Planetary Protection and Helping Others Find Their Strength with Dr. Moogega Cooper

Dr. Moogega Cooper
In this episode, Brad & Stephanie chat with a good friend, "Dr. Moo", about being a space janitor, givingStrength to other people, and finding your own support system.

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Stephanie: @giveasweat
Brad: @HiitFlexAndChill
@giveStrength

Transcript

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My most fulfilling moments is when I give strength other people and empower them to be the best that they are with their skills. So, yeah, just many. I have many memories where I basically promote my team members and and it just makes me happy when they shine.

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Welcome to Episode two

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of the Give Strength Podcast.

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Yes, Episode two, where we interviewed Dr Moo Goo Gai Cooper, a planetary protection engineer and also one of the kind ist people we've ever met. You may notice that the audio in these first few episodes does not quite match the audio you're hearing right now. And that's because

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we love jumping into things. And when we recorded the first few episodes, we didn't have any equipment. Zero equipment. But we've upgraded since.

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So with that, we bring you Episode two with Dr Mooch A Gay Cooper.

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After spending years growing a business rooted in a mission of giving back, Brad and Stephanie are here to give strength Thio all areas of your life get ready to hear from experts in every field, from finance and fitness to mindset, relationships and entrepreneurship. This is the gift strength podcast. All

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right, so We

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are here today with Doctor Mu J. Cooper Moo Goo Gai Cooper. Thank

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you for joining us, won't you? For having

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me, ref. Une huh? Look pretty quickly that Doctor Mu is actually good friend of ours. So we'll try and ask her lots of questions that we already know the answers to. But we brought her on because we think she provides a lot of value. She's one of our favorite humans on earth. She's incredibly talented, intelligent, has an incredible work ethic, A

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really cool job. So we've got three questions

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where you just did kick it off. First of all, what do you do? So I am a scientist that works for an aerospace organization. And basically my goal is to make sure we don't contaminate places, whether it be planets or asteroids on that. We're trying to investigate insurgency. Did life exist in that world or not? So you have to keep space clean. Yes, that's right. The great way to summarize

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it. It used

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to really simple. If you clean

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your face, your hands, your janitor, guess there have been many times audience that I've asked, knew how she does her job and she just kind of smiles and giggles because it's very complicated.

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I think I stopped asking like five years ago. Now I just go. Oh, yeah, she does that thing,

spk_3:   2:55
but it's so It's very simple,

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though. I mean, if you look at the tools that we use, it's the same thing. But anybody in here in the cleaning industry uses right. We have wipes other people. Some people use Clorox wipes. We have very fancy non shedding wise, but it's still a darn wife. Uh, you know, we clean in a similar way, although it's been backed by scientific process used to show that this is the most efficient way of wiping without rubbing contaminants around. Bradley and move met as personal trainer and client initially. And what

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did you talk about

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her Matt Wiping technique.

spk_2:   3:32
Oh, man, she's gonna get mad at me. I'm gonna mess it up. Lateral wiping when you wipe the mat can do circles because then you just spread the stuff around. It's unilateral life in technique.

spk_0:   3:45
We've known each other for almost 10 years, and if that's the only thing that sticks, I'm cool with

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that. You're not up

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there wiping straight line straight line

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passed over. There's the values awesome. Let's hop on to our second question. Do you have a favorite book podcast Anything right now or something from your past? Anything that's left a lot of value for you. Yeah, I remember. See, what is the name of the book? It's It's my Octavia Butler. Basically any other books? Octavia Butler is a famous African American author, and she wrote a lot about a dystopian future. Um, and how valuable things like water waas on it really brought the human element out of it, where in the future it doesn't matter how rich you are. There are basic necessities and every single human needs, like water and uncertain supplies that it You just have to do a good job in conserving your environment and being a good person because we all have basic level. These and we need to preserve it for one another. And I feel like that kind of message feels very true right now. We're recording this while you're hunkered in Florida and were hunkered in Los Angeles during the, uh, coded 19 outbreak. So we're beginning to see what humans actually need right now. I think it's interesting, right? See, kind of the worst of humans not to bring it to the bad side. I'm glad he focused on the positive side, but people dumping stocks and buying and trying to monetize this disaster. And I hope they are the minority and that the majority are the great positive stories of people really helping each other out. Yeah, it's It's definitely shown the dichotomy of how people respond in a situation like this, and it's been very eye opening. I'm trying to focus on the good parts of it and the good humans that are stepping up. But there's definitely a lot of the other side happening. Yeah, if only we could just, you know, give strength. There's our sound. All right. Speaking of giving strength, our final question, uh, for the time being is

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I don't think this is our final close. It's our

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final interest. You okay? This

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is our intro question Final one. I don't want to ask her now, because now there's all this buildup for the final one.

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No, right. What the time

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in recent memory that you gave strength to yourself or someone else. Who? Um Yeah. The first thing that comes to mind, which is not always the best, but okay, let's go with it. I have ah team of people at my particular job, and my favorite thing is empowering them. I like to put as much as I start that sentence with I and me. And this is whatever, um, I might most fulfilling moments is when I give strength other people and empower them to be the best they are with their skills. So yeah, just many. I have many memories where I basically promote my team members and and it just makes me happy when they shine. Yes, I feel like some people live in a zero sum world where they feel like adding to someone else that shined takes away from theirs. And, yeah, it's so untrue. I feel like the not even feel like I've seen it play out in real life that the more we add value to people and help them believe that they are the greatest that they could be, the more they level up, the more we level up, the more it just raises everyone up way that

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bright like a diamond.

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How many

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were Indian? Do you need it to be for you. But you're not the paper. I know.

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I'm right. Like something way could just say right like a diamond.

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There you

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go. That a song? You don't

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sing it. I think it's okay.

spk_2:   7:50
Yeah, we're OK. She's not coming after us here. All right? No. So I've known you forever and do your science thing, which is great. Um, but really, the generosity part is what I want to talk about because you're probably, like the most generous person, or at least in, like, the top

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five. So I want

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to kind of talk a little bit about, like, how that all started. Like, Why do you feel like you're so generous?

spk_3:   8:21
Um, I think it's a cultural

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thing. And growing up just in any, at least I could speak from the Asian household side. And my mom is Korean. My step Mom's Filipino. And the common thread between the two of them is whatever we would have people over you would bring shame upon your family. If you run out of food, you have way too much food. And that's just the baseline. The standard that was set up to behave as you interact with your community, your family. You have to provide what you can to make them feel welcome. And at home.

spk_2:   8:54
So just a little side note. So people understand how seriously you take that and how crazy it gets is. I got married almost two years ago and moves like for my for my wedding gift to you guys. I want to provide alcohol for your wedding, which is huge, amazing, crazy, generous. And I was like, Okay, that's great, Thank you. Let's sit down and talk about what that looks like. And you came with this, like spread she of like, drinks versus guests. And how many Jenks and you were trying to What was it? It was somewhere in like a nine or 10 drinks her guests, cause you're like what? We don't want to run out. And I was like nine or 10 drinks per guest. That's not not running out. That's like everyone's going to the hospital after something with around Children coming to and those were in the total count, nine drinks per child at that point. So

spk_3:   9:56
I think we're in the middle of the boom. Mic is looking drunk. E. I

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don't even know where to go anymore, even over the

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O. Okay, I feel like we've

spk_0:   10:08
touched on that. You have a crazy, cool job that you are very generous and that maybe stems from childhood.

spk_3:   10:16
So I know a lot of people that want that right away. This all about

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me. Speaking of generosity, So I've been living in Florida for like, two months. Feels like forever. And thankfully, I've had 100 times less bug bites. Thank to the thanks to the care package you all made for me. Vegan non are harming. Also lissome bug repellents and anti itch spray into each creams. When Moon moved to Florida were very sad to see her go. And we gave her a care package that was half sincere. And after the protector from whatever Florida throws out, because I don't know what happened in Florida, I have just like Florida ran. So that's right. I've seen the headlines of Lord a man, so we were a little concerned for her well being. But it seems like you you look alive and well. Yeah,

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Lord a man,

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Florida man you've never seen know

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what is Florida, man?

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So they're now a multitude of articles that start like Florida, man, I don't know. Rides alligator into street or

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Florida, man, We're just while like, the wildest things

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happened in Florida. So now you gotta look up. Hash tag, Florida man.

spk_3:   11:29
Oh, no. Yeah, Like I was saying,

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you know, you have this really cool job that we barely scratched the surface of, um, you have are incredibly generous person. And that's why we've been very happy to have

spk_2:   11:45
you in our life for

spk_0:   11:46
yours. Um, but I'd love to talk more about you know, some your accomplishments, things you've done like you've been on the bill. Nice saves the world. Is that the title of the show on Netflix? And you have a show on YouTube? Yeah, because bass pro space you were on King of the Nerds. You were on how the universe works. And most recently, your attention, please. On Hu Lu. How have all those seem things come about? How have you gotten your name and voice out there, And why is that important for you to do that? Yeah, One thing led to another. Um, I've always had a passion for teaching and science outreach, and one day I did any of actually, my friend recommended that I do a competition about finding the next call say again. And because I did that particular competition, my name was funneled in for a casting call for King of the Nerds and King of the Nerds really allow my name to be circulated to the right people. Once I finish with King of the Nerds, there was a a Discovery Channel show that some young king of the nerds And they said, Hey, you should be a talking head for our show. So it kind of really stemmed from one decision. Uh, it may be lucky, and I will say that I attended your taping of the Kelly Collection show and I got to hang out backstage because move Got those hook ups. By the way, I could not do the Kelly Clarkson show without you. I had laryngitis from yelling too much in the United Kingdom when I was there before Corona virus front there and without your throat spray, I would not be able to talk without coughing uncontrollably and being by how Howie Mandel he would have banned from the show. So I owe that show to you specifically you'll notice a theme in everything moves does that. She, uh, generally just tries to put her accomplishments on other people.

spk_3:   13:43
So Okay, that's I think the car is all because of you. I still recall speaking to the producers of

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the Kelly Clarkson Show to get her on, but, you know, but Wilden up here to speak to news generosity. She brought, uh, like, presence for the whole cast and crew of the show. So she team bearing awesome space related presence, which I took some of I still the color changing pencil with temperance

spk_3:   14:15
took does not go general counsel just for ah, Well, so, yeah, you've been

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on all of these things. You were on the Freakonomics podcast. Where you happened to win in the audience voting section against one of my favorite people people mayor Earth. Any of Los Angeles direct husband tracked. Eric are very, very people were listening. No, he's married and his wife seems like a great person. And

spk_2:   14:43
but a piece your future ex husband, cause I'm the current husband. So does that mean like way divorce? Marry him and the new divorce him.

spk_3:   14:52
I'll come back when we come back. Yeah, likely?

spk_2:   14:56
A little bit.

spk_0:   14:56
Yeah. Gotta keep my options open. What

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are you

spk_0:   15:01
working on currently? Right now I know you're working on a big project Re live to talk about. Yeah, I'm working on a particular mission that's going to be launching in a few months. So I'm excited about that's taking up all my time on after that. I'm just going to reassess where I stand and see what I want to do for the next 5 to 7 years. That's kind of the life cycle of the projects that I work on. Well, I'm excited for the future. Yeah. Okay, let's connect the dots a little bit. So you are now keeping space clean. You now professional space janitor. Um, how did you get to that point? What schooling did you know? You know, from when you were younger that you wanted to get here. How did that all happen? Yeah, I knew since I was a little kid that I wanted to work in in space and understand how our universe works and and understand the physics portion of it on a kind of evolved planetary protection. So I started as an intern on NASA. Langley when I was 17 years old. That was my first job as an undergrad. Actually, my second job is under grab. The first job was data analysis. Um, just comparing data from the ground based instruments compared to satellite data. Also looked at the data. So I've kind of been in that NASA pipeline for a long time. Just er yeah, trying to You're out the world. You were eyes where I be stand in the grand scheme of things. So, yeah, I did my undergrad at Hampton University and hbcu on my master's and PhD at Drexel University in Philadelphia On it just cascaded from there. Speaking of an HBCU, a historically black college or university, we had conversations in the past that you don't see a lot of women of color or, well, women in general and then specifically women of color in science and math. And and I know that you do some outreach with that going elementary schools and such You speak on what You know what you're doing. Yeah. So, thankfully, there's been a resurgence, especially on Twitter of really calling attention to women in science and especially women of color on in particular African American women. There are a lot of us out there, but we're slowly connecting the dots. So it seems like they were you not to not too long ago, but slowly. We're building this network of kind of highlighting each other. So as I go around different universities and middle schools, my goal is to make sure that light bulb is there for girls and especially African American girls, so that they know this is a possibility. This is something I could do. I don't want to convert 100% of the people that I talk to you to be a scientist or engineer. I just want them to know that that is an option for them in her life on and they have a choice.

spk_3:   17:54
What wisdom

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would you give? Like a younger African American girl who's thinking about something in the science field?

spk_0:   18:05
Yeah, I would say to pursue your dream. And don't worry about failure. Um, at least in my experience, growing up, there was a lot of you gotta listen to your elders, Whoever's in charge, listen to them and there's there's an invert aversion to failure. And one thing that I noticed as a scientist is no. If you want to be successful scientists Yes, of course, respect the people who are subject matter experts but also need to come in form your own opinion. It's okay to say no, it's okay to be contradictory as long as you have facts and data behind you. Um, so I would say Have a voice and don't feel bad about standing up for your opinion, which I as, ah woman in business, love to hear. I've definitely been in situations where I feel like my opinion is maybe not respected as Muchas even Brad's in a in a meeting. But I feel like it's important for us and more important for people coming after us that we continue to do that. We continue Thio, voice our opinions, and I'm not. I'm not defending scientific hypotheses or anything. I'm usually just trying to negotiate a contract, but I appreciate women like you that are out there saying what you want to

spk_2:   19:17
say. So I am what you wanna slow

spk_0:   19:20
trying, choosing, choosing my battles? Let's say true, we all got a kick that door open, or at least put a Tollan so that it'll be easier for someone else in the future. Absolutely. Another thing I've always respected about you and loved about you is that while you are incredibly intelligent, um, you graduated at 16.

spk_3:   19:40
Dumb stuff, I question was going while you are in college is, however, you clearly

spk_0:   19:54
value intelligence and hard work and academics. Um, but you also you were at the Grammys and you were shouting out some model. And you have a lot of people in your life that are not in science and oh, yeah, you tended to celebrate humans that are doing things. Yeah, One of my proudest moments eyes really watching. You two really believe the establishment, right? I will name the establishment, but But, you know, you threw up your middle finger to be a sandwich. Friend said I could do this better. I can not only work and have an income, but I can also give back charitably two different communities. Indifference. Oh, amazing charities. And the fact that you all did that. I mean, I had nothing to do with that, obviously, but just watching you do it, it's just really made my heart soul 10 times. So she's I love. I love things like that and appreciate it. No matter what the discipline, you are definitely just a celebrator of people doing things which is really exciting. And, like you said, we need more that we need to just celebrate people in their successes and their efforts and keep building everybody up. And it's important for everybody to have their network of people that celebrate each other, especially if you're in an office environment. There's a lot of people who are biased or may give you advice. That is a little bit, um, self. It's selfish in a way on. It's just good to have somebody that is unbiased that will say, You know what? This is what you should do or you go Are you just celebrate you without the bias of having some ulterior motive?

spk_2:   21:35
And how would you suggest someone build like that tribe? If they're in that scenario where they're in the office and everybody's biased or not, Ford has. How would someone branch out and start creating that community?

spk_3:   21:50
Yeah, some of the

spk_0:   21:51
ways I've done it personally is having hot. We use that I care about, and in having those hobbies, you find other people who have shared that interest or share the drive for excellence. Um, for example, triathletes. I've started doing the whole trap on training, and that's one of the things that Brad help significantly with. But I also join the group of tri athletes that are a mix of NBC ex executives and Disney ex executives. And I didn't pick it because they had executives, right? I mean, they just happen to have them there. And so you just never know who you meet, and as long as you expand your hobbies, that way you can meet other people with shared interests. It'll happen naturally

spk_2:   22:34
for our parents that are listening, and they have kids that might want to be involved in science or these kind of programs are. The resource is that you would recommend that they can go look into to find local things for their kids.

spk_0:   22:48
Yeah, so as far as things that parents can do, there are many websites to include NASA's website. They have educated, they have educational outreach tools. One of the tools, or one of the things that I used when I talked to a large group of middle school and elementary school kids, is I had them build rockets. It's all principle on NASA's website. You can print. It has instructions that has a whole science behind how the Rockets are launched. And it works really, really well on. The kids went home and shared their interests of their parents, and the parents couldn't do the same thing. There's a ton of lesson plans there. Um, yeah, that's actually the same lesson plan that I use for the Kelly Clarkson shows.

spk_2:   23:30
I feel like we should build a rocket today.

spk_0:   23:32
They did not listen well when she was teaching them

spk_3:   23:35
e assed watching. Thank you guys. She's trying todo, uh, try. You know, they

spk_0:   23:45
made it very, very exciting to watch.

spk_2:   23:48
And then what are some of your favorite ways to give back?

spk_0:   23:52
Move the ways to give back? I would say, Yeah, the outreach is my favorite way to get back, talking to kids and giving back in dreams and hopes charitably on. There were these two people that have this gift strength organization that, but always opens my eyes. Thio local, um, local charities. That's the way I told local charities that give Lucy kids or provide positive body image is too young. Girls and so there. Times where I don't have all the answers. But I tend to lean on different friends to have suggestions. Like YouTube. You used guys

spk_3:   24:37
disguise how many we should do. Like

spk_0:   24:41
a tally count of how many times mood

spk_2:   24:42
turns us around like a drinking game. Turn it around. I guess that's another drink.

spk_0:   24:52
Are. Well, that's John, Miss. Very intelligent. Dr Cooper. Uh,

spk_3:   25:00
House parties you've had. I will say that move has this awesome balance of super academic. Super awesome. Very

spk_0:   25:13
intelligent, Very hard working on dhe. She also made me drink vodka out of a giant spoon at her house once so that Brad gave me

spk_2:   25:23
mother right back around. Well, sister well, you've been interviewed a bunch of times. A bunch of different places, TV, radio podcast. Is there anything that you've always wanted to share with people that hasn't been asked?

spk_0:   25:43
Yeah, um, a lot of people point out that I am very cheerful and optimistic, and no one has that actually asked why most people just assume I'm on

spk_2:   25:53
some sort of

spk_3:   25:53
drug, which I'm not. I mean, you owned science, I e, but I wish more people can ask questions about why I'm so happy,

spk_0:   26:09
because the answer is not because I had a perfect upbringing, but I think anything that draws people's attention to paying attention to the little things being grateful for for things like waking up for those people that actually asked, I would say things like, Well, I woke up this morning and that's a big part of the battle and I got up and I stepped out of my bed. There are a lot of people that cannot use their legs. Um, I brush my teeth by myself. I have motor functions. I can see. Um, all of these things people take for granted, It could be taken away with just one small accident, just a second, and it could be gone. So don't forget to to revel in the small moments. I love that because I think Brad and I get very similar comments all the time that we're very fortunate to be happy and to be honestly cultivated this. And we've worked hard to, you know, look at the positive side of almost every situation since you were younger. Were you able to look at things with that gratitude, or have you had to practice

spk_3:   27:08
it. Do you feel like, um, I think it just develop

spk_0:   27:12
naturally? I mean, if you ask a lot of people, especially if they have gone through hardships growing up, that's kind of a survival mechanism where either you look at the bad side, which I do not blame anybody for doing right, because it's if something's happening to you, I get it. But to really mentally survive and protect yourself, you have to look at the bright side of things or say this is the end of the light at the end of the tunnel so that you can focus on a goal and get the situation. When I was in grad school, actually, I went to a therapist about a lot of the issues that I went through my past. I actually forgot her name, but I really liked her because she was actually blind. So when I went to her, I thought, Wow, she can really give me good advice because she doesn't see what I look like. There's a little bit less of that bias factor. She could just hear me for who I am and what my story is. It was actually really good experience. I went to her for a couple sessions just and she said,

spk_3:   28:08
You know, you're okay. You you found something.

spk_0:   28:12
Mechanisms to get you through the do your tough situations and you'll know how to work your way through. Do the struggle. But I highly recommend therapy. And look, don't It shouldn't be a stigma, especially in the black community. There's a big stigma that a lot of people say they're a piece for white people like Mel therapies for every people does Brad near big advocates of therapy. Um, I went briefly in college when I was going through some stuff, probably originating from childhood and carrying on. And then Brad and I went to couples therapy right before our wedding and

spk_3:   28:46
kind of the same thing.

spk_0:   28:46
We went for a short amount of sessions and we just worked out a few little things, and it was wonderful.

spk_2:   28:54
I feel like everybody should do that before they get married. Always in general. But also before you get married, Stupor helpful. Now a lot of people are gonna like, Listen to this. We'll hopefully A lot of people are gonna listen to this, Millie. Uh, these millions of people are gonna be listening to this and they're gonna say like, Yeah, I try to do the positive thing and, you know, I'm like, happy that I woke up and then a week later, I am back to normal. So what would you say that could help those people or your point of view on that?

spk_0:   29:27
Have you been through some dark times as an adult and had tea two year that out? Oh, yeah, I'd be lying if I said that. That was my view. 24 77 days a week. There are definitely times where people test my patients on and get C down. We're human. It's just that's when it turns into. I think you're kind of referring to that. An active exercise in A lot of people meditate, and sometimes people I've heard people say meditation isn't for me. It's it's too hard. And as passive of the processes you think meditation is its active to, you have to tell yourself. Okay, don't wander the wondering. Your thoughts focus, and after a while it'll become more natural. So I would say it's tough. It is maybe something that requires discipline. But keep working at it because it will get easier and it it will get better. One thing I like to stress to people, and I know this is not your field of expertise, and obviously it's not mine. But I have Google scholar

spk_3:   30:29
of them. So, you know, armchair

spk_0:   30:33
expert here, Um, I really enjoyed reading things about neural pathways in your brain and how if you're constantly firing in one direction, it actually like roads in your brain. Essentially that. You know, if you're constantly looking at the negative, that's where your brain is wired to go. And then, as you start to train, change that it doesn't go as easily. But then, eventually those neural pathways were formed, and it's a lot easier. So I would explain that Thio clients and it

spk_3:   31:02
goes with your muscles to

spk_0:   31:03
You're trying to activate your bicep, and it's been neglected for so long. You kind of got to just keep moving until all of a sudden, that brain makes the connection. So I think it's the same way with our bodies and our brains and our emotions to keep keep firing at it.

spk_2:   31:17
Yeah, with the community earlier, it's kind of hard to stay in a bad mood. When you go and see your colleague or your community member and they're in a good mood, it's hard to like Keep the negativity going because you're surrounded yourself with positive.

spk_0:   31:35
Yeah, your hype, dealing with people like me sometimes, but funny enough, actually, to bring it full circle again. One of my good my key tips that I use. Look, I'm going through situations that I don't like, whether it be in the workplace or when I'm working out. Brad taught me, especially during trap on training. If you just make yourself smile, you'll feel better. Like, don't even mean it. Like

spk_3:   32:03
just put a smile

spk_0:   32:04
on your face. And then all of a sudden

spk_3:   32:06
some of the stress

spk_0:   32:07
melts away and it works.

spk_2:   32:09
It totally works. Yeah, if you're really dying, if you really down to smile. Yeah,

spk_0:   32:16
use fake it, fake it till you make it. That's right.

spk_2:   32:22
Is there, like, one take away that you would want people to come away with after meeting you like won't you give everybody one piece of advice? What would it be?

spk_3:   32:34
One piece

spk_0:   32:34
of advice? Um, yeah. Just to be aware of every moment of every day and appreciate it because you're not gonna get it back. And you know YOLO No, wait and

spk_2:   32:54
wait. And the

spk_1:   32:56
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