I don't believe one, I don't believe it's a choice.

SPEAKER_01 5:07

Okay, there's there's there's so much to unpack here. I mean, so when you when you speak about the the freezing, what is your theory behind actually why it's not maybe better to freeze? Like, I know we had a conversation around, oh, should I freeze my eggs just as like an insurance? And you were like, well, think of it like this, you know, could you take us back to that conversation that we had?

Freezing Fear Versus Freezing Potential

SPEAKER_00 5:31

Yeah, I mean, I I can't remember exactly which version of that conversation that we had, but it's it's it would be like I always think of it in the same way as that if you people are really familiar with like breath work and different things, okay. So we think about the breath reminds us that in every moment, every moment is new, every moment we come back to ourselves, every moment we have this experience of the aliveness and the life force that is moving through our body. And it would be like freezing a breath from the past and then unfreezing that breath in the future. Whereas I believe that most women come to me with a they they already have a level of consciousness and they are open to not this kind of like everything happens in this linear way, and they're open to really trusting and believing in their body, but when we then have this conversation about egg freezing, it comes back to really what it's saying is I do not trust my body to be fertile when I desire to create my family.

SPEAKER_01 6:32

And why do women not maybe why women maybe have those thoughts?

SPEAKER_00 6:37

I think women, well, the what I often find, Kim, is when when with the women that I work with, when we dig underneath it, actually it's not that they don't believe it, it's like the noise everywhere else that says your age matters, you're running out of time, and if you're not here by this time, then you need to panic. And that's that's where I think we are really building through the conversation about egg freezing. We are really building, particularly for women, like I don't, you know, you're saying you're a 42, but actually the women that speak to me about egg freezing are in their like early to mid-30s because they are being told like, but they're and they're coming from this place of like 40 is approaching. So I need to act now. I need to think about now, and often they are in like there's a lot they're they're build, they're whether they're building their career or building their business, they're often in a place where they are like head down, foot down, go. They're in that kind of scale growth, build place. So there's often a level of depletion that is already there because they're just in like let's go. And they're there's a sense of when you really dig underneath it, there's a sense of like, well, I actually don't really know what my body is doing. So when I listen to all of this information that's out here, it would make it I'll do that because that's like an insurance policy that I have, an insurance policy for the future. And I'm not saying don't do it, but I'm saying if you're gonna do it, then do it for around the place of prepare yourself in a way that when you freeze, you are freezing the most vibrant, radiant, alive version of you. You're not freezing from I don't trust my body to hold me in the future. Does that make sense?

Careers, Clocks And False Tradeoffs

SPEAKER_01 8:31

Yeah, it's such an interesting balance because when you also you explained to me, well, that this is actually what happens when you take the egg out, and actually the chances of the egg then defrosting and being able to be viable is very low. Like, could you speak to that? Because when you shared that perspective, I was like, Oh, actually that that that doesn't sound great.

SPEAKER_00 8:52

So I think what we need to do is really look at, and I would absolutely encourage everybody to look because there is data that is there around really understanding so what we're doing, we're asking we we go and we put the body into a stimulation phase. So we're asking the body to work harder, and this is why it's important when I said that often when women are doing that is when they feel like they are really in the drive place anyway. So we're then asking the body to go into while she's already driving in other areas to go into another drive phase. So we're asking her to do even more because when we go through the process of stimulation, that stimulation doesn't give the body any additional resource. It just asks the body to like you think you're like that accelerator is like three quarters of the way down, now it's floated. Foot to the floor, go. So you are, and when we ask the body to do that, when the body is fully resourced, when she is in overflow, the body can like of course she has more to be able to do that. But when we're when we already know, yeah, I'm kind of like I'm kind of all over the place just now. I'm working really hard, I'm probably not sleeping that well, probably not nourishing myself in the best possible way. I am spinning multiple plates. I I kind of like, don't ask me about how I am because I'm kind of just using that fine word on top of everything. And the truth is there's a lot going on, and we ask the body from that place to do even more. We are asking her to give it her best shot with not at her optimum. So when we think about egg freezing, when you actually look at the numbers of those eggs, and this is what I would encourage everybody to do is look at how many of those eggs then go on to be mature enough to be fertilized.

SPEAKER_01 10:55

Can you explain that more?

Trusting Your Body Over Timelines

SPEAKER_00 10:57

So with every with every egg, like if you even through the process of any sort of any kind of assisted conception, it all depends on the maturity of the egg, whether that egg, just because you have, and I think you know, often women have have this experience, particularly they've gone through IVF journeys, it there can be we're we're conditioned to think like high numbers means like bigger numbers is good. So then when women have big numbers of eggs retrieved, there's an assumption that there will be a lot of those that will then fertile be mature and fertilized. And the truth is that often sometimes the higher the number, the lower the fertilization rate. So it's not always, it's not always um the numbers don't always play out in the way that we are conditioned in all other places. You know, if you think about just to flip this away from fertility for a moment, but we are like if we think about money and money in the bank, the more money that we have, like we're conditioned to think more, more, more higher numbers, better. But when we think about the body, your body, our body does this beautiful natural process every month of our body uses the body's wisdom and the body's intelligence. That the as in our normal site, like as we approach, like in that follicular phase, as we're approaching ovulation, all of these little follicles are beginning to wake up, and our body does this most beautiful, intelligent process of selection, and the body determines this is the most viable egg that's here. So the body then puts all of its the body's resource into growing that one egg to be released at ovulation. When we're going through a stimulation process, the body's intelligence is kind of overridden, and anything that's waking up, the stimulation invites that to grow. But where is the body's natural process of that intelligence and wisdom would say this these eggs are maybe not as mature and not as ready to, and would just focus on the one when we go into that kind of stimulation process? If as I said, everything that is waking up is going to be is going to be encouraged to grow. So what can look like on the surface of we maybe have six eggs here? There's a there's kind of an assumption that those six are all the same. And they're probably not. So sometimes women are freezing, sometimes women are freezing a high yield of eggs, but we have no idea the maturity and the quality of that egg because we only know at the point when it goes to fertilization.

SPEAKER_01 13:44

So you've taken, you've you've you've made the body work harder to just create any eggs.

SPEAKER_00 13:49

You've taken any eggs that it has available, yeah. Overriding the body's intelligence and wisdom.

SPEAKER_01 13:54

You're taking those eggs, you're putting them in a freezer.

SPEAKER_00 13:58

Yeah. And you hope that when you thaw those eggs, that the eggs that you have frozen are mature enough that when you then like put them with sperm, that they will fertilize. And you have no idea until that moment. Until that moment, the quality of the eggs that are frozen. So there's and this is there's a couple like this is why I do know that some women have chosen to freeze, like so have frozen their eggs, have because they've not been in a partnership or and have chosen to then use like a sperm donut and freeze an embryo. So now they have an embryo in the freezer.

SPEAKER_01 14:41

And is that going to higher chance of converting?

SPEAKER_00 14:43

Because it's already you already have an embryo.

SPEAKER_01 14:47

So when we think about when there's a sperm as well, because you're taking the egg and the sperm create an equally then freezing at the end through your sperm.

What Stim Protocols Ask Of You

SPEAKER_00 14:56

So the yeah, and what what women will know, and it's it is such a emotionally and psychologically um challenging process it goes through when they're going through like an IVF process, because it's like step one is to retrieve the eggs. Step two is then seeing how many fertilize. And then step three is like, well, how many of those go not just from fertilization, but how many of them begin to multiply and actually go through the process of becoming an embryo because even the ones that fertilize, not all of them will go to an embryo that can be transferred and has the possibility of being a pregnancy. So when you think about egg freeze and where we are in that whole journey, we're right, right, right, right, right back at the beginning. But I don't often in the conversations that I've had with women, there's there's kind it's it's very the messaging around it, I think, is like freeze your fertility, which women instantly think, well, this is my this act. In some ways, it's like freezing the baby that they want. But you are freezing the egg that may or may not have the potential to be fertilized.

SPEAKER_01 16:10

And so you're putting your body under all of this stress, and I've had many friends who have gone through that, which you know, if it's something that someone's fully choosing, you know, it's part of their path and their journey, right? Um, and I remember I actually went to um go and see about having the stone when I was 35, and I left my partnership, and and they were like, Oh, you know, because of your age, we're gonna have to do two rounds and it was gonna cost like 20,000 pounds, and just the injections and all the things you're gonna put me through. My whole body just said no. My head took me there, the fear, and then my body said no. And it's funny because the older I've got, the more certainty I have that I will be. Your voice is fair to I will have my baby. Yeah, and ultimately it's in God's hands, and if that if that isn't meant for me, it'll happen another way. Um but it's a very, very interesting journey to like turn down the noise and turn up the the volume of your intuition in your body, like listening to your body, like there's no better person to listen to, right?

SPEAKER_00 17:11

Yeah, yeah. I mean, and and here's there is no better person to listen to in your body, like when we turn down the noise of the mind, because the mind is just gathering all of the data that is there is so much noise out there that is really just conditioning us to behave or react in certain ways, and to be there is still so much fear that is attached to women's fertility. There is not the same we could equally argue that men should be freezing sperm, but we're not. Because do you know why why again are we just really encouraging women to free like because it if we understand the whole biological process, then we are absolutely understand that we are seeing declines in male fertility as well. So why are we not encouraging men to freeze sperm in the same way that we're encouraging women?

SPEAKER_01 18:05

Why is that?

Egg Quantity, Quality And Maturity

SPEAKER_00 18:06

I I I have my own opinion around it, and I think that we are so conditioned to get women to respond and react and take responsibility. And there is there is an underlying message that I believe like I've never had a woman come and work with me at any point in her desire to step into motherhood, who is come, she often has come in with this with a timeline that doesn't that feels like it is urgent because of the the noise that is there, with a fear around that her body is in the process of letting her down, and that motherhood is slipping through her fingers. And often she is not connected to actually her body and really recognizing all of the signs that her body's given her in every moment and every day around like how fertile she is. So for a woman, like even before considering um egg freezing, I would say really work with your body and make sure that your cycle is optimized so that you are already seeing how fertile your body is. It's kind of like like I think sometimes we're just because and clinics clinics don't do the preparation phase. They do the process of harvesting eggs. It's the same for IVF. Clinics don't do the preparation for you to be prepared to go through the process of IVF. There's kind of an expectation that you come optimized for that. But I I don't think we're explicitly talking about that. So I think often at the point where women couples are stepping into either this process of egg freezing or the process of IVF, they're often depleted and they're exhausted and they have and they're in a place of fear and urgency around what is available to them.

SPEAKER_01 20:09

Yeah, this is really interesting. Yeah, I mean, I actually felt really cold to start preparing my body a few months ago for being fertile. So I did my water fast and that was like a reset for me. And I then realized I had lots of heavy metals and molds and yeast and things, and I just I got the download that I need to prepare for my baby. So I actually have a fertility coach who's helping me to, you know, just clean things up and flush things out. But for anyone who's listening, like what can people start to do to prepare their bodies to be fertile?

SPEAKER_00 20:43

Well, one of the things that I like, so one the thing that I would say is your body's fertile all of the time. Like we're fertile, like fert fertility just doesn't sit at the door of conception. Like we are fertile all of the time, the soil is always fertile. The invitation is for us to look at what we are planting in the soil. And one of the things I was speaking to a woman about last night was when when if it's if we are opening that door of conception, then the consideration is that you will often be shown everything that is already grown in the soil. So, for example, women will come to me with a place of, what if this means I am not capable? What if this means I'm not worthy? What if this means I don't trust my body? I don't trust myself. So this is we are getting an indication of what the soil is like. And my invitation to you is would you ever plant a baby into soil that said, I don't know if I'm enough, I don't know if I'm okay, I don't trust myself, I don't trust my body, I like if nothing, nothing good happens to me. Like, would you plant a baby into fear, doubt, and distrust or disconnection? No, you wouldn't.

SPEAKER_01 22:00

Oof, oof, that one hit me.

Embryo Freezing And Viability

SPEAKER_00 22:03

That that is the work that we do. Because as we were saying, you know, when when we first before we hit record, I hear everywhere that like this message, consistent message of be the egg, be the egg, and allow like the egg chooses its sperm. Yes, it does. But it is not just about the egg and sperm coming together. It's then about as a female, like our body is home and the soil that we are planting this the potential, this life, this potential of life force into so prepare the soil. Because often just being the egg does not mean that the soil is ready to hold.

SPEAKER_01 22:43

So when you speak to the soil, do you mean your health, what you're eating?

SPEAKER_00 22:47

The body, mind, body. I I mean mind, body, like the whole of you. Because one of the things that I think is, I mean, uh the women that have worked with me will will know that I see, like, the baby, the baby feels like it's the gift, the gift that actually does not feel like a gift, and the one that you're going to receive first is that you're going to be shown what the soil is like. Because what the soil is like is everything that you're thinking, everything that you're chasing, everything that you're not seeing, everything that you're pushing down, all the things that you're not feeling. You are being this baby that is out there, because I don't believe if you desire to have a baby, there is a baby that's waiting for you. The path that that baby comes to you on, who knows? Right? That's not in our gift to decide sometimes, but there is a path to that baby. And if that baby is in your awareness, there is a baby waiting for you. The invitation for us is to really look at how we prepare to welcome that baby. And sometimes that is that baby will begin to work with us, and in the process of them feel it feeling like they are not coming, we are going to begin to see, because it brings up all of our shit, all of the things that we don't want to feel, all of the things that we're like, but but what if this because what we begin to look at is well, what if I'm a what if I'm what if I'm not good enough to be a mother? What if I'm not worthy? What if I don't trust myself? What if, what if, what if, what if, what if? That's the work. Because that is the part that determines whether or not you can put the most beautiful, and this is what I see in IVF, women have the most beautiful, perfect embryos, but they have not done the work around like the soil that we're planting this back into. Because if the soil that we're planting this back into says it's not safe, I don't know if I can do this, I don't trust it, then what are we expecting to grow in that?

SPEAKER_01 24:51

So when you were saying the baby starts to work with us, do you believe that the obviously we we know this, but like the spirit of the baby, if we feel it, it's because the baby's already chosen us, and so the baby's working with us. Um I believe that the my spirit baby also is guiding me to do the fertility cleanup and the health coach and things like that. And um, so the baby is really helping us to prepare for its arrival.

Preparing The Body Before Clinics

SPEAKER_00 25:16

Yeah. Your baby is gonna show you the your baby before they arrive, because I truly believe like we think we are waiting for a baby. It is the other way around. Our baby is waiting for us to do the work. Oh that I mean, like I hundreds and hundreds of babies in, like, it's consistently the same thing that I see with all women that I work with. You are you are not waiting for a baby, your baby is waiting for you. But often what happens is because we think we're waiting, so we go out and chase all of the things that we think bring are going to bring get us our baby, when all of the time our baby is waiting for us to do the inner work, for us to be the place where that baby lands, where that baby is welcomed, received, our body is fully open, like where we are already moving as the mother of that baby that is coming.

SPEAKER_01 26:16

Okay, so what would that look like? Let's just obviously, you know, use me as an example because it's it's simple. Anything that you see within me that you're like, uh-huh.

Soil Before Seed: Inner Work

SPEAKER_00 26:26

Well, I I mean, I like I have a mowing quick because I I like so it's here's the the thing that people immediately go to is they go to like I'm gonna clean my body, and I'm not saying that that's wrong, but that's that's what we've got used to doing. I'll clean my body. But I would really encourage you to look at like what is when you think about motherhood and receiving your baby, and like your your really your relationship between you and you, how much you trust yourself right now. Any little old parts of I'm scared of this or I'm worried about this, or what if that's not good enough. Because often what women are doing when they're cleaning for fertility is it's driven from a place of like, what if I am not enough? And I'm not saying that that's what you're doing, but like I am but it's like looking at what is driving that. It's kind of it's particular particularly for women who are ambitious and women who like who like who are very capable and like like there is it is so sneaky how that perfectionist and that control can slip in and it can slip in through ways that we are we are like, oh, this is wellness, this is good for me, but it's noticing like but where am I creating that from? What is the frequency behind how I'm creating that from? If you were moving from a place of knowing, like I am whole complete and enough, and I'm always fertile, and I'm now gonna just be like, I'm now gonna deeply nourish myself, not just my body, but my mind, my beliefs about myself, like to really feel this aliveness within me, to really come home and be like, I like I am like the baby is not the prize, I am. I am the prize, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 28:32

Yeah, that that definitely resonates. And when I when you were sharing that I was really feeling into I think the health GNE I'm on almost feels like it's exciting because I feel like I'm actually connecting more to the to the motherhood. So I'm I'm not in the waiting of like, oh, like where is he and where is the baby? I'm like, I'm I'm prepared, I'm preparing, I'm uh you know, yeah, nourishing my body so that when the baby comes, it's like the most welcoming space for him to come. Uh, but also noticing, you know, is that creating some fear or some distance between you know being fertile now? So yeah, that was an interesting discovery. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 29:13

It's the one thing that I always say is like, so if your baby, if the analogy I always use is like your butt, your body is going to be home to this baby. Okay. So if you're if your baby is actually waiting for you, then your baby is going to appear at the door for you. But so often what women are doing is they have left their home and they are outside of their home looking for all of the things that they need in order to welcome a baby. When actually your baby just needs you to be home. So that when your baby arrives at the door, you open the door and you are already there. Because so often sorry. I was gonna say so often what I see is if that baby was standing at your door, women are doing all of the right things, but it is taking them outside of themselves. Yeah, because they are outsourcing in lots of different places rather than being in the truth of like my body is always fertile. I'm creating every single day. The invitation is for me to be like at home in the aliveness and the fertile, like the fertile frequency that is my body.

SPEAKER_01 30:26

And does this also refer to home as in where you live?

SPEAKER_00 30:30

Or is it more I think it's your body because wherever we live, we are yeah, do you know? Often we think we can go different places and we experience a different version of ourselves? No, like wherever we go, there you are. Like, so the invitation is like be here, notice what if what if everything that all of the fears that are like coming to the surface, or all of the thoughts, or all of the things that you think, why on earth when I'm thinking about motherhood, is this thing randomly coming up now? Like, what if that was your baby orchestrating all of that to be like, I've already chosen you, but here are the like here's the invitation for you to choose yourself and all of these other places.

SPEAKER_01 31:25

That just makes my heart so warm and fuzzy. Your baby's already chosen you.

Spirit Babies And Choosing Ourselves

SPEAKER_00 31:30

Your baby has already chosen you, and I like I I see this, and this is so if you go into egg, like if we take it full circle back to the beginning, if you if you consider, if you consider egg freezing and egg freezing feels right for you, step into that process of knowing my baby has already chosen me. My body is fertile and ready to receive and open to receive. Like I trust that, like I trust the the the timeline that I am on for my own journey around motherhood. I refuse to be scared of my body. Because why would my body like this is the thing is like our when we think about our body has been our greatest love and protector from the minute that we came, like from the moment we were conceived and neutral? And our body will be with us to the very, very end. Our body sees us through everything and she never leaves us. So, why why would we doubt that she would work against us? What if we actually knew that she is she has a wisdom within her that sometimes, like as a mother, we will, it's like tough love. And she's gonna show us things that feel uncomfortable, and she's gonna invite us, and she's gonna get our attention through sensations and physical symptoms because that's how she that's how she communicates. And the mind wants to be like, Well, this is wrong, and I need to fix it. And what if we actually just viewed it as this is information? This is just my body asking, communicating something and do I choose to ignore her or force her or like push her into something else? Or do I work with my body knowing that actually deep down my body only wants exactly what I want to?

SPEAKER_01 33:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 33:32

That's all she wants.

SPEAKER_01 33:35

Yeah, and I mean, just touching on that, there's been some studies that have come out quite recently. I don't know if you can speak to this, where we thought that women's eggs decline in quality as they age, but actually there's a there's a mechanism around the egg that maintains the quality of the egg throughout life.

Coming Home To Your Body

SPEAKER_00 33:53

So yeah, I mean, and this is like I think there's so with how do I want to answer this? Um so I think some of the way when when I when I when I put on my kind of clinician hat and when I think about like my clinical knowledge and experience and working out, like we are from a clinical point of view, the whole medical model is like we we we only believe what we can see, what we have the evidence to prove. Okay. And actually what I think we also know though is that there is an intelligence in the body that we cannot even begin to understand. So do I believe that our body's like, yeah, but I'm I'm kind of done with that? No, I don't. I don't personally believe that at any point. I have I believe that when we create the environment for our body to thrive, and when our body is not just surviving, because when we put when we're only asking our body to be in survival mode, she's like, okay, all I need to do is keep you alive today. And the truth is when she's only keeping us alive, she's not thinking, let's procreate, let's have a baby, let's do all of this. She's thinking, uh right now I don't care about a baby, I'm only caring about you. Because if you ask your body to choose between you and a baby, your body chooses you every single time, again and again and again and again and again. So when we're in when but if we work with our body and we're in a we come out of survival and come into thriving and really be in like inner like most fertile frequency, regardless of the season of womanhood that we're in. Like be it, be in our fertile frequency, which is really the aliveness of your body. The body has so many healing properties, the body has an intelligence, the body knows how to send different cells to different parts of the body to support the healing process, to support to protect the body. So, do I believe that our body's just like, oh, wait a minute, sorry, time's up, I'm now this it? No, I don't. I believe that sometimes what we what we create is an environment for our body that is difficult for her to be in our fullest expression. And that environment is created by what we think, what we feel, how we nourish our body, what we do, what we like, it's not just what we're putting into our body, it's everything that we are, it's how we inhabit the who we are, where we are, what we think, what we believe, all of it. The frequency from which we are moving from.

SPEAKER_01 36:42

Yeah. Yeah, and I know this can be a really sensitive topic for a lot of women. Um, and you know, this is who you work with. You you work with women who are not fertile, and then you know, all of a sudden in your containers, women shift. And I mean, you you said to me the other day that you had uh, I mean, tell me, you had 10 women come into your fertile container that wanted to have babies in it by the end of it, or 10 when pregnant.

SPEAKER_00 37:06

So the last time I'm running the fertile frequency again next week. Um the last three years ago that I ran it live, 10 women joined live. All of those 10 women now have their babies. Women come to me after multiple, multiple complexities along their fertility journey. Because what I believe is like women come to me with a belief that they are infertile. I don't believe that for a second. I believe that she's fertile from them, like because your fertility is not only it's we have we have condensed what it means to be fertile to conception. So I don't believe a woman is infertile. I don't believe it's possible. I believe sometimes what happens is her fertile frequency is like pushed down and hidden all behind all of the stuff that we carry from life and the process of what I do. This is why I created Unbound, is that we begin to understand, okay. So if because we are the only ones that create all of that for ourselves, often to protect ourselves. So if we created it, then we can also unravel it. And when we unravel, we begin to see that this fertile frequency is has always been there, it's not going anywhere. That's the invitation. The ground is always fertile, she is planting in the ground at like every minute of every day, and sometimes what she doesn't consciously realize is when what she actually desires begins to grow, there is a part of her that is not does not have the capacity to hold it yet. So she is the one that uproots it.

SPEAKER_01 38:52

When you say hold it, that can often feel quite heavy. So what do what do you mean by hold it?

Rethinking Age And Fertility Science

SPEAKER_00 38:58

I mean be the container for this for life force to move through her. Not that she is so to hold it would be that she is not fighting against it, she is in relationship with it. She's not, she doesn't feel she's not trying to control it. She is moving, she understands that it is it was never separate, and it's it has an intelligence um that she is moving through. Like there is there's something fascinating, I see it all the time. I don't know, I'm just gonna mention this because it feels important, but when I think about I I often in the work that I do, I share a lot around the conception channel, I share a lot around the sacred threshold, and often I can tell, like with a woman's how safe it feels for her body to hold actually what she desires. And it comes up often it activates. I can hear it in her voice, I can hear it in what she's not saying, I can hear it in the things that don't feel safe for her to claim. That is showing me what she the level of safety that she feels in her body to actually hold what it is she desires.

SPEAKER_01 40:19

That makes sense. So it's almost like the the nervous system adapting to feel safe with more to be visible, with more to have everything that she desires.

SPEAKER_00 40:33

Yeah. And that's why that's why, you know, what I see is that women often come and work with me initially because they desire a baby, they stay because they realize this was this was never actually about a baby, and this is about how I allow wealth to come to me in the way that I desire. This is allow how I allow myself to be visible in the way that I desire. This is uh how I allow myself to have the intimacy that I desire. This is the same thing that was showing up around a baby is showing up in all of the spaces because we are the same, it is the same version of us that is showing up in all of those spaces, and babies, money, visibility, intimacy are just like the most beautiful mirrors that we are offered, not to see it as this is a problem that I need to fix, but to see here is it here I am being shown something that I get to really reclaim for myself.

From Survival To Thriving Physiology

SPEAKER_01 41:31

Oh, yeah, just that reclamation. I think for so long, women's true power has been suppressed on purpose, intentionally. You know, the the the masculine has um yeah, not really valued the feminine, and so that's why I personally have always gone into hustle and trying to to get and to work harder, and you know, it's it's it's only been the past few years where I've really remembered my my true feminine essence, and and also, you know, like the egg freezing thing I feel is again, it's that it's it's buying into the fear, but it's also a very big business. Well, I mean that women spend on egg freezing, and I and I I really also just want to carry out that is you know, there are there's so many women in my life who have also frozen their eggs, they've had IBF, and it's totally worked for them, and that they won't have a partner with a baby, and so there's no right or wrong, but just an awareness of that.

SPEAKER_00 42:28

That's it, like there isn't the process, and exactly, do you know I've worked with hundreds of women who have created their families through like assisted conception, through the medical process, and I'm so grateful that it exists. But I think the bigger conversation that I desire, I am not anti, I'm not anti-eg fees and I'm not anti-IVF, I'm not anti-any of that, but I am what I'm passionate about is around who is the woman that steps into all of these processes. Because I believe that's the part that matters. Who are you when you step in?

SPEAKER_01 43:05

Beautiful.

SPEAKER_00 43:06

Because if you step in from a place of fear, and yeah, like the fertility industry is one of the biggest uh and fertility testing, fertility testing and egg freezing is one of the biggest growing industries right now. Because when you bring it back to what you were speaking to around that kind of masculine and feminine, and women feeling like they really need to hustle, this the narrative still exists around fertility for women to be scared of her body, to hustle for what she wants, and not to be in the frequency of like that she is fertile. So women often I mean, I I would say if I was and like if I'm looking at it in a very and like this this may or may not land well or not with, but do you know what if you think about egg freeze and what you are doing from a fertility point of view for that clinic is you are entering their funnel. You're now in the process because you they all you've already been you've already shown that a part of you does not trust your body Wow So I want you to I I want you to go into that process eyes wide open, being in the deep, deepest trust, knowing that I am fertile and actually the eggs that I am freezing are like I am freezing the most alive, the like pure potential, pure possibility, pure aliveness. That's what I'm freezing. If I choose to freeze.

SPEAKER_01 44:52

Are you connected to your body? Do you trust your body? Is this coming from that place of oh, this is actually empowering for me?

Safety, Nervous System And Holding More

SPEAKER_00 45:00

Yeah. Eyes wide open, heart wide open, like full deep trust and full like deep relationship and connection to who you are. That's that's that's where we create from. That soil, like that soil, that soil is rich and ready and abundant, and everything and anything can grow in that space.

SPEAKER_01 45:27

Oh, this has been such a heartwarming conversation, and I yeah, my vision is that it impacts women who are maybe coming from a place of fear and yeah, just a deeper invitation to get into Amy's world.

SPEAKER_00 45:44

Come and experience the fertile frequency. Come and just come and just remind yourself of what it actually when you because this frequency is already within you. This is not something I'm gonna give you. This is not something that you have to get anywhere else. It is already alive and awake within you. It is just turning up the volume on it so that you can feel it and you live it, lead from it, create from it, be it. Beautiful.

SPEAKER_01 46:07

Yeah, because whether we're creating a baby or a business, it's uh it's the same thing. Well, I just want to say thank you. Thank you for being such a huge part of my life. I feel the past two or three years we've been connected in life and business, and we've journeyed together, and you've just been such a joy to to be around, and um also very, very tapped in. Um, Amy is uh say you're a psychic, but you know, you're very intuitive and you get messages coming through. And um Amy also felt my my spirit baby as well, and she um really helped me to connect deeper with with him.

SPEAKER_00 46:40

So that's uh I mean what I'm smiling at is because the image the image that I that I sent because I never sent it to you, but it's it's on my it's actually on my shelf.

SPEAKER_01 46:54

He wants to be seen on the podcast. He does on that note, does a spirit baby also help you help to find the father?

SPEAKER_00 47:12

Everything is aligned and it's already coming.

SPEAKER_02 47:17

There yes, there it is.

SPEAKER_00 47:21

And do you know what like to what I would encourage you to do is like this yeah, this this is only for you, this one's yours, so you connect to what you feel from this because there is a frequency coded within this within this imagery, this visual representation that has something that is for you all body chills, Auntie Amy, Auntie Amy, yes please. I mean I'm unofficial, I I uh unofficial auntie, I I've kind of lost count. I think we're maybe at 300 and 300 and I think three three twenty-three, three twenty four, but there's another um there's another three due anytime. So yeah, the unofficial anti-status just keeps keeps rising and I'm here for it.

SPEAKER_01 48:19

I just had a vision then of you hosting a retreat in Portugal with all the women and the babies that you felt consumed.

Beyond Babies: Wealth And Visibility

SPEAKER_00 48:24

I mean I well, I would love that fertile festival. A fertile festival. Oh yeah, let's do it. Let's do it, let's do it. I mean, I would love to because I mean I receive messages from women that I've never met who've like this fertile frequency that I'm running when I like I had it as an evergreen product, and people would purchase it and then message me to be like, we've never met, but I listen to you on repeat every day, and and this is my baby, and I please add him to him or her to part of your gang. And I'm like, of course I will, of course I will, of course I will. A fertile free a fertile festival. Yeah, I I'm totally here for it. Like, yes, okay, let's chat, let's chat about that.

SPEAKER_01 49:10

Amy Simpson, it's always a joy. Thank you so much. Please tell the listeners where they can come and find you and be a part of your soil.

SPEAKER_00 49:17

Oh, yeah, come and come come nourish the soil over at Amy Simpson underscore unbound on Instagram. That's probably the easiest place. I also have a private telegram transmission, the womb line, um, which I can share the details with you if you want to. Um, but it's on, it's connected to my Instagram. Um, yeah, that's probably the best place to come find me.

SPEAKER_01 49:41

Fantastic. We'll make sure we link all the things in the show notes. And thank you so much. Can't wait until they I see you again. Hopefully with a big bump.

SPEAKER_00 49:50

Oh, I mean, like come like that's that'll be my that's what I'm holding for the for the fertile festival that you will be like in the most like radiant fertile like energy, just like, yep, bump and all.

SPEAKER_01 50:02

With the sparkles, I can do a little speech. Oh, you can do something new.

SPEAKER_02 50:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 50:10

Oh my gosh, amazing. Well, thank you so much. You know, this would have given so many women um just what what what they needed in this time. So thank you so much. I appreciate you, and I'll see you soon.

SPEAKER_00 50:19

Thank you.