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What Did I Miss? (August 2025 Bonus Episode)

The August 2025 edition of our monthly "What Did I Miss?" series welcomes special guests Kory from "The World Is My Burrito" podcast and Badr from "The Short Box Podcast" for a lively discussion of recent pop culture news and developments.

• Exploration of IDW's new Godzilla comics in the Kaisei era, featuring three parallel storylines across different titles with rich storytelling and impressive artwork
• Discussion of international animation's growing impact, focusing on K-Pop Demon Hunters becoming Netflix's most-streamed film and Ne Zha 2's theatrical release through A24
• Analysis of James Gunn's DCU reboot plans, including potential returning characters like Margot Robbie's Harley Quinn and audience reactions to the Superman film
• Breakdown of digital comics evolution with Global Comics partnering with Kodansha to bring manga titles to Western audiences and Webtoon collaborating with Disney for vertical-scroll Marvel content
• Conversation about the resurgence of physical media interest amid streaming fatigue, with upcoming film rereleases and new adaptations of beloved properties
• Spirited Kahoot game testing everyone's pop culture knowledge across film, comics, music, and local Jacksonville trivia

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Speaker 1:

Welcome to your go-to source for entertainment. Wait for it Gaming, wait for it Anime PLUS ULTRA. Mr Eric Almighty and Phil the Filipino yeah, they've got you covered.

Speaker 2:

And all you gotta do is wait for it. This is the Wait For it Podcast. Yo Wait For it Podcast Nation. Welcome to the August edition of what Did I Miss? I'm your co-host, Phil Barrera, aka Phil the Filipino, and.

Speaker 3:

I'm your co-host, Phil Barrera, aka Phil the Filipino, and I'm your co-host.

Speaker 1:

Mr AI.

Speaker 4:

You asked, you asked, you wanted to switch it up. Hold on, I'm lightheaded. I'm lightheaded. We did it, and you should expect nothing less than absolute chaos for this episode of the Wait For it podcast. What did I miss? And we brought half of the Weight Watchers along for the ride.

Speaker 2:

That's true. Yeah, they'll be watching themselves, maybe later tonight if they choose to, if they choose to One of the perks of being a Weight Watcher a part of our Patreon. So we'll tell you about that a little bit later. But, yeah, welcome to the August edition of what Did I Miss. It is our monthly bonus episode where we kick back with some friends, talk about some pop culture stories that you may have missed out on in the previous month and play a game. So very excited to hang out with you guys this month and bring in two guests. Of course, last month, eric and I went no guests, so it was a pretty short episode, but this one, we are very excited to have the two gentlemen that we have joining us here today. First, let's bring in who is returning, who's been on a couple times this year and has also released quite a few episodes lately, and it's been great to listen to. The World is my Burrito. So, corey, how are you doing tonight? And thanks for hanging out.

Speaker 1:

I am doing wonderful. Thanks for the re-invite, the invite, the sequel for July. Yeah, no, it's great to be back. I've I finally gotten the groove recently? There's enough stuff to talk about and people to talk to a lot of the episodes that I wanted to do earlier this year spin-off.

Speaker 2:

Uh, the alien show, yeah, exactly yeah, the the ice age, the fifth, uh, fifth insert in the ice age franchise, I think think, eric, before you came out, I told him it would have been really hilarious if he came in and he was just on a bike, but on the Riverside app, but like while biking.

Speaker 4:

I wouldn't expect anything less, if I'm being completely honest with you.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so one time in the future, corey, you will have to join us via again some trail in the middle of Florida.

Speaker 1:

Oh, I'll do it.

Speaker 2:

But another guest returning. He was here on the Wait for it podcast. For what did I miss last year? The leader of said short box nation bought, and one half of the amazing team at the GPU bought her. Thank you so much for joining us. It's good to see you. Like you said, we tried to make this happen last month, but we were just too damn busy, so it's I'm happy that you're here tonight.

Speaker 3:

Hey yo check it out, motherfucker, I'm Tupac, thank you. Thank you, phil, for that amazing intro. It's a pleasure to not only be on the Wait For Podcast again, but to also be counted among the fellow Weight Watchers, which I learned today is what you call your patrons, which I think is the best name for a Patreon community ever.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and also a new perk, BJ Glizzy's coming pretty soon.

Speaker 3:

If you mail me a BJ Glizzy from BJ, you can keep it. That's a perk that I think I'll skip on. No, it's part of the. Just take my money.

Speaker 2:

It's part of the merch package now. Sorry, I don't know what to tell you. It is yours, but, yeah, very excited to be hanging out with everybody here this evening. If this is the first time you're listening to this particular podcast, well, you picked a hell of an episode to join, because this is pretty carefree and just meant to be a whole lot of fun, which is what we are going to do here tonight. But before we get into it, botter, I do want to give you the opportunity because, I mean, eric and I have talked about it here in the last few weeks. In terms of podcast camp, it was an incredible success. The feedback that we have gotten from people that attended was fantastic. So, please, for anybody you know, I just want to hear from you, like, what's it been like, just kind of basking in the, you know, the afterglow of podcast camp, putting it all together and, like, you know, how are you feeling now and what have you heard as far as feedback?

Speaker 3:

I feel like I am just now relaxing after that event. I mean the build up to the event you're planning for, the. I mean it was the first of its kind. You know, the Jax podcast camp. It was a brand new event that we threw and it will for sure be a returning event. Based on the feedback we got, the outpouring support, the amount of people that showed up. I mean it was very successful. So happy that all of the hard work that went on behind the scenes paid off the day of and Phil, eric, I got to give you guys huge props on helping out with the event. You guys host a panel, or were you a part of a panel? Part of a panel, right?

Speaker 2:

yes, part of one, part of a panel and you guys hosted the q a, that's right, which I will absolutely admit.

Speaker 3:

Uh was a big reason why I decided to finally pull the trigger and become a weight watcher, because I was, because I was like you know what I'm always talking about supporting podcasters. And what other podcasts should I support than you two that are always working so goddamn hard? I mean, look, you guys know as well as I have. There's been a lot of podcasters that have come out to our events that you know aren't around the next day or aren't still podcasting now, and I think you guys are a testament to I'm bright the year.

Speaker 2:

You mean Corey?

Speaker 4:

You mean like our friend Corey, who opted out of the podcast camp?

Speaker 3:

No, no, no, corey would have absolutely been there had he still been in chat. Hell, I mean, corey's actually driven from Tampa to, I think, one of our last events. So Corey is an exception. He's a great guy. Phil and Eric, you guys look, I am so impressed by how long you guys have, you know, kept the wait for a podcast going and growing. I like to me and blife, like to say you guys are like our number one example of like, hey, this is what you should do as podcasters, you know so yeah, yeah, we're coming for that folio award, that's right no look, that's right little, do you know we're just lurking in the shadows.

Speaker 4:

Have it, man.

Speaker 3:

I don't go nearly as hard as campaigning for the best of awards.

Speaker 2:

We forget about it every year and then it's like vote for your. And then by that time we're like, well, it's too late to stuff the ballot box.

Speaker 1:

They're like the last day is a week from now, and you're like shit.

Speaker 2:

We always forget about it. It's a week from now.

Speaker 3:

And you're like shit, we always forget about it. I think I just got a little disillusioned. I was like, oh wait, I think Larry's Giant sub won one year. And I was like, wait a minute, they're not even vetting this shit, it's just you know. Anyways, anyways, you guys are great in my eyes.

Speaker 2:

So no award needed. Well, you did give us awards, actually.

Speaker 3:

Actually, I'm going to need those awards back because we need to recycle them For the 2025 volunteer. Hey look we don't make no money off of Jack's podcast. Wait for it.

Speaker 4:

Podcast on it. You can't give it. Is this going to be like a fantasy football?

Speaker 2:

league where we hold a trophy for a year and you just recycle that around. What if I started picking at it Like this is a sticker.

Speaker 1:

Is this going to be?

Speaker 4:

like the.

Speaker 2:

Stanley Cup, where that you just add.

Speaker 3:

You just put 20, 25.

Speaker 2:

Right.

Speaker 3:

There is a reason why all of the events for Jack's podcast United is free, all right, we struggle in here. We got to make ends meet. Oh, that dog even understands. He's like you're right.

Speaker 1:

Brenda's dog even understands. Even he feels he's like.

Speaker 2:

You're right, butter's great brenda's home and mabel is letting me know. But uh, yeah, but again, podcast camp was great and I can't wait for uh for next year, come back around.

Speaker 3:

So if you missed it this year, uh, you know, like phil, you want I'm sorry, phil you won't even have to wait for another um event, because, in true butter fashion, it's already off to the next um where we're doing the Jack's Podathon in December.

Speaker 3:

It'll be the third year that we're throwing this event. We're hoping to make it bigger and better. You guys know us. We're always looking to improve our events. So if you're listening right now and you're an aspiring or even a veteran podcaster, that's in the Northeast Florida area, or if you don't mind driving to northeast florida, jacksville specifically uh, check out jack's podcasters, unitedcom. That's where we, you know, uh post our events. We're doing another event on december. I want to say it's december 10th, it's like the second wednesday in december, but jack's podathon it's coming this year.

Speaker 2:

Be on the lookout there you go, cory, uh, so yeah, yeah, well to to continue talking up the jpu thing, yeah

Speaker 1:

didn't, uh, didn't y'all have people from orlando? Oh my god, yeah, yeah, uh all right.

Speaker 3:

So jack's podcast cam. I want to say we had a. I wish I knew their name on the spot right now, but we had a uh podcast duo, a wife and a husband and wife duo drive from Atlanta just for Jack's podcast game and they drove back that same night.

Speaker 2:

Which uh you know that's a crazy drive back to them. Yeah.

Speaker 3:

Uh, we've had folks from oh, we've got a Mr Nuke, Mr Whiskey, uh, from, uh, Savannah. He always drives down from Savannah to attend the event, to talk podcasting, which I think speaks to the, you know, podcasters. Man, we love hanging out and talking with our people.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, speaks to the value of that networking and that community. So yeah, as it continues to grow. So it's been fantastic. But, eric, I think it is time for us to for it to return. If I recall correctly, obviously we didn't do it last month it was just the two of us At one point we did dice. Do it last month, it was just the two of us At one point we did Dice because it was completely. This episode was completely hacked by our guests. Oh yes.

Speaker 3:

So we have to bring in the return of your favorite part of the episode, one of the greatest resources to us Brokey podcast. Gotta love it, gotta love it.

Speaker 2:

I use this at what's the name? Electric Dough the other day to pick a pizza. So I use this at what's the name Electric Dough the other day to pick a pizza. So.

Speaker 4:

I use this website all the time.

Speaker 3:

Okay, oh my God, you are like an evangelist for this website. Yeah, absolutely no for sure.

Speaker 4:

Now, wheels are our thing, and especially on this episode. So if you don't know the drill, I'm going to break it down right now. Botter Corey, I'm going to count down Three, two, one, and then all of us are going to try it the same, say the same thing at the same time spin that wheel. So in that cadence three, two, one, spin that wheel. The last time we did do it it did go very well. So I can only imagine I don't know, I've looked at Aaron.

Speaker 4:

I don't think so. Aaron was the oh, maybe not. No, has it ever gone? Well, that's the real question. One time, let's go for two. We're going to count down Three, two, one, spin, spin, spin. That was.

Speaker 1:

There's always got to be one Win it's a win.

Speaker 2:

There's always got to be one Win. It's a win, there's always got to be one, all right, we got Corey up first.

Speaker 1:

Straight off the bat. Really exciting.

Speaker 2:

What did we miss in August?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and July because it's a two-parter. Oh shit. They're connected, though, so I know that everyone here is an avid listener of the short box podcast.

Speaker 4:

Hey.

Speaker 1:

I like that show. Everyone who's listening is an avid listener. But in the beginning of June bought a release, an episode interviewing IDW comic editor Jake Williams to talk about the Godzilla upcoming Godzilla series of the Kaisei era, which is an officially licensed canon. I don't know what the word canon means to Toho, but sure we'll just say that it's canonical. But at the very end of June and July and then beginning of August we got issue one of Godzilla and issue 1 of Godzilla and Issue 1 of Godzilla Escape the Dead Zone. So first entries into this new era.

Speaker 1:

I don't know how many comics we're getting total. Actually I have the IDW comic list for the rest of the year and it looks like there's going to be I think six of Godzilla, maybe five of Dead Zone and I don't know how many of Starship, but at least two um. So it's really cool, it's exciting. They're chunky, they're 32 pages. I think the average comic is 24 or maybe fewer um. So they're, they're thick, uh, they're, I think, five bucks each, which is pretty good for a 32 page comic. I want to say there's no ads up until the very end, just kind of letting you know what's to come. So it's a great start to a new era. It's big Godzilla news. It is fun to have something If you are in a comic shop right now. We are living in an extremely strange time Because today I picked up VR Troopers and speed racer from the comic shop.

Speaker 3:

Dude it's like it's like no property, no show. No, uh, you know a franchise from your childhood and I'm specifically talking to like folks our age, right, like nineties babies. None of that shit is safe from the comics, uh, uh, it more than likely. I mean to cory's point. There is a, a, a swat cats comic series that was announced. There is a uh, what was that? Cowboys of moo mesa. You guys remember that show.

Speaker 1:

I might have oh yeah, no, getting a comic series, yeah it's insane the time we're living in yeah, you can go by gotcha man right now they're deep into that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's wild, but the Godzilla stuff's really cool. The artists are cool. I got to meet one of the cover artists at Tampa Bay Comic Con. He was directly across from Ivan, so it was like my third or fourth time talking to Ivan. I turn around and just happen to see Godzilla covers behind me. It's like, oh shit, what's this guy doing? Um, yeah, so he was one of the several cover artists, but no, it is.

Speaker 1:

I think that's one of the coolest things. It's something that's tangible, that you can go out and buy right now. Um, there are a couple of things I'll bring up later that's less tangible, less timed, but, uh, right now is a good time to you know, if you want to read something that's really interesting, an interesting take on the godzilla franchise, on kaiju, because it isn't strictly godzilla. Um, go, go, grab the godzilla number one and godzilla escape the dead zone number one. But I am most looking forward to starship godzilla, because I don't know what they're gonna do and I, I want that insanity in my life very apropos topic for captain kaiju there yeah.

Speaker 2:

So for for the uneducated of us, me and eric, what could? What is the rundown of godzilla escape the dead zone? Because I did look it up and it's something that I'm not super familiar with. So, like, what's going, what's happening?

Speaker 1:

So it's the dead zone. I don't think they've quite explained. They visualize what the dead zone is in that issue, but the dead zone is an area where kaiju are more frequent to attack. There are a lot of mutated people in the area. Or imagine living in a radioactive zone. It's not strictly that everyone's there dying of radiation, because this Godzilla isn't radioactive, but dead zones are all over the world and the people in there are affected by something to some degree. So it's going to look like crud. The people are going to look kind of weird.

Speaker 1:

The main thing of the dead zone is that one of the people there is part Kaiju. It's not really a spoiler because it's on issue, I think like cover a of issue number one. But this is running concurrent. I think it's not confirmed, but I think, based on the Godzilla issue issue one and dead zone, issue one, that we have concurrent storylines that will intersect because they're issue one they talk about the dead zones it's clearly the same time period and issue two. You know it completely ignores all the stuff that happened in issue one, but it's like the story leads me to believe that these two things have to converge. But yeah, it's the the dead zone me to believe that these two things have to converge. But yeah, it's the. The dead zone specifically, is a shitty area. There is still regular world. But are you gonna?

Speaker 3:

say something. Oh, I was gonna say uh, uh, to add to what cory said, just for the uninitiated, the whole kai se era um initiative that's being published by idw is is like an umbrella term for like this series of books and cory's already done a great job of explaining like each one. You got the mainline godzilla story, um, you got godzilla, uh, dead zone and then godzilla lost in space and they're like just different flavors, different takes on like, uh, certain genre books. Like the mainline godzilla book uh follows a superhero team who is tasked and tracking down godzilla and, and you know, killing kaijus and things like that. And it follows a central character that basically gets like the powers of Godzilla. He gets the kaijus energy, which they're dubbing the same, they call it kaijus, the same energy that Godzilla has, for lack of better terms. And then Dead Zone is more like a horror kind of a feel to it, slash like post-apocalyptic, you know genre. So if you're into that type of stuff, you know that that'd be the series.

Speaker 3:

And starship godzilla follows a ragtag team, so things like guardians of the galaxy in space. Their ship is mecha godzilla, which I think is so badass, um, and they get into like space hijinks with like space kaijus. So you know, they're exploring like these different corners of this universe. To cory's point, it's like a shared universe, but there's like just they're just tackling different corners. You got space, you got like the mainline stuff and then you got like the dead zone area of things like that. So, even if you don't know much about Godzilla, I think all of the first issues do a really good job of like explaining what the deal is, very good, jumping on points and IDW speaking to the editor, uh, they're very excited about this. They've worked really closely with toho and the fact that toho is like hell. Yeah, do what you guys do. You know, like you got our blessings. It's official. Um, I think it's a huge deal, uh for them to have like a continuing series like this. You know, like this built-in world.

Speaker 2:

Uh, I think it's pretty exciting yeah, well, eric, you know, as somebody who has, like you know, a small affinity to Godzilla's I have like five Godzilla's within, oh my.

Speaker 1:

God, look at this little sleepy one.

Speaker 2:

I don't have my ducky Godzilla, eric. I think I may have found my way into picking up some comics.

Speaker 4:

finally, yeah, no, that's amazing. I might not be doing that, but hey, I really am enjoying kaiju. Number eight, season two. So for what that's?

Speaker 2:

worth, I was gonna say. When I saw the cover for this for the deads, I was like man.

Speaker 4:

It does remind me of kaiju, number eight all I heard was cory say that someone's a kaiju. I was like, oh yeah, I watched that show.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I know that yeah, it is, it's very shonen. And to to botter's point, the godzilla, the self-titled godzilla, is very shonen, uh, and the main character is definitely the dude from kaiju, number eight. Um, but if you were 20 years younger, uh, I was gonna say also going through a midlife crisis not yet.

Speaker 3:

that'd be a little bit on the nose. Going through a different kind of crisis, yeah.

Speaker 4:

But I think Corey mentioned, like you know how canon is stuff Like that's been the thing that's always like stopped me from like exploring Godzilla outside of like just the movie medium. Honestly, that's been my biggest thing.

Speaker 2:

I think you just don't like Godzilla.

Speaker 4:

I love Godzilla minus one.

Speaker 2:

That's like one of my favorite movies.

Speaker 4:

Love that movie, but you don't like the fun ones yeah, the Americanized ones, because they're not that fun they're so much fun?

Speaker 1:

They're really not.

Speaker 2:

Okay, so, unless you forget, Kong used a little monkey as a bat A big monkey took a little monkey, I hear what you're

Speaker 4:

saying I can watch those clips and be like, well, that was cool. A big monkey through a rock Versus watching a two and a half hour movie about the conflict itself, which is the least interesting thing about it. Come on now.

Speaker 3:

Can I say that really quick. You know, I feel like there's been a trend lately of especially AMC but I think just movie theaters in general, where they're re-releasing a lot of like movies back in theaters, like right now I we're recording tuesday, august 26th I think the tmnt movie the first teenage mutant turtles movie has been uh is in theaters right now they re-release in theaters I guess the yeah, yes, so jaws is another one.

Speaker 3:

Dang, shin godzilla is back in theaters. I don't know if it's already passed, but I I have been wanting to watch Shin Godzilla for a while. So I think it's a cool way of being like oh, I've been wanting to watch this movie for a while. I missed it in theaters when it came out, or I just couldn't go watch it in theaters. Now I have the opportunity to get that movie-going experience for an old new movie, I don't know.

Speaker 2:

It's kind of cool Corey's going to tell you that we didn't like Shin Godzilla. Yeah, he's waiting, he's waiting. It doesn't really help the defense of the I don't like Godzilla thing, except there's really not a lot of Godzilla in there.

Speaker 3:

It's just a lot of conference rooms, so enjoy that. And I've gotten that talk from Corey as well.

Speaker 4:

I think when we recorded our minus one episode.

Speaker 3:

he told me all about it. Yeah, I think when we recorded our minus one episode.

Speaker 4:

he told me all about it. Yeah, I think going in with the right expectations is the right thing to do.

Speaker 2:

There are going to be some really cool scenes to see on the big screen.

Speaker 4:

So I definitely see the appeal yeah, 100%. So I think some of those movies it's a great opportunity to go back in there and maybe watch it for the first time. It's also great for people that have seen the movie to see it again on the big screen if they missed it, like I saw revenge of the sith earlier this year at the theater oh yeah great time great time they're re-releasing the spider-man uh, the raimi spider-man films oh, in a couple weeks.

Speaker 4:

In theaters earlier this year we did that was so fucking good so there's some credence there, like getting these older movies coming to theaters is great for everybody, both new and returning. But, corey, what were you going to talk about? Shin Godzilla? I'll give you, I'll give you the floor. Oh, it's super quick.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I'm not going to go into much other than I think it's the 31st. They're supposed AMC is supposed to be releasing the Shin Godzilla Ortho, which is the black and white version, and I've never seen it in black and white. Uh, I think the the blu-ray I have, I want to say it's the japanese edition and they hadn't even made the black and white version yet, so I have never seen it. So I'm really hyped to go see that because I wanted to support sunray, since we have them now. The it's's at Sunray Stole them, took it from you. Goddamn right, they did.

Speaker 3:

I'm happy for you.

Speaker 1:

Hey, yo them glizzies them Sunray glizzies.

Speaker 4:

I got to tell you just as good as the day I last saw them.

Speaker 4:

It's the BJ glizzy I will mention. Since we're talking about Shin Godzilla, I'll fit this one in because there was a lot of stuff in August, like Phil mention. Since we're talking about Shin Godzilla, I'll fit this one in because there was a lot of stuff in August. Like Phil, I'm going through the discord roundup for later and I'm gonna have to cut, so there's too much. I'm gonna have to filter through this. So I'll throw this in here because we're talking about it. If you don't happen to see Shin Godzilla in theaters, it is coming to HBO Max alongside a ton of anime classics, from your Name to Perfect Blue, uh, starting in september I think. Throughout the year going into next year, there's gonna be a ton of releases. I don't know exactly when shin godzilla is releasing, off the top of my head, but it is coming to hbo max, uh, sooner than later. So there you go, pretty cool there you go, there you go.

Speaker 2:

well, I'm pretty happy. We talked a lot about godzilla, so, uh, that's a good way to start the episode, but, eric, Mm-hmm.

Speaker 3:

Let's bring it back, that MF and wheel. You guys know the drill.

Speaker 4:

Let's go ahead and count it down.

Speaker 3:

I'm a baby, all right, I'm coming to play again.

Speaker 4:

We're going to do a three a two, a one Spin, Spin, spin, spin Spin.

Speaker 3:

Spin Glizzy Wheel. Who said glizzy Come?

Speaker 4:

on kids. Could have been anybody. Could have been anybody. Oh my God, damn All right.

Speaker 2:

There he is.

Speaker 3:

I invited the biggest blabbermouth and I have to be patient. No wait, my turn.

Speaker 2:

Eric, you are up. What did we miss?

Speaker 4:

Oh, eric, you are up. What did we miss in? Oh my god, there is. There is so much to talk about. I'm gonna go with the one that I'm just probably the most passionate about, as as is everybody, because it doesn't matter that this movie has been out for long enough where we should have moved past it, it doesn't matter that the music is catchy and it's just topping the charts. You already know it, phil.

Speaker 4:

We're going to talk about K-pop, demon Hunters, and we're going to just talk about the state of, I think, international and maybe animated films in general, because just this past weekend, not only did K-pop Demon Hunters enter theaters as a sing-along, mind you, after taking the world by storm on Netflix, in addition to that, a little film called Nezha 2, actually released as well, distributed by A24 in English dub, to a little bit of fanfare as well, a movie that, if you did not know, a Chinese animated film that is in the top five highest grossing films ever, not just the highest animated grossing film films in period period Avengers game, titanic, avatar you got to put this film up there with it now, while a lot of those sales have obviously been from the chinese market, these two movies in particular, coming back to theaters. I watched them as a double feature on this past sunday from recording and I couldn't help but just feel a lot of the love for just something different. Here in the States, like when we talk about animated films and the ones you typically go to, you'll think about the minion craze the last year, like when Rise of Gru came out people dressed up as minions Like that's not really that serious when we're talking about, like actual animated films with some substance. Really, k-pop Demon Hunter surprised everybody, I think, and Neja 2 was such a stark difference a little bit in tone but also in animation from the first one, in a very positive way. So I wanted to bring this up because K-Pop Demon Hunter specifically led with an $18 million debut.

Speaker 4:

Again, it came out a month ago, month ago, little over a month ago, almost two months ago now and it topped the box office when it released. Now it was going up against some weak competition. Weapons was in like its third weekend, but it's still very impressive nonetheless. And again, with neja 2 getting a little bit more buzz and a little bit more attention with that english dub, I'm just very curious what everybody feels when it comes to not just these properties, if you've seen them, but more so the state of, like animated films or some of these international films that are starting to make rounds a little bit more. They're starting to come to the limelight and they're starting to now make impacts into the American box office, which I think is a great thing. We have an episode called International Feature, for a reason, right, phil, I think. Just because of that, that was close to home for me, really got my mind going and thinking about just what the market looks like now for that genre.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, bada, let's throw it to you first, because we kind of want to get it. We know Corey has seen it. What do you know about this K-pop demon hunters craze? And also, are you familiar with Nezha 2? Again, a film that released in the Chinese market to big numbers early in the year is just now hitting US box offices as far as dub goes. Do you know anything about these two movies or what's your familiarity with them?

Speaker 3:

No, but that's why I like you guys. You guys have your finger on the pulse when it comes to pop culture, mainstream pop culture, and especially like topics like these pop culture, mainstream pop culture, and especially like topics like these. So naza too, um, I would think I was looking for a movie to go watch in theaters, like last week or two, and I kept seeing the poster for naza too and I was like what the fuck is this? And I also saw the, the poster for k-pop, demon hunters. So it caught me by surprise.

Speaker 3:

I don't know much about if I'm being fully honest, but this kind of relates to the topic that that, uh, the new story that I've got, um and eric I think you said it best it is interesting to watch the fascination with, um, you know, korean pop culture and, and manga I'm sorry, manhwa, I think they call manhwa over there um, animated movies and everything like that get over here and have such a global appeal.

Speaker 3:

And I wonder I think you you said it uh, you said something to the effect of um, you know, uh, just wanting something different. You know, some of the biggest complaints that you'll hear about, you know, american movies is that it feels like it's always a franchise or an unnecessary sequel or a rehash of some existing property. And I wonder if maybe that is appealing, maybe that plays a role into the success of things like K-pop, demon Hunter or Neza. Is that it's something different, you know, it's unique, it's a standalone thing. I think also, just the massive popularity of, you know, k-pop, music and anime, you know, since COVID, I mean, I think all those factors play a role here.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, that's a great call out because it goes against the grain of what people normally say. If you guys are on social media, if you're in movie circles Phil, I know you hear this a lot Original movies are dead. All we get is sequels, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But there is so much proof to show that there are original concepts that people gravitate towards. And while it is kind of true because a lot of those sequels that shouldn't be making money are making money and the original films are not there are times like this where it really goes the opposite direction, which I think is really neat. And, corey, I mean I know you've definitely heard of this, but Botter, what else do you want to add?

Speaker 3:

I also want to say that I feel like the technology for making animated movies is so leagues ahead of maybe what we grew up with, like the dawn of animated movies, the early Pixar stuff and DreamWorks. It's like I think about across the Spider-Verse how like just groundbreaking that movie was. It feels like now that's the norm of, like you know, very colorful, very pristine animated movies. It's like the new norm. So I mean, I feel like animated movies are having like a huge renaissance, you know a new renaissance period for themselves.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, no, 100 percent, and I'll take Phil's line here. Take a shot, if you're listening to the podcast, because you already know we're going to bring up one of a couple things. I mean, phil's brought it up multiple times how Disney used to kind of just be the only thing that people looked at as the staple for animation and they're getting lapped. They're getting lapped by Sony Pictures. They're now getting lapped by an international company in China, the ones that do Neja 2, and other Dreamworks. Take a shot. Puss in Boots. You already know I'm going to bring it up. Puss in Boots.

Speaker 2:

The.

Speaker 4:

Last Wish is genuinely a top 10 favorite film for me all time.

Speaker 2:

I love that movie.

Speaker 4:

I love that movie so fucking much, but it's so great from an animation standpoint specifically that, yeah, it's just so, so damn good. Corey, this is your chance to kind of hop in here. What has been your feeling with all the craze around either of these properties and just again, the topic in general about how these original movies are kind of taking new life in the American culture, the so the, the specifically for K-pop demon hunters hunters, but it will spread to basically everything else.

Speaker 1:

The thing that I feel like I've heard people say is k-pop demon hunters is everything that disney wants to be, the, the stories that they're trying to tell, but they're so stuck on that uh, kind of pixar feel or the princess feel. It's like someone's mom has to die or there has to be like an ugly stepmother, and that's, I feel like a lot of the times why their, their new properties aren't doing well, it's because they're not writing very good stories. The music isn't that great, um, or maybe the message isn't quite what they thought it should be. And k-pop demon hunters I think we watched it twice in the same week. Brennan and I watched it and then we were hanging out with neighbors and it's like, you know, we things kind of calmed down and it's like, hey, y'all want to watch k-pop demon hunters. And they're like, yeah, sure, whatever. So we watched it with him. Yeah, k-pop slaps.

Speaker 1:

I think at this point, every everyone knows it. But those who have not been wanting to listen to k-pop, uh, like, I've been listening to k-pop for what are you? Probably like 11 or 12 years, like I'm not super deep into it. But I I at least know of music as far back as a decade ago and it's been interesting to see it evolve in that time. So, yeah, even longer than that. Because Psy good god, I don't know when Gangnam Style came out, but it was before that. But now more people know of it and it is a pop sound that America doesn't quite have, so specifically for k-pop, demon hunters, people. People are like oh cool, it is a an animated musical, number one. It looks very much like Spider-Man, but toned down, still very high quality. Just not none of the sparkles that Spider-Man has, but very well animated, very artistically animated, not bubbly and round and soft, looking like disney has kind of gotten into um, and then again an amazing soundtrack. Like it doesn't really matter how you feel about the movie, um, whether you like it or not. I know so many I. I have some of the whitest friends I know that are like yo, yeah, I just watched, they just watched it in, just watched it in theaters with their girlfriend and they're like yeah, I've been listening to your idol on repeat and so I literally have had to go out of my way to like start creating a playlist, to be like okay, let me just overload you with stuff. You know where this came from.

Speaker 1:

On the topic of Neja and foreign films in general, it's still kind of the same thing. Everyone has their own way of telling a story and that's why every country has their own type of literature. Um, japanese have their own very weird type of drama. Uh, we, we like our generally action flicks, we like our princess stories, um, but when you have something like neja that makes its way over here because I I'm pretty sure I've seen neja, I need to re-watch it to be sure. But the first one looks very familiar and 2019 sounds about right for how, like when? I think I might have seen that.

Speaker 1:

But you know, animated films are coming from overseas. High quality animated films are coming from these overseas studios and they're telling easy to consume stories, but in a different way than what we're familiar with, and with, uh, places like Netflix. Um, trying to think of any kind of obscure streaming service, hulu wouldn't air it, uh, but you've got HBO, we'll kind of pull in some weird stuff. Netflix is probably the biggest one that pulls in the strangest things.

Speaker 1:

It's a lot easier to get kids into foreign content and then have them start saying oh you know, maybe maybe I really like Chinese stuff, maybe I like Korean stuff, and I think this is speaking to Disney and Pixar. They have so many movies that are that are about various heritages. You know, you've got Moana, you've got Encanto, yeah, even how to Train your Dragon is, you know, viking mythology. So you have all of these, all of these, you, you know tales that are coming from other, that are based on, you know, other countries or other time periods, but they're not coming from those countries. It's not a story that's being told by the people who grew up in that. So it is, yeah, it's something that's fascinating, like that's. That's why I'm into a lot of japanese stuff, chinese, korean, I think, I think cory's nailing it.

Speaker 3:

uh, I think there's a certain novelty to it as well as a sense of like, oh, this is how it's done over there. You know, and I don't mean that in a derogatory term, but like, oh, for example, I'm looking up Nezha is based on and I probably am saying it wrong, I apologize, but it's based on a Chinese mythological story from like the 16th century. I just got done playing black myth wukong, which is also based on one of the oldest mythologies ever. You know, a journey to the uh, journey to the west, and it, it, it, it had me hooked for almost like the better part of this year and I think there was a little bit of that novelty to it where it's like, oh, this is based on a chinese story that I've, you know, I've, I'm familiar with, but I don't know to the extent.

Speaker 3:

And then you know, you do research and it's like, oh, this is like the biggest, this is their odyssey. You know, like how we worship, you know stories like the odyssey. It is interesting to be like, oh, this is, I'm being introduced to a different culture, to uh, to their stories, and I mean it's fresh, right, like, it makes sense that something like a 824 or Netflix would hop on this, like they're looking for original content. And you know, and I think, in this day and age of the Internet, like there is no boundaries for exporting creative things like this. It doesn't matter that you know it may come from China or Korea. It's like you know, this is the Internet, this is the age of entertainment, like we'll consume it all if it's fresh this is the age of entertainment, like we'll consume it all if it's fresh.

Speaker 2:

I I will say and, eric, I'm sure you've come across this too as far as the dub release of nasia 2 did not perform very well, and I probably feel like it's because any of us that wanted to see it saw it back in february. I've told you that I'm not the biggest fan of the dub. Um, so, you know, as far as audiences go, like it didn't seem they were super interested in this because they a lot of people that they are probably trying to market to, like a24 is taking a stab at this probably didn't see the first movie. So, yeah, they probably should have released the first movie in dub in theaters earlier in this year, maybe when the second movie came out in sub, and then done it this way. It was just a really interesting decision to all this time, six months later, release the dub when, yeah, most of us have already seen it that are familiar with the franchise. You know.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, and I think the fact that it got the A24 release. They got Michelle Yeoh on board to voice a character that she didn't voice in the first one and wasn't great. I'm gonna be honest with you.

Speaker 4:

It's unfortunate, but that being said, it's a big name attached to it and the fact that it got that re-release. I mean, that movie isn't harmed from that release because it is so popular overseas, but I think the fact that it got that distribution is just a big vote of confidence. Now, of course, I'm sure A24 saw the numbers of Neja too and they said, yeah, we got to try to take a shot at that. And I think you are right, phil, had they released the first one leading up to it, I think more people would have been interested to check it out. I do think it's a movie you could potentially see without seeing the first one. There is some context missing there, but it's so grand and epic that I think it could be done. But again, it wasn't really marketed in that way and I think that had a lot to do with it. And then, in the talks of K-pop Demon Hunters, one thing to clarify too this was a Sony Pictures project, so it was an American Boy, did they fumble?

Speaker 4:

It was an American project that was released about K-pop, demon Hunters. But everything about this film was true to the culture, true from the way that the characters were drawn to the music. All of that stuff was very authentic and it's very scary to see an American company try to do something as ambitious as this. It normally goes left. So the fact that it went the complete opposite direction and was a success is amazing. The bummer, like you mentioned, phil sony pictures then sold it to netflix and now netflix is reaping all the didn't believe in it, they didn't believe in it.

Speaker 2:

And now it. Now netflix has a hold of it and uh, you know we're gonna get sequels, it's completed.

Speaker 1:

When sony got rid of, when they sold it, was it like fully finished? Did netflix have to?

Speaker 2:

I'm not complete anything themselves.

Speaker 1:

Okay, I do believe that was the case, though I think, I think, I think they were not sure it was enough that they should have known what they had, in my opinion.

Speaker 4:

But I don't think they thought it would perform very well and uh, yeah, I mean I'm too busy not making Spider-Man across the spider.

Speaker 2:

Whatever the hell. The next one is Don't be worried, I will be honest, though.

Speaker 4:

I mean, we talked about K-Pop, demon Hunter on this series for the podcast and I was like I don't have any interest in this especially once I saw it. Oh yeah, I pointed it out a long time ago, like a few months back. That plays basketball. So like you know what I mean, like I'm not going to be interested in.

Speaker 3:

I'm not going to be interested in every.

Speaker 4:

And then they did like a dog, Ren and Stimpy, type like type like gross comedy, dark comedy type thing.

Speaker 1:

Oh, was it that Gennady Tartakovsky thing you?

Speaker 4:

would know what it is. It's like yeah it's apparently a lot of dog buttholes is what I heard. It's like, yeah, it's apparently a lot of dog buttholes is what I heard.

Speaker 2:

So I'm not going to always love everything.

Speaker 4:

Sony Pictures does. But I think I was more thrown off, fixed, yeah, I think I was more thrown off by the fact that, again, it wasn't like an international film and they were trying to just like capitalize on K-pop. And, yes, the K-pop music in there is very catchy, but there's so much heart behind some of these songs and the message and just the delivery, everything about it, uh, top-notch, cannot recommend it enough. I don't know if I told you this. I did bump it up to a four and a half out of five. Let's go.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, there's, no, there's no theater experience would have changed the whole thing. Oh, it was so good, it was so good, so good I'm, I'm on.

Speaker 4:

I'm like this close to putting neja 2 at a 4.5 I I don't know if I can give it to it yet, but uh, k-pop, demon hunters is my number one movie of the year, probably won't be defeated and it is at a four and a half out of five. Uh, the only reason it doesn't get the five is celine. It's specifically that that just there's not enough growth with that character. Uh, phil for the um, for the scene towards the end of the film. So I don't think it'll ever get a five in my opinion, but a four and a half, I mean, is damn near perfect the last thing I'll say about um as I bring up the wheel.

Speaker 2:

the last thing I'll say before we spin is it's it's kind of crazy that neja doesn't have any type of presence over here, because and like we've talked about, I think, when we did the episode on it we don't see anything at conventions Neja related, and that's how you get a really good pulse on what is what people are looking for. You go to a convention right now all K-pop Demon Hunters. You can't turn a corner in Artist Alley without seeing K-pop Demon Hunter stuff.

Speaker 1:

I've never once seen anything Neja, which is a bummer because it does feel like especially the first one, would appeal very much so to a specific younger demographic, but it's got no footprint. But we'll see, they'll be in asia. Three, so we'll see. Yeah, real quick before the spin at tampa bay comic-con uh, on day two there was a dude bare minimum six and a half feet tall, probably like six, eight, you know, built like a basketball player, walking around in the final roomie outfit amazing white top yeah, white crop top, white short skirt anime because I saw a very similar cosplay super tall dude, yeah with yeah yep with the pattern skirt, crop top yep, yeah.

Speaker 2:

So yeah, uh, if you can't tell about it, we very much recommend it, so uh, make it, make it a movie night and I am just sitting here absorbing, but you guys have kind of sold me on this.

Speaker 3:

Uh, nasia, I think I'm gonna check it out.

Speaker 2:

We're going down this global phenomenon they if they re-released in theaters. We're going down to sunray. We'll watch it in Tampa.

Speaker 4:

Hell yeah, hell yeah.

Speaker 3:

Weight Watchers unite. There you go, that's right. I'll bring the glizzies.

Speaker 2:

All right, eric, I'll just bring my own. All right, Eric, you're up. All right guys. Oh my God.

Speaker 4:

You know what? Is that my voice? Is that my voice?

Speaker 2:

Is that my voice?

Speaker 1:

We're going to count down Three, two, one, spin, spin.

Speaker 4:

That Wheel Wheel. Wow, that was really good. We got the wheel part down. We did you guys did great there.

Speaker 2:

It's basically a 50 50.

Speaker 3:

Oh, you guys gonna get a double dose of me at the end, I guarantee you, hell yeah honestly that that doesn't work, because we usually do it.

Speaker 4:

Didn't make the cut, so we might as well.

Speaker 2:

Go back to back perfect there we go, it worked out yeah, and also mine's kind of like relatively short, I might throw in my second one, we'll see how this goes. But. But I just kind of wanted to talk to you guys, these two guests, specifically, just kind of about the rebooting of the DCU or the new DCU essentially, you know, with James Gunn taking the helm, and I want to get your thoughts on Superman. We'll do that in a moment.

Speaker 2:

But James Gunn has addressed Margot Robbie's place in the new DCU and also another character he would like to bring in. He was quoted as a pretty, pretty short quote, but he said that'll be revealed down the line in terms of Marco Robbie's involvement. But then he also went on to say I definitely am always looking for a place to put Bloodsport and figuring that out, of course referring to Idris Elba from the Suicide Squad, at least released a couple of years ago. So first question, before we get to just kind of the DCU overall and also Superman, are there any other characters from any of the DCEU movies that you would like to see return? He has said he's going to bring Blue Beetle in, the same actor whose name is escaping me right now, and I watched that movie last year. It's not bad, it's.

Speaker 2:

I wouldn't have seen it in theaters but it's pretty enjoyable in terms of by itself and the characters were enjoyable, it looks like a movie that delivers exactly what the trailers probably show. Exactly so I'm happy for that actor because he seems like a great guy. So are there any characters you'd like to see return in James Gunn's DCU? And then kind of get your overall thoughts on Superman, because I'm pretty sure both of you have seen it. I'll throw it to you first, corey.

Speaker 1:

I want Cyborg from Doom Patrol because the actor was great and he had. They had real armor and real props and they would use CG to switch between them, but they were still real props and I thought that was a lot of fun. I kind of doubt they're going to go that route, but I really would like to see, uh, more cyborg because he's been, like I think, done the most dirty for being such a cool character. Yeah, like he they. They had to release a whole other four hour cut of a movie just to bring cyborg back, and I don't I mean, I can probably name two people who've seen him in doom patrol and I'm only assuming that one of them is botter. I don't know if you actually watch that or not?

Speaker 3:

I think I did not. Actually it was the same.

Speaker 1:

It was the same actor a different actor, different.

Speaker 1:

Yeah okay, got it, got it yeah different actor, um, but like the whole outfit, everything was uh, it's, he's wearing a real outfit, it's no cg, so it just looked great. And again, whenever he would have to transform his arm from like a fist to a gun, they would use cg to do the transformation, but it would still be a real, like gun arm prop at the end of that transformation. Um, but even, uh, even in the the snyder cut, we just I, I thoroughly enjoyed, uh, cyborg's role. I don't know any of the teen titans, I don't know well. As far as returning because the question was returning characters I think that's who I would want. I've had enough of jason momoa Aquaman.

Speaker 2:

He's going to be great. Who's he going to be? He's going to be.

Speaker 3:

Lobo, which I think is there, we go Just like that, I think, is just be you so much better yeah.

Speaker 1:

Like I, I enjoyed him as Aquaman. I'm not I'm not dissing that Aqua bro was probably like the highlight of that entire franchise, but light of that entire franchise, uh, but yeah, I, everyone else, it's like no, I, I take it back the suicide squad. They had good characters, yes, but cyborg, cyborg they could do more with him. Everyone else, I think, got their just desserts, like come on, look at peacemaker. And idris elba like it's so good, they've got enough, yeah butter.

Speaker 2:

What about you? Would you like to see return, and when? Why is it duane the rock johnson as black?

Speaker 3:

eye. Look, that movie was so bad. We haven't heard from duane, uh. We haven't heard from the rock sense.

Speaker 2:

He went back to wrestling he's uh he's in a scorsese movie, so that's what he he heard he's about to be in this. Is it scorsese eric or is it um?

Speaker 4:

yeah, no, it it's a.

Speaker 2:

Scorsese film. He's filming that now, and then the Smashing.

Speaker 4:

Machine that's coming out, the MMA movie he's doing Get out of here. He's been quiet though.

Speaker 2:

He's been quiet as hell. First he had to ruin WrestleMania and then now he's returning to acting.

Speaker 3:

But anyway, father who?

Speaker 2:

would you like to see?

Speaker 3:

I'm sorry, I'm just like so blown away right now by, uh, the rock really is starring in a scorsese movie I got, I mean, come on, god, I kind of want, and it's leonardo dicaprio is going to be in this movie too, apparently okay anyway, sorry, sorry to answer yeah right to answer. Oh, and emily blunt as well. Anyways, uh, to answer your question, uh, I'm gonna go with uh king shark from the 2021 James Gunn Suicide Squad movie, which, you know, we're talking about a CGI character, but voiced by none other than Sylvester.

Speaker 1:

Stallone, sylvester Stallone, which.

Speaker 3:

I thought was a good mirror to like you know we had Vin Diesel.

Speaker 2:

Yes or no way, that is your hand. You know Vin Diesel playing.

Speaker 3:

Groot. Sylvester Stallone playing King Shark Just feels right. I feel like there needs to be that balance between the DCU and the MCU. And you know I've gone on record in saying that the James Gunn Suicide Squad movie is one of my favorite superhero movies period. That movie was phenomenal, you know. Like he just continued to prove, like I will take any ragtag team, any z-list character you got, for goodness sakes. He had david uh daltz malchian playing polka dot man in this movie and I teared up at polka dot man's, like you know, final scene uh margaret robey is, would have been my answer had you not already prefaced the uh this topic with that. I think she is the epitome of harley quinn. She brings a certain flair, uh fun and just homicidal, just fun to any movie that she's in. So it's good to hear that he's trying to bring back as many, many of like the good actors, at least from like, the previous incarnation of the dcu, um edra's album being another good one. So final answer sylvester stallone playing King Shark.

Speaker 1:

Why not Jared Leto's about to be freed up once Tron releases?

Speaker 3:

You don't have to. He can stay with my guy.

Speaker 2:

Way over there. Yeah, also, I think it'll be good to bring it's going to be good to bring back Margot and also Jason Momoa, because they were. They both really care about their characters as well. Yeah, and they feel a sense of ownership over them, which is great. I don't think this counts because this show is still going on, but like can we get a live action Kite man? I would just really enjoy hearing Kite man.

Speaker 4:

Hell, yeah, you already know we're getting Kite man, so I don't know why you brought that up. Look, knowing James Gunn, you know he loves he was. Yeah, I don't know why you brought that up, knowing James Gunn he loves the obscure characters that are supposed to be a joke.

Speaker 3:

He loves making them even more of a joke, but also adding some heart to it.

Speaker 4:

We're getting Kite man, calendar man, any man, all the man.

Speaker 2:

All the man. I don't need your help. I'm a goddamn Mr Terrific. Insert adjective man. Mr Terrific was so good.

Speaker 3:

If you have an adjective before your name and your last name is man, you'll probably be in a jam.

Speaker 2:

You're probably in.

Speaker 3:

That's true, that's true.

Speaker 2:

Eric, what about you? Are there any of those characters you would like to see in the James Gunn DCU?

Speaker 4:

I would like to have a pretty fresh slate. I know they talked about how bad everything ended with Henry Cavill like being announced as returning as Superman, but he wasn't actually gonna be, so they had to have a talk. They did say maybe he'd have another role, so as an actor, as a sign of good faith, that'd be maybe interesting. I think what would be more interesting and I don't know if you can really count this as part of the DCEU, but I'll say it till I'm blue in the face I want to see the guy that played the Flash in the CW television show.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, the Flash in live action, something Grant right.

Speaker 3:

What's his first name? Grant Gustin.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, grant Gustin, I think, is his name. I should know that, because the first two seasons of the Flash, specifically where they do the Flashpoint story, it's fantastic.

Speaker 4:

Fantastic for what they put on television and what they could put on television. It just puts everything that they've tried to do with the flash and live action so far, uh on the big screen to shame. So I would love to see him get a real crack at it. Uh, because I really do think he embodies what I think of when I think of barry allen. But I'd also be interested to see some, uh, you know, wally west, some other flashes, because I really do think he embodies what I think of when I think of Barry Allen. But I'd also be interested to see some Wally West, some other flashes. That would be interesting too. So they could go that route and I wouldn't be mad. But yeah, grant Gustin would be my choice.

Speaker 2:

We were joking about it. I know, I joked about it a little bit earlier. But what about Pierce?

Speaker 3:

Brosnan as.

Speaker 2:

Dr Fate, I feel like that was actually one of the good parts of the.

Speaker 3:

Black Adam movie, so I wouldn't hate that Probably the best part of that.

Speaker 4:

It was the Justice what, the Justice what do?

Speaker 1:

they call them Justice Society, justice Society.

Speaker 4:

I'd be good with all of them, Like that whole group. That was probably the more enjoyable part. They were the best part of the movie yeah.

Speaker 2:

But, yeah, it would be excited that some of those characters will be returning, and you know he's off to a really good start. So, yeah, before we get into the last wheel spin which we will do, don't worry, botter Do you guys want to give really quick thoughts on Superman before we? Before we move on, botter, I'll throw it to you first.

Speaker 3:

I think I record a whole episode about Superman, but I will I will. I will condense it into this. Superman was needed, I think. Had that movie flopped, I think we would all be looking at James Gunn in this new DC universe relaunch a little sideways, but I had no doubt in my mind that it was going to be a success. Considering the amount of marketing that they put in, I mean, how good the movie was itself Very refreshing, you know like to see Superman get the spotlight again. That's how Superman should be. You know he's one of the most iconic characters of all of. You know American pop culture. You know like he is American pop culture. You know he's Americana as they come. So that is the reverence and prestige that I think that character deserves. And it was just a really fun movie.

Speaker 3:

I had like very minor gripes, I think.

Speaker 3:

You know it's a movie that hits the ground running and sometimes we sacrifice character depth and, like you know, really kind of getting into like the nitty-gritty, you know, and certain explanations gets tossed to the side in favor of just a very fast-paced, fun, action-packed movie. You know I was talking to Blythe about this and she brought it up because we were watching Peacemaker where it's like, you know, peacemaker feels like James Gunn at his best. It's like, hey, this is what James Gunn does. He does very crude, very you know X-rated comedy and humor and you know, for the adults, you know, and I feel like when he does Peacemaker it's him having all the fun. I can just tell he's having a blast being obscure, absurd, and all of that With Superman. You know he killed it, but I'd be curious to see that Superman in another director's hands who's maybe a little less jokey and wants to elevate, you know, the character in a more serious way. But overall I mean, come on, that superman movie was phenomenal. It's probably gonna end up on my best of list for sure.

Speaker 2:

Best of end of the year, best of list for sure yeah, I've seen it twice and I've said this before as someone who did not care about superman. Um, going through that movie and seeing it the first time, I was like I get it. I like I understand, understand why Superman sits on this pedestal for people, because for years I just didn't really care too much. Corey, what about you?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I really enjoyed it. I also recorded a like five minute thing just this morning for the Comic Zombie Podcast, which is run by Eric Slater. So, yeah, they're going to be releasing an episode on Superman. They already did like a full review of the whole visual franchise, uh, and now they're going to be doing one of the upcoming movie.

Speaker 1:

But my main takeaway and I'll focus it on Superman was this is kind of the ideal version of the one dimensional Superman. When creators make a one dimensional character that has like one thing that they stick to, the creators themselves are generally the ones that fault. When those characters start Creators make a one-dimensional character that has like one thing that they stick to, the creators themselves are generally the ones at fault when those characters start to kind of become boring or just fall out of favor. You know I'm generally with like Phil and with a lot of people, I don't like Superman Conceptually great, terrible execution.

Speaker 1:

But this is great because he's one-sided, he's altruistic and that is put to the test and he has to choose to remain altruistic and I think one of the best parts of the movie is when he gets mad at lex. A lot of people don't realize that you can be altruistic and mad monks can get mad. And he screams at him and he's like you know, I love, I have, you know, feelings. I cry, like all this stuff and the entire movie. This dude's just trying to find his dog and we find out at the end that he's just helping out his sister who makes terrible life choices. He's trying to maintain his love life and have a professional career and then at the very end it's like he breaks and he's like dude, just fucking stop.

Speaker 3:

Like I'm just like that really quick. On top of that, he's also dealing with a massive smear camp, smear campaign yeah everything that he grew up thinking about his, his birth parents is, like you know, wrong yeah, so he's.

Speaker 1:

He's got a lot of emotions on his plate and this movie does a great job of like what does a paragon of society have to face and how do they deal with it? And it's not as overly dramatic as man of Steel, but he still has a lot to face and you can see him cracking as the movie is going on because all he wants to do is the right thing and then, in order to escape, he's got to help some random ass dude's baby. He's getting sucked into like an interdimensional portal.

Speaker 3:

Like he had a rough week man. In the same regard, it's also really cool that James Gunn decides to lean into the sci-fi, almost fantasy elements of Superman, when it's all these trials Almost as if he's a mythological character like Hercules, the 12 Trials of Hercules, all these things that Superman has to overcome and accomplish in what seems like a 48-hour time span yeah, I think really paints the picture of just the kind of world that he lives in.

Speaker 2:

I will not forgive the test audiences for making them remove, because this all happens within the span of a week and throughout the movie there were title cards, essentially Monday, tuesday, wednesday.

Speaker 4:

Thursday. Kind of similar to what they did in the Suicide.

Speaker 2:

Squad, which I know, Eric, you didn't like that part of it, but yeah, it all happened over the course of a few days and test audiences didn't like it, so they removed it.

Speaker 3:

Fair enough. You know, this is definitely, I think, because this movie had so much writing on it. I can see how they would want to maybe make those kind of changes based on the reaction. Most of the times I'm like oh, you know, don't be a don't be a punk. Like you know, stick to the artistic vision. But I think a lot was riding for this movie so not surprised.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so, but yeah, dcu trending in the right direction. I actually do have one more. The last person, the person they should actually bring back, is Milton from the Suicide Squad, who dies unceremoniously and who's Milton Milton? Was still with us. Do you remember the guy that dies in?

Speaker 1:

the office. Oh yeah, and he's like Milton was still with us.

Speaker 2:

And Harley's like who's Milton?

Speaker 3:

That's right, damn, I forgot about that. So yeah let's bring Con.

Speaker 2:

Milton and then bring Milton back. But speaking of bringing things back, Eric, one more time.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, yeah, awesome, yeah, thank goodness Thank goodness, I like that.

Speaker 3:

Who's it going to be? Will we have?

Speaker 2:

red, blue butter or red pill butter.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, we're going to find out.

Speaker 4:

We are going to find out.

Speaker 3:

All right guys. Red pill, butter, all right.

Speaker 4:

We're going to count down, we're going to do it Three, two, one.

Speaker 1:

Spin that wheel.

Speaker 2:

Who's it going to be? Oh boy, I got a lot riding on Botter.

Speaker 3:

Oh, Red Botter Red.

Speaker 1:

Nice Pokemon Red Botter.

Speaker 2:

All right.

Speaker 3:

Botter. I hate Moroccans coming to our country in these Chinese movies.

Speaker 2:

That's just Red Botter, red Botter, right, all right.

Speaker 3:

Botter.

Speaker 2:

What did we miss in the month of August? So?

Speaker 3:

obviously butter, right. All right, what did we miss in the month of august? Uh, so, obviously I was. Uh, do I overthink? Absolutely I overthink a lot of things. So I overthought, like what stories I was gonna bring to the wait for a podcast, because I didn't want to, I didn't want to like come half-stepping right and I was like, well, obviously I'm the the comic book guy, I'm the podcast guy, so I gotta bring some comic book topics, like I want to make it interesting.

Speaker 3:

So both of my stories are centered around comic books, but digital, what's going on in the digital space, because that to me has been a very interesting space in the comic book industry and seeing how that is developing and finally getting caught up with the time. So my first story both of these obviously came from the middle of August. My first story is based on the Global Comics comic book platform. All right, so Global Comics is a digital comic book platform, meaning that they host a lot of different comic books. You can go there and read DC comics, you could read indie comics from Image Comics, boom Comics. But they also let indie creators host their comics on this platform, and not just from america but all over the world.

Speaker 3:

That's the name global comics it's in the name so you know you could read comic books from indie creators from egypt, africa, the philippines, uh, korea, you know, etc. Like all over it's. It's open to everyone. Well, earlier this month they announced that they are now partnering up with kodansha, which is one of the largest, you know, most iconic manga publishers out there, to put some of their titles and properties on the global comics platform, which is a huge deal in terms of, you know, uh, increasing the uh accessibility and reach of manga. I think, right now for Kodansha and when I say Kodansha, some of the titles and series that they have and own Attack on Titan, battle, angel, alita, ghost in the Shell is apparently also a Kodansha series, initial D Vinland Saga, like all of these very popular iconic manga series that belong to Kodansha. Right now, for you to even read those series, you either have to buy the physical books at like a Books, a Million or a bookstore, or be subscribed to their digital platform. I think they've got a standalone app as well. Well, this now just increases the reach of these manga series. You know, because Global Comics is a very fast and very rising in popularity among like folks like myself who like to read their comic books digitally. Global comics already like hosts over a thousand, a hundred, I think. When I checked it was like over a hundred thousand comics, so you can imagine how much that has increased now with the uh addition of kodansha titles as well. Um, so, very big, very uh a a big deal, and I think this is something that you know. I'm definitely going to be watching this going forward, because there is no other to my knowledge at the moment. I think there might be something in the works, but I don't think any other digital comic platform has, you know, has partnered with a manga publisher, so this is a big deal in that regard that you know. You can go to one place to read American as well as global comics, but also manga, which is typically not the most reading manga digitally is. You know, either you've got the Shonen Jump app or you get the Viz Media app.

Speaker 3:

Like I said, I want to say Kodansha has their own service as well, but now you've got another option as well. So, according to this article from Comics Beat, it says that on August 21st, which is already passed, they put 500 hand-picked books from Kodansha's catalog on the Global Comics platform. One thing that I do want to note is that for Global Comics, you can either have a free account or you can pay like a very nominal, like monthly membership fee. I think they've also got an annual fee as well. It's like 60 bucks and you get access to just about every book on there. Some books are hidden behind a paywall, but with this particular partnership, uh, at the moment it's a la carte, so it's not like you can stream or read the books for free, like you get the first couple pages of any of these manga series I named, and then it's like, hey, you know, whatever 10 bucks to get the rest, which is, you know, obviously not the thing that most of us want to hear, but it's a step in the right direction. At least they're available within the same platform. As you know, I could be reading Attack on Titan and then switch over to like Invincible if I wanted, within the same app, which I think is pretty cool. So August 21st they did a very kind of like soft launch of over 500 titles and then later this week actually this week that we're recording, august 27th they're adding another like thousand.

Speaker 3:

Now they're really opening the floodgates in terms of what they're offering. So, like I said, we're looking at Attack on Titan, witch Hat Atelier I think that's how you say it Vinland Saga and a whole bunch of other ones will be available on Global Comics. One little bonus thing that I want to mention, too, is that, uh, some of these are getting like simulcast, so the same time that it comes out, you know, in Japan or wherever, will also be available at the same time on Global Comics. Specifically, they're the Young Magazine. Have you guys ever heard of that?

Speaker 3:

Young Magazine is like, uh, another version of, like Shonen Jump. Remember the old Shonen Jump magazines? Well, young magazine is much like that too, which I think is is very interesting, because, as someone that used to go to beg his dad to go to win dixie, to go buy the paper, you know, shonen jump phone book size book, I have been kind of fiending for something like that again, to like kind of have like an anthology series. So, uh, global comics is doing some interesting things with kadansha. Very interesting, uh, that they were able to get this partnership. I know that, like I said, manga publishers can sometimes be very tricky when it comes to offering digital titles. Um, so, looking forward to seeing how this grows and what the next steps are. I wish I had a cool question to follow up on that, but I guess any initial thoughts at this and I guess, corey, I'm looking at you because you're my resident anime manga guy.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so, like right now, it seems like most of the stuff they have is it's older. I mean naming titles like Thin Saga, Ghost in the Shell, attack on titan. This is stuff that's already done, but there is. I I think this is pretty cool. As far as getting access to stuff, um, I was literally just I was at the comic shop earlier today.

Speaker 1:

Uh, he didn't realize, and most people do not realize, that one of the most popular ways to distribute manga in japan, even going as far back as at like at least the 80s, is where I keep finding stuff and you'll have this massive, you know it's almost like a phone book but it's definitely a coffee table book and it'll be maybe a dozen different manga in one chapter of each thing. So, like when you go out and buy a tankoban, that's five chapters. You're looking at about five months worth of, you know, say, shonen Jump, because we know it. Even trying to find stuff, I was going over a Battle Angel Alita title last year and was struggling.

Speaker 1:

I thought it was cool, because that is Kodansha as well. They are releasing it digitally but they are not translating it. So I think if there is a level of popularity with something like global comics, that maybe, uh, that would encourage them to invest more in translation, because, beyond the couple of issues that I had, if I wanted to read more I had to read scanlations. I literally it was just like being a child again. I had to go to a forum to find scanlations of this manga.

Speaker 3:

Preach it, brother. And to Corey's point that is the other hurdle when it comes to having manga digital is that you know, some series are out of print, long out of print or very expensive, or have never been translated, and I think I read an article earlier this year about how a few different manga publishers are investing heavily in AI to help them overcome just the manpower required to translate a lot of their old stories. Corey, you might appreciate this, but like Nako Irasawa, who's one of our favorite manga creators ever his stuff I believe that he's got a contract in place I don't know if it's him per se or Kodansha that his stuff does not get a digital release. You cannot find his stuff digital because stuff does not get a digital release, like you cannot find his stuff digital because he does not want it released digital. So there's a lot of different hurdles that come with trying to have manga accessible digital. I think this is a step in the right direction that a Japanese company is working with an American company to provide this to the masses.

Speaker 1:

Well, you were talking about the AI thing, because I know on the film end, obviously when it comes to translating and when it comes to distribution, there's a whole lot of infighting. And just on the English side, botter, you've spoken with many creators who've talked about that, but I earlier no, last year it took like a year for me to get a DVD that had been waiting on, uh, but it was of three shin common or three common writer movies, and the reason it took so long the guy it's a one dude runs this company and he released a video and he's like look, I just want to like break down how this process works so that y'all are on the same level as me. He's like these Japanese companies.

Speaker 1:

The reason why this stuff is so hard to get over here is because they don't care. It's already made money or maybe not made money, so they do not care about distributing, distributing it globally. So they want someone else to come in if you're an english-speaking audience, say an american single dude to hire people to get it translated, so that the company's not actually footing the bill on something that, again, may or may not have been very popular. Uh, so, with something like global comics, hopefully that could maybe encourage. I mean, we've already we've got crunchy roll. You've already mentioned a couple of the ones that are putting out stuff, but hopefully the japanese can see that there is a market for a lot of this stuff, that maybe, if they foot however many thousands you know hundreds of thousands it takes for the series to be properly translated, scanned, all that stuff, uh, you know, maybe they could get something from it.

Speaker 3:

Phil Eric lightning round question. What is the last manga you've read or what is your favorite manga you've ever read?

Speaker 2:

This is a way more difficult question to answer for Eric than it is for me.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, I was going to say, Phil's probably straightforward.

Speaker 1:

Eric can't read. We know that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, first off, eric can't read, that's why you guys have my Patreon.

Speaker 3:

You guys are Eric can't read. We know that. Yeah, first off, eric can't read, so for me. That's why you guys have a Patreon. You guys are paying for reading classes for Eric.

Speaker 2:

That's what it's for Help a child read Do a ligno.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

The most recent I've read is Dauntedon.

Speaker 2:

That's the one I'm currently reading right now, and then the one that's my favorite is Chainsaw man, I mean right now. And then the one that I that's my favorite is chainsaw man. I mean, I have chainsaw man stuff all over this office. I have a chainsaw man tattoo, so that's the one that I I like the most. Um, this is a really cool. I'll let eric go in a second, but this is a really cool app. I actually downloaded it while you were talking about it, because it just does remind me of the shonen jump app, eric, which I'm sure you were going to bring up. So I have realized I am I do like with manga specifically having a physical copy. I will read it more if I have a physical copy in my hand than I will digitally, but this is really cool. Like I said, I downloaded this as you brought it up. But, yeah, eric, what's yours as you look back at your library there? Yeah, it's tough.

Speaker 4:

The library back there there is. They're all up there. Okay, yeah, there's a ton of volume ones, honestly. There's a ton of volume ones, honestly. There's a couple. There's a lot of really good ones. What have I read recently? So I recently had gotten into Dondedon as well. There was also one I had started that I need to pick back up, called Kagerou Bachi.

Speaker 3:

Oh, I am reading that on the Shonen Jump app.

Speaker 4:

And that is a fire series, it's it's cool, it's gonna when it when they animate that that shit's gonna be sick like I like. I like the, the whole deal with the sword and everything like it's very it's very demon slayer coded as far as what I think it's gonna look like eric.

Speaker 3:

I like being that uh, grouchy uppity snob, that's like. I read it. I already read it. I don't already read it. I don't need to watch it. I don't need to watch it. Honestly, it's not a big deal in the manga, by the way.

Speaker 4:

I will say I did enjoy my read through of Kaiju number eight, so bring in that back full circle. But yeah, no, like I've definitely. If I got to pick one, it's one of my favorite anime as well, which is Kageyama. Love is War, so that's one that's up there, rom-com. Yeah, and it's also one of my favorite anime.

Speaker 3:

Take that, Phil Eric, you have answers I have.

Speaker 4:

I was ready.

Speaker 3:

Locked and loaded.

Speaker 1:

You just picked titles that can be found on Netflix right now Listen.

Speaker 2:

What Botter just said, though it is nice knowing, like because you know the the chainsaw man movie comes out soon and I'm like I know already.

Speaker 3:

I already know what happens you bitches and chainsaw man is a good read too, and you know I was outstanding too, so yeah, yeah, the approach to manga too is is interesting when you look at some of these companies, because they don't make money off of the they, they don't make a lot of money off of the manga, it themselves. When it becomes an anime and it becomes, you know, when there's merch involved and those movies, that's when it becomes, you know, profitable for them. The manga, the, the uh, anthologies, that you'll find the stories, you'll find a Shonen Jumps or Young Magazine like that is them kind of like testing the waters, like hey, if this is a big enough, if there's a big enough audience here, then we move it to Tonkoban. If the Tonkoban sell well, well, clearly we got to get this shit animated. So it's interesting to see I think they call it a reverse waterfall or a waterfall effect when you look at the manga anime pipeline, you know they start very small, you know. That's why Shonen Jump, the magazines were, like, you know, very cheap paper, like the newspaper print in this black and white. They're not trying to spend a bunch of money on these stories, they're trying to see which ones really kept, which ones are worth the investment.

Speaker 3:

So I've been really been in this mindset of understanding manga and I think it goes back to what we talked about with the K-pop Demon Hunters, is that we're seeing the accessibility for these things, the transparency it's here, it's in full force. Crunchyroll, I think, had a insane surge during, like the lockdown. Manga really blew up. Anime, I should say, really blew up. And then hearing cory say, like you know, they're not willing to spend, like you know, the very bare minimum or you know, on this stuff, it's interesting to see what they will and what they won't, and I think manga is still like an uphill battle for it to be very, totally accessible. Um, which maybe brings me to my next topic, unless we wanted to spin the wheel for just one no, no, no.

Speaker 2:

I was gonna let you transition to your next one anyway, because, yeah, no, you're gonna go to, you're gonna go to your double header.

Speaker 4:

I will say though that uh, if you guys were interested, it's getting even crazier with crunchyroll. I'll save us the did not. Uh, that didn't make the cut. Did you know that you could watch Crunchyroll on Delta Airlines now? Whoa. So, it's like a thing that they offer.

Speaker 1:

Do you need a subscription or?

Speaker 4:

No, it'll just be on, it'll be available.

Speaker 1:

And they'll be like a catalog of anime.

Speaker 2:

I just can't wait for the stewardess to walk up while I'm watching the first episode of Dantanon. And how, yeah, yeah, really quick, I think.

Speaker 3:

I figured out the perfect Weight Watchers field trip. We all book a flight. Delta flight from Jax to Tampa, just so we can watch Crunchyroll on the plane while eating our BJ.

Speaker 2:

I love it I am taking that flight from Tampa to Jacksonville wait, really that's such a waste of gas. Listen we're not going to get into generational trouble.

Speaker 3:

Okay, okay. Even Taylor Swift just heard that and she's like, wow, yeah, I know what a waste of gas, what a waste of fuel.

Speaker 2:

But I've taken that flight and I remember because I had a regular iPod and I think I would listen to two songs and they're like everyone.

Speaker 3:

Please, uh, turn off all electronic devices as we descend into Jacksonville. I've had longer sneezes in that flight.

Speaker 3:

Okay, moving on, and in a similar uh vein, my next topic also deals with, uh digital comics, and that is the announcement that webtoon and disney have teamed up to reformat and offer original stories based on disney comic property. So we're talking about, obviously, their marvel stuff. You know disney owns marvel. It has the star wars property. It also has, uh, some 20th century properties as well. So what this means is and I'm assuming we all know what webtoons is right, it's like one of the largest. I think it's safe to say it is the largest uh digital comic subscription uh platform or service. Um, it started out. I forget when it started out, but it started out mainly catered to hosting like uh, manga as well as manhwa, which is like the korean version of manga, but it quickly obviously opened up. They've done partnerships uh webtoons has with dc comics. Uh, they had the very popular wayne family adventures hosted on webtoons, which was like stupid successful. But they've also worked with dark horse. They've done uh archie comics as well in idw. Well, it's now disney's turn, pardon me, to get in on the fun. So they recently announced a partnership where Webtoons will be taking certain existing comic titles, such as Spider-Man, some Avengers comics from 2012, some Star Wars comics, some Alien comics, some old Disney comics, reformatting them into the vertical scroll as well, as they'll be working on making original stories for the uh format and the platform as well.

Speaker 3:

Now marvel, or disney, which is marvel in this case has their own uh digital comic app. It's called the marvel unlimited app. That's been around for a long time. I've been a annual subscriber for like years now and I've slowly watched them offer uh vertical comics and they call it uh. The marvel infinite comics is what they call their vertical scroll comics on that app and I safe to say it's because of the success and popularity of webtoons that they copied that idea. Well, now marvel is just like. Well, disney is like hey, let's host some of our stuff on webtoons because they've already got a lot of subscribers. It it's popular as hell. You know, we can cater and maybe grab the attention of folks that are going on there for other stuff. So it's showing me that that Disney and Marvel are trying to be where, you know, people who are reading comics are, and in this case, like I said, manga is huge, is huge, you know. I think american comics is is in an interesting point where they need to bring in new blood. They need to bring in fresh blood. They need to bring in a younger audience and most of the younger audience is into anime and manga, so they need to be on webtoons to have that presence there.

Speaker 3:

Um, and I gotta say, as someone that's been reading, uh, digital comics for a time, the vertical scroll takes some getting used to, especially when you're reading something like a traditional Spider-Man comic that's been reformatted. So it's interesting to see how they tackle, like the panels, the gutters and like these things. These, you know, just the format and structure of a traditional comic now being converted for, you know, vertical scrolling. But it makes a lot of sense, right, like how many of us? You know we, all of us spend so much time on our phones it, you know it's interesting for them to offer that as an additional form of entertainment that now you can, you know, read a comic book the same way that you would scroll social media. So, yeah, so I guess my question for the group is what is your familiarity or interaction with webtoons? Have you guys ever gone on webtoon or do you guys have a series that you followed?

Speaker 2:

I have not, but you know obviously very familiar with what they are and their popularity. And I will say, just looking at the article that you had brought up here, this artwork for this, as old as time, uh, twisted tail, this beauty and the beast One, looks really cool, eric. I don't know if you have the article, but it reminds me of the Alice in Wonderland game From back in the day. But that, I mean, this is something that like, like I said, just alternate stories Within these universes Is also something that very much Interests me. So, yeah, not too much I haven't read any myself but certainly, again, familiarity with their, with their rise in popularity, eric, what about you?

Speaker 4:

yeah, I was. I was just checking and correct anybody. Correct me if I'm wrong, if you know these properties, but I'm pretty sure both of these came from webtoons. So the first one is tower of god. Um, I do believe that is accurate and they did a crunchyyroll adaptation of that. And then, I believe, isn't solo leveling also a big webtoon thing?

Speaker 3:

Am I wrong?

Speaker 4:

Does that count? It might.

Speaker 1:

I know Lore Olympus and it's not from this site, but One Punch man. Originally started as a webtoon at least. Oh, really Did not know that. I know Lore Olympus is like.

Speaker 3:

Lore, olympus is the big one that comes to mind. How to Hide the Emperor's Child is another big one. I mean there's been a lot of big franchises that have come out of Webtoon. I mean I'm on the website right now and I see the banner for Disney, marvel and Star Wars. It in Star Wars it says coming soon to Webtoon. So it's interesting to see them promote that. But I mean you look at some of these views. I'm on the popular series by category To womb. It no longer concerns. I've never read it but it's got 44 million views. Another one here has 24 million views, like Webtoons has. It's interesting to see a company like Global Comics embrace manga by bringing in Kodansha and then a company like you know established company like DC and Marvel you know to be like hey, we got to get with this. You know webtoons thing. You know where the manga is at. So very interesting to see some of these shifts. You know follow like this the new digital trend.

Speaker 2:

But you are right, Eric Solo leveling is a South Korean webtoon.

Speaker 3:

Oh, it did Okay, there you go Okay.

Speaker 1:

Cool. Yeah, I'm seeing Cyberpunk and, oh my God, the Last Ronin on here, the TMNT, the Last Ronin.

Speaker 3:

Exactly Another hit series that came out of IDW in 2020. Huge, I mean. It was like one of the best-selling comics of that year. Now it's got a vertical edition, a version of it, I think you know, and at the same time, it's like it doesn't. If you're someone that likes the traditional comic book format, it's always going to be there. It came out as that first, but this is a an additional way to like bring in some new blood. You know folks that are already on here that might want to. You know I've always wanted to check out tmnt here. It is on webtoon in a format that you know I read all my other stuff in, so why not?

Speaker 1:

and to answer your question. I, uh, I never I've not been on webtoons, but I'm aware of it solely because of lore olympus. I have a friend who's obsessed with it and I got to see some of the art and it's like, oh wow, this is genuinely good. And what really surprised me was when I was at barnes and noble, when I worked there, like 2021, 2022, um, we had two hardback collections, with a third one on the way. I, I think the third one released right around the time that store closed, but it was. It was really cool to see, uh, again kind of coming from like the, the manga thing where it's like, okay, I'm just going to post this, um, and it's not.

Speaker 1:

I was always kind of against webtoon stuff. Um, I, I think I have been on this site, like back at its inception. Uh, inception and a lot of the stuff on there was just not good. I probably browsed it for like five minutes and left. But, like, lore Olympus is really good. There are people out there who have really good products and they're just waiting to get picked up and like right now you can only find nine chapters of Lore Olympus and that is probably because they have a deal with someone else and had to like remove it from Webtoons or something.

Speaker 3:

I think Webtoons also has a system for like paywall too, where it's like hey, we'll give you a free but the rest you got to get signed up.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, that's how they get you. That's how they get you.

Speaker 3:

And those are my digital comics book stories.

Speaker 4:

Hell, yeah. Well, we wouldn't expect anything less from you, Botter, and you brought it to the table, Phil. I believe this is the part of the episode where we didn't make the cut Botter. I just want to ask were those?

Speaker 1:

the only stories you had.

Speaker 4:

Did you have any other quick hitters to throw out there?

Speaker 3:

No, nothing that is quick, I did. I'm looking at my show notes, my outline, because that's how much I respect you guys. I came through with an outline, that's right, we don't even do that.

Speaker 2:

We ain't going to give you one, I love that you both said it at the same time.

Speaker 3:

I'm just going to say the headline and we don't have to dwell on them anymore.

Speaker 3:

I was for what didn't make the cut. Marvel Comics announces Predator Badlands sequel comic. So if you've been watching Predator Badlands, they've got a sequel comic, which I'm noticing more sequel comics coming out for things like for franchises. I think there is a Game of Thrones without a video game. I think there was a video game. Was it a game of thrones or is that a video game? I think there was a video game, but more and more uh tv series are utilizing the medium of comics to tell you know, like that side story or a prequel that they don't have. You know that they couldn't fit within the show itself. So, uh, predator badlands is doing that, with marvel releasing a prequel comic, another one that didn't make the cut.

Speaker 3:

I was going to talk about the upcoming marvel and dc crossover that's taking place uh, the next couple months. Uh, marvel is putting out deadpool meets, uh, batman, and then dc is putting out the inverse batman meets deadpool and within each one of these issues there's a bunch of uh mini stories within. Said, I think it's gonna be like a 60 or 70 page comic that the main story is batman and deadpool crossover, and then you've got crossovers of like green arrow and daredevil, um, uh, wonder woman and, uh, captain marvel. So both companies are coming correct. This is like the first time that both publishers have done a an official crossover in since 20 or was it 2004? It was like it's been a long time, like 20 years, so it's a very big deal. These books are going to sell like massive. I mean they're, they're gonna, they're going to sell huge. I was going to talk a little bit about those backup stories didn't make the cut and I think that's all I had, just those two uh stories.

Speaker 4:

Nice nice, I know those are. Uh, we're. We're going to be covering prey here on the podcast in november leading up Badlands, so we're really excited about that. It's cool to see that it's getting a sequel comic. But yeah, the Batman and Deadpool stuff is super cool. I think there's such a future ahead of us when it comes to film, because I think down the road at some point we are going to get something. I don't know how it'll happen, phil, but I can see it now that James Gunn is leading the cavalry over there has that marvel relationship like we're closer than ever in my opinion of the reality of a marvel dc I, I totally see you next year when doomsday shits the bed and they panic you mean?

Speaker 3:

you mean you mean panic and just get desperate for money. Yeah, at some point they're gonna have to give us what we want. Honestly, I'm shocked.

Speaker 4:

I'm genuinely shocked. They have not paid a ransom for spider-man yet like it's. It's honestly kind of crazy. I think it'll probably happen after, beyond, the spider-verse comes out, which means it'll never happen. Which means that, yeah, because that's never that is uh never coming out.

Speaker 2:

Cory, did you have any uh any stories that uh were on the cutting room floor?

Speaker 1:

yeah, so the the super short one, uh, was the announcement of the godzilla minus one sequel, um, that could be out as early as next year, which?

Speaker 2:

is insane. Yeah, they put out. It's like five seasons of stranger things in 20 years and we going to get two minus one movies.

Speaker 1:

But I feel like they knew, like the director knew where he wanted to take things. So as soon as they were like, yeah, sure, go ahead and do it, he's like, all right, I'm already halfway there. But I'm excited for that because I really want to know where they're going to go. The end of the movie like as know guy who's obsessed with the franchise the very end of that movie is like, okay, where are we taking this? I have so many ideas in mind and I want all of them to be blown out of the water. But the other thing which you can also go enjoy right now is alien earth. It's very fun. It's not, um, I don't know it's. It's not as epic as like Alien, aliens, romulus, because it is a serialized show. It's a little bit more toned down, but it's. There's still plenty of islands, there's still a lot of story that's being developed and right now that Sid the Sloth meme is driving a massive wedge in Phil and I's friendship, because every time I talk about Alien he just posts that again and again.

Speaker 4:

Phil, can you go through the trouble on the video version of this episode of slowly fading? I usually don't do any editing for this episode, but I will.

Speaker 3:

Can you mark it?

Speaker 1:

Actually every time.

Speaker 2:

Corey talks this entire episode. I'm going to just fade it in. Just have.

Speaker 4:

Sid. This locked in the background.

Speaker 1:

It'll just be in like different pockets, but yeah. So tonight, like right now, once we're done with this, I'll probably go fire up episode four. It's going to be eight episodes total but only taking seven weeks to release because they did a one and two drop on the first night.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so, I want to know where it goes. I'm I love the alien franchise, you know it's good and it's bad. I'll take all of it. But this was really cool because I don't know, I've literally no one has ever been able to sit down weekly and watch an alien thing. You get one weekend and that's it. It is kind of fun to have that little bit of camaraderie in some discords where it's like oh hey, did you see it? What did you think about it? I think that's something that's fun to be able do, uh, and just get kind of a different take. You know it feels safer than having released another movie so soon after romulus, you know.

Speaker 4:

so yeah, and romulus was good as somebody who doesn't. Who's not the biggest alien fan or predator fan? I'm finding myself, like in 2025, being excited for what the future holds for both of those franchises and you did.

Speaker 1:

You say that you hadn't seen Prey because you're covering it.

Speaker 4:

So I have seen it, but this year. So I saw it and I needed to check it out to see if Phil would end up either enjoying it A and B. Can he watch it? Because, there's typically stuff that he can't watch, so I had to vet it and it passed the vetting. It was very good. It was very good. It was very good. Uh, the fact that it didn't get a theatrical release possibly a crime.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's a crime. Yeah, yeah, I would have gone, cause I, I think I watched it. It was either two days in a row that's another one that I watched like within a week, uh, but I might have watched on the night that it released, and so I watched it at like four in the morning and Brenda was mad because she's like you know, I want to watch it. I was like, literally, it's I'm I'm exhausted, but I can't sleep. I got to do something, uh, and so I think I watched it. Yeah, I think I watched it twice within a 24 hour period, maybe even 12 hours, and it was worth it both times, and I might have watched it a third time for a podcast. So, yeah, praise, really good I'm. I'm hyped for where they're going with that stuff and, to rep short box once again, I can just press a button anyways please, yeah, the you the heroes con panel.

Speaker 1:

Um, one of the guys was saying he's like everything about the predator and aliens in the marvel universe is gold and I need to check that out. So it's.

Speaker 3:

It's a really good couple of years for like alien and predator yeah, highly recommend the uh, there is a predator and spider-man, predator versus spider-Man or Spider-Man versus Spider-Man, one of those comic series that came out this year and I think there's already a sequel. I think it's like Kraven the Hunter and Predator, but very good, very graphic. All right, I will say Marvel very quickly. Marvel, or Disney, now owns 20th Century Fox. One of the things they did was decide, hey, we're going to put out comics with these properties, but they're going to be branded 20th Century, so there's like a banner or the logo on said comic and they are not shy about showing you all the gore and bloodshed. Okay, so that Spider-Man versus Predator comic is intense.

Speaker 2:

I saw Alien versus Predator 2004. Isn't that?

Speaker 4:

No, no, no, that's not, although we're very close to that happening.

Speaker 2:

They're friends. That's what I'm saying. I've already seen it they're buddies.

Speaker 4:

I don't think it's as canon as the Godzilla stories we were talking about earlier. Phil, do you have any? Didn't make the cut, and then I will go through our Discord roundup.

Speaker 2:

I have two really quick ones. The first one cory and I actually talked about this the other day is I was gonna go see primitive war over the weekend. I was pretty excited about it. You know, a new dinosaur movie was released by, uh, an independent studio, um, it only had a very limited release, um, and and then I found it over the weekend. They straight up like stole assets from the Jurassic series, used a lot of AI, and I'm just like, well, there goes that dream, like I felt like I felt like that went out the window. So yeah, just for those of you that maybe haven't seen it yet, I think about renting it. I was pretty disappointed to hear that, but you know, I honestly wasn't too surprised, unfortunately. But the other story that I really grappled with that I thought I might talk about was Lego Batman Legacy of the Dark Knight being announced, which is going to be an open-world Lego game with the Dark Knight, batman, with the Arkham series, combat in it and it looks.

Speaker 1:

I was just going to ask if they were basing it on Arkham.

Speaker 2:

Incredible. I really feel like the Lego games peaked back in the Star Wars, anna Jones, batman days in the early 2000s and this looks like a return to form. So very excited to jump back into the Lego games. Man. I will preorder this as a 36-year-old man.

Speaker 3:

I can't wait for that. Look, I you know, like thinking about the Arkham games. It's just how violent those games are, like just how much of an ass whooping you could put on like just the lowest common denominator thug. Sending a man to the 50 hit combo, sending him to the hospital, but it's like well, now we're talking about Legos. And it's like well, does that mean like the handcuffs come off, because there's like you know, you're not showing blood.

Speaker 2:

Imagine like a bunch of Legos just breaking off, just pieces all over the place.

Speaker 3:

Really quick, phil. I heard that the map in that Lego Batman game coming out is supposed to be even bigger than the Arkham City map which was already a colossal game.

Speaker 2:

I'll tell you what If they animate the Bane plane scene, I'll scream from the rooftops. That'd be legit.

Speaker 3:

Hey, really quick, can I say Phil and Eric, I was a little disappointed today. I went on the Wayfarer podcast page and I was just trying to get caught up. I was like, oh, what have they covered? I know you guys cover video games a lot and maybe it's because I'm playing this particular game and you guys aren't covering the game I'm playing that I'm like, come on, guys, but I was surprised that you guys haven't covered. Have you guys covered or talked about Claire Obscure, expedition 33?

Speaker 4:

Well, it's so funny that you mentioned that it's actually going to be next, next month's episode.

Speaker 2:

I can't wait. Okay, deal, and as a Weight Watcher, you will get it early, you will.

Speaker 4:

So Patreon has been very well represented here, but we really wanted to do it quicker. It's a game that just like it's long, like it's a long long game and you kind of got to take your time with it.

Speaker 2:

And I suck at it. Phil's really bad at it.

Speaker 4:

Phil will likely not beat it by the time we record, but I have already beaten it so I'm very excited to get into it. Okay, but I'm hoping he'll get somewhere into the middle of Act 2, and I think at that point he can pretty much say everything he needs to say about the game.

Speaker 3:

That's not story related. Deal, deal, I can't wait. All right, I am so glad I brought that up. I'm very excited. I think I'm going to go eat a box of donuts as a Weight Watcher. Is that how it works?

Speaker 4:

Yes it is If you don't gain 10 pounds a month then, it's not working. Lizzie's on the way so don't worry.

Speaker 3:

We're watching our weight go up on this Patreon, right? Because we we eating good. That's what it is. I think there's so much you guys can do with this. Like, hey, we're eating good, all right.

Speaker 2:

We're watching our weight go up. Eric, what about you? Or are you just going to go straight into the Discord roundup, because we need to get to our game? Yeah, we need to get to our game.

Speaker 4:

I mixed it yeah, I know, I mixed mine into the Discord roundup. No-transcript, you do not have to speak to each one Whatever comes to mind, make a note, say this one word and then just bullet point it for me. I'm going to run it down, though, so I may be talking for the next three minutes. A couple quick hitters. These are really pointless stories. Robert Pattinson and Matt Reeves the Batman Part 2, apparently, will finally begin filming in the spring. According to Warner Brothers Discovery Lie Shameik Moore reveals he has begun voice recording for Beyond the Spider-Verse lie Spider-Man, a Spider-Punk animated feature.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, well, those ones were bad. We bring those up it feels like every three months and we find out. It just keeps getting delayed.

Speaker 3:

It's definitely a Nothing Burger headline, for sure.

Speaker 4:

Nothing Burger Spider-Punk animated feature though uh, daniel kaluuya will be in development at sony so we'll never see it, but deadline had learned that and shared it with shrek 5 talking about delays was delayed. It will release in 2027 disappointing. Michael bay is apparently in talks to return for another transformers. Nobody asked for that Exactly. Stop it Not one person asked for it?

Speaker 1:

What was the inspiration for the balls? The balls.

Speaker 4:

He's going to bring them back. He's going to bring them back. Still, in movie news, zack Crager is going to be directing his Resident Evil film. Apparently, it's going to be an original story in the universe and not include characters from the games. Do with that as you will. And on the movie side of things, uh, there is a film that's going to be coming out called rental family, a trailer with brendan fraser. Uh, the film follows a struggling actor who is hired as a token american guy for a japanese rental family company in tokyo. Looks both hilarious and probably devastating.

Speaker 1:

I'm excited about that.

Speaker 3:

Holy shit, he's got more. He's got TV news.

Speaker 4:

That was just movies. On the TV side, hulu is officially ending. Disney is announcing a full integration with Disney+. Apple TV Plus is increasing to $12.99 a month. I know Phil is devastated about that. The Office spinoff the Paper is going to pivot to a binge drop release. All 10 episodes are dropping September 4th.

Speaker 1:

Will it be as good? They know it sucks.

Speaker 4:

They know it's probably not, but September 4th we'll find out. And Nicolas Cage talks to Star in the fifth season of HBO's True Detective.

Speaker 3:

I've never watched that series, but I can only imagine that show is still airing.

Speaker 4:

Wow, I can only imagine how left it's gone, because a Nick Cage season is going to be wild. And then, on the TV side of things, before our wrap-up is over with a couple gaming news, florence Pugh was apparently in talks to play Abby in the Last of Us, hbo, but turned it down due to scheduling conflicts. So if you could hate, the second season more I didn't hate it.

Speaker 3:

I didn't hate it, but it was pretty bad.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, it was pretty bad.

Speaker 4:

Florence Pugh. It would have been nuts Would have been nuts. But final news Team Cherry announced the release date for hollow night silk song. It's real, ladies and gentlemen. September 4th as well, I believe. Uh, it's going to be out. Red octane games, the rhythm game studio led by veterans who helped scale guitar hero and DJ hero. Apparently, a new rhythm game is going to be announced later this year. Super exciting If you're a fan of that genre of gaming. And then the last, last last thing for the discord roundup. We had a lot of fun talking about the disaster that happened in tampa, florida and national gaming expo, where one of the uh guests, the g uh, one of the gta guests that was there for the con, said uh, they put the con in comic-con.

Speaker 1:

So if you missed that story, pretty wild, but uh yeah it was a fire fest of conventions the fire fest of conventions is the way I would describe it, that's our discord roundup.

Speaker 4:

So, botter, is there any pick one, pick or pick two, whatever you want, anything you want to say eric, we've been recording so long.

Speaker 3:

My light backlight just went out.

Speaker 4:

I'm like what the hell?

Speaker 3:

happened. No, eric, you did such a great. The biggest takeaway you know, uh every, you know godzilla news aside, dc james gun news aside, uh, eric, the money you paid for that new mic well worth it. You sound goddamn great, bro. Thank you, I think you nailed it all, man dude, I've been playing with this fucking roadcaster.

Speaker 4:

You sound good how I recorded. Thank you, I appreciate it. I think you nailed it all. Man, dude, I've been playing with this fucking Rodecaster. You sound good. I don't know how I recorded without it, are you sure?

Speaker 3:

it's Phil that's doing the voice acting, because I don't think you might get a future in it.

Speaker 4:

I'm going to take your job, Phil.

Speaker 2:

I tried to get him to take an acting class with me.

Speaker 3:

He didn't to it Perfection.

Speaker 4:

Oh yeah, hell yeah, corey, anything to add? Phil, anything to add?

Speaker 1:

Brendan Fraser can do no wrong.

Speaker 2:

Keep Shameik Moore away from Haley Steinfeld. Yeah, the only other thing I guarantee you people guessed the plot for Shrek 5, and that's why they push it back. I 100% guarantee you people because people were online talking about because Zendaya is playing the daughter and like, oh, zendaya wants to go off and be this independent person and Shrek's gonna be like no, I don't do, don't, don't go do this donkey and all that shit and like, and they just guessed what was gonna happen and they had to scrap it and redo it. So yeah, crazy.

Speaker 4:

All right, phil, this is your turn to take over we have a fun game to end the episode. Let's's we recapped August. It was a busy month.

Speaker 2:

Do it.

Speaker 4:

But we are now here.

Speaker 2:

So, Phil, tell us what to do yeah, so you'll need your phones for this. That'll be the easiest way for you guys to play.

Speaker 1:

I am going to look over this side Because my phone is my webcam.

Speaker 2:

Oh, okay, you can play on your computer as well. What's the pin number? Yeah, that way you don't have to swap anything. Yeah, you can also play on the computer. Let me start. Yeah, you can just go to kahootit and there is your pin. Mute the music, although we are going to be here another half hour because eric is going to take forever to pick his character, so oh's not true?

Speaker 4:

I'll make it quick.

Speaker 2:

Alright, we'll see. Eric's been a couple months since we played Kahoot. I can't remember if he won the last game or not. Who was the?

Speaker 4:

last I think it's been a minute. Who?

Speaker 2:

was the last guest. We played Kahoot with Nice.

Speaker 4:

Who looks most like a glizzy None of them.

Speaker 2:

For the audience that is audio only. Burrito Boy, nice. For the audience that is audio only. This is the part where we recommend you go to our YouTube page and watch Orpeege Suddenly Canadian.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, the YouTube page Go to.

Speaker 2:

Orpeege and check that out, but I will and watch or peach, suddenly canadian, yeah, the youtube. Go to rp, go to rpg. You know um and check that out, but I will do my best to um narrate what is uh going on here. So, all right, they don't have as many emojis as before.

Speaker 1:

Where's the 18 pages? That was feels like they shortened it.

Speaker 2:

You haven't played kahoot cory. Are you thinking about Jeopardy?

Speaker 1:

Jeopardy, had all the options. Okay, I'm thinking yeah, because every time I guess the two times I was on was Jeopardy.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but all right, we have BJ Glizzy, dorito Boy and Weight Watcher, so let's do it here, folks. So there will be a couple of different types of questions here. There will be your standard trivia. There will be a couple of different types of questions here. There will be your standard trivia. There will be a pin the answer, where you pin an answer on a picture. There will be a type out a question. There will be listing things in order so you'll see when they come up, but let's get started. A Kahoot, by the way, for a podcast. Look at that presentation. Nice, what did I miss? August 2025. Let's see how many spelling errors I made in this.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, very excited.

Speaker 2:

All right. First question which hip-hop artist has the most Grammy wins? Is it Andre 3000, eminem, jay-z or Kendrick Lamar I? Didn't like that answer Remember you get more points, the quicker you answer oh, the one time I don't know.

Speaker 3:

Oh, my God, I love Eminem Jay-Z.

Speaker 4:

Eminem, I think, was fourth or fifth, jay-z is first. You got that wrong.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, the one time I decided not to go, that's embarrassing.

Speaker 2:

I did that question for you.

Speaker 1:

For you.

Speaker 3:

You know, and I had a moment where I was like you don't think that they maybe made this question for you this question for you.

Speaker 4:

And then the Weight Watcher was like I don't think that's actually Bonner, that's Looch.

Speaker 1:

Damn.

Speaker 3:

Then you want to give me 80 points, bj Guzzi in the lead 937 points.

Speaker 2:

Burrito Boy 883.

Speaker 3:

And Weight.

Speaker 2:

Watcher with zero. Let's get to the next question. True, or?

Speaker 4:

false.

Speaker 2:

Tiny Kong's actual name is Succo, true or false? Tiny Kong's actual name is Suko true or false?

Speaker 4:

Tiny Kong's actual name is Suko yeah, I did not know, I went with blue because of my favorite colors like. I said and Eric.

Speaker 2:

Like we were saying earlier, big monkey use little monkey as a weapon.

Speaker 4:

I remember.

Speaker 1:

I saw the movie. I saw the movie. It's like nunchucks.

Speaker 2:

All right, I'm coming little boy moves into the lead weight watcher. Uh gets up there and bj glizzy moves to last first, to worst eric. Then not great, not great yeah, that's tough. That was tough. Next question type out the answer. What movie is this? You'll see a picture slowly reveal itself. What movie is this? Remember more points you get for the faster answer oh, it depends on, I guess, will you accept, I completely put in multiple options as far as spelling oh yeah I completely went a different direction and I ran out of space to type I wrote minus one.

Speaker 2:

Oh, okay Well you have to put at least Godzilla.

Speaker 1:

Yes, come on, godzilla, you have to put minus one the titular character.

Speaker 2:

I even gave people an option to just type out negative and the number one and you just put minus one.

Speaker 3:

You allowed negative one Get out of here, all right, whatever. Yeah, negative one get out of it all right, whatever yeah, I feel like you gotta put godzilla.

Speaker 1:

I was typing out pirates of the caribbean. Yeah, we're on the same. Okay, cool, because by the time it stopped me in the middle of caribbean.

Speaker 4:

I then realized I had fucked up.

Speaker 3:

This may be the last month I'm gonna wait.

Speaker 2:

Wait, what this? Little boy is on a three-answer streak and it has a lead 27-27. Bj Glizzy moves back into. If you just change out the DJ Glizzy, it's an awesome DJ name. I just want to point that out.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, no, for sure, All right. Next question Puzzle Place these Jacksonville malls in order of opening date.

Speaker 2:

Of course, four malls in Jacksonville being the Avenues, orange Park, regency Square and St John's Town Center. Try and place them in the order of opening date.

Speaker 3:

This is very hard.

Speaker 4:

We'll see why the fuck would I remember your mother's birthday?

Speaker 2:

I will say puzzle is the one that people usually never get right. I think we've had very few people do puzzle correctly.

Speaker 1:

I mean, this is a great question. Hey, two people got it right.

Speaker 4:

Oh shit, that was crazy, let's go. That was a crazy guess I just threw it up.

Speaker 1:

I was like my second and third were all wrong.

Speaker 3:

Just because I know that we got some Jax listeners, the correct answer Place these Jax listeners. The correct answer Place these Jaxville malls on order. Opening date Regency Square Mall, yep, orange Park Mall, the Avenues and St John's House Center being the newest, most newest.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, wow, regency Square Mall opened in the 70s, which I did not know. My heart, like legit, skipped Wow, it shows. Yeah, it definitely shows. That's crazy.

Speaker 3:

I couldn't remember to put Godzilla in his own movie title but I apparently know you got the malls right.

Speaker 4:

You didn't get the hip hop question, you got the mall, question I bring back malls.

Speaker 2:

I say let's revitalize the mall, I miss it.

Speaker 3:

I'm going to go to the Avenues Mall this weekend in your honor there you go, sounds good, hell yeah.

Speaker 4:

You walk into that hot topic.

Speaker 3:

Apparently not enough. Rito boy Didn't get it right.

Speaker 2:

Everybody's catching up a little bit. Let's get to the next question. Pin your answer, eric. Damn it. Which one of these characters from Ted Lasso is named Nate? Why the fuck? Oh my God, which one of these characters is named?

Speaker 4:

Nate, oh, I know that. I know that one because I've watched an eighth of Ted Lasso on TikTok. An eighth of it? Wait, no, I think I messed up, that's not Nate.

Speaker 3:

For sure. Oh, it is Nate. Hell yeah, you got it right. Come on baby. Your boy knows this there you go I think it was kind of weird that they didn't just have you move the pen instead of the whole image. That's a little weird, yeah that was a weird mechanic.

Speaker 2:

I've never been the other side. What do they do? You gotta move the whole image toward the pen.

Speaker 3:

Why not just drop the pen?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, when you click it, the image shifts and centers back on the pen. That's strange.

Speaker 3:

Okay, interesting, Alright what two of you got it right.

Speaker 2:

We got some movement at the top. Oh Glizzy, BJ Glizzy in the building.

Speaker 3:

This is definitely a portion of the show you gotta watch visual.

Speaker 2:

I mean, this is a very chaotic audio listen right here. We warned him. We warned him.

Speaker 1:

Who is BJ?

Speaker 3:

Glizzy.

Speaker 1:

Alright, Slider.

Speaker 2:

As of today, k-pop Demon Hunters has been viewed more than blank times. As of today, it is somewhere between 200 and 250 million.

Speaker 3:

So how many?

Speaker 2:

times has K-pop Demon Hunters been viewed on Netflix. As of today, you'll get points for being close.

Speaker 4:

We're not quite All right, it hasn't been?

Speaker 2:

Who said 237?

Speaker 3:

It's 236, so you'll still get points. You'll get points for being close.

Speaker 2:

Your boy is Throwing from the crazy it is now officially the most streamed Film of all time, passing Red Notice.

Speaker 4:

It did beat it out today, so 236 million you got to do it.

Speaker 2:

There you go tonight. Yeah, we'll come over right after this oh damn, little boy, baby spotter coming up bj glizzy and weight watcher only separated by 20 points. This is the closest we've seen in a long time yeah, I am.

Speaker 3:

I'm currently being fueled by my hunger because I'm ready for dinner. And then also coming off that Jacksonville history. I cannot.

Speaker 1:

Look, that was insanely impressive that I got that correct, that was a high.

Speaker 3:

I'm kind of blown away. I missed a Jay-Z question, all right.

Speaker 2:

Next question we have a quiz who has the most AEW Women's World Championship reigns.

Speaker 1:

Is it Toni Storm Britt?

Speaker 2:

Baker, thunder Rosa or Hikaru Shida, who is the most women? Aew Women's World Championship Reigns.

Speaker 3:

What the fuck? I love how Kahoot will call you out too. It'll be like hey, stupid.

Speaker 4:

Oh, it is.

Speaker 2:

Tony Storm. Tony Storm has four reigns. Britt Baker, eric only has one.

Speaker 3:

Hikaru Shida has three.

Speaker 4:

I didn't feel good about Britt Baker but, I, figured she won it at least twice so I was like maybe she's tied.

Speaker 2:

She just had a really long run, is what it was.

Speaker 4:

I should have won with Tony. I just like the alliteration Britt Baker, britt Baker wrestler and actual dentist in real life and now just dentist don't know where she is.

Speaker 2:

Alright, no movement there on that one. Let's get to. True or false, shazam Theory of the Gods has the lowest box office gross of the DCEU, true or false. I always forget that Rachel Zegler is in this.

Speaker 1:

I don't know for sure.

Speaker 2:

Oh, I got it right, it is Wonder Woman 84. Really as it should be, that's right because it came out during covid, if I'm not mistaken. Yeah, yeah, some people rented a theater to watch some people maybe allegedly 20 and eric, we don't know.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, we definitely did not do that on some short box history shit I I won't ever forget. Um, we did a movie review of that and I was certain all four of us myself, ed, Ed, Cesar and Ashley when we were all still recording together that it was going to be unanimous. That movie sucked. Yeah, Boy, was I surprised.

Speaker 4:

It was an even split. I mean, ashley and Cesar went to bat for this movie Really, and I think it was the one time that I genuinely thought they might be fucking crazy.

Speaker 2:

Cesar is fucking crazy.

Speaker 1:

Eric and.

Speaker 2:

I disagree quite a bit.

Speaker 3:

We didn't disagree on this, on Wonder Woman anymore. I think even Pedro Pascal won't take questions about that movie on the red carpet.

Speaker 4:

He literally won't go clean shaven because of that movie anymore.

Speaker 3:

He's like, I will not do it. He's literally said it. Anyways, all right, everybody got that right.

Speaker 2:

And we still got a close one, bj Glizzy still at the top Weight Watcher in second. And Burrito Boy in third. But you know, just one question can change everything.

Speaker 4:

There's going to be a pin question in a moment and I'm going to lose control. Type your answer.

Speaker 2:

Who claimed the top spot on Billboard's 2023? List of the 50 greatest rappers of all time.

Speaker 1:

The top spot list of the 50 greatest rappers of all time?

Speaker 2:

Who was number one on Billboard's 2023 list of 50 greatest rappers? Of all time? Did this list a couple years ago? Who was number one? If I had to guess, I got one answer we got about 10 seconds left. I'm just guessing, let's see, did anybody get it right? No, nobody. All right, I'm just guessing, let's see. Let's see, did anybody get it right? No, Nobody got it right.

Speaker 3:

It was Jay-Z. Wait, is it because the spelling was weird?

Speaker 2:

Did you put Jay-Z?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, what did you put? What was the? I wrote Jay-Z. No, no, oh, I put fucking Kendrick Lamar, because I was like, well, it's 2023. Yeah, jesus Christ, can I just stick with this.

Speaker 4:

God, jay-z got you twice man, that's crazy.

Speaker 2:

Yep, yep, yep, I'm over thinking the two of you.

Speaker 3:

I wouldn't have guessed that I know, I know and I swear Phil, I was like they're giving you this Two chances.

Speaker 2:

I gave you this and I gave you the Ted Lasso question. I know Alright, no movement there on the scoreboard. We got five questions left. Let's get another quiz in here In Jaws, which character famously says you're gonna need a bigger boat? Is it Quint, brody, hooper or Vaughn who says you're gonna need a bigger boat?

Speaker 1:

in Jaws Hooper sounds like something else.

Speaker 2:

Brody. Nobody got it right there, it was Brody.

Speaker 1:

I haven't seen that in a minute.

Speaker 2:

Let's go this weekend.

Speaker 1:

I've seen the last. Jaws movie I saw was three.

Speaker 2:

I think we saw Jaws 3D Eric at the Ritz, remember we were watching.

Speaker 4:

Jaws At the Ritz? Yeah, we were watching it.

Speaker 3:

It was like a.

Speaker 1:

Saturday night Angry.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, we were watching it it was like a Saturday night, angry Orchard in hand.

Speaker 1:

We'll wait for it.

Speaker 2:

Lore Angry Orchard in hand enjoying Jaws 3D. All right, In your answer, which one of these fast?

Speaker 1:

and furious characters is named.

Speaker 4:

Lucas Nobody knows. Dude, I'm determined nobody fucking knows this. Which one of these fast?

Speaker 2:

and furious characters is named Lucas.

Speaker 3:

If I had to guess, I'm going to shoot my shot, lucas.

Speaker 2:

That's all we can do. This one's for.

Speaker 3:

Phil Come on, I hope someone gets this right. Who are we waiting on? Come on.

Speaker 4:

Please be Lucas. Okay, I'm trying so hard.

Speaker 3:

God damn it man. No one knows, who the? Hell, lucas is.

Speaker 2:

Should I? Does it tell me? Does it tell y'all who Lucas is? Oh, there you go.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, it should. Damn it, the other white guy.

Speaker 3:

Lucas is from Fast and the Furious Tokyo.

Speaker 4:

Drift. He is the protagonist.

Speaker 1:

Oh nice.

Speaker 2:

The other white guy the best movie in the series, by the way, Tokyo Drift.

Speaker 4:

I've gotten this right one time. He did One fucking time this year yeah.

Speaker 2:

Alright, no movement. Yeah, all right, no movement again. A couple questions left that worked out well though Puzzle Last three Place these characters in order of their MCU debut. The four characters listed are Shang-Chi, namor, kingo from the Eternals and Yelena Belova. Place them in order of their MCU debut.

Speaker 3:

This is actually very kind of difficult.

Speaker 4:

You went fucking phase four. I did. I was like like hell yeah, I got this. I started doing earlier characters. I was like not too easy.

Speaker 2:

I had written out like scarlet witch, dr strange, and I was like mac wait.

Speaker 3:

Oh my god, I'm looking at the colors and it's fucking me up.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, the colors are messing me up, okay uh, other than elena, the colors worked out pretty well.

Speaker 3:

And then blue shang-Chi Namor, oh one person got it right. Butterfucking. Milligan host of the Shortbox podcast, Number one comic book podcast Yelena.

Speaker 2:

Shang-Chi Kingo and then Namor.

Speaker 1:

Who the hell is Yelena Belova?

Speaker 2:

Florence Pugh, I go.

Speaker 3:

Florence Pugh. Florence Pugh.

Speaker 1:

Oh, Black Pudo.

Speaker 4:

Hey, put some respect on her name, she's already way better than Scarlet she's fucking carrying the energy right now, wow.

Speaker 1:

Scar Jo got demoted to Jurassic World.

Speaker 4:

I talked myself into the Eternals being before Black Widow and Shang-Chi, and I knew that that sucks.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, the Eternals almost got me, almost got me.

Speaker 2:

But all right, we're going to have some movement here Into the lead Two questions left. It's coming down to the wire folks. The next one we have a quiz In everything everywhere, all at once. Which object does Evelyn first use to verse? Jump in the IRS office? Does she? Use a piece of chapstick, a paper clip, a butt plug or a Bluetooth headset? What does she first use to verse?

Speaker 1:

jump in everything and everywhere all at once. Oh, I was wrong too.

Speaker 4:

Oh, that's right, I remember that now.

Speaker 1:

We all saw a butt plug. It was an award.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but she doesn't use the butt plug. Well, we forgot. Alright but she doesn't use the button plug. To be clear, she doesn't use the button plug.

Speaker 4:

Well, we forgot.

Speaker 2:

All right, we're going to watch K-Pop, demon Hunters and everything everywhere all at once, and Jaws apparently.

Speaker 4:

And Jaws All right.

Speaker 2:

One more question.

Speaker 1:

Oh my God, we can do it Really quick for the listening audience.

Speaker 2:

Weight Watcher is in the lead with 4,916. The lead with 4,916. Bj Guzzi with 4,252. And Burrito Boy with 3,693 in third place. Last question Slider Per their website, the Shortbox Podcast, has how many published episodes it is somewhere between 5 and 600.

Speaker 1:

Per their website. The short box podcast has blank Eric stop cheating. I'm not looking, I already submitted my answer.

Speaker 4:

I swear I'm not looking.

Speaker 1:

I think you removed the numbers too, so I don't because I was literally looking at your episodes earlier.

Speaker 2:

I found the answer on the website, so I don't think so.

Speaker 3:

Oh, okay, you did. Okay, I'm sitting here like 552.

Speaker 4:

Am I going to get it 152. I'm too short. I really hate how he's like incorrect.

Speaker 3:

We believe in you.

Speaker 1:

I apparently don't believe in myself. I said 558. Oh, somebody did get it right, so I was so close. Somebody did, or not right?

Speaker 3:

but like somebody got points for that I can believe I swear to god if you knocked me off the top spot let's see this will be so right.

Speaker 1:

Uh, we'll see how did getting your podcast losing on this question would be funny.

Speaker 4:

Here's the thing I did not.

Speaker 3:

I got it wrong. I said 500 because it was before phil said the website. I'm like, well, what did I put on the website? I know that I'm on episode 470 technically this week. Anyways, wow, I am embarrassed. Jay-z and the short box is like the two things I know the most of, and apparently I don't, you don't even know who you are.

Speaker 4:

Come on, phil, show us the results All right.

Speaker 2:

No more Damn, I think you still got it. Third place burrito boy. Still me Second place is BJ Glizzy, which means Real close to the Glizzy hey the leader of short boxing, he got, and the newest Weight Watcher Is the winner.

Speaker 1:

He got every single, with the exception of Ted Lasso. He got every single question.

Speaker 3:

That I curated for him Aimed at him wrong.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and he still won. That's good, and that is not the most botter fucking luck thing ever.

Speaker 3:

Of course the layups I fumbled, but Jacksonville Mall history. Come on, baby, you can't get more Duval than that. You can't Phil really quick man I got to give you a round of applause, because that was one hell of a good game. In terms of the range, oh yeah yeah, hold up the. Hold up the reward that I'm gonna confiscate? No, but seriously, the range of questions kept me on my toes. That was really good. That was a good-ass game.

Speaker 2:

Thank you. I became, you know, one first place. I didn't win, otherwise it would have been shit. But because I won, it was had I lost.

Speaker 3:

I would have had different. No, that was a lot of fun.

Speaker 2:

But there you go, folks. What did I miss? August 2025. We did it. Thank you for joining us and for listening and or watching. Before we get out of here, I want to give our guests the opportunity to anything that they are working on, corey, or I'll throw it to you first what's going on with Twinby and what else do you have going on for the remainder of the year?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so stuff I have coming up should be as long as the schedule is down. I should actually have Vigo Deathstroke Sound, whom you guys got to meet at the JPU the camp, but I should have him on next month for a chat about System of a down, the new metal band. Uh, from our childhood I should have one to two horror episodes, depending on if cinema villains can get their shit together. Um, I've got, I've got a couple of things coming up. Uh, nothing like not a whole lot of hard titles outside of System of a Down, but I'm really hoping to cover the amazing dub of Ghost Stories with Cinema Villains. If you've never heard of it, you will boy. It is amazing. But yeah, I should have a couple things coming out. I'm hoping to hit 12 episodes this year. That might happen, still covering Alien Earth, by the way. I should be recording on that tomorrow.

Speaker 2:

And then you're going to have me on to talk about Jurassic World Evolution 3. So I cannot wait for that episode. Yeah, might have to do that, and we will see you very soon at Ocala Comic Con. Most importantly, Tony's. So, honestly, don't really care what happens the rest of the weekend. Botter, what's going on with the short box, jpu and anything else that you're working on before we get out of here?

Speaker 3:

okay, uh, because I know phil and eric are, uh, professionals. They're gonna have links to the podcast and the show notes and all that good stuff. So what I'll say is that, um, apparently I've released way more than 500 episodes. And when it comes to the short box, if you are a fan of comic books or comic book culture, or you just like to hear from creative individuals writers, artists, editors, folks like that check out the short box. I do a lot of interviews. I've got a couple of interviews with some very talented comic book writers and artists coming up.

Speaker 3:

If you'll be at New York Comic Con this year, which takes place in October I think it's October 9th through the 12th this year I'll be doing a live podcast at New York Comic Con with some other amazing comic book podcasters as well. It'll be a live panel, a live podcast. We're going to have a lot of fun. But in terms of like the short box feed, hey, I'm going to continue cranking out some great interviews and spotlights on comic books, comic news reviews and interviews. That's been my thing lately. So the short box podcast is the best way to feel like you're at your local comic shop without ever leaving the house For an example of some of the topics they cover in the most recent episode, botter speaks with his guest for about 10 to 15 minutes on shipping.

Speaker 3:

You know it's just throwing me off that cory is talking about an episode I haven't technically. Are you talking about the kyle stark's episode? Yeah, oh, yeah, yeah, look, but that's that's what I'm saying. Is you know? I'm talking to these creatives who are putting in, you know? Are you know putting in the hard work um to become independent creators? So we talk about helpful things like how to ship Kickstarter campaigns, which is actually way more fascinating than it sounds, trust me.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and we have no room to talk either. We had a five-minute conversation about fruitcake, I think, with Bay recently.

Speaker 3:

Hey, look man, whatever comes up comes up Exactly. People come from the personality and sometimes it's talking about some bullshit.

Speaker 2:

Okay, yeah, like Botter mentioned, everything you need to know will be in the show notes of this episode. We appreciate you for checking us out. Maybe you're coming from cory or botter's community and you're checking us out for the first time, so make sure you click the link tree link. You can follow us on social media, the most important ones being instagram, tiktok, our growing discord community and twitch, where we are streaming a lot. If you want to support the podcast, you can do a couple things Head on over to YouTube, do the typical stuff like share, subscribe. Head on over to Apple Podcasts, spotify, leave a five-star review for every podcast that you hear today. It is the lifeblood of podcasting and we very much appreciate the additional support. But if you find yourself wanting to get these episodes early and maybe even having a hand in the content that we put out and get your monthly BJ Glizzy, eric will let you know how to do that before getting us out of here. Bj Glizzy, that was unsettling, didn't like that.

Speaker 4:

You didn't like that, okay, well, it's unfortunate, but if you did like what you saw here today, maybe you could consider joining our patreon, where patrons of the show briar t3, kato, vintage macaroni cory from the world is my burrito nick casbaro, the author of the vidalirium series, and the right hand man himself, botter from the short box podcast, are supporting us, uh, each and every month on that platform in exchange for behind the scenes and early access to episodes like this one. So definitely make that jump, support us there. But if you can't stay where you're at, do the free stuff. All of that does wonders for shows like ours and we really appreciate it. With that being said, my name is Mr Eric Almighty, that's my co-host, phil the Filipino Botter and Corey. Thank you so much for joining us tonight and please don't forget, we release new episodes for the podcast every Wednesday and all you got to do is wait for it.

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