Episode 37

Thanks to Southern States Hardin Co-op for sponsoring this week's show! Go visit them at their Hodgenville and Elizabethtown locations. 

Thanks also to our studio sponsor Biotech Innovations.  Learn more about them at www.biotechinnovationsag.com.

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:09

Welcome to Dirt the Dollars, where we cover everything from the dirt on your land to the dollars in your hand.

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We're talking all things agriculture in central Kentucky, from the field to the farm office.

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Join your hosts, Daniel Carpenter, Matt Adams, and Mark Thomas as we dig into current ag news, practices, and more. And now, coming to you from the Biotech Innovation Studios, here's Dirt to Dollars. Now let's get innovative. Welcome back to another week of Dirt to Dollars. Uh I think we're probably all three in the doghouse this week.

SPEAKER_02 0:46

Oh, without a doubt. But how but how's that different from any other week? All right. I don't know about you all ain't in no doghouse. What did we do? Daniel's in the sheep barn.

SPEAKER_01 0:56

Yeah. We forgot to even mention a holiday last week.

SPEAKER_04 1:03

We did.

SPEAKER_01 1:03

Do you even remember which one, Daniel?

SPEAKER_00 1:06

Mm-mm. Was it May the was it Star Wars Day?

SPEAKER_01 1:13

Yeah. We forgot to talk about Mother's Day.

SPEAKER_00 1:16

Or was it sinkhole day mayo?

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Sinkhole Day Mayo. I guess it's not very funny.

SPEAKER_02 1:26

Hey, I gotta I gotta say, we'll get back to Mother's Day in just a minute. But on that day, I am so proud of all of my Facebook friends. I did not see a single picture of a jar of mayonnaise in the sink.

SPEAKER_04 1:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:42

So maybe I've just deleted all the people that would post those pictures. But there we go. So yeah, we missed Mother's Day last weekend. So happy late Mother's Day to all the mothers out there. We even had a mother guest on it. We did. But it wasn't Mother's Day when we recorded.

SPEAKER_01 2:00

It was at It wasn't, but it was close. It was close enough we should have been thinking about it.

SPEAKER_02 2:06

We should have. Hopefully her children and her husband didn't forget Mother's Day on her behalf.

SPEAKER_00 2:13

So hopefully.

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I would I would hope not.

SPEAKER_00 2:16

Well, speaking of things that we don't need to forget, who's our sponsor this week?

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Southern States Harden Co-op locations in Lizabettown and Hodginville.

SPEAKER_01 2:27

Hang on, say that again. I I wasn't ready.

SPEAKER_02 2:29

Southern States Harden Co-op. You gotta get that.

SPEAKER_00 2:33

Matt was too busy eating his dinner. Yeah, pretty much.

SPEAKER_01 2:37

Trying to squeeze in bites in between topics here, but yeah, I had to look around. I couldn't even find my belt. They keep moving it on you? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 2:48

That's okay.

SPEAKER_01 2:50

That happens. So did you all get your wives' good Mother's Day gifts? Do you get your wife's mother's gifts? What? It's Mother's Day, not spouse's day. She's the mother of your children. My children got her something.

SPEAKER_02 3:04

Okay. Same.

SPEAKER_01 3:07

Your children did. Mm-hmm. Mark's children did. Yeah. How old's the oldest one? Five, six. Yeah. I'm sure she's a child.

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Nothing says I love you, mom, like handmade gifts from school.

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From school. From each school. You really?

SPEAKER_04 3:31

You didn't you weren't even involved. Mine got a new water hose. Well.

SPEAKER_01 3:42

And she was tickled to death about it.

SPEAKER_02 3:44

So we didn't get the gift on Mother's Day, but week before last, weekend before last. One of the weekends that we got rain and we couldn't be in the field, I built her a new planter garden.

SPEAKER_04 3:59

Oh.

SPEAKER_02 4:00

Out in the the corner of the yard. So that's we don't have any plants in it yet. She she planted some flowers, but uh we don't have any garden stuff in it yet. But that was Mother's Day around here.

SPEAKER_01 4:11

Probably better than a water hose. I actually had it as a water hose and a nice spray nozzle.

SPEAKER_02 4:16

What about a hose reel?

SPEAKER_00 4:21

Explain the hose end. Like, was it one of those twist ones or was it the hand? The trigger one, but one with like 15 settings.

SPEAKER_01 4:30

You can make it rain. Yep.

SPEAKER_02 4:32

Yeah. Those are good ones.

SPEAKER_01 4:34

And one of the is it flexilla or whatever hose, the neon green hoses that are. Those are the ones that not supposed to kink.

unknown 4:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 4:44

They don't kink up or whatever. Yeah, and they're supposed to last forever. They were like twice what a regular garden hose is, so they better last a long time.

SPEAKER_02 4:51

Well, I'm sure I don't know about those. And I'm not calling anybody out, but they'll all last a long time if you don't hit them with the lawnmower. True.

SPEAKER_01 5:00

Yeah. So now I I thought about the hose reel. And then I think I just thought she mentioned that the hose reel could be for next month's.

SPEAKER_02 5:12

So you'll have to find a hose for a whole year.

SPEAKER_00 5:15

Yeah. So you're you're right on the on the county line. So like if you had a hose at like the farm that's across the county line, would you have hose in different area codes? It's the same area code, Daniel.

SPEAKER_01 5:31

Just because you cross the county line doesn't mean that it's a different area code. That's true.

SPEAKER_00 5:36

I was reaching.

SPEAKER_01 5:37

That was a stretch.

SPEAKER_00 5:38

Yeah, that was a really maybe you've got hose in different zip codes. It's actually the same zip code. Well, either way, can't have too many hoes. All right. Let's see.

SPEAKER_02 5:53

Then another time we'll probably get in trouble with the FAA.

SPEAKER_04 6:03

Speaking of getting in trouble, it's the time of year when things are busy.

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And you do school drop off on the way to do other things.

SPEAKER_04 6:15

So I had to do school drop off one day this week and my service truck.

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And the uh we had to had to have a talk because my oldest, she always climbs up in the front seat while we're in the drop-off line. Because usually she sits her sister's car seats are on the passenger side, that's the side that they let them out. So she climbs up in the front seat, so they just let her out the front door so she doesn't have to climb over the car seat. And uh like any good farm truck, my passenger seats full of empty water bottles and 15 invoices and receipts and different parts. So we had to have the talk when she climbed up there. I said, Absolutely do not drag those water bottles because I've had that happen before. That's embarrassing. Yeah, you gotta get out and put them up. Yeah, I actually you typically the ones that the teachers that are letting them out, or if it's not much stuff, they'll kind of gather it up and say, Oh, well, here you go, no problem. But uh yeah, she did good. She she said, I know, dad. And she took her feet and she kicked them over away from the door. And then uh she was sitting far close enough to the edge that she didn't scrape the receipts and invoices and all the paperwork that was sitting in the passenger seat out either. So she did good. But I thought we might have a parent teacher conference called because I dropped her off and I was on the way to AI group of cows, and so we had the semen tank with us. And semen tanks, you know, they've got thousands of dollars worth of cattle semen in them, and they're kind of halfway fragile. You're supposed to pretty well take care of them. You don't just throw them on the back of the truck and let them slide around. So I don't know if you all have ever seen this before. Any cattle guys, they'll put them in the truck seat and put a seatbelt around them. So I had my semen tank in the back seat of my service truck on the driver's side with a seatbelt around it, and Amelina sat in the middle. She thought it was the coolest thing ever to get to ride to school next to the semen tank. She crawled in, she patted it like on the back, she said, Hey there, big buddy. Said that she was going to tell everybody at her school that she got to ride, ride to school next to the semen tank that morning. I thought she told everybody. I asked her yesterday if if she did, and she said she told everybody she saw that morning. Luckily, I guess everybody's understanding.

SPEAKER_02 9:00

Part of that country school.

SPEAKER_01 9:02

Yeah. Well, that's what on the farm truck deal. So yeah, I had an empty seed pallet on the back of the truck and stuff laying everywhere, and I was just waiting on stuff to fall off the bed. But I got to thinking about it. Pretty much everybody in that school drop-off line at Creekside has got some kind of a farm background, either was raised on a farm or still lives on a farm, or farms themselves, or farmer's wife, or something. So pretty understanding around here.

SPEAKER_00 9:34

Yeah, I don't think it's as understanding as the city of Valley, even though it's a rural school, it's it's really even not not um, like especially if you had a trailer that you were trying to like, it's not very friendly for a trailer. Like you could do it, but it's you know, there's so many vehicles in there, it's just not uh it's just not what I would consider the best time or place to have. But sometimes you just have to, right?

SPEAKER_01 10:00

Like it's I've uh yeah, I've seen on multiple occasions at Creekside a certain listener pull a nitrogen tank, starter fertilizer tank uh through the drop-off line in the morning on his way to the planter. So ain't nothing wrong with it.

SPEAKER_00 10:18

It's just that you know the the way that they're set up and they're just it's just such a hectic place. Uh it's you know, it's just Mark's gonna learn one of these days. Yeah, he's gonna he gonna learn.

SPEAKER_02 10:29

Well, I mean it can't be any worse. I mean, yeah, be next year we'll have actual school drop-off line, but you know, now we're dropping both girls off at preschool out at you park and you walk away. Well, that's right, you typically park and walk in, so there is no drop-off line. But I did mess up the other day because I was put I was out planting and I had the sea tender on, and it was our bigger sea tender, so it's a little bit taller. And uh we have to pick them up, I think, by 5 30. And we always try to get there by 5. But I I pulled in, it was like right at 5. And I I very rarely actually pull to the the awning that's out in front of the building. And so I just I kind of pulled up there and I parked and I didn't try to pull under or anything, but then I got out and I kind of looked as I walked in, and I was like, oh man, I don't think I can fit under there. So I had pulled in the little road, brought the girls out, buckled in, and then had to back all the way out.

SPEAKER_01 11:29

That could have been like, you know that scene on the the hangover where Alan or though it would not have been good.

SPEAKER_02 11:39

Not gonna we're not even gonna risk that because it'd have been more embarrassing to get closer up to it. And actually what made it even worse is it was a Wednesday. So people were rolling in for turns. Yeah, so they're rolling in. There's there's a meal there every Wednesday night. A lot of witnesses. A lot of witnesses. There's there's a meal there every Wednesday night, and I think at 5 30, 6 o'clock, something like that. So uh people were really rolling in. I got some funny looks, but how far do you have to back up? Uh, not real far.

SPEAKER_01 12:09

I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 12:11

Five hundred feet probably.

SPEAKER_01 12:13

Would have been funnier if you had to back up like a quarter of a mile. Yeah, and you've got a hundred people standing there watching you, because that always makes that better. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 12:22

Yeah. Definitely.

SPEAKER_01 12:28

Man, we would have had to have found the security camera footage on that if you'd have hit the awny.

SPEAKER_02 12:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:32

I think we would have had I think we've got connections enough.

SPEAKER_00 12:35

We could have got it too.

SPEAKER_02 12:36

Oh, I'm sure you could have got it, without a doubt. Without a doubt.

SPEAKER_04 12:48

What else we had going on last week here?

SPEAKER_02 12:52

Quite a bit of big news in uh the seed industry. Not the first time something's happened, and and there's been a little bit of confusion around it. Uh Corteva, which is the parent brand of uh pioneer, seed consultants, hogemeyer. Um there's a couple more.

SPEAKER_01 13:12

Is it Hogemeyer or Hogmeyer? I always say Hogmeyer. Hogemeyer. Hogmire sounds cool. Hogmire is how you say it in Kentucky. Yeah, but I thought it was Corteva, but it's whatever. Uh I say Corteva.

SPEAKER_02 13:25

Corteva's what I've always said. But um they have chosen to spin off their uh seed brand to a different entity. There, instead of it being under Corteva's umbrella, it's gonna be under its own umbrella uh called Violor. Valor? Viilor V-Y-L-O-R. Viiler. It's it's a spinoff from Valor on a spelling red. They did. They left an eye out. And I looked it up. It is not the Greek word for fall down. So hey, that's not as bad as Dave's jet.

SPEAKER_00 14:09

Well, Valor, but isn't Valor sponsorship? Isn't Valor like people with upstanding characteristics?

SPEAKER_02 14:16

Yeah, so it was it was done to honor the farmers uh that have promoted the brand and used the brand for the all the years that it's been been out there.

SPEAKER_00 14:26

So does that mean that their corn is going to be upstanding as well?

SPEAKER_02 14:30

I hope so.

SPEAKER_01 14:33

So in the company, there's some small regional brands that they owned that got just completely dropped or all into a different name, wouldn't it?

SPEAKER_02 14:39

Uh Sea Consultants is one of those. Uh Hogemeyer are open. Right. Hogemeyer has been uh prominent in Nebraska, uh, Kansas, Iowa, you know, some of the northern states. Um there was Dairyland, I think was one of their brands. Uh that one is going away. Sea Consultants is going away, which is the one we would we would recognize here. Um some counties in the western part of the state, I think, will be uh covered under the Hogemeyer name. Everything else in Kentucky will be under the Pioneer name. Um lot of people losing their jobs over that. Um so that's that's not a good thing in the current state of the ag economy.

SPEAKER_01 15:27

Um wait a minute. So we've so we're not gonna have any regional type brand for cor from Corteva available here.

SPEAKER_02 15:37

That's my understanding is it's all gonna be rolled into Pioneer. There won't be a small regional, and and I d personally I don't like that for the the compet how the competition goes uh here locally. And and the thing about these, you know, we joke about this. We actually had we Matt and I sat in a meeting years ago and and one of the regional managers of a seed company that was under Bayer at the time, that company is no longer around either, but he said, you know, basically we take all the stuff that the big guys don't want that works locally, and that's what we plant. And and that's really what happens when you get a a sea corn or or a bean that w performs well in a certain area, they put that under their regional regional rep. And and even though they're under the same umbrella, it keeps price competition in check. Um you may not get the the top new hybrids from Pioneer, you know, under the sea consultant's name or whatever, but you're gonna get something close. And you're gonna get a hundred and thirteen day, and that's that's very close. It might not be something that worked over a wide variety, you know, that Pioneer needs to cover, but it it really hits home and works here in our soil and our climate. Um I'm gonna have that anymore. That's that's gonna be I'm not gonna say it's gonna be detrimental to but you know, farmers, but it's it's gonna be it's gonna take competition down a little bit.

SPEAKER_01 17:10

And you know, but it's just weird. Why did they choose to roll us completely into Pioneer and then like West Kentucky still gets choices there? Because they're not pulling pioneer out of West Kentucky, are they?

SPEAKER_02 17:22

No, no, see, everywhere that you could get seed consultants or Hogmeyer or whatever, you could get Pioneer. You can get pioneer all over the country. Um I I can't answer that question.

SPEAKER_01 17:32

I just assumed they were gonna roll seed consultants in and for this area to be Dairyland or because Dairyland was one of them that's Dairyland's one of them.

SPEAKER_02 17:42

That's one they got rid of that that's gonna be under the Hogemeyer brand now. Oh, and why yes and why excuse me, why they chose Hogemeyer over keeping seed consultants. I guess maybe it was more name branded, I guess. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 18:00

Oh, let me clarify. This Vilor is an is is a new seed company, correct?

SPEAKER_02 18:09

But under Pioneer. They've made a new they've made a new name, and Vilor is going to house Pioneer and Hogemeyer and the genetic research of that company. The genetic research and seed sales that was under Corteva is now going to be under Viler.

SPEAKER_01 18:26

Got it. Isn't Hogmeyer or Hogemeyer or whatever doesn't isn't that what Corey Hilbow that is part of Farm for Profit podcast is a dealer for?

SPEAKER_02 18:37

Yes, that's correct. That was actually the first I'd ever heard of it whenever he talked about it. Uh and I just assumed it was a small local seed company. It's kind of a big name in the cornbelt. Well, it is, it is in the corn belt. You know, to me listening to it, I was thinking, oh, this is a um Cavendale Farms type deal. You know, that's a name that we would know here locally. Um apparently not. Apparently it's a lot bigger than I thought it was. So we could uh if they were gonna be in this area, we could have got him on the on the show to tell us all about it.

SPEAKER_04 19:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 19:16

Tell us all about some some good seed brands and seed numbers.

SPEAKER_01 19:24

But I I haven't heard of anybody locally being let go from the pioneer side of you. I seems like I've heard I saw uh Matt Griggs in West Tennessee make a post that made it sound like a lot of the pioneer branded employees, there were several in that West Tennessee area that got let go as part of this deal.

SPEAKER_02 19:44

I think you're right. I saw that as well, but I I have not heard of any local changes uh to that. Just the just the the sea consultants side, you know, they cleaned house there. But going on their website, Dairy Land Seed will no longer be available after June 30th, 2026. So they're gonna take they're gonna take Dairyland Seed and Sea Consultants and all those.

SPEAKER_01 20:13

I saw I think somebody had shared the Dairyland Facebook post about the Facebook account would say active through like the end of June, and then it was even going away. Yeah, I say you gotta get those out.

SPEAKER_00 20:30

Yeah. People get confused. True, true.

SPEAKER_02 20:34

The new company will build on Corteva's Pioneer, Bravant, and Hogemeyer seed brands. I did not realize that Bravant was under um Corteva, but they will hold a number one or number two market share position for key crops in nearly every region they serve.

SPEAKER_01 20:52

But see, can't we? Hasn't Bravant been available locally?

SPEAKER_02 20:59

I don't think so.

SPEAKER_00 21:00

I don't know. I've not I've heard of it before, but I've not really seen it around. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 21:05

The only time I've ever seen it has been like a commodity classic. I've seen a booth for it. Uh and I think it's been more prevalent in the Midwest.

SPEAKER_01 21:14

Well, it isn't wasn't Vermont was like Canadian or something at one time, wasn't it?

SPEAKER_04 21:20

Possible. So yeah, that's not even close to here. No they buy their seed with maple leaves. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 21:32

Maple syrup. The pioneer, that's where the that's where the A series soybeans came from.

SPEAKER_03 21:41

Hey. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:47

That that one was that's a good one. That's a good one. Had a little bit of farm bill conversations going on this week. Seems like there's a few different things happening there.

SPEAKER_02 22:01

We had some good news. It passed the house.

SPEAKER_01 22:04

Didn't it pass right after we recorded last week? I think so. Always happens the day after.

SPEAKER_00 22:10

But still hasn't got through the Senate, right?

SPEAKER_02 22:13

It's not got through the Senate yet.

SPEAKER_00 22:14

It doesn't look like it will.

SPEAKER_02 22:16

I'm sure there will be. If it does, there will be uh significant changes in it and it will have to go back to the House. Um but you know we have not passed a farm bill. We I say we, uh we don't have any votes on it, but um Congress has not passed a farm bill since 2013. I mean, I guess that's true, yes.

SPEAKER_01 22:39

If it all worked like like our founding fathers designed this, then yes, it should be we.

SPEAKER_02 22:45

Um The most recent farm bill, the Agriculture Improvement Act of 2018. So we we have not passed that. And and I would venture to say that even though that was labeled in 2018, it might not have got passed in 2018. May have actually been 2019 when it got passed. But but either way, it expired in 2023, and we have been operating on uh extensions and it would have gone through in 2019.

SPEAKER_00 23:11

Aren't they for four? Are they for four years?

SPEAKER_02 23:13

I think it would have went Yes, you're right. They are for four years, typically for four years. So we've just been operating on extensions for for the last little bit, and it's time. It's time to pass a farm bill again. Hopefully we can get that done in 2026. Um it has been extended at existing funding levels through September 30th, 2026. So that's kind of the hard deadline. We'll either have to add another extension or we will have to truly pass a farm bill. Um people out there who it probably will get extended again, but um you guys may know more a little more about this, which you weren't in the that side of it when you were in extension, but one of the reasons a a farm bill is so hard to pass is because such a large portion of that um is the snap program.

SPEAKER_01 24:10

Oh we were in that side of it.

SPEAKER_02 24:13

The supplemental nutrition assistance program and and people think farm bill and and farmers are getting all this money, but the biggest chunk of it is is the SNAP program. So But I've always wanted to decide if it wasn't for the SNAP program, a farm bill would not get passed.

SPEAKER_00 24:30

Because the I get torn on that here lately. Like I almost I almost wonder if it's a lot of people. Yeah, that's been the argument my whole life, but I don't know. Because it's just so confusing, and it seems like if it was separate, it would be it could be easier to get some things through.

SPEAKER_02 24:47

But possibly, but your your representatives from your big cities What's their motivation to pass it when they have zero ties to production agriculture? Do they like to eat? They don't look at it like that though.

SPEAKER_00 25:01

Yeah, I don't I don't honestly I just don't think they look at it any differently if it's in it or not, to be honest, because they're just gonna try to get their stuff passed either way. You know, we're so one of the things that we're that they were would were doing uh was you know with E15, they took it out of the farm bill, and what happened?

SPEAKER_02 25:21

They voted on it separately and it passed. Yes, it did.

SPEAKER_00 25:24

So that didn't seem to matter. Um so I you know I think there's some some things there. Maybe there's some things that stay, but I I just I don't know. I I've heard I've just like Matt said, I've heard that for a long time that that's why they put it together, but it just to me it's not it's not um it's not helping.

SPEAKER_01 25:43

We can uh we can talk about this E15 deal for a little bit. And yeah, it did get pulled out. They tried to put it in the farm bill, and that was one of the major sticking points that was holding it up, wouldn't it? It was. And so that's why it got pulled out and then brought up the vote separate. But I hope it does, but I've kind of got my doubts it'll get through the Senate. And I can't understand why. Like it makes absolutely zero sense to me why they won't pass this thing.

SPEAKER_00 26:14

Well, I noticed this time it really talks about bringing down fuel costs a lot. And and and I guess maybe they're trying to use that to to help push it through a little more, but um And it's not they get hung up on it's a mandate.

SPEAKER_02 26:35

It's not a mandate saying there has to be.

SPEAKER_01 26:43

Yeah, that's all it is is a choice that you can pull up to the pump and buy the cheaper fuel that 15% of it anyway was was grown in the US and not pumped out of the ground into the Middle East.

SPEAKER_04 27:01

And it's renewable, and it's renewable.

SPEAKER_01 27:04

And I ble and for the most part, E-15 from what I've heard is similar fuel mileage. It's not like you're dropping a ton of fuel mileage like you used to with when Eighty Five was a little bigger thing. So that's right. Uh I just I don't get it. I don't get why we're not passing this and why this thing should have gone through six months ago. It should have been should have gone through six years ago. And I just I just don't get it.

SPEAKER_02 27:33

One of the big debates on that that has been a debate for a long time is food versus fuel.

SPEAKER_01 27:40

And but we ramped but we're but we raped really ramped up corn production and row crop production on the heels of ethanol. That's why we have so many acres in production. So we've overcome that a long time ago. Other than you could make the argument that we pulled a bunch of pasture out and put it in crop and now beef prices are sky high and we've got a beef shortage.

SPEAKER_02 28:08

There could be that argument. That absolutely. Uh but we're making a when we're making ethanol, we're making an excellent food source for our livestock. For livestock, yes.

SPEAKER_01 28:20

But and on the other hand, it's not like you can go out Establishing a pasture is not like just rotating to a different crop the next year. You can't just go out and sow it in grass real quick and and throw the fence up background around it and roll on.

SPEAKER_02 28:37

And you and you can't just dump cows on it and whatever.

SPEAKER_00 28:43

And I don't think there's a lamb shortage. No. You couldn't tell by the market though.

SPEAKER_02 28:52

Good. You gonna be either you got some sheep to sell, get some other people in the sheep business, or are you trying to just hold that all for yourself?

SPEAKER_00 29:02

No, I've got sheep to sell.

SPEAKER_02 29:05

There you go. Use this platform to sell your sheep. If you need a sheep, call Daniel, he'll set you up. Maybe multiple sheep. You gotta have a minimum.

SPEAKER_01 29:15

What are we doing? Tradio here? Man, that escalated quickly. So yeah, hopefully we get E-15 passed. Hopefully we get E-15 through here and uh get some support for this corn market. Uh yeah, a lot of a lot of stuff happening. I think by the time this airs, Trump will have already met with President President Chi, is that how you say it?

SPEAKER_02 29:44

Believe that's correct.

SPEAKER_01 29:45

Close enough. With China. So we'll see how that goes.

SPEAKER_00 29:50

You know, I was just talking about the the sheep prices, but beef prices are still strong too. Do we want to talk about what uh the Trump administration was trying to do with the I don't know if there's anything to talk about or not. Because they tried to and it didn't they didn't do it. Was it the typical like Trump way of just kind of saying that they're gonna do something and then wait, kind of hearing how the everybody reacts to it? And then just, uh no, we just we're talking about it. We're not, I don't think we're gonna do that.

SPEAKER_01 30:19

So, yeah, so what Daniel is talking about is uh the Trump administration had released early this week that they were going to basically do something similar that they announced with Argentina back in the fall, if you remember us talking about that. Uh not really everybody wants to label it as they're just automatically endpoint reporting and gonna flood the market with a bunch of beef. That's not what they're doing. They take the tariffs down and make it a little bit more economical to have beef from these countries imported. But uh, yeah, he had announced that they were gonna do a similar program with Brazil and try and import beef from Brazil to bring beef prices down. And that's every time this administration does this, they claim that it's gonna bring beef prices down. That's the reason they're doing it. That never happens. All it's gonna do is uh the Packers are gonna import this beef and either blend it off with American beef or or uh or sell it not blend it off either one and they're not gonna lower prices, it's just it makes a profitable venture for them uh to bring in this cheaper foreign lower quality beef and be able to turn around and sell it to the American consumer. It doesn't bring prices down, and it's been that's been proven time and time again. So uh yeah, pretty disappointing when that came out, but I think within like 12 hours of me seeing it, they put something out and said, No, we're never mind, we're putting that on delay, we're not gonna do that. Yeah. Just kidding. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 31:57

So they got enough, they got enough uh backlash on it that they said, ah JK, lol.

SPEAKER_01 32:03

I guess either that or with the didn't they kind of do that with the Argentina deal? And then they let it go a month or two and kind of let the smoke clear and came back and said they were gonna do it again.

SPEAKER_02 32:15

I think that's right. All that was happening about that same time of the potential heifer program that they threw out there that we've not heard anything about since then.

SPEAKER_01 32:27

I'd rather I'd rather Brooke Ritus checks for retaining heifers than that.

SPEAKER_02 32:31

Oh, I agree. I would agree. I would agree a hundred percent. I would agree a hundred percent.

SPEAKER_00 32:38

Oh. On the on the beef topic, I wanted to talk about this for a few weeks because I've been seeing this a lot more lately and seeing things about it. But one of the things that I know about all of us are afraid of is Alpha Gal. Yes, yes, works with the what is it, the Lone Star Tick that carries that. And uh um, and it's that time of year where the the ticks are are out. I haven't seen that they're that bad on me, or even the sheep. When I've been working sheep, I haven't seen that they're that bad, but I've heard people talking about that they are bad. I pulled two off of me. I pulled two off me yesterday. So I may have just jinxed it. Yeah, but yeah, that's that's just pulled one off one of the kids uh Sunday night. So it's it's so one of the reasons I bring that up. I noticed there's a a local restaurant chain that has a food truck specifically to make things in for people who have alpha gal. So like it's yeah, I think it was um the it's just the steak, one of the steakhouses that surrounders, one in Radcliffe. Um Colton's. Colton's, yes. Um it's uh it's like a uh just like a little bus van kind of thing that sits outside and they make things in one of those just I guess beef-free environments. So if you're somebody that has that allergy, your food will be prepared in there. But what but what caught my attention was like, man, this stuff is getting that common that businesses are seeing an opportunity to to make some money. Like it's I think it's more common than we even realize, especially just in, you know, in this area, because uh that's a that's a chain that has several central Kentucky locations. Um I forget which one it's I think it is is it it's at one of their I don't know if it was Bargetown or Campelsville, but like it was gonna be at one of those most of the time, but may move around to some other ones too. So do you like just eat in the parking lot or no, you still eat in the restaurant, but they just pre so that there's no way that your food comes into contact with any of those things or is have a lot of people.

SPEAKER_01 34:36

Is it really that sensitive that your piece of chicken could touch a steak?

SPEAKER_02 34:40

And I think it's I think it's something like peanut allergies can be that you know peanut allergies can can stem people from something that was processed in a facility where other peanuts are processed and they never touch. So, you know, if a spatula is flipping a steak and then flips a uh piece of chicken on the grill, yeah, but it's that could be enough to do it.

SPEAKER_00 35:05

But it's also some of the other like ingredients that you're using to make the meals, you know, some of those may have a beef or uh you know uh beef gelatin or like some sort of beef byproduct that's in there that could set somebody off. So uh yeah, that that that that vehicle there where they're preparing that food is completely free of those things. So it but it also what are they preparing? Just uh the food items that are just guaranteed to not, I don't know what it is exactly. I don't remember. It's not like ostrich burgers or something. Well, can I get to that? Oh, did I ruin your ruined my segue? Well, I was trying to set you up there and you weren't running with it. It led me uh seeing this business venture got me thinking about another business venture, and maybe it's time we bring the ostrich farms back.

SPEAKER_02 35:52

I bet there's people out there listening that would say I will bet you all five dollars. I get a text message from a previous ostrich girl on Saturday morning. So he will not be bringing the ostrich back.

SPEAKER_00 36:06

Do you know why that would be do you know like what the what the reasoning would be, like what it has to do with Alpha Gal?

SPEAKER_02 36:13

Because it because ostrich is technically a bird. I mean it's a bird. It's poultry.

SPEAKER_00 36:20

But it's it's something about the ostrich meat, it's it's very similar in texture to beef. Okay. And so if you had an ostrich burger, it's you know, as far as like you could I I've never had one, don't plan on having one, but evidently it's like you could technically eat an ostrich burger and it would fulfill that like if you were really needing a burger. You're just craving a burger, but you can't eat one. You eat an ostrich burger and it's like the closest thing you can get. Listen to Daniel.

SPEAKER_01 36:49

Man, back in the in the early 90s, Daniel would have been at the top of the pyramid on that.

SPEAKER_02 36:55

He would have been. He would have been.

SPEAKER_01 36:57

He was talking it up, man. He's got all the selling points.

SPEAKER_02 37:02

Weren't they after the eggs? Weren't the eggs where the biggest money was? So how do you feel about worm farms, Daniel?

SPEAKER_00 37:12

That's another one. Yep, I knew people that got burned by that one too. Yeah. Was that early 2000s? Seems like late 90s.

SPEAKER_02 37:23

Yeah. The ostriches were first. They were probably the mid-90s.

SPEAKER_01 37:28

But the worm deal, there never was an end consumer for those, wasn't it? Wasn't it just right on the next person that wanted to get the colour? Yeah. Shocker that that ever collapsed.

SPEAKER_00 37:46

No what you do. You have your worm farm, you catch your worm cast, is it what's their poop called? Is it worm castings? You catch that, you throw it in a slurry, you slur it up, and then you got you a biological. Go spray it on the tools. Hey. There you go. Now you're telling me.

SPEAKER_02 38:05

So speaking of worms, I was coming through town the other day and I saw this truck that is a box truck. Not like a great big semi-box truck, but like a like a ton truck with a box on it, maybe a little, maybe a two-ton truck. But anyway, it on the side of it, it was such and such a worm farm bait. It was like bait, it was a bait farm for worms. And it said, are worms catch fish or die trying? I was like, that's probably the best catchphrase for fishing worms I've ever heard in my life. That's pretty good. So I wish I could remember the name of it, but they probably used AI to come up with that.

SPEAKER_01 38:51

More than likely. That's pretty good. Let's hope not.

SPEAKER_02 38:57

Let's hope not. So Daniel, I it says on here a good chair appreciation.

SPEAKER_00 39:05

Yeah, so this is a this is not this is not an ag story at all, but it's funny. So whenever um, you know, you all you all got married, and then uh did you have a piece of furniture that you just was kind of part of your bachelor life or part of your old life that you just really enjoyed and just didn't want to get rid of?

SPEAKER_01 39:26

I still had a recliner that actually my preacher gave to me when I moved into my house in college, and it lived see, I was in the dorm the first year, so it lived three years in bowling green in a college boys house with four college boys. And then it came back to my house after, and I thought it was a fine piece of furniture, but my wife did not.

SPEAKER_03 39:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 39:59

So I had I had a couple pieces of furniture that I had to part ways with. I'm not salty about it at all, but um you know I'm still salty about the green couch. The green couch was it was the most comfortable couch. It was the most comfortable climbers on each end, and uh it was just uh it was a good one. It was one of them Craigslist finds. Actually, I think I sold it for what I gave for it, you know, like one of them deals. Uh, but yeah, I had to get rid of that one. But then I had this office chair, and this office chair was um I I actually kind of stole it from the dumpster of Springfield State Bank. It was the president's chair, and you know, it was one of these leather chairs with buttons on it on the end of the arms and stuff, and it just it leaned back just perfectly, where like you could lean back and and you know, stick your feet up on the desk, and it but it would you it'd almost go all the way over, but you know what I mean? But like it doesn't. So yeah, best, you know, best chair. The only thing was like the where it was like the the leather upholstery or whatever, there was it was wearing on the arms a little bit and on the corners. But other than that, perfect chair. I mean, just comfortable and uh but it it was big, you know, it had the big square uh back on it, it set up real tall. Like it was it was nice, at one time it was a really nice chair. Uh but it still had a lot of life left. Well, anyway, get married and you know starting to thin out some of those things. The green couch was gone, and that was like one of the last things left, and I was told it had to go, so it it went out. I can't remember. I did it make it to the new house? No, no, this was the first house at marriage, and and and it was I well, I don't even think it was a yard cell. I think we moved it out to the end of the driveway. And of course it was gone in no time, and I was like, see the nice chair? I was like, see, there was it was still a good chair. We probably actually I was kind of like, we should have just got 10 bucks for it, maybe, but anyway. Um so you know, long time had gone by, and I'd kind of forgot about this chair. Well, I see a picture, I get a picture sent to me from uh Central Harden High School, and one of our listeners, Robbie Kaufman, is leaned back in a chair, and it is the same, it is my chair. And somehow this chair got picked up, and and my wife took the picture because she thought she was like, That's that's our chair, like that was Daniel's chair, and she was trying to troll me with it anyway.

SPEAKER_01 42:15

And then is it actually the same chair?

SPEAKER_00 42:17

It I like I can't, I didn't do a DNA test, but it is you should have like carved your initials on the bottom of the kitchen or something before you. I'm 98% sure like it's worn in all the same places. The like everything looks the same with this chair. So somebody at some time picked this chair up off the road and brought it to Central Harden High School, and it's been like popping around some classrooms, and it just so happened to be in this classroom that they were in uh doing some testing, and and she's so she sent me that. And and and you know, you ever have like a you know, let's go back before you we got married, and you know, you had a girlfriend, right? And then she broke up with you, and then you see that girlfriend with somebody else, and it just kind of hurts you. That's how I felt when I saw Robbie Kaufman sitting in that chair. So anyway, um might may or may not be plotting to try to get into Central Art in High School and steal that chair back.

SPEAKER_01 43:09

I can't believe you didn't write your name on the bottom of it. I should have. Could have been like in Toy Story with Woody instead of Andy, it could have been Daniel with the N backwards.

SPEAKER_00 43:18

Yep. But I I had that chair for a long time, and I realized I'm actually really surprised it still it still has a life. It it it lived on.

SPEAKER_02 43:30

But see, that should be a lesson though, that you know, just because it leaves your house or your spouse thinks it needs to leave your house doesn't mean it's wore out. That's true. There you go.

SPEAKER_00 43:43

That's some words of wisdom for this week.

SPEAKER_02 43:46

Well, speaking of treasures, I think we're need to be about wrapping this up, but you know who's probably got plenty of treasures? Who's that? Southern States Harden Co op. And if you're looking for a pot of gold, you Price fertilizer lately? They go yes, unfortunately. They got a a building full of it, so it's gonna be the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.

SPEAKER_01 44:10

So uh fertilized buildings full.

SPEAKER_02 44:15

Well, I'm not gonna say I well, I don't know. I don't I'm not gonna speak out a turn. They have fertilizer.

SPEAKER_01 44:20

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 44:21

Does that work? So if you need fertilizer or feed or supplies.

SPEAKER_01 44:28

Seed.

SPEAKER_02 44:29

Seed. Pretty much anything you can get it a good straw. Oh we got a straw hat story for next week. Daniel got him a new one.

SPEAKER_00 44:36

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02 44:38

So we'll just tease you on that one for a little bit.

SPEAKER_00 44:40

Yeah, you gotta protect the bald head.

SPEAKER_01 44:44

Protected like the bald eagle. Alright.

SPEAKER_00 44:47

On that note, we will see next week. Thank y'all for listening to Dirt the Dollars. I'll see you next week.