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Den Dybe Tallerken #29 FACEOFF
Hi everyone and welcome to another episode of the Deep Talergon where I have a guest from the FACE OF EVENTS. I am so excited to talk about the Gynostic. We are not just talking about the Gynostic, we are talking about it in a completely new way. The FACE OF EVENTS is that they have taken a whole subculture of Gynostic competition and show that they have turned the whole thing completely upside down and turned it into a very different story from people who have not turned into Gynostic, because if you have not turned into Gynostic you can be quite excited to watch it. But they have really, really made it very different and extremely entertaining.
Speaker 1:And what I think is exciting about FACE OF is what they have thought, where it started, what they have done for a year, where they have taken something so conservative as the Gynostic and made it something that is just so easy to consume. So I am just driving right into the machine room with me and René Dues from FACE OF and then we will just talk a little about it. So I hope you enjoyed this episode. You should at least be happy. I think he has inspired a lot from UFC. I heard a lot of Joe Rogan. I think it is exciting because he has so many different guests in his team.
Speaker 2:What is your motivation for the show?
Speaker 1:What is my motivation for the show?
Speaker 2:That was difficult.
Speaker 1:I was just trying to get my brain to work. I will try to do a little bit of something crazy.
Speaker 2:I am going to tell you that it was my inspiration. It is not because I have heard a lot of Joe Rogan, but there is an astrophysicist called Jamie Cox Brian Cox who is just out of this world. I am not sure if he is Brian Cox, I will tell you that. But it is also because of the astrology, the stars, the dark holes, the existentialism. It is just so cool. What does it mean to be human? What does it mean? To live. What does it mean to be?
Speaker 1:Ok, fuck, next level, it is the after, where you just lie down and get up and do nothing.
Speaker 2:How do I end up?
Speaker 1:here, I think, the first episode that came to my mind he has made a video with a god called Bob Lazar, and then he was like what A god who has worked on Area 51, exactly. Oh, the star is right here. Hello, ok, that's fine.
Speaker 2:I have also heard that there is a documentary about him on Netflix or YouTube. I think he is full of shit. Do you think so? Yes enough. You can not make such a story, so be the only one who says it right. No it is not, there is only him and he says he has seen them and they have taken these new magnetic.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they have grabbed his.
Speaker 2:Yeah exactly cool, or whatever he talks about, where it is just the energy. I do not think so, but he seems to have kept the same story since he came out for the first time.
Speaker 1:He has and what I do not think, because I think he works. I am not a psychologist or an expert or anything, but I think I can understand people. It is full of shit in a way so he is very, very, very, very rich in life, or he has become hypnotized.
Speaker 2:And then he has a plan to talk about these things. Yes, that could be good. It is also good to know that he is caught in a game where he has to be a decoy To see what he really is.
Speaker 1:It is like thinking about him. His name is Grudge, david Grudge. There is another dude who says everything in the U-Force. It is a horror story for everyone. I do not know. I think it is very exciting because it is so way out of my Do you think that we are the only intelligent beings In the? Universe, of course not.
Speaker 2:What is your name? Paradox Paradox we are talking about. If the universe is infinite, then we should be the subject of intelligent life. There should be a trace of intelligent life everywhere in the universe, because if the universe is infinite or we are more, then there should be in the time that is infinite. There has been technology that is so much more advanced that there should be traces of intelligent life everywhere, but they can not find anything. No, that is right. I think it was Fermi paradox. Yes, it is very exciting.
Speaker 1:It also gives a lot of meaning. But there is so far, there is still, there is so far between things. They also just found out. What if they? Were here, but we will never be in the norm to search for it. No, how the hell would you it?
Speaker 2:would be completely idiotic.
Speaker 1:We are just hitting each other everywhere.
Speaker 2:And we are smacking our clothes Completely. It does not make any sense.
Speaker 1:No, it does not make sense to talk about it, but if we have some resources, they do Through the sea Then we are never down. They are very sensitive.
Speaker 2:If you look at life like this, so that life that is the best of all is microscopic, you can not help. So if you look at an evolution of what it should be, then we should be less and less. We do that too, but you can say that the most sustainable form of life Is microscopic life. We are also filled with microscopic life. That is true.
Speaker 1:Our tarmac is completely bonanza. They are also different.
Speaker 2:It is so crazy, tarm flora.
Speaker 1:That is crazy. Well done, daniel, I agree. How do?
Speaker 2:you feel I have a lot of expectations. I have seen a lot of things.
Speaker 1:I think I can imagine the last video we had with him. I was an instructor at Søresylans Reppold and you were our student.
Speaker 2:It is 8 years ago. It is very cold.
Speaker 1:What is the name of the student?
Speaker 2:I have a piece of paper on it. I have used it to get my first job as a postgraduate teacher and at the same time I was a student with a bad sense of responsibility. I was in the school I was in. I was there for half a year Half a year, to be fair, half a year. I was in a film business and I had too much to see. And suddenly I had to choose Should I build my own or should I continue with this?
Speaker 1:How do you overlap these two things? You had started in the video film you had that. I remember you were buying a Sony camera.
Speaker 2:You were in slow motion. It was a next level.
Speaker 1:You were sitting at home and you could not be shooting with the camera.
Speaker 2:I had a long story. How do you do it really short. I was doing it with samples. I come from the university world and it was the way you were. The goal you had Was to make the best samples. You had to make samples. You had to say, hey, let's see. He is really interested. So I started, and then I started to make more. I was on a high base and suddenly someone called me. What do you have for that? Would you pay me money? I?
Speaker 2:have no idea. I was not thinking about it and suddenly I ended up living it and it just happened organically, totally.
Speaker 1:It's crazy.
Speaker 1:I have so many questions.
Speaker 1:I had the honor to be a part of In the Forum Horsens and it's been a while since I've been in the chemistry world and I've traveled a lot and you know I'm doing my thing now and then, once in a while, I get to put my tears in the chemistry environment, to get into a show like this or just before the world, and it was like what?
Speaker 1:What the hell is going on? Because when you don't have your fingers on the pulse anymore, you're really in the contrast from year to year With what's happening at a certain level, with the chemistry of the Vatican, but also with something creative and what's happening with something like this, like a face-off, and it's so fucking cool and I was hated the day after I couldn't even my boyfriend was sitting there and I was like, yeah, come on, you can't be completely satisfied and that's why you're doing it, because it's cool, but also because of the production, production value and the way it's set up Is so fucking new and it's just. It just loses all the fit entertainment In a cool way and I don't understand what you're saying and that's what I want to do. I want to take my time back To see how it all comes about.
Speaker 2:Yeah, first of all, thank you. It's really nice that people and people who know the environment Like the world is setting up. That's where we're heading to. It's been a long journey, With failures on failures, To find out what we're doing and what we're doing. Are we a competition? Are we a relationship? What is face-off? It all started in 2014. I joined in year two, but before that, a group of guys Started as a free room when they could be and be themselves when we could be. That's the elite. Gymnastics Is really really Low-class. It's gymnastics. It's a tight suit and you have to warm up for an hour and then you have to stand on the bars.
Speaker 1:It's really old school. Yeah, exactly, and it's one of those things. You know, it's a lot of tradition. It was at least I don't know and it's also been put into a bit of a, the traditions of the Danish classical gymnastics. When the world is like that and you swing your arms and roll around, the fans are coming, we have to rise up and we have to do that too.
Speaker 2:But it's a lot of fun and it's still going on. There are more of us that are going in opposition to it, but it's still very classic and it's a great value and it's a great history. You're standing on the shoulders, but we were very inspired by the snowboard scene, the break dance scene, the skateboard scene. It was like a subculture, like fuck yeah, they're cool, they're good. And they're like how cool is that? It's what we want.
Speaker 2:We want to take that sport that we love and do it with it. Let the athletes see what's so cool Because we think gymnastics is fucking cool the mood down in the training room, the mood we have together as a group. We just want to dive in and show that and not show that we take a, a special line and go to the goal of others. We just want to show who we are In our sport scene Because, if we can afford it, we thought there was an audience for it, that there was someone who wanted to see it Because it's fucking cool.
Speaker 1:Because it's also about coming out To show it to other gymnasts. Because when you're not in the gymnastics environment and you take it around to the stands, you just show your gymnastics to the other gymnasts. So you don't get out of it and it's about coming out and reaching it. It has to be that it has to be fucking hard To do gymnastics to something super that has a high entertainment value Because it looks so weird when you're in the air, but if you can't really see it, it's the same as the whole thing.
Speaker 2:There were three or four screws and that's it. There were many. I think that's why it's about Making gymnastics simple. Gymnastics is not simple If you send me to summer With Oulu in Paris and see the gymnastics. Now I don't have gymnastics. I don't understand. I don't know, why I don't understand why he's 7.4 or 18.
Speaker 2:I can see that it looks weird. He landed and he made a triple backflip In the hip position. It looks fucking cool. I'm bending and you can see he turns and he falls and he falls from the other side. It's because in classical sports, if it's about dancing or gymnastics, you sit with one form Of cutting points, a real bow that says that this jump gives this character. Then you put it together and you have a transition character and then you sit there and look at the file. You land but you made a two step 0.2 and you weren't like this and that was wrong. You only get 7.4.
Speaker 2:We have, we have turned our relationship About Because our relationship is 5, 6 Long and it's just a description of the disciplines. The condemnation is up to the fools, but we look after success, we look after what goes well, we honor success. If you are going to be fools, from today you get a sign From 0 to 10 0.1. You have to judge what you think this spring is going to be and then it's the one who makes the best spring that wins, not the one who makes the worst mistakes, but the one who makes the most of the worst mistakes. And then you can say it's very powerful that we don't want to judge, but we also choose to judge after the fact that each of us has the competence to be able to take this decision.
Speaker 1:I can remember from the first time it was in Svendborg and you see Simon Öebro standing with a smile and then you see Simon Öebro standing in the farmhouse with flames and it's like fuck something is happening all the time.
Speaker 2:It's really been a long journey. We started here in December. We have 10 years of experience. We started in 2014 and we take our 10 years of experience with a tour in boxing. We have simply booked the Juske Bank Box. It's really just so convenient to think about when you say it like that, coming from Lille, svendborg, the first time in the SG house down there were, there were 40 people who bought the ticket, so we could just get the whole Svendborg gymnasium. So there were maybe 3, 400, that was it, but then it's just so quiet and fun. That time it worked out Facebook and YouTube in a different way. So aftermovie from 2014 got 1 million views Just one day. What the fuck is happening here? And it was like kickstart. Okay, but there are some who think it's cool out here. And after we drove in Svendborg, svendborg, it was super cool.
Speaker 1:What do you think is the fault? Because it's happened a little exponentially. What do you think is the fault? Do you think that Facebook well, facebook, let's talk about it. Facebook loses in the middle of a lot.
Speaker 2:In what way? In the gymnastics world.
Speaker 2:Yes, I think there were a lot of others too, and there are a lot of others too who have used a room where you don't have to sit and be judged on what you did wrong and just want to see these athletes go amok, because they go amok, not just run with them, but there's a lot of them. I've never seen people who are crying like they are crying, and what I see because you can see the intensity in their eyes and they are at the limit it's the most important thing they can present. Now. You can see that well, you can feel it as a public opinion. So the solution when you're lucky is just so much bigger than if you know that it's okay. But Rasmus Beck, in a Tumbling competition he can do something that's three times as difficult. But it doesn't make sense in people's relationship because he doesn't promise he gets punished if he doesn't have straight legs or if his landing is a little unrotated. Here you get confused when it really goes well, and I think that's what's in the public?
Speaker 1:Is it an idea from the start that you have to wait for it, in a way?
Speaker 2:Our relationship hasn't changed that much. The fundamental issue in the relationship the supply has changed a lot, but the fundamental condemnation in the relationship is the same. It's still the stupidest guess what's going to happen.
Speaker 1:So it's just that some people have seen Frostgarden down from Valthe and then they've thought what's going to happen in the chemistry there? And then or is it because there has been a kind of we have to do something about?
Speaker 1:this Because it is chemistry. Now I'm out of chemistry and I can tell you that I was very convinced and very, very, very sad. It's the same and the same and the same. And once in a while some people just dry out and go out and do house moves and then you see some stupid gymnasts doing house moves and then you see people actually dancing house and see gymnasts doing what they're doing.
Speaker 1:But there are never really any people who have really done it and just been a total piece around, Is it? Has there been a motivation for that, or has there just been a cool freestyle snowboard competition down in the beginning?
Speaker 2:There has been a great motivation for doing something else with the culture we're standing on the shoulders of. So if we go back completely then it started with Jesper and Frederik Bertelsen. They didn't shave, but they were out on a trip with the world and they started to edit the film on tour and then they did the after effects and things. And then Jesper came to the hospital with his knee out and started to edit more and they started to make a small production company for Hynkenskyl and then they got this idea of making this project Jumbo off Tour.
Speaker 1:I don't remember in 2004. It was just behind the scenes.
Speaker 2:From Sweden and that's what Kickstarter started and it was really very inspired by the name Art of Flight the one you mentioned.
Speaker 1:He lives in that city.
Speaker 2:I'm really sorry you have to be completely honest with me when you're on this tour there's Art of Flight with M83 music just like that King of the Stukströmel Completely normal. When you're on this tour and then they have to find some sponsors because it's not free on a tour like this. They use it to SG, the Swedish Ministry of Justice and.
Speaker 2:Jacob Krammer and Jacob said we can do that. But if we need to help financially on this tour or what with food, I don't know but if they need to support me on this tour, they help us with developing a new gymnastics conference. They had worked on a little bit of a thing called I think they called it a Red Bull Cup because it was inspired by that and they didn't answer the question. We have this shit set to one another. We could think of trying something else, because giving it a new life, this gymnastics, and that was the end of it to be like Face-Off 2014,. The first time we gathered three teams and no one knew what was going to happen and suddenly it just went up. So that's just enough. So it's a whole core story. It comes from this tour. Art of Flight, inspiration, snowboard Breakdance. I would like to know something else. Jacob is coming up with a good idea. That is just a shit set.
Speaker 1:We have to try something new it has to help us, if we have to support us, and then it's a big event in December. I have seen Snowboard movies, 10,000 times I bought them. It's on my computer, I can just see them on the flyers. It's so much fun to say that I listen to it every time that it's easier to fly every time and it's out-thrown with M83, and then they drive, they're like slow-motion. They're like slow-motion, they're just an iconic movie.
Speaker 2:So that's the thing I think. If you have to find the core idea, then it's there. It's like it's jumping out and it has a blom-strap from there, but then a success. It was Fog and a new success, there's a new success, and then we're a group of guys who have a hard time doing it twice a year.
Speaker 1:Yes, because the police. Let me be the flight attendant on the plane, because there's what's going on. Because there's no, no, there's nothing. It's good, it's what's going to be the next year. When will the idea?
Speaker 2:come with the il, and that's a good one. It's a good one. It's in 2017.
Speaker 2:Jesper is reading to the pilot, and when you read to the pilot, you have to make some projects, and one of his projects is to find out. I think it's something. You have to take an idea and then you have to see if you can make a direction out of it. Is your idea strong enough to make money and do it in one way or another for such a profitable company event, one country, I think and then he will face off as his project and build the farm horses. And then he and Malthaar one of the others masterminds back in, face off, they take it to the farm and they meet with the farm and they're like, yes, we're going to build the scene up, okay, shit, good idea, but they're going to run to the farm instead of running to the farm.
Speaker 2:I don't know anything about gymnastics, but a farm is 30 centimeters high. The farm is covered with a presentation which is really hard to land on. You have to land on the legs. Yes, you have to run. It's something deeper and the farm is very smooth, so you can make a lot of hard jumps because you don't hit the farm.
Speaker 1:There's not much of a consequence you have a little more slack in relation to risk.
Speaker 2:And then there's the thing we had our own sprint and Søren Bistrup, one of the others, father and mother, they were in a hostel where they had a big farm so we could just have a meal, build it up, and the scene was up. And then Malthaar and Jesper and the camera where they're filming one way or another, sitting on the stands telling us that we've done something wild, and we were like wild and 3, 2, 1, and they were like on a movie. And then there was wild. So it wasn't because in Denmark we didn't get to that point. But you can say that the formula of the wild is to strengthen the film. That's what it does. That's our motto. It's all about telling the audience and helping them to do what we want them to do. It's just too strong.
Speaker 1:I'm just going up for all the jumps and stuff like that. It's just, it just works pretty well. Yeah, it does. And then you sit in the middle of the stage and it's just about how it can be wild next year. And now we've built the boxes.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we're the dreamers.
Speaker 1:One thing is to get an idea, another thing is to get it to happen.
Speaker 2:I think we're super-stated.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's good High drive. I hope you don't get bored with this, but I'm just like what are the how do these processes have to be used for the wild? There must be all kinds of fucking rules. It's because it's not wild.
Speaker 2:It's not wild. It's pretty hot and it's just wild, but it's not wild. It's not a pyrotechnic, it's something else, because we use gas bottles and if the gas bottles are smaller than it's just some big light gas bottles and some kind of dimmer and then they're like but it's not a pyrotechnic.
Speaker 1:It's something else, and then you have to go. So there's just a grey zone Because they're not tender. Was there a world-class at the time?
Speaker 2:that had something wild with it. It was kind of a chain.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it could be. It was a world-class. Yeah, but there was a lot of bubble with it. Yeah, in a lamp or a oil tank. In a lamp or a oil tank.
Speaker 2:But we didn't have. We also had a bubble with it. We have a conference where the island is first scheduled after 40 minutes, because on the day we continue to burn the wind, we don't have to shoot the island, because he doesn't mean that it's. It falls under the category that we mean.
Speaker 1:it does we're talking about last year in December.
Speaker 2:No, it was in. Was it 21?
Speaker 1:Yeah. What is a conference? What do you mean by a conference?
Speaker 2:It was in the 21st of February. We had a company to stand for all this biotech, or all these flames here that said the same thing. They said to you it's not biotech, so we have to do well. But then there's a fireman and he says we don't have to. And then he says Form Horsens, you don't have to Because .20 minutes before the conference, jesper and I from Hallen, you have to go there immediately and then he's just a sms up to Front of Houses and says Il ok, il ok, so we really have.
Speaker 2:It's a very good thing in a further conversation, because we've burned the island many times In each dream and tried new things and made 10,000 mistakes.
Speaker 1:What do you think will be the result?
Speaker 2:Well, we can see that.
Speaker 1:Do you have a specific thought that it is also great?
Speaker 2:It is a moving headpin. When you expand it, you don't spend money on everything you do. It is important to come to a point where it is just waiting to be self-sufficient or to turn yourself in. There are many ways we go down where we beat ourselves, but we will have to keep going. If we need to, we will do a face-up, like we do in December.
Speaker 1:There are some who don't think it is a good idea. We will invest money in the gymnasium. It is our primary money.
Speaker 2:There are some people who think we are very bad at it and it is the same as the elite that is out there. After the calendar, there is a team gym, a power-tumbling, a gymnasium, etc. We try to make a calendar. That is like an athlete. We will not do fair events. We will find out how it is.
Speaker 1:We facilitate a competition where people don't sit still, there is a lot of money and there is a lot of money.
Speaker 2:There are athletes who choose. At the moment it is not a goal that they choose. But we have a goal to professionalize the gymnasium. We can put more money in the money but, especially on our athletes' paths, we can get the first full-time professional athlete. It is a great goal.
Speaker 1:If we can do it With the trajectory you have now, it is possible. It is possible. How many competitions do you have on the calendar?
Speaker 2:Four Three qualifications to win in Denmark, Norway and Sweden and the main event in boxing.
Speaker 1:How many qualifications do you have in Denmark? It?
Speaker 2:is on Ollrup in their arena, 2000 people and a huge party afterwards 22 June, 22 June in the US there was a lot. We have decided that our qualification will be in Denmark and Norway, but the competition will be in the arena. We will do a arena setup Minimum 1800, 2000,. 1000, 1000, is there room for it, we will do it ourselves. Minimum is 10,000 in boxing.
Speaker 1:Now I am looking at the pictures. There are a lot of different competitions, something from Jump-Off, which is the whole thing, some cool pictures from the Horsens, some mothers, some happy people and some non-epiro techniques. The production was so wonderful. I am in the US and I have been in the US for years. It is 100% up, but some of the craziest sports events I have seen in the US, with production value, with the athletes on the screen with the name, there are no more than four seconds after they have done it. Who is doing it and how secure is it?
Speaker 1:How double? What is the system?
Speaker 2:It goes so fast. It is a goal that we develop ourselves. The whole system has developed ourselves. The idea is to be as simple as possible, because when you are down, you sit and wait.
Speaker 1:It is instantly. I just look down and look at the dummies.
Speaker 2:You don't have to wait for any time. We sit in a theater break where we have to have a break, but in practice there are five dummies, there are five switches behind the eyes. Each has its own dummies that have to be put into a system. If you have a dummies number one, each time he does something you put his number in. Then there is a lot of computer magic. Then it comes into a home page and this home page controls all the graphics. It is a new overlay. We can use the same graphics in a broadcast, a live stream.
Speaker 1:You have developed yourself.
Speaker 2:It is not me who is coding.
Speaker 1:It is a gymnast from the country. You run a slow motion video, you turn on the dummies, you get points on the table. You don't have to wait for anything. When you get into an event, you just sit down. You have to be ready to go. How have you structured your intensity? Up, down, up down. Now it is possible to go down a little. You get some contrast in how you have it.
Speaker 2:It is a script we have used for ten years. It is easy to know when we get into this part of the competition. We have to have tracks on. The light is to do this, the whole run down. We have a long run down. Everything is described to each customer and the run down is the script on the table yes, exactly, dos 12.0.0. The music says this this is the light. Then you have five minutes. Everything you experience is described in such a run down.
Speaker 1:You have to be hyper-organized. No. You have to be hyper-organized. I didn't see a mistake. I am so new to nature. I enjoy the show, I look at the camera and run around on a two-wheel drive. I see the dumb people sitting in the corner or someone sitting on a table. How can he? Not choose.
Speaker 2:How can?
Speaker 1:he not choose. It is so good.
Speaker 2:I think it is about choosing the right people for the right tasks. It is about finding people you stand on to solve the specific task that is ahead of you. In relation to the whole production, we have each of our tasks. I sat here in the OBE-warn and made a live stream. I jumped out of a car and sat there talking to our commentators. I talked to all the people. I talked to them and saw that there was flow in the broadcast. At the same time, I had to build the whole production. Oliver sat there and developed it. When this happens, it should happen. When this happens, you should do this. When this happens, he sat here with the graphic development, A scoreboard we developed. He sits and has a man behind him who triggers slow motion. They talk together and say, yes, look at Mathias as a run master for the whole show In the room. Yes, slow, we slow. There is a mechanism that just runs because it is pros who sit there. They know what they are doing.
Speaker 1:It is so crazy. It is a whole choreography of a sequence that should happen in a real range. I do not imagine that you are learning all this to get more attention.
Speaker 2:No, and it is also a bit wild because we have learned it ourselves.
Speaker 1:That is what I mean. It is so good it really, really, really works. It just works as it should. It must be so complicated? I can hardly find out, because the two heads of the phone are here.
Speaker 2:You can see the office we are sitting up to Face-off with Inevent I do not see it. There are leds, cables and boxes, because I am building it. It is the system that Oliver is developing. I was going to sit in the O-B-Wagen. Oliver is here in 14 days. It was the first time he was in the production of the studio. He was learning it. He lived here in 14 days. I am building the system. Now you have to learn it. Pick my brain.
Speaker 1:Let's go. You have a lot of YouTube I have used a lot of time on YouTube.
Speaker 2:It is so complex. I am good at doing this. How do I do it? I do not know. We do not have a director who has led the broadcast for a thousand years. We call him and ask him. He tests it. He says it is cool. I try this. If I do this and write it here, he says it is good.
Speaker 1:It works. It is just a cross-finger. When you stand down, do you do something? We do a lot of tests.
Speaker 2:We put everything on the table. We start with a setup. We light up the screen. If you take the production and light up, you will set up a tower. We have built it. We have to do that. We cannot build it. The cables are built, the physical development, all the graphics are made, some pictures and films are taken. We can put them in the system. Everything is written in. You will see in the film where I sit in the O-B-wagon, there are buttons and chaos. I try to produce this battle. I sit in the O-B-wagon, I just cry. I do not press the button. Fuck yeah.
Speaker 1:It must be so wild behind the scenes. The production itself is so intense. It is so high-paced. There is nothing to be afraid of. There is no time to sit. I sit as a substitute. You can remember the show. I sit in the O-B-wagon. I sit in the O-B-wagon. I cry. We start with a hot dog.
Speaker 2:We have designed the competition. We have shot down the time. The first competition in the video is half an hour, two hours on the crew. In the crew competition there is one break. You have to take a break. It must be enough time. It is also necessary to be as consistent as possible. You should not be nervous, you should not be nervous. You should not be nervous. You should not be nervous. What are the reasons for telling the story? Because athletes like superstars.
Speaker 1:You sit for many hours. I was sitting there for many hours.
Speaker 2:The door is open at 12.30. It is 6-7 hours.
Speaker 1:I have to be in control of the rhythm and pace. How do you start the competition?
Speaker 2:We have a drawing course. We would like to have it to run in the flow. We have done it many times. You have an experience to draw. What happens when we use this number? What can you do? What is your reaction? What is your reaction?
Speaker 1:Personally, production value is the first thing. It is the tension. The mood is tense. It gets tense more and more over time. You are always very engaged. I am sitting here. It is a great experience. You go from a sensory overload you have to decompress. When you get out of there, I think that the jumping stage is where they go into a trampoline, they go up on a model, they go down into a big trampoline. It is very linear.
Speaker 1:It is very easy to get bored. What do you call them? It is a jump concept Playground. Playground is a little. It is very simple when something happens, two-dimensional, you can see some of the gymnasts, you know what is happening. You get a triple out on a model with 10 meters of running. Yes, they are what is happening at that level it is very funny.
Speaker 2:We have visited a English idol gymnast, Nile Wilson. He has 1.7 million followers on YouTube. He is doing the same on Instagram. He has been a YouTuber himself. He has been a YouTuber himself.
Speaker 2:He is very good at making a jump-stage. We had gathered a group of 7-8 guys Nile and Ash. They took guys from England to try the face-off. Nile was in the O-Wall bronze in High Bar. He stood there and couldn't say anything when he saw the guys Because they were so angry with each other. We talked about Neilam, what he sees as the biggest difference, and what we talked about is that they have increased in their lives. They have had face-off, they have young guys from their birth, From the start, with the law of gymnastics, so they know what it is. Where, Neilam, he has made the Red Sky gymnastics. It's a classic O-L gymnastics On 12 x 12 meters gold. There is made 3.
Speaker 1:There was some b-dip small fat under.
Speaker 2:It's clear that he can't do the jumps Because their gymnastics is so boxy that when you do it you practice on one exercise. And that's it when our guys, they are used to jumping from a rescue to a hard one, a little hard to something that is sick soft, hard again, and they have the understanding of different overflows.
Speaker 1:To go from a hard pump PE-motte down a big trampoline and then back down on a track. You really need to know your body so well. No, how wild you are. But what do you say? You should try the disciplines and then in some of the drinks that were made to face-off, to do something like that. I saw some videos for Olo. Was it there?
Speaker 2:He is really. It's funny because it's something else if you have to take it. He is a person who has taken the gymnastics and he lives it now, but he lives it making movies, small Reels, youtube videos and things like that. Making gymnastics on the videos right, and it's something like that Former Olympic champion Tries Diving for the first time. Bodybuilder Tries Gymnastics. It's a challenge format. It's super entertaining and he is really an entertainer. But he has the ability to do gymnastics professionally after he is retired and it's fucking nice.
Speaker 1:What is it that he can do? What is it that he can do, since he has been able to do it, to reach the maximum? He did it from the start with the talent.
Speaker 2:He started with training vlogs from Olo in Rive in 16, where he was with I don't think it's 16 in Rive and then he went to Tokyo where he didn't come with because he was injured. And then after that he stopped training vlogs, since he started to get a lot of followers because he just did it from the start and then he took part in a challenge format. So he has done it in 10 years now, been on YouTube and on Instagram together. Then you get a good followers chart, in a way, when you get to know who to be good at and make content, and then he's super entertaining. He's just a great personality Was it him, who?
Speaker 1:who was your name? Who was your name? He was my investor for Levent Hul.
Speaker 2:It was Olivier Damme Okay, and that she's more of a model than she is a gymnast.
Speaker 1:No, okay with that on.
Speaker 2:She's good at gymnastics, but she's not in any way. She's just a bias. No, she's more of a member, she's just a loco, yeah yeah, great, but Olivier Damme, she's just as much of a model as she is. Okay, that's what you're looking at.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's what I'm looking at. If you have competence and you're good, exactly, and you can't show your body without a lot of confidence. Yeah, but it's not like that, it's just out of the game. Yeah, yeah, yeah, attention is the new money. Yeah, exactly. Yeah the head. The head sells, the whole head sells. Then we'll try it Really. Let's do it, let's do it.
Speaker 2:I think if you look at the face-off in general, how we came to start with, I think we're just dreamers who are still in and who will have it to a certain extent. We don't have any plans. It's not possible that it's not a success for us.
Speaker 1:No, it's not possible, but that's a nice trade. You can say and that's also what we're talking about. We're talking a lot about, in my opinion, that there are those who are school and snow, there are those who are school and road, and then there are some who go back and forth and do a little bit the same as them. And it's just hard to be those who are school and snow, because you have to reinvent, reinvent, reinvent, reinvent, reinvent, reinvent. Can you repeat something? Can there be anything new in the box now?
Speaker 2:Yes, but I can't just repeat what it's saying. You can't say anything In relation to the box. It's really about doing it attractive for the common man to come into the community.
Speaker 1:Yes, of course.
Speaker 2:So we're going to simplify some of those things we work with, except when we lose our core in the community. So there will be some disciplines that are completely different from Macro. In relation to doing it more. It's easy to understand. As you say, a playground is a really good example. This is a big concept where you have 1 minute and 15 seconds to make the best choreography spring thing around this playground and people don't really understand it. It's very much eaten up and very much gymnastic-like.
Speaker 1:You really have to have sense for what you're looking at. There's timing and things have to be synchronized, because it's not, because it's not used to be able to imagine that it's just chaos, it's just chaos.
Speaker 2:Where do I look? You can look at 16 meters at the same time. You can't. So there will be at least some disciplines that will get a new Macro, maybe more like a game show. What can I say where it's easy to understand? Okay, that's cool.
Speaker 1:How does it come in the back For the most basic Big-scale production? Big-scale production.
Speaker 2:Big-scale production. And then the box is big, but it's built well.
Speaker 1:Okay, I could be there once in a concert it's huge.
Speaker 2:Can't you sit more than 10? If you open the top of the roof, you can sit 14-16,000. We don't open that now.
Speaker 1:That's a lot of people.
Speaker 2:That's a lot of people. It couldn't be done to women's handball now.
Speaker 1:Have you ever thought about how active it was on Instagram and TikTok? Have you ever thought about how much it's converted? Is that a prerequisite for the billet hall? Not much.
Speaker 2:That's one of our focus points this year. It's finding out how we break the real people, because now we break a lot of people really wide with cool gymnastics Brand value message. It's cool to see a lot of people. A lot of people know Facebook and have seen it and see the gymnastics community. There's something about the recognition that's really important.
Speaker 1:And for people to convert from real to a billet cup there's a long way there's a really long way, and also because people who consume that type of content they consume a lot of it. That's what they do. Are there any questions about how much there is in the billet hall? That isn't the only circle of gymnastics.
Speaker 2:We're still there where we sell tickets to the gymnasium, but there's still a lot of gymnasium out there.
Speaker 1:There's really really, really a lot of gymnasium.
Speaker 2:So in that way the market is still open and now we're going to see the high-ranking gymnastics in the Middle East. So in that way I think a lot of people are still interested in and a lot of gymnasts and gymnastics families would like to have it. But now we've just been on, as you said, we've just been to Nicola in Nyhåld by the way through Løgenshuule here where we were in Fjernsynhed, and it's certainly opened up a lot of all-meaning Danish eyes for gymnastics. We were on the move that I am in 3-day stretch under our opinion with a story about Rasmus Beck and his face-off adventures.
Speaker 1:So in that way it's starting to roll out. I think that's absolutely certain, because there are a lot of gymnasts out there, and it's also important that they come Because I can remember when I started to gymnastics who I was inspired by and I saw a triple-hopped outfit. And it was like why can't you do that Exactly? It was so fucking cool here. But those who are doing circuses in the USA and the Swedish national team. They come in and see when they see that. Okay, that's just what.
Speaker 2:I'm thinking, that's me, I'd like to be him, and that's also what we try to do. A lot we want to create, we want to make our athletes sit on the superstar, because they are, yeah, they are.
Speaker 1:It's so hard to do that.
Speaker 2:But you don't understand it.
Speaker 2:But in the classical gymnastics there has been a lot of Danish gyandeloves where Neil, whom we talked about just before, is totally opposed to that. He just asks for a game and says look at me, give me. I have to give it to you. That's what many Danish gyandels do, but we do that for them, for our friends and for our channels. We try to create the new superstars in gymnastics and I'm on the way with it and there they have to be like the athletes. How do you navigate this new curiosity? And who am I on a social profile and who am I personally and who am I on Facebook? And then they start to find people who can do it, and then we want to professionalize and make them do it for superstars. They also have to take responsibility for being a real Olivier Don. Yeah.
Speaker 1:And, at the same time, I think he knows very well what his name is Nicolai Nyham. Yeah, exactly, I think he knows very well that you made a documentary journey because the gynaestries one country where you kind of get into a bit of a back-up. Is there something going on in front or is it something you're waiting for or how, because I think it's five o'clock. Yeah, it's a really cool idea.
Speaker 2:We are like Face of Avioid Brand, a pair of police organizations that do events. My life is not. I don't know if it's exciting. I think it is for everyone.
Speaker 1:You're not supposed to be, it's fine, but Because it's a bit unexpected, but quickly, because what's with it is, I can be bothered to see a dude sitting and making a A leather point on YouTube.
Speaker 1:Not because I'm interested in what he's supposed to do. But it's just so inspiring to see someone be an expert in something and be a really high driver and be something and be really ambitious. It hurts completely and it's almost as if it's something to be with. So it's good what you say, that my life isn't exciting, but maybe it's not really what it is. No, it's really it's about being aware, because Face of can be impossible to be stupid.
Speaker 1:It's stupid today without someone being very motivated to do what it's supposed to be and it's in itself essential to the inspiration. You should document that, I think.
Speaker 2:It's a different angle. On our side, we see constant after finding new ways to reach more people. We do that all the time. It's our job, it's the most important thing that we can use Face of, and I think it's cool to buy tickets, to buy a T-shirt, so that there's money in our company, so we can live in it and start investing more in our company. We've also talked about should we start making YouTube videos, but it's always the same that for us, it's more important that the leaders are forced especially me, because I'm not Face of. That's essential. I think I work with Face of and develop it and build the big skeleton, but it's not me who's standing on the stage.
Speaker 1:Hell of a thing, so it could be very cool to see one of them he's from Australia or the Middle East to see him eat his sea cucumber and talk about what he's going to do today and make his training videos. I'm starting to follow him.
Speaker 2:after I've fought him, he's really, really willing. The reason we don't say yes, we're just going with the economic perspective. If we're not going to cover 4, 5, 10 leaders of life. It's going to take 12 full-time sets and get it to succeed.
Speaker 1:And when we're going to film, we're going to travel to Australia, exactly.
Speaker 2:But we have. I can tell you we've really been struggling with ourselves and it's possible to not be tired of our lives. Have you at least had a camera in your hand and documented a lot? There's a lot of back-catholic stuff. If you were to make a face-off documentary on land just at the point.
Speaker 1:Yes, you need 100% of that. Yes, that's what some need. Yes, but it's almost necessary to be on the other side of the box, exactly, yes, so fucking glad. I can't say it's so cool that some people just say we're going to take a look at the film and it's been so. It's a bit difficult to answer because it's so beautiful with traditional language. And it's so beautiful, yes, and it's so beautiful that you just have to take all the terms out. You can't call them gymnasts, for example. No, I use a lot of athletes, athletes and you call them tricks. Yes, flips, flips, tricks. Is it for what? Is it the competition? Is it for maybe?
Speaker 2:trying to make your own where you're not like that. I think it's really about creating a new language, Because gymnasts if you're a gymnast, you already have a picture of it Strums, tricots, string boxing, a happy halve mom and dad are drinking coffee and eating a cake over here, smoking, but it's not smoking. It has a great value that we still have it. But I would rather call it athletes, because if you're an athlete, then you're already in the name of the Namsten Pro, Because you don't need to be a gymnast athlete or a snowboard athlete, You're just an athlete who has cleared the code. So I think it's really about the name that sounds better than a gymnast athlete. I think it sounds better to call it athletes, but I also signal through rudimentary terms that we go into more professional direction.
Speaker 2:Yes, and then it's a tendency that it's a snowboard trick. Yes, exactly. A flip skateboard boom, and I'm kind of a freestyler, that's the music there.
Speaker 1:I went straight to Spotify and searched Faceoff and found their playlist. There's a lot. That's what I'm taking in. That's cool.
Speaker 2:We have a tradition, after all, to have live music for our concerts or for our conferences. It started as a. It was Corona year. We were just about to be locked down and the one king was out of the house. I thought we'll simply have to give them an extra gift, because they are just heroes, they people who bought tickets. So it was the first year that they were 21, 21 years old, in a small area, you know. We heard from Benjamin Havre and Ice Cat yes To come. So the whole show started with the scene being black and then Ice Cat comes up to the stage and there's no one to blame. He just comes and says he's just a mock. Like literally a mock, just a mock.
Speaker 2:And then Benjamin Havre at that point. It wasn't long after he broke up with Benelle and he had probably come to his first album to shoot at that point and he was just shit in the film. And then we have this 12 minute discipline called Countdown, where Benelle is just breaking his leg. Benjamin Havre has broken his leg so we have to build a podium at 1 meter with a tube, because he runs around with his huge stools. He can't walk around, he has to jump in front of this. But then he comes in and then he just starts shooting a 12 minute concert. So you go to a concert, to a gymnastics event. It just goes up in a big circle and you're like fuck, this can't be happening and you have to take 2 meters and mix them together. It's not because it's new that there's live music in the gymnastics, but there's no one who has been in my home before to such a concert.
Speaker 1:No, it's an element of surprise. Yes, exactly, but all of that, it's so new hammering the sword and I think I've done it in hundreds and I can't imagine that. They're just a group of drinks sitting down on their little counter and wondering okay, how do we do this? Wille.
Speaker 2:Exactly. I know it's very fun when you ask me where it comes from, because for me it's all about the technique and the big screen and the live stream and I control all our social channels and clips most of our movies and stuff like that. I just think I can do whatever. I want and I can't accept that it can't be done.
Speaker 1:We live in a little bit of a remote country where you're like maybe we should go there, and it's not because there's 4 of us there.
Speaker 2:No, it's not possible.
Speaker 1:I think it's the only way to do that, to say, okay, how high can we put the? Child and how will he get there?
Speaker 2:So it's very personal, and it's also the other people at the building. So we're sad to do the same thing twice, right? So we've done that. What's next? Okay, it's going to be Wille. Yes, how do we do that? Okay, we're not just going to go and fight giga-sized production, beat it all up to this point. Let's do it, let's go. How do we do that? We don't know, but we'll find out that out when we're done.
Speaker 2:So there's just an in-built creation to press at least to press my own limits. And then I tend to do a lot of things and do a lot of things. Live, because you just get a goal one by one, here and below, right now, how good were you? So good, okay, check, am I satisfied? It's good that you were satisfied, but I wasn't satisfied. So the child is getting higher and higher because we can do I know we can do better, but we're going to develop a new scoreboard system that animates and gives you even more information. So when you're sitting there, you can press a button and then just say if this athlete is going to win this discipline, he's going to score this score, now that he automatically just runs out and can give you, as a public more information that can make the story about this athlete even more exciting. Okay, but he's going to score 7.4 on this spring. To win Press a button, then you're ready to go.
Speaker 1:Okay, and that's what storytelling is about Exactly that's the storytelling element in the North Kong language. Who do you think is the creative engine of this?
Speaker 2:course, we're sitting in three different places Skanderborg, svendborg, kømhavn. That's not sure. No, I'm sitting here and Jesper is in Svendborg and Mathias is in Kømhavn and has a few people sitting everywhere. I think we're all creative, just to be our area.
Speaker 1:When I see how they build their ideas, their strategies and how they're put together. It's super creative. And that's when you start to think how we're going to get a storyline, how we're going to get some storytelling into this. Okay, that's going to be. I'm writing a book about Denmark's radio with an idea for a TV show and it just got leaked down. Which one was it? Because it was many years ago and it wasn't a good idea. I tried and I haven't done anything about it and I haven't gotten any feedback. And then I wrote a lot of feedback and he said what TV shows can do if there's a consequence, if you don't do this, then it happens. Okay, so I can't just I can't just give a flyer around the world and then I can take people to tell a story. It's too boring.
Speaker 1:There's no consequence, and what happens is that this person has to get this point or else. Exactly, and it creates a tension curve. It's a. It's a maintenance value, just an extra.
Speaker 2:And then we also I have a lot of technical access to it and I'm really inspired by Formlet. Okay, how is that? And it's maybe I have a question.
Speaker 1:I have made Formlet a lot of times, but I'm so tired of it I have to stop. It's okay, I'm fine.
Speaker 2:I have Formlet. I have a night in the afternoon, no, but what Formlet can do is that they have. It's relatively impressive.
Speaker 1:It is actually, but it's not.
Speaker 2:It's not because Look at what they get out of it, formlet. When you look at a TV show we're going to, it's so exciting. And then there's just Hamilton towards Norris. You can just see the distance and we're down to a thousandth of a part and you're like, okay, shit, what the? The first thing is how do they paint it? How can they paint it as? 0.465 distance and it's updated all the time. It can be good they just prank me? I don't think they do.
Speaker 1:They're just trying to see how it looks.
Speaker 2:I have to find out. How is the graphics so nice? How do they animate it? You get fed with data.
Speaker 1:You get fed with data all the time.
Speaker 2:And it's like, okay, if I'm supposed to feed our data. So you feel like there's a telescope. There's no idea about the geometry. What do you need for that? For example, do you need to know what's the average score for you as an athlete when we get to the conclusion? You need to know he's going to score 7.4 for the wind. You also need to know what's the average score in the whole conference. You also need to know what's his failure or what's his success percentage, because then you can sit there and make your own story.
Speaker 2:If Ethan is going to score 7.4 for the snow, he's going to score 8.0 in the whole conference and he's got 95% of all his points, Then you can figure it out. There's a big sense of his friends or his scores over 7.4 right now. Then we don't need to tell more, because then you just have to make your own story and you just have to figure it out. But you just have to wait and you get more and more excited and then you tell your friend what do you think he's doing? If he knows about the geometry, he's going to score 7.4. And then you start to get excited.
Speaker 1:But then the sense of his doing it and the excitement you get more and more excited. It's brilliant, Because it's also a bit of a f***ing thing to do, and then you just have to wait for the score to score 8.
Speaker 2:And then you can score 25.
Speaker 1:And then you score 8. It's really something I've never thought about. If you don't know anything about it, then it's f***ing awesome, but if you know something about it, then it's the most exciting, and that's because you get fed up by the data. You get overused by the data With the data.
Speaker 2:That's what we need? Next, we need to have microphones on some of our satellites. But it's about creating two experiences, because the one experience is the halve you get. And then there's our broadcast behind or under God.
Speaker 1:Yes, sometimes when you're on live you might not be that much, but if you're on live stream it's like if you're watching and you're getting a microphone they can't hear you in the halve.
Speaker 2:But we live. We would like to have our broadcast to some.
Speaker 2:Because we have to have as many income opportunities as possible in the bixters as possible. If the sponsors come and find out about the crisis, the sponsors will run away and then our community coverage or our event shouldn't go in the wrong direction. We should take care of the money and the other places. If one part of the bixters collapses for one reason, we should take care of the coverage via the others, Of course. On another plus but it's about the broadcast but production quality should be higher. It's also now, but it can't get better.
Speaker 1:And that's what happens. It will always get better. Because it is higher now and it is not easy to do gymnastics and not look at it if you don't know what it is. And I really think that I have experienced and it has been really hard for me. I am so excited about the gymnastics this year and it has been. When you have talked to people who don't do gymnastics, they are like I want to understand and it's like there is a translator on it.
Speaker 1:Because it amplifies everything that happens in the hall To these springs here. What made you proud of gymnastics? It's a good question. I searched for the 10th world cup and didn't come with me. And I had.
Speaker 1:Yes, that was it. Yes, we just came to the last round last night and then it was called. I was going to travel and I, if I am going to try this world cup, then it has to be now, because my tattoo career is starting to get stronger and I had already a lot of travel opportunities. But I was when I was in the world cup. I never said that I was going to watch the 9th world cup, I was just loved. That's what I'm going to watch. It was the coolest thing I have ever seen. I searched for the 10th cup and when I was about to Then I tried a season more where I was a bit half-hearted.
Speaker 1:I have already started to travel a bit more with my work and I can feel that I don't really have the attention on gymnastics as I actually need it, and then I thought I would have been better than I am now Real gymnastic. I would have just stopped and then I just pulled the stick and I think it was also very cool that if I had to get wet but also travel and all that, I wouldn't be able to keep my level and then I would feel that I am getting worse and worse and the damage would probably start to come between the two of us, and I don't want to remember my gymnastics time, so I just pulled the stick right on top.
Speaker 2:And it's very fun to say that I hold number 9. Because holding number 9 is what Jesper travels with. Was it that it was also a kickstarter? But it was there that the idea of Project Jump-Off Out of Flight was like.
Speaker 1:It's fun. Now we're doing full circle. Yes, we are. It was a bit of a shock. What is it now?
Speaker 2:It's a good question.
Speaker 1:But the tears and the scars were so sad and they had that X. I can remember it so clearly, exactly, okay, full circle, you have created a world-famous tattoo career.
Speaker 2:to see holding number 9. And not to hold number 10. Face-off started at holding number 9. Yes, but in any case it was the idea.
Speaker 1:That was yes, I can remember it clearly or I just thought that I simply wasn't into dancing.
Speaker 2:I have always been a person in a training gym. I have beaten my feet a few times because I've been so bad at it. When you get a hard-mode and you beat me up and I just love to train. I don't know how to dance, I don't know how to dance, I just want to stand in the training room and just train for myself. I don't train to do the show, it's just so cool to do it three times a week?
Speaker 2:Yes, it's just so cool. I don't need to do it before everyone else. I'm not good enough to do what they're doing now, but I've always had a training vibe. I think it's been super cool.
Speaker 1:Yes, it is, but I can remember that that hold got me to think that if it's like that, I would like to be there. I would like to be there. And the light for me was that holding 10 was more than just nothing for me, because it was an experimented gymnastics and of course, it was also in its place because I thought I would like to go out and bridge some boundaries or something and I would like to be there. So it was really really nice. I also had gone to Vibor to hold in five years and it was always experimental and I was so tired of it Because we always had to be as different as the others. And then you came down and saw the Olo.
Speaker 1:Rupp's Elite Hold and they made the best Danish classical gymnastics and I was like, oh my god, I want it. I don't give a shit about the weird costumes, I don't give a shit, I want to do that. But it was really hard to get over the Olo Rupp hold. I got it on a Olo Rupp hold, but everything happens a little bit at a time, and it's even very happy. What do you think?
Speaker 2:About five years.
Speaker 1:I mean now you should hear me. I was very excited to talk about this. Right now I'm starting to sign up for a program that I really like, for a program I like to do, and it's just to be on YouTube. I could think about it and talk about it in Danish. Then we go to Toborghen, we talk about fishing, we spend the whole day together Out on the coast and all that, and then I have to gather information about him, then I have to make a text message for him and I have to tell him his story With me as a media, but on a text message, and then I can go to him and go out in the little forgotten things, like he is standing in the meadow or he is standing out on the fishing boat. And catching all our fish.
Speaker 1:Because I'm also very, very much in charge of this storytelling and I think it's been very uninteresting to make tattoos.
Speaker 1:Is there anything else. But a lot of people make tattoos and something else and in many, many years I've just made tattoos Because they're awesome and I think it's just very dumb and it doesn't tell me anything anymore. I think it's boring. So I'm very much here after finding substance and something that I can be sure of, and also the way it works with the artist, where I have to talk to them but through the work that I can, and it's a good dance. It's a pretty good dance with his artist Because they're not so visual in their heads Of good reason, and that's me.
Speaker 1:So I have to find out what they're saying and what they want to do, and maybe they don't want to, even though they say they want to do that. And then out of that information I pull out that I should create a visual representation, that I should create a feeling in them that they don't know what they're after and that symbiosis is super interesting and I think that's what I can tell some great stories about. So that's what I want to find some money for. It's very fun.
Speaker 2:That's very cool. It's a question of whether they know what they're missing. But they do. They can't just put their hands on it Exactly or draw it or tell it.
Speaker 1:It's really time when my wife comes up to my consultation Before we book a time for them and then she says I can't draw, I'm not creative. No, no, no, you just have to give me all the ingredients, then I'll just have to make the right one. So just give me everything you have, then I'll just have to quote it, and I think that's. There are many who think they should come into a consultation with the idea or with the things I've done.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, that's me, I'm just going to make it, but you can do that too, because you're yourself. There are many other consultations. I can't say that they're the consultations I've been to.
Speaker 1:There are many who are in the old school.
Speaker 2:You can choose between these four, but that wasn't what I wanted Exactly.
Speaker 1:And it actually comes from my responsibility to be on the Royal Art Academy for Design in Copenhagen and when they got their first child, my first child, I was so worried about being in Copenhagen I could, because I wanted to be like he should know that I was from the start, so I was really close to work. I worked for a month and then I was always out at school, out at the Royal Art Academy, out at Oberand, and it was really cool and then I was out at the school and then I was. Over the years I saw how his journey was from being a designer to being a designer and when you get to see some of the projects they've done, I just felt so dumb.
Speaker 1:I was like what? I'm just so creative. I'm just so creative. They make furniture with history. There are things about all the edges and all the lines, and I felt like I couldn't be satisfied with just making tattoos and painting. They have to be one another and that's what I'm trying to do. And now I can do that, and I can do that with my wife, but I can't think of showing it to you, because I think that if I make a show where I'm diving into something related to art, like a fish, I can be a product that shows what I can do, but, most importantly, his story, and that's what I'm trying to do. So that's one of the things I'm trying to do. We're talking about the microphones.
Speaker 3:I can tell you something else. I'm happy to hear that.
Speaker 1:So about five years ago. I've been living in the USA for three months now and I'm trying to do that and I'm freeing my love for summer For luck, thank you. So I'm probably going to Keep it a little tight. Keep it a little tight. Where are you for five?
Speaker 2:years. Oh yes, I have no idea. I hope I'm sitting on Facebook once a month when I'm drinking fat and then I see that this show is just so much fun and then I can go up in the VIP Take some food Cold feet. Then I can talk to some people and then I can just go out and clap my. The most popular people in the school are saying, fuck, a great production, cool show. The coolest thing about it is See like three weeks in Dubai To the same show. Oh, yes, dubai.
Speaker 1:It's got to be there. Do you have an admission board or where there are some seibles or something From Dubai? No, just in general. Do you have any videos for Facebook?
Speaker 2:Yes, we just have really drawn them. It's like, yeah, so vision doesn't fit. We're making a Facebook leak. Yes, in 25. What does that mean? It means taking a BAA. You have Eastern and Western Conference. They meet every weekend. The best things go on until the final in the box. Okay.
Speaker 2:So we start with a Facebook leak where our hold can come out, and in a deeper way, several times a year, to these qualifiers in Denmark, norway, sweden, portugal, england, us, where we just land our hands on and see the best two hold from each group game, each one, I'd say, to the most important one, to the wildest final ever.
Speaker 1:Oh that's cool. How is it that you really have? I've seen everything well and thoroughly here in Denmark and you can fill the box now hopefully that it can, of course, but to say that we could at least fill the box without any problems in the last few years. How is it like this? Well, we'll try right away. Who do you call?
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's a really good question. But we have really good friends out in the north through the Gymnastics when there are really many Norwegian holders who take me to training camps, and Team Gym E-M has been a really good way to meet each other and get friends. So the Norwegian holders have been right to find good work partners really hard to find. Okay. So we've been up in the last in 22 and 23. And are going to be up again in 24. But we still have to go. There are many holders who have to sell before they give economic good meaning and be up there.
Speaker 1:Is there not a culture for business gymnastics at home, where there is a person we have to go and see gymnastics? There are a lot of finders in the field of see gymnastics.
Speaker 2:I think we do it in Team Gym. But I think our biggest challenge is to get the message out to the right people. We don't live to make an announcement in Norway or how the fan does it, and when the budget goes up, doesn't it go up? Where do you find 100,000 to 80,000?
Speaker 1:There are just the buttons, that's good.
Speaker 2:We also have a dream of entering Artistic Gymnastics or the Rally Gymnastics, because there is a huge market this type of gymnastics. You have been diving in and I have been diving only in Norway.
Speaker 1:That's what I meant.
Speaker 2:It's not in the USA, it's not in Southern Europe, it's just started.
Speaker 1:I will point out the goals, because Ramey is an American market and the production has been the same. It's going right through. They love something like that Exactly.
Speaker 2:We have been on our way to the USA a couple of times, to America's Got Talent. We were invited to the USA's Got Talent Extreme the first year. We were invited to the USA and we had a lot of things to say. We had a lot of things to do. It was pretty fast that we were going to get there. So we had to do our work. We had to get there. We didn't have the time to get there, we had to go home. Oh, fuck.
Speaker 2:That's probably the most important thing to do in the USA.
Speaker 1:I remember hearing about that, but what did you do?
Speaker 2:I don't know. I think it's because you can make money. I wasn't involved in the process of the search of the work, but I know you have to because you have the opportunity to make money and the work we have to do. You have to have a special form of money that you can get. It takes a little longer.
Speaker 1:Yes, it does the O1.
Speaker 2:Yes, sure, and we didn't get that, we did.
Speaker 1:But not in.
Speaker 2:Maltsdam Day after. No, we were supposed to travel and you ignored it. The scientists were in USA, so they had to just send us home Fucking bio-cratae. So we have to go to the USA because it could be really cool to do something there, but also because if you can sell 50,000 tickets in a different arena, then try to think about what show you can do Now. Prostin, how high flames can you get?
Speaker 1:I'm glad it's going to be something else I can say.
Speaker 2:But the ring is disgusting. I don't know what I'm saying, but there is at least. I think our goal is to create a really cool gymnastic world, both in Nordic gymnastics as we know it, but also in international gymnastics and put this face-off on the ground. Gigantic gymnastics yes so big and big, just cold sports, gymnastics, cold sports generally, but they're completely different. I don't know.
Speaker 1:I was in Oregon last year. Where I was in school football College, right, it's like what the fuck is this I'm seeing? Right now?
Speaker 2:It's like it's being sent to the ISPN.
Speaker 1:School football it's like Come on man, huge production. Yes.
Speaker 2:I have to say it has a lot of power on it too.
Speaker 1:Yes but there is also In USA there is a culture for going to see things. We're taking a look at sports when at home there is maybe not as much. Not everyone takes in to see football no, not me. It's disgusting, yes, it's disgusting. It's big but it's a calm fat and I was in SEA GF Brøndby for a while. I was more impressed by the people who were there. They were like, okay, hold on, All the drinks here have the same price. That's disgusting. What about them? I saw them. You heard about that.
Speaker 1:I didn't see them, but it's also on the scale, because you don't have to go to football. It's just exciting to be in a whole field like that In the field stages it can be.
Speaker 2:No, as a fifth year. I just think that I hope that Facebook still lives in the best conditions and has expanded to several countries. We also have taken the same path. The Seidt track has now has been calm, to find people who can take over our job, to understand that we can pull ourselves back and try to. I don't like to develop Facebook, but there's a lot of pressure on it. I could try to experience a Facebook conference as a public, to talk to all the people who want to talk to you, because, as I said before, I was just sitting in a car In an European army behind me producing fire. It was super cool, but I can't talk to anyone. There are 3,000 people coming and I know a lot of them that I really want to talk to.
Speaker 1:I know I was like what the hell are you doing here?
Speaker 2:I was just sitting back and then you get that feeling. I don't know if you know that, but when you have had something you really have worked towards Right after the end, then it just says I can't go back. I can just go home, and then I can sit down, and then it's just empty.
Speaker 1:You get overstimulated. For hours I have to go up.
Speaker 2:So it's like I can't go to January and I have tried. The last time we held Facebook in December 3 times a year and I have tried to go to January and to just work there in January and go back. I can't. I think when we come to January, I just keep my free time, then I travel back with the kids and the wife. Good idea. Yes, there is just empty.
Speaker 1:You know the series called the Olympic Blues, when you talk about the Olympics and they come up on the name of the Olympics and they get depressed Because they have worked up against this event for so long and on the other side there is nothing. It's from 1000% to 0. One day it's the same here.
Speaker 2:It's a huge fan. What do you mean? Why do I sit down? And the worst thing is that we don't have a face-off. We live in this company. Face-off is a company. We have also set up Face-off Media House when we earn money. Our turnover is half Face-off Conquersen On all of the Dance Revenue we get there, and half of it on Media House, which is big film productions, home side solutions, graphical work. We do everything there and they only know that I have done Face-off for you, so they just start in January, new year. So they start, I just sit there.
Speaker 2:I can't go down the hall. I know it's fun.
Speaker 1:We humans have been changed in that way when you have been really hard on the other side Because you can be completely demotivated. I remember that I I had set a goal for myself that I would be able to graduate a very determined degree in New York which was the most prominent, maybe still the most prominent degree in the world. And that was just what I was going to do. And it's impossible to get over it Because you have to, there has to be a green light, you have to get to know each other, you have to be invited and all of that. And suddenly I sat there. It happened so fast it didn't come out of anything. So I was like, ok, I was just coming home from the US and then I was going to go over again. And then I can remember, right after that I was completely stunned in the top Because that was my Holy Grail. With Holy Grail I was coming over. And if you don't see that new goal coming back, then you completely I mean I do that Completely in a way.
Speaker 1:What the hell? What's my formula now? What do I want now?
Speaker 2:It's exactly the same. It's a depressing state. I accepted it, right? No, that's just stupid. No, it's depressing. It's maybe it's not because I'm. It's not a depression you have. You don't have to explain it to them. You have a real depression? No, I don't. It's just that feeling of emptiness, exactly what's my formula now.
Speaker 2:It's also because when I make the big events, I set the expectations for myself I mean extremely high For myself and for them. I don't know if it's extremely high. I try to be realistic about them. I work together, but I also just sit there. I have some demands to be willing to have them and how they should do it, or at least what they're throwing and stuff. But then you've just set the expectations for yourself and at least now, if you haven't failed a lot, then afterwards you just say what's the next step? Should I just sit down and get ready to do the same thing on the other projects that you can't do Also because they're like Backwards.
Speaker 1:Yes just like that Backwards it's like you need to have some creativity again.
Speaker 2:It's something to do with it.
Speaker 1:You know you need to be up in momentum In a way. What I found out was that I should set a new goal. I should set a goal that I didn't handle myself. And then I thought, what should I do? I should handle learning. And then it all started with a learning program, a whole exhibition platform we've made the studio that I work with. It was mega cool, and then I could look at myself and try to focus on others.
Speaker 1:I find that a lot of pleasure and that sounds cool. Absolutely, it was just Because I could continue, and then you just sit there and say, well, how high are the flames?
Speaker 2:Exactly. Should it not be the pyro this time? Yes, it will be. The challenge is that, when it's just so, we only think once a year. That's why we're up to our qualifications for big arena shows, because they're so willing to feel so. There's a big event coming up again and it's more about trying to share our workload all year long. Keep the conferences all year long.
Speaker 2:And not just the one or the one after the year. Now we're running the second November, the ninth November, the ninth December. Okay, the arena set up all together. So the Norwegian-Swedish boxing the World Cup in four hours, Set it up.
Speaker 1:Ah, five hours. Oh my goodness. What's the focus on production? Are the cars running around or is it being rented out? Is it being rented out in a single place? Is it being rented out in a single arena or is it being rented out in a single place?
Speaker 2:We have a car that runs all the time Between each other, but the sound is too expensive and the fructation In relation to what it costs to rent it locally. Right now we're going to hear about how big the production is. But we have some really good partner in Denmark. But, as they say, transport costs twice as much as rent. Okay, that doesn't give any meaning Just because they have to sit on a truck and drive it, or on a deltentruck, a less-bicycle, and then a little teoslo, it's just hammered and get it in there.
Speaker 1:There was a lot of luxury stuff there, man, jesus Christ, yes, fuck, that was cool. Well, that's not the point of having just been fully-circled with Holny with the National Dennis Performance Team, who has just blown away a lot of inspiration. In all possible different ways. Yes, you have to thank them for this talk. I have been very close to all the 10,000 questions I had after their main event. I have probably 10,000 questions after I have seen it in boxing Is there a place in VIP section for you.
Speaker 1:It is. I'm holding up on that. Out of the question. Cool. Thank you for being here. It was fun. Thank you very much. Okay, bye, bye. Thank you for being here. Thank you.