The Nomadic Executive | Discussions With Digital Nomads and Online Entrepreneurs

A Million Dollars on Fiverr and Building an Online Empire with the Freelancer Fairy Alex Fasulo | TNE025

August 10, 2020 Omar Mo Episode 25
The Nomadic Executive | Discussions With Digital Nomads and Online Entrepreneurs
A Million Dollars on Fiverr and Building an Online Empire with the Freelancer Fairy Alex Fasulo | TNE025
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Whats up folks, we’ve got a real amazing guest with us here today. Like Rocky in the opening quote, our guest has jumped past obstacles and pushed through brick walls to end up where she is today. We’re joined by Alex Fasulo, a New York City based full time free lance writer and digital nomad. She’s most known for building a multiple 6 figure empire using the Fiverr platform. With a yearly income over 350k, and just about to reach her first million in profit, Alex is a woman of many talents. Today, she continues to expand her entrepreneurial horizons through launching online courses, building an incredibly strong social media presence, and even creating her own mobile app known as eyepop. Alex has been featured on Yahoo Finance, Market Watch, Entrepreneur Magazine, the New York times, and even Forbes, just to name a few. You won’t want to miss this very fun filled and extremely valuable episode as we dive into Alex’s entrepreneurial journey. Here we go!   

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What's up folks. We've got a real amazing guest with us here today, like Rocky and that opening quote, our guests has jumped past obstacles and pushed through brick walls to end up where she is today. We're joined by Alex Fasulo, a New York city based full time freelancer in digital nomad. She's most known for building a multiple six figure empire using the Fiverr platform with a yearly income of over $350,000. And just about to reach your first million in profit. Alex's a woman of many talents today. She continues to expand your entrepreneurial horizons through launching online courses, building an incredibly strong social media presence and even creating her own mobile app known. As I iPod Alex has been featured on the finance market, watch entrepreneur magazine, the New York times, and even Forbes, just to name a few, you won't want to miss this very fun filled and extremely valuable episode as we dive into Alex's entrepreneurial journey. Thanks for tuning into the nomadic executive. Here we go, pro seller on Fiverr out with your own online course and making well over six figures. I mean, it's something a lot of people, our age bracket definitely dream of. So let's, let's start from the beginning here, right? And then we'll, we'll sift our way to fake it till you make it strategy and go on from there. But let's start way in the beginning. Like how how'd you get this idea?

Um, yeah, it's funny. Cause I didn't, it was never really an idea. It was kind of born out of necessity after I quit my job when I was 22, um, I had obviously planned to quit that job. I thought I was going to like that job and it ended up being, I was working at a PR tech firm. I'm nice. So I don't name drop them, but if I was not a nice person, I would. And um, they, you know, kind of told me I was going to be doing all this writing and stuff and I get there and they, they definitely lied about the job. And I was doing like account management work, which if you know me, it's just not my forte at all. So, um, I quit that and this kind of happened out of necessity cause I really had to make it work or I was going to, um, be homeless in essence or have to go home, you know, that kind of thing. So, uh, it wasn't ever an idea. It like happened because it had to happen. But then, um, it was kind of funny like one or two days after I dove into it, I definitely knew I had, um, kind of discovered something I was supposed to be doing all along, which is amazing why I always tell people to step out of your comfort zone because you might think you have your life figured out, but um, the next best thing might be right around the corner.

Right. So when you say dove and you mean dove into fight.

Yeah. I mean, when I first started, I always tell people because I talked to her Lego was five or sponsoring you I'm like, no, no, no. I, um, I checked out a bunch of things. I was on Upwork and Fiverr. I was doing a private social media management for people. Like I kinda like, you know, like threw everything out there. Cause I was just trying to make any money that I could. And fiber ended up just being, you know, the jackpot for me. And I always say to people like, you know, there's other sites that might be your jackpot, but it just ended up being mine.

What made it exactly your jackpot? Like what, what stood out to you that was like, Oh yeah, this is my shit.

Um, I, I got a lot of interest quickly. So within one month, um, I had people messaging me, wanting to buy my services, whereas on these other sites that wasn't really happening for me yet. So it just kind of like captured my attention because that's where the business was. And even though I wasn't charging a lot for my services, I could see the potential in all of these people who are messaging me every day. And I was like, you know, if I hone in on my scale, if I take this seriously, there's no reason why I can't, you know, scale the business on here. Um, back then I was not nearly as savvy or anything, but I was like, well, there's people writing to me and they want to buy my services. This can't be a bad thing. So

After that first time that you put up your services, this was about five years ago. Mind you and fiber was a bit more in its infant stages versus where it is now completely international Oliver media. Um, but when you first put up that ad, something that I hear quite often from people that use fiber to sell their services, is that yeah, it takes a long time to like have your first customer, like someone reach out to you and actually do something for them. Did you have to deal with that obstacle at first?

Um, so, uh, I didn't quite have to deal with it because I actually had been on Fiverr a year before I took it seriously. I had this side editing gig that I was barely paying attention to making me $10 a month didn't matter. Um, but it did help my profile at least have a few five star reviews. So when I opened these new gigs, um, I got interest right away. And that was mainly because of the social proof that I already had. So I always say to people, if you're starting brand new, go easy on yourself. You need to give yourself a few months to get those first reviews. And then once you do that, then starts to take it more seriously, open more gigs. But I would say to people like, yeah, you can't expect your first month to be a hit success. Although I'm having all these people write to me now and tech talk, I'll say like share your success story with me.

And I'm having a ton of people write to me and tell me they're having success in their first week, which didn't happen for me. So I think that's amazing and it's definitely alive and well on there. And I'm happy to like share that with people now. Um, but I, I had a head start if you will, which is why I was telling people, you know, if you're still at your job, if you're not taking anything seriously, you have nothing to lose by opening one gig on there and like doing one project a month. Cause you'll slowly start getting those reviews going, which is, I say like the virtual gold on any of these sites. I mean like today, yeah. There, everyone reads reviews our age, even if they're not, you know, fair. We still read it. Yeah.

So is tech your main marketing platform then when it comes to that?

Um, so it's funny. I don't do, like, I don't get any clients through tick-tock it's, it's actually just my like cathartic release, um, because I'm just alone, like typing all day and it gets old. Um, I'm exploring tic-tac with what I could do with it. I'm not monetizing it at all. And I kind of like that. It's like a little more fun, but all of my clients on five are strictly just come from five or from finding me how highly ranked my gigs are after six years. Of course. I mean,

How long did it take you to get that pro seller status?

Uh, three years. So I say to people like I did my time, trust me. Um, I really did. And it's funny cause I prefer not to write for people I know in real life. Cause um, you know, writing is one of those things where you could just hate my writing. It might still be good writing, but you might just hate it and that's okay. You know, like that's the problem with selling a creative product, but um, I get less offended if it's some random person I don't know on the internet. And he's like, I hate your writing. I'm like, okay, sorry, any, you know, next. Whereas if it's like one of my friends who's like, Oh, this isn't quite what I was looking for at like, I don't like, you know, like

It's the ones that are closest to you whose criticisms hurt the most. Right?

Sure, sure. So it's like, I don't really want to tell people on tech tax to come buy from me because I want to like kind of keep them separate those little universes. And of course I do other things besides fiber. So the weirdest things like just classic serial entrepreneur problems, um, I'm really trying to get my mobile app going. I launched it at a terrible time with coronavirus cause it requires people to go to cafes and whatnot. So, um, have had to pause that for a second, but then, you know, I work on a family business with my mom. I still do social media management way too many things. I'm actually totally, I'm actually flying to Utah tomorrow to film two more online courses. Um, company reached out to me, so would love that. Yeah. Like, you know, I'm just always like feelers are out.

Yeah. So out of curiosity, like how'd you get into all this in the first place? Like what kind of skills, where did you gain your skillsets for everything that you're doing? I mean, you're, you're making an app, so I dunno if you can code or not or if you designed it, did you get someone else to do all of that?

Oh yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Okay. So you had an idea and you help you help the designer and the code or made it come to life. Copywriting's your main skill then? Right? So how did you get that skill right there in the first place to be able to do what you're doing now? I mean, when you, when you first started working with that PR for him back when you were 22, at that point you had already, from what it sounds like had that copywriting skill set. So where was the first time and how'd you get it?

Yeah. Good question. So my timeline when people will try and call me out for it, but I graduated college a year early. So that's why my timeline starts at 21 and not 22, but at 21 I went to go work for the New York state assembly and Albany and I was writing press for politicians. And that was where I got my initial like press release exposure and really nothing else. I didn't learn how to write blogs or books or anything. Um, so I received training on how to write a press release. And um, with that, I started out to apply to New York city. I wanted to get out of Albany as quick as I could. So I was told people were like, Oh, you got a New York city job. I'm like, I applied, I'm not kidding you to 250 companies in New York city. And told one said yes to me.

It took like four months. I just not clearly never gave up. That's like a common thing in my life here, but I made sure I got that job. Like I was just like, this is happening. I want to go to New York city. And my sister was there at the time she was going to fit. So I was like, I'm making this happen for myself. It's going to happen. So finally got hired at this company. They actually passed over me the first time I always tell people. And my one friend was the one who they picked and we met at a party was so weird. They picked her over me and then three months later they called me in. Um, so I didn't even get at the free, I always tell people, they're like, Oh, you're so lucky, whatever. I'm like, it's not a glamorous story at all. Trust me. Right. And um, so by the time I quit that I had had some experience working for politicians, writing press, but really the rest of it was entirely self-taught and I'm a big subscriber to that when people are like, Oh, I need to have this. I need to have that. I'm like, you, you really don't need to have any special background at all. You just need to have like a willingness to learn and um, a work ethic to kind of back it up. And that's about it.

Someone has that willingness to learn and the work ethic to back it up. But they're more like they can't get hired, but they don't have the credit essentials credit credentials, credentials to get hired by someone in New York. But they will do want to learn copywriting. Where would you ask them to start?

So I would say with copywriting, it's like not something you can learn in a textbook. It's like, you can't learn how to paint, you know, just from reading, you have to do it. So I always say to people, ask around your friends, family, just go on Google to start and say how to write a premium, Google, how to write a blog. And I can tell you like 18 articles come up that say pick a title, pick it, opening paragraphs. So self-explanatory, and then I was tell them, ask your friends and family, if they need blogs for their businesses, I can tell you they do. And they'll give you some topics. Maybe your, you know, your mom owns a, I dunno, an ice cream truck. And she's like, yeah, you can you write me? You know, he wrote me some blogs about why people should eat more ice cream or something. And that's, I think the perfect way to start practicing. And I think you need to practice a lot before you're going to sell your writing. And that's the only way to do it. I don't even think you need to go buy a special book or anything. Um, I think you need to write 100 blogs and then go sell your first blog, want to here. But

Yeah, I mean, it's true. You got to grind up anything in life. If you want to get good at it and good enough to at least sell it, you know? Right. Where they're like a little things that you picked up along the way, like little tips, you know, like for example, let's say let's give the most random X example. Let's say I'm swimming, I'm learning how to swim. And uh, I started doing a freestyle and then I learned that I need to extend my right arm a little bit more just from experience just from like swimming for so long. And then I start incorporating that and I realized, Oh shit, yeah, I can get bigger strokes. So using that same example, like, are there those small things that you pick up just getting so much experience writing that kind of helped push you to the next level?

Oh, absolutely. And you know, sometimes it came in the form of criticism from buyers that I didn't want to hear it first, but, um, you know, sometimes criticism is the best. Like I forget the expression, but um, that's why I say like just getting yourself out there as well. And we would pick up these little things. So, you know, I started to learn that perfection, isn't everything in my writing. Um, if you have an actual stat in the blog, you know, then just fluff language. Um, everyone loves listicles. They're called, you know, bulleting out points every, and every people love it because it's just, it's easier for our brains to see an article and go to, you know, so I learned that like, yeah, I learned all of it only from experience. So it was nothing I could have ever learned reading on Google. Um, it was strictly from people basically yelling at me, uh, for the first few months, which I know is when a lot of people will drop off. But I always say to them, you got to not take it personally. Like I did at first, you know, I'm, I'm a human, like you gotta just see it as business. And these people, sometimes their feedback is actually going to be helpful. Even if you don't want to hear it talking to my 22 year old self right now

Makes sense. It makes sense. You have that. I don't give up attitude. I'm going to find a way to do it no matter what, and I'll make it happen. I mean, for God's sakes, you applied to 250 jobs and he ended up getting one and he made it there. So that's a good lesson for my audience for whoever's listening. Alright, let's move on for this. So now you're 27. You're working in this job as a freelancer for Fiverr. You're making over six figures. You have your up blah, blah, blah. Like what, what's next for you after that? Oh, I know

Whenever people ask me that it's like, I of course want to do so many things still.

Well, you are traveling. Is that right?

Yeah. I travel all the time and I, you know, I feel like I need to stop that at some point in the next 10 years, if I want to have a family. So we'll have to, so I'm trying to get like all the traveling out of me right now. Um, just for whatever reason, but I would love to get to a point where I have enough passive income that I could start to even pull away from fiber a little bit. Cause it's, it's been a great six years and I will gladly do in another 10 years, but I would love to, um, get some more passive income going so I can write my own books like full 300 page books. There's about 12 of them. I want to write or write down the titles, like in my school.

Alrighty. Fiction, nonfiction, autobiography.

Oh, nonfiction. I I'm definitely, I'm not a fiction writer, although I've never tried it. So who knows, like who knows? Maybe I could be, I've actually never even tried it, but um, I have all sorts of things. I'm off of like out of all of this, I feel like most entrepreneurs are, I'm very like spiritual, philosophical kind of person. So I want to write like philosophical books, my outlook on things, you know, just, there's so many things I want to write. I just don't have the time to write now, which is fine. But, um, I'm, I'm really trying to get passive income going. That's why I'm going to Utah tomorrow. I'm really trying to hit six figures off of fiber so I can start to advance my own brand, you know? And not just like the fiber girl. Yeah.

Yeah. Because you're probably putting tons of hours into those Fiverr gigs, even though they pay really well.

Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I, even today, Saturday and I, I worked probably five hours today still.

So you had a busy life. How many hours you think you're clocking in a week?

Um, it can range like, you know, starting tomorrow, I'm going to have to cut back cause I'm not going to be available. So I'll pause some of my gigs. So it ranges anywhere from like 40 to 60. I, I don't do like AB up when people are like, Oh, do you work 80 hours a week? I'm like, no, I don't like go insane. Like I call it quits at 60, which is still a lot. I know that's half the amount. Yeah. But like, I'll meet people who are like, Oh, I work 18 hours a day. I'm like, you definitely don't. But um, I try and cap it to like 10 ish hours per day. But I honestly like, I love what I do too. So it's not like, um, I don't wake up and like, hate that I'm working.

You don't hate it. Do you ever get moments where you're just like uninspired or bored of writing?

I know people ask me that too, you know, I guess not.

So it's just free flows out of you. You must be a pretty creative person in that sense.

Yeah. Oh, I definitely am. Like, I like to paint and I come from the whole line of artists and stuff, so I'm definitely a creative person. Um, I mean, I feel like the kind of writing I do, they tell me like the topic and what I'm writing about. I don't have to come up with them. So I'm also researching every day and then I am coming up with things. So it's pretty just like plug and chug type of thing. Um, I don't really get like, writer's block with it.

You get some like interesting articles coming in, like interesting topics, things that you're actually quite curious to learn about Evan.

Yes, yes and no. Like sometimes I love it. I love when I get an Eagle account, something I want to learn more about like, I got to write like a survivalist ebook the other day for lost in the woods. Interesting. So interesting. Like I loved it and then I'll have people book some really dry stuff then I'm like, Oh my God, like online banking or often people book and saying stuff that I have to cancel because it's like amped up. Like, yeah, like we're in a graph that, you know, just like stuff where I'm like, honestly, I could probably write this for you.

Did they, did they ever make you write like a pornographic novel or something?

They're like, can you write an erotica novel about coffee? And I'm like, no.

Okay. So that's where you draw the line.

Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Like I'm like, no, cause the problem is my name's associated with it. Like, you know, watch my book come out in 10 years and they're like, Hey, Hey, she wrote this, you know, porn script. I was like, great,

Interesting. That's funny. I mean, every author has got to have a line, right? Some are on one side of it. Other ones are on Wattpad 24 seven, probably making a ton of money too. Besides all this. Like I want to dive into a little bit of your travel too. I mean, this is a digital nomad podcast at the end of the day. And a lot of the people that we have are digital nomads, mostly working entrepreneurial lives, like digital marketing, your standard stuff. You'd probably be the first copywriter I have on here, which is pretty cool. So yeah. I want to extract as much as I can in the limited time that we have here. Where are you right now? First of all,

I am in upstate New York. Normally I'm in Brooklyn. Um, due to unforeseen events this year, I've been based out of my mom's house in upstate New York right now, which is funny. It's like the first time I'm home and like five years, but, um, I'm here so she can watch my cat basically for me. And um, I'm just traveling a ton.

Are you traveling internationally? Are you traveling just in the U S I mean, aside from just quarantine as well, like outside of that?

Uh, yeah, I mean, I would love to travel internationally again, but I just, from what I've heard from people, they're kind of, you know, I'm like just kind of waiting out hope a thing right now. Um, national travel, I'm just kinda like waiting to see, you know, cause they're saying like, Oh, we might re shut things down again or whatever. So I don't want to spend all this money and get to an amazing place and have everything be close.

What I'm talking about is before COVID like, were you traveling of traveling internationally?

Yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah. Last year I did my longest international travel. I lived in Japan for a month. Um, which was unbelievable. And I would love to do that again. Um, yeah, no, I go all over when I can, like, so I'll like base each year. I'll have like a big American trip and a big international trip every year. So the past five years I've done like Iceland, Ireland, like Canada, random Germany, Japan, like just random places.

Do these trips in like week long periods or long periods or, uh,

I'll usually do them in one to two week periods. Cause I have a cat and I like to try and be a nice humane cat owner. So, but no, I mean, because of COVID, I've actually been embracing American travel this year and I'm last,

It's weird how that works. It's like a, I don't know if you're American or not, but whenever you live in your country, you barely get to see it whenever you actually travel. You always tend to go to other place.

Yeah. Last month, a few weeks ago or a week ago, even I went on a 14 day road trip through North and South Carolina, which you normally don't think about, but they were actually, it was actually one of the coolest trips I've ever been on. Like really insane, awesome geological stuff in the States. That was amazing. I barely even saw them, you know? And um, tomorrow, 10 days to Utah, I'm probably going back to North Carolina. I'm thinking of possibly like moving to the Carolinas. So probably going back there in July, I'm just like, I'm just like going all over the U S uh, I was going to go to Coachella. I have stuff booked to California in October, even though Coachella was canceled, I might just still go just for fun. Yeah. Like, you know, why not? Why not? Yeah. So I'm just all over the U S this year, which is a, not a bad thing.

Right? Of course. Were you born in New York?

I was born in Albany. I'm from Albany originally, um, upstate New York. So I'm home where I was born right now. But, um, I would like to not be here forever.

Is that where you, based from whenever you go travel everywhere.

Normally my base is Brooklyn. That's why I have an apartment there right now. I just haven't returned back to it, but I do run a mobile. Okay. Mobile trailer bar company. I call on it with my mom who lives up here. So even when I'm based, like, okay, so like in a given month I go between Brooklyn and Albany and I also travel somewhere else. So I'm like always moving. Um, even in New York state, I'm moving back and forth constantly. So I don't,

You sound incredibly entrepreneurial.

Yeah. I, I have a, like, can't sit still problem. Um, which I, you know, hope is gone in the next 10 years. Um, you know, finding a mate isn't that easy. Cause they don't really want to tag along. I gotta find another nomad. Um, a guy who likes to travel as much as I do, but no, I don't like to say. Yeah.

Yeah. Makes sense. So you own this thing with your mom and you do all this crazy stuff. Like what's the ease of taking your laptop with you and just doing your Fiverr gigs or all the other side hustles that you're doing whenever you're traveling,

It's super easy. Cause I just need a laptop. I bring my laptop, my charger by Canon camera that I would die if I ever lost it. And um, that's it. I have a spot on my phone and it's super like copywriting and super low resource. So you just need a laptop and watch minimalistic. Yeah. Very. And I got the MacBook air. I got the lightest laptop. You can get what my backpack. Cause then my camera weighs my backpack down pretty badly. But um, I'm, I'm loving this new like ring light that I have. I mean how I got it for tic. So I've been trying to pick out of like pack that to go. Because once you have a ring light, like you can't do life without one again.

Yeah. They're, they're pretty light. I don't know how big yours is, but the one I'm looking at right now is, uh, it's about the size of my hand. Maybe slightly bigger.

Yeah. That's how big mine is. Yeah.

It's an essential for tech talk. So there's that

You'd have to have it. Yeah.

Do you live in a good life then? Are you happy where you are? I mean, you want to head towards passive income and stuff and then start writing your books and what maybe like settle down somewhere.

I'm trying to like get it all out of my system. So I feel like, you know, like as a woman there's like a little more pressure to settle down earlier because of the whole biological clock thing. So I'm 27 now I'm hoping by like 31, I'll kind of calm down with it and be happy. Staying still like, that's the thing I'm worried about. Cause I'm happiest when I'm traveling right now. So I'm hoping, you know, as I get older, I'll be happier actually just like staying put,

I mean, they don't have to be mutually exclusive. You know what I mean? There's as long as there's always one example on the planet, then you can ask yourself why not me? And I've seen tons of families travel together with kids, you know? And those families tend to be incredibly healthy and the kids end up being very well rounded.

Absolutely true. And I also feel like one good thing with COVID is that education is becoming digital. And I think, you know, prior to this, like, you know, your kids had to be at their school, but I think it might become interesting because I think, um, kids might just get all of their education online, which means they actually can just go anywhere with you.

Right. So in the future, I began to see some books on the shelves written by you.

I hope so. I mean, that's it, if I get this like passive income figured out now I'd love to have one as soon as 2021. Yeah.

What kind of sources of passive income are you looking at? I mean, you've got this app and you got your course, right?

Yeah. So the app has a long way to go before it's going to be monetized, which I knew, I knew this wasn't a quick payout. It was something I wanted to do. Um, so I'm not so it's, it's a trending photo map app is like, this is what I like to call it. It has a lot of stuff to me. Yeah. So it was mainly made with influencers in mine, showing influencers in any given city where to go to like get the shot. Um, but because of it has not been easy to execute. Let me tell you what, because of COVID, it's actually kind of taken on more of a travel planning role, um, for people who are like, if you're going to go to New York city next week, you can use the app to plan ahead, check in on the place to see if they're open to you if they're not.

So, um, we've kind of been like trying to figure out the new branding of it. Um, I definitely think it will still have place in this world, but don't expect to make money from it this year anyway, which is okay. I plan for that. Um, would love for it to start making you some money next year would be great. Um, yeah. Passive income wise. I have a few eBooks for sale. I'm having my own personal labs and should be done this week. Has some affiliate fiber links on it, you know, those eBooks online course, that kind of thing. Hoping I get some AdSense on it. I'm trying to monetize the kind of as a blog. And then I really hopeful for these two more online courses. I'm going to film this week. So I have a few things in the cooker. Um,

Are they already in, they've already been executed. They're already bringing some income in right now. I wake up bookstore the course, all of it. Like all your passive income. Are you getting some right now or is it still like a work in progress to start getting some?

Um, my online course has actually been making me more money than he used to write down. Cause I think more people than ever are trying to just like quit what they're doing and become a copywriter. Um, you know, so that makes me a couple of hundred per month that you books make me maybe a hundred per month. So it's nothing. Yeah. Like I'm trying to get this new website I have launching. Um, I'm hoping, you know, to get it to a point where it's making me like one to two K per month just from site visits and like affiliate links and stuff. Um, and then on top of that, I'd love to have one of my own, like where's this hitting at least a thousand per month. And then now we're talking, you know, so right now I'm in the hundreds with it, but I would, um, I would love to see it.

Yeah. Maybe replace your five or income.

That would be great. I'm like, not that I'm not grateful for it, but I'm six years of writing 10 hours a day, you know, at some point I'm going to burn out. So

Absolutely I'm surprised you haven't yet the way that you sounded the you really interested in it. So it's always nice to see somebody that's doing what they're interested in and what they love as well. You know, and making money from that.

That's the home. I think that's the only way you can make big money in this lifetime is if you actually like what you're doing. Cause yeah, totally. You know, and, and people will come at me and be like, Oh whatever, you know, she's on only fat. I'm like, no, this is not only fans, but this is worth very, very, very hard for it. And there's some I would like to not work.

Do you ever, do you ever get flack for that? Like being a woman, do you ever get flack for, you know, how you just said, people assume that you got an only fence? Like, do you ever get flack as being as a woman doing what you're doing?

Yeah. It's funny you say that because I am not normally like, I'm just someone who wakes up and does what I need to do. And I don't look for, you know, special attention for that or anything. But one time made a ticktack. I was like, Oh wow, there is definitely sexism in business. Kind of makes me laugh. But like, Oh man, so many men are triggered by my videos. It's so funny. They all write like she's got a sugar daddy, she's a stripper she's on only bans. Her mommy gives it to her. Like all this stuff that I do not see on the male videos on there. Meanwhile, the guys, this bugs me, the guys can make videos and know, Hey, cause I love these videos where it's their sports cars, you know, like shell and the hundreds. And everyone's like, you go, man, you go, man. I'm like, can you imagine if I made that video? Oh my God. People would lose their minds. So

Honestly tech talk has just exposed to something that was already there. And that is the fragile masculinity of a majority of men in the world. And the fact that they just can't take it whenever someone other than themselves man, or woman is being as successful. You know, it goes to show a really deep insecurity in a lot of people. And it's, it's weird because like I've been on Ted talk for quite some time now. Like I might not be even making content for, for a month now, but I've been on since maybe early last year. And I've noticed there's like this whole trend thing going on where it's like men versus women, which is absolutely boggles. My fucking mind. It's men can't get along with women. Women are shitting on men and it doesn't make sense either way. I, as a human being, as human beings, men and women should be working together towards doing what they're trying to do anyways.

And there should be a thing of like, if anything of that I've learned from traveling for so long and I've been doing this, I've been doing this digital nomad thing for quite some time. It's that human beings are all the same on the inside girl or guy. They all have the same kinds of wants, all kinds of, same kinds of needs, same desires. You know, they might be different because of their gender. And they might be slightly different because of environmental factors, blah, blah, blah, you know, but on the inside, the, the feeling of being special and all that applies all across the board, you know, and it's like men and women, I don't want to get into like gender issues and shit. Now that's not what this podcast is about, but it's just tech talks become a really weird place when it comes to that. It's exposed.

It definitely has an, um, I'm just trying to laugh it off. Cause it's like haters gonna hate. I'm just gonna keep making my TicTacs. But, uh, it does bug me that like, I can't have as much fun with my financial success on there. I get like so much hate if I show my money versus like the guys I see who are showing it, I'm like, come on, this isn't fair. Like I want to have fun with it. You guys won't let me have fun with it, but

Yeah, fuck all the haters. Do whatever you want.

Yeah. Whatever

Batman, like, if you have the money, then show it. Hell. If I, if I was banking, if I was making like two, three, six figures, I think you're making like 300 something K. Now with that kind of money, I'd be fucking like, I'd be having fun too.

How would, I mean, and I was, I hit it until that CNBC article came out and it's like, the first thing, if you Google me is my financial information is right on the front of Google. So I'm like, you know what? It's out there now. Um, I'm just, I guess, going to talk about it. Cause some people want to know about it. Other people hate hearing about it. But uh, if I, you know, inspire one person who was having a bad day to kind of, um, start something new, then I don't care if it triggered, you know, a hundred others.

Well, I hope you, I'm sure you inspire plenty of people listening to this right now. Especially women entrepreneurs, you know, we need to have more of those. There's so many women that I feel like are afraid of being entrepreneurs, even though they're entrepreneurial types because of judgment and because of the way that they think other people will see them and that's lacking you, you'll never be able to your potential or the role that you have in this world. If you're afraid to like that includes men too. Everyone. Definitely everyone. So, yeah. All right, great. Let's close this podcast off with two questions here. I have two questions that I ask literally, every podcast guest and you are no different here. Uh, let's start with number one. How has your perspective of life changed since those six years ago? At 22, whenever you started this entire writing journey and traveling up till now.

Oh, okay. You're like wanting again, the philosophical stuff I have to like calm myself cause I can,

He's go off. I love philosophy. Let's let's hear it.

Um, all right, then I'll start. The first thing that popped into my head, um, I have seen firsthand how hard and how, how hard it is and how hard you have to work to get to where I am that I now have tremendous respect for anyone who has obtained anything in this life. Um, I do not like when people want to write it off. Oh, well they got this. Oh, well they got that. I no, no, no, they did not. And um, anyone who has anything worth having, I know, busted their ass for it. And I have tremendous respect for them, no matter what it is, even if it's something I don't like, I know how hard they worked for that. Um, number one, uh, number two, um, anytime you succeed at anything, you're there. You're going to have haters for it. Even if you're the nicest person in the world. And all you do is get online everyday to help people. Uh, so you have to stop caring about what people think about you. And I think that's such a hard thing to do as a human. I think we care tremendously what our tribe thinks about us.

I mean, we are a tribal species, you know, if we don't feel like we're in. Yeah,

No, it's, it's ingrained in our, you know, in our DNA. So I think it's an unnatural thing to have to get used to. And I think it requires a lot of mind training. Um, but the second you Excel at anything, you are going to get hate for it. And it doesn't, you could be feeding kids and um, you know, someone's gonna hate you for that because you're, you're doing something. So, but you're, you have to, yeah. You have to just understand that you have to tell yourself that now as you start your journey to be successful at something that you're not going to please everyone along the way, and you have to just not care about that because that is more of a reflection on them than it is on you. And you just happen to be triggering something that's deep in them and not to take it personally and you're, you know, go kill it. Like don't let that stop you. Right. That's number two. I mean, there's, I could go on so many things. I'll leave it at that.

Let's hear one more, one more. Okay.

Um, okay. One more thing that I've learned about life. Uh, okay. Let me, I'll say this. Um, you have so much more control over your mind than you think you do. And when you slow it down and realize that you are in direct control of your mindset, it has nothing to do where you came from, what has happened to you and what color your skin is, what sex you are, nothing you have every power to control how you see the world. And so many people, you know, who will default. And I have at times in my life to like to a victim type of mentality, which is easier at times, you know, than it is to kind of just take control of things. Um, when I have, you know, I have been there, but, um, you like have so much more power than you think you do, no matter what has happened to you, if you feel like you're a wounded animal, if you feel like you've been traumatized

Own that shit and wear it like a badge,

Like if your parents, you know, beat you like horrible things, you know, whatever has happened to you, um, you are not a prisoner to your thoughts. And if you realize you can actually just like take a step back and become a spectator on them, um, you will be unstoppable.

Awesome. That is fantastic advice. I want to applaud that along those lines. Do you have any sort of like morning routines or meditations or anything that you do on your end?

Yeah, so I am a very spiritually like Christian person. So I do a lot of crying at night and um, read the Bible a lot and I read it. I'm actually really big into like near death experience books. I absolutely love reading about what happens with CLI I'm back. I love it. Right. Um, I have very vivid and insane dreams, borderline premonitions at time. So I read all about that stuff to help me manage it. It's fantastic. And I don't necessarily ask for it, but here, here we are. Um, so I see everything

For all you kids listening that means woke.

Oh my gosh. Yes. I'm so happy. I woke. It's like a problem.

Yeah. That's not a bad thing to be. Honestly, I used to, I feel very similar to that and I used to think of it sometimes that it's like a double edged sword, like being, being that way in a sense in a world that has a blind eye to a lot of things, sometimes it makes you feel like an outsider or to a sense of like, people can't understand you as well, but you realize that it's actually a really big strength and that it helps you work around things and make moves that people wouldn't even look twice that, and you realize you're somewhere way bigger,

Just like summed up my week. Cause I had been having a very lonely feeling kind of weak because I had a Forbes article come out and it just brings out some nasty side people to hear that. Yeah. I mean, you know, it is what it is. I'm lucky I have a mom, her sisters are awesome to me and stuff. So it's like, I can't complain, you know, but um, I was having one of those weeks, you know, just feeling very alone, um, for my wokeness. But yeah, you realize at the end of the day, I, you wouldn't be any other way. Once you're woke, you can't go back on your work.

Of course there is no other way in life. It's I guess the simplest way to put it is that, you know, you watch the matrix, right? Like the red pill, blue pill, it's kind of like being born by, or at least having taken the red pill at a very young age and just realizing the way the world actually is. And I could tell just by talking to you, I swear to God that you seem very a person who knows how the world is rather than actually made these assumptions. And instead of making assumptions, you've got a ton of different reference points. If you made your own idea of the world and you live by that. Yeah. So, and that's the way to do it. And that's a huge reason why I tell so many people to travel to it's because if I believe I personally, a hundred percent believe if people started traveling, especially in the U S people who have lived in their small little bubbles, all their life relationships would be better. They wouldn't be these black lives matter protests because they wouldn't have to happen in the first place. People would be much more understanding and empathetic and just so many better characteristics between people travel is a huge way to unlock that. How are your friends, by the way, like, do you have friends right now that are supportive of you or when you say you feel lonely, there, there are people that you reach out to besides your family.

So I am, I mean, I spend a lot of time investing in my friends and I have a circle. I would say I'm there actually I've never have just one circle. They're always scattered. But, um, I have one amazing best friend. I could not do this life without her. She is like supportive all the way. Like here's the best person ever. And then, um, I have really, you know, like five to eight other really good friends who are also supportive, but I, you know, what I find is funny is when I have one of these weeks where I lose some people that I thought were my friends, um, God, or who, whoever you want to call him, uh, always bring someone else into my life. So it's funny because like the last three months I've been in inside, right. Cause the porn too, and I've made about five, I'll call them virtual friends, um, who are some of the most amazing people I've ever met my entire life. I don't even know them in person. And they're so unbelievable. So it's like when I have a big loss, someone awesome. Always steps in. So it's like having, you know, like if it comes and it goes, so that'd be for that. Yeah, me too.

Awesome. That was very inspiring stuff. Let's finish with one last question here. So for all my listeners out there, a majority of them, I would say maybe about 90, 85% have never taken that first step of either a making money online or be ever traveling out of their bubble. Yeah. So to those people, if you could give one solid piece of advice just from all the experiences that you've had, and it doesn't even have to necessarily relate to copywriting by any means, but just by the way that you've lived your life and the way that you are now and how happy you are, if you had to give one piece of advice, what would it be?

Okay. All right, let me okay. Um, I would say that I would say that all the,

I would say that the law of attraction is very real and that you can manifest anything you want. It has nothing to do with where you come from or your expertise or anything. So what that means is if you tell yourself right now that you hate your job and you're going to quit it, and you are going to make working online, work for you, it will work for you. That's it. You have to just commit yourself to it. 120% work your butt off, go above and beyond. Just keep trying, keep plugging, keep doing everything you need to do. And I can say this. I promise you, it will work out for you, but you have to commit yourself. Be like beyond yourself. You have to want it fast. Yes. And it will work. It will. But you, you have to give everything you have.

Do you have to quit your job to shift. Can you work your job while you're trying to do this off the ground? How'd you do it?

I always tell people like, don't just dramatically quit your job. Like, um, there's no reason why you can't do, you know, one freelancing gig while you also work a nine to five. There's a reason why you can't have an affiliate site while you still work your nine to five. Um, there's no reason why you can't dip your toes, you know, and get a taste for it. At least if you're unsure. And then I do say to people, you know, if you dip your toes and you love it and you can tell this is for you, then at some point you do have to quit that job. If you want to like become a big league at it. Like you can't, um, you can't have both, but you can absolutely test the waters. And I recommend doing that before you quit your job, please know you quit their nine to five right now.

Oh, I was going to say, I wanted your input on that, but yeah, that's, that's the same way. There's it works very, very rarely, you know, if you're, if you're lucky and you're super committed and most people aren't committed right off the bat. Are you in Australia? No, I actually came back about six months ago. Five months ago to wait out corns, you know, over here in Houston.

You're in Houston. Oh, okay.

All right. Well thank you so much for coming on today, Alex, that was incredibly inspiring and I learned a lot myself. So thank you for coming.

Good. Thank you. Thanks for having me.

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