The Happy Writer with Marissa Meyer

Guest: June Hur

April 19, 2020 Marissa Meyer Season 2020 Episode 7
The Happy Writer with Marissa Meyer
Guest: June Hur
The Happy Writer with Marissa Meyer
Guest: June Hur
Apr 19, 2020 Season 2020 Episode 7
Marissa Meyer

Marissa Meyer:   0:06
there. Hello and welcome to the happy Writer, a podcast that aims to bring you fun, inspiring interviews with some of your favorite authors and maybe also introduced you to some new ones. This podcast is also for all of you writers who were tuning in. We want to try to help you bring as much joy and balance into your writing life as possible. I am your host, Marisa Meyer. I am the author of The Lunar Chronicles, The Renegades trilogy and Heartless. Still reporting from quarantine during the Corona virus pandemic of 2020. Thanks for joining me. I hope you are staying healthy and keeping busy and all of our time of social distancing And what sort of starting to feel like endless isolation. Ah, but thankfully, we have technology and we can all be here together virtually if not in person. And I am very happy to be virtually meeting today's guest. She is a debut author. Her novel The Silence of Bones, comes out this month on April 21st. Please welcome to the show, June her.

June Hur:   1:21
Hi. Thank you for inviting me.

Marissa Meyer:   1:23
Thank you so much for joining me today. I'm very excited to talk to you. We're we're publishing buddies. We have we share a imprint. It's

June Hur:   1:33
yet when I was offered the Brookdale well before I was off the book details, I was like looking up also, who's who did you know, file and friends publish. And then I saw your name, and I was like,

Marissa Meyer:   1:44
Oh, that was the deciding factor, I'm sure, sure, of course. Of course you would go with Final and friends. Okay, So you're in Canada. Is that right? Yes. Canada, Toronto, Toronto. I love Toronto. It's a beautiful city. Such nice people it is. And so how I haven't spoken to anyone from Canada. How are you guys faring up there?

June Hur:   2:08
So in the beginning, it was a bit easy going. But then now it's getting pretty empty like a lot of the stores are looking down. Um, just last night, that was like a list of all the things all the, you know, businesses that would be shut down. So I think it's gonna get even quieter and quieter out on the streets. But I wouldn't know, but I haven't been out all day. Yeah, it's It's Yeah, it's a strange time.

Marissa Meyer:   2:39
It is a strange time. I feel like we're all kind of trying to make the best of it. Also, just, like, not really knowing what gonna happen next or how long it's gonna last. It's It's a very strange time. Um, yeah, but in this strange time, at least we have free time to do things like start new podcasts. Been right, Bugs.

June Hur:   3:04
Is this what inspired you? Just like this? Quarantine Kerry

Marissa Meyer:   3:08
Come in part, Um, it's I I've been thinking of doing a podcast for a while. Um, but then with the quarantine thing happening and then hearing about all of these writers who are having books coming out right now and really struggling to find ways to promote them because everyone's tours have been canceled and you know, bookstores air struggling. Um, and I was trying to think of, Well, what can I do to help out these writers who have books coming out and that Well, maybe this is the time to launch the podcast. And then I can talk to people and promote and connect with each other, and yeah,

June Hur:   3:45
now it's pretty amazing. I find that with this with what's going on, it's awful on and it's, you know, awful for everyone on, but it's not the best time to be debuting right now. But then I find that I don't know what it is for, just like everyone has been. There's been an outpouring of support, like especially from established authors like yourself. So it's It's been the worst of times in the best of time.

Marissa Meyer:   4:10
Exactly. How about that? Um, yeah, I know. And that's one of the wonderful things that I love about the white community Is that you do see authors rallying around each other, especially when times get tough like this, which is always inspiring to see. Um So yes. So you have a book coming out, do I? The first time I read the description of it, it gave me literal chills. Um, the Silence of Bones. I love the title. It sounds so creepy and atmospheric in the best possible way. Eso please tell us Tell us all about the book will not all but tell us what you can tell us.

June Hur:   4:54
So the silence of loans has said in Tolleson Dynasty, Korea, and specifically it's the 1800 and it's about an indentured servant named Cell who must assist a young inspector in solving the case of a murdered noblewoman, but there's more to the case than meets the eye. So that's the elevator pitch I've learned that I must have memorized as a debut.

Marissa Meyer:   5:18
You rate the elevator pitches hard, you nailed it. So I have never written historical fiction, Was not sure. I wrote like one historical fiction story for an anthology. And I had to research for that one story for, like, a month s o. Do you enjoy researching or did you already know a lot about this time period?

June Hur:   5:47
Yeah, I love this question was I'm I'm a big history nerd. Um, so I actually knew very little about cream history. Even though I am a Crean and, you know, I was raised by very traditionally Korean parents. I grew up like I spent most of my life in Canada, and I even in university, focused mainly on British history because I just fell in love with British history after reading like, you know, Jeanne, Here's what Jane Austen's work and show that Bronte's work. And you know all that the blood minutes and the carriages and the morally.

Marissa Meyer:   6:26
And I told him that who didn't fall in love with bag.

June Hur:   6:31
Um, but then I tried. I'm getting one of my British historical fictions published over Over, like, a decade, But it wasn't working out. And then I just got burnt out and I was like, You know, like, I love history and I love researching about history. Um, so I tried to figure out, like, what other histories I want to double in on and considered at first of my bubble. American history is really cool, But then I'm like, Ah, but, you know, I don't feel that personal connection because I live all day in Canada something Oh, maybe I should try looking into Canadian history. But then it just did. It really clicked with me and then finally like, I don't like looking to create mystery like like I lived in Korea for a few years when I was in high school. And, you know, I just remember sleeping through history class like I don't know. But then I was just curious. And so I just picked up like a scholarly, um, like article into Crean's creates past. And then I was reading out like I just fell madly in love like it was so bad. I asked like the history and it was like it was like so, you know, violent And yet so, um, just delegate and glorious. And I was like, Oh, my gosh, like, how did I live all my life, not knowing about Korean history? And so when I began researching, I didn't realize it would be so challenging. But, um, because, you know, there there's a very limited amount of Korean history, the further back in time you go because not a lot has been translated by, you know, scholars and such as, I think it's like a demanding There isn't as much of a demand right now for, like the chosen period, which is like the know the 13 late 13 hundreds to the late 18 hundreds. Um, there's a bit because of people Look at the the Korean War in the colonization, but continuing backwards like there's get there's a less and less research. And so when I was researching, it took like a year of just like building of the foundation, because I had zero knowledge. Um, and I'd read English articles, but when I tried to find a really niche details. My book is about Thomas, which were the first, um, group of female police officers in Korea. And they apparently like, according to Wikipedia, I don't know how true that is, but they were like the first female police force with arresting car in world history and all that. Oh, that's so cool. But that's almost all the information there is in English. And so I had to read a lot of Korean articles about these female officers, and I'm like, I'm food and cream, but not to the degree of being able to understand school in the articles. And so it's been like ours, just trying to understand paragraphs. And the thing with current Korean scholarly sources is they used. They also use Chinese characters. And so I'm like, Oh, my God, translating Chinese characters as well on. So yeah, that was my exchanges. Pretty challenging. Um, but also very rewarding this. Well,

Marissa Meyer:   10:03
that's so much commitment on your part.

June Hur:   10:05
No, no, I like Why

Marissa Meyer:   10:06
do this to why? Why did you do that to yourself? What was it about? This worry that you felt so compelled to stick with it? I don't

June Hur:   10:16
know what it is about history. Just history in general fascinates me so much. I think it's just the idea that, like, you almost see that human nature sometimes never changes. And you see it repeating one in vernal these people making the same mistakes again and again and again. Um And then the history that particularly interested me was, um though is the first Catholic persecution in Korea in 18? 01 And that was interesting. But then what really have me was the fact that the entire Korean government was on the hunt for this last Catholic priest, and I was like, Oh, this sounds like a thrill if it like,

Marissa Meyer:   10:59
my goodness, how in asking.

June Hur:   11:02
So they were like on the hunt for this priest who'd smuggled himself in from China. And so I kind of moulded a mystery novel around this historical fact. So, yeah, like I just thought it was really cool.

Marissa Meyer:   11:17
Yeah, that is cool. I also will obviously you now know a lot about Korean history. But what? You said that when you started, you knew nothing. And I know nothing about Korean history at all. And that is so fascinating. I'm curious when you had the idea for this book on dure researching for this book. How much did your research change? What you had thought or planned for the story.

June Hur:   11:43
Oh, so much So when I began writing, I I actually imagined my book being like a woman section. So it would be about an older protagonist, and she'd be befriending like, um this the queen and she become like the creams. Best friend, somehow I don't know on and slowly she go on this journey to discovering yourself on the Ben as I was researching and learning more about just the tension between, um, traditional Korea and the West. So basically, Korea, back then they had their doors closed off to the west, and any kind of Western knowledge or teaching or even like a religion, was totally blocked off. And if you had any, like, you know, connection to it. If you have even a book from, you know, about Western signs or something, you'd be basically executed. You die. Yeah, That tension was so fascinating to me, and the women's fiction just wasn't doing it like it wasn't really. I was like all the things I was learning about through history was I just felt like there was this tension that needed to be explored. And, you know, there would be a lot of dead parties involved in the group. How we connect the home inspection, this tense, violent situation going on in history. And so I just naturally, actually not. Naturally, I didn't naturally gravitate towards Mr I wrote the women's fiction. That was a first draft. And then my friend read it and then she's like, you know, Chapter One was amazingly, I felt, you know, I I love the mystery, and I want to see what happened with an after Chuck from Tractor to, like the mystery disappearance about this woman's journey. What's going on? And so that's when it clicked to me like, Oh, like, maybe I This isn't the story I was meant to write. Maybe there's this other street like calling to me. And so I began reading that, and then it kind of turned into a Y A. As I wrote it,

Marissa Meyer:   13:50
So did you. Pretty much like have to scrap everything after Chapter one, but it sounds like you found your groove.

June Hur:   13:59
I did, Yeah.

Marissa Meyer:   14:00
Yeah, And now you're working on a second book. Is it a continuation of the same story.

June Hur:   14:07
So it's another stunned alone. Why mystery? It's also yes, it also mystery set in the same period, but much earlier. So in the 14 hundreds,

Marissa Meyer:   14:18
not some more research. Yeah, Yeah. Even farther back, even trying. And there was

June Hur:   14:27
that. Now I have to write under a deadline. I can't anything like gonna spend entire year. Just a few Syria s. So it's been it's 20 challenge, but but yes, it's working out so far.

Marissa Meyer:   14:41
Yeah. No. Learning to write under a deadline is definitely something that we all struggle with. I think especially for that second book. Uh, yeah, when you've had the glory of all the time in the world to finish that first book. But I'm sure I'm sure you'll you'll get it. Are you? When is your dead lying?

June Hur:   15:02
Um, so the deadlines already passed.

Marissa Meyer:   15:07
So in their hair, you're fine.

June Hur:   15:11
I, um I started my editor. So what I did was I should have probably sent her the entire management, but I'm like,

Marissa Meyer:   15:18
Oh, no, I'm still so far behind.

June Hur:   15:21
And so I set for the first half. Like when you're halfway through. I'll have last time

Marissa Meyer:   15:26
ready for you. Okay? She's She's very

June Hur:   15:29
suit like that. Um, so So then once she had it, I quickly worked on the last half of it, and I did submit it, but I There's still a few chapters that are more like placeholders that I need

Marissa Meyer:   15:42
me a

June Hur:   15:42
little bit more on. But I wanted her opinion before make actually fleshing it out and stuff.

Marissa Meyer:   15:48
Yeah, I'm a fan of the placeholder chapter.

June Hur:   15:51
Oh, is that a thing? I'm just

Marissa Meyer:   15:53
I and I. It's a thing Ideo. I don't know how many directors, Teoh. Yeah, No, I think because for me, like there's times when I have an idea of what needs to happen. It's chapter. But I I'm still kind of trying to figure out maybe the end of the book or care has preservation, and it's like, Well, I could write something, but it's all gonna change. So what's the point?

June Hur:   16:17
It was me.

Marissa Meyer:   16:18
Yes. Use those tools.

June Hur:   16:20
Yeah, not. And this seems like

Marissa Meyer:   16:22
it. Yeah, yeah. Something. Something. The end. I want to go back. Something you mentioned earlier when you were talking about your research. Ah, the main character in the Silence of Bones. She's Ah, Domus. Yes. A terrible Tom. Oh, yeah. Um and I When I was reading about your book, I also went to that Wikipedia was like, What the heck is this? I've never heard of this before. Um, and I am now absolutely fascinated by this idea of thes these women who were harshly police officers but kind of also slaves at the same time they write. How did you even how how did that come up in your research? Was that kind of a part of the inspiration? Really early on.

June Hur:   17:15
So when I was researching, I was when I was in university, it kind of opened my eyes up to, you know, things like feminism and gender segregation. And I saw that a lot in when I was studying about, um, like Victorian England. But then and so I always just imagine all it's just in like, I never thought it would be like that segregation would have happened in Korea as well. But then, as I was researching about the time of the police, female police like initial like Oh, that's so empowering like, you know, giving women these police rules that then quit their slave as Well, what's going on? S o The the story behind that is that Korea was a very steeped in Confucian ism back then and still is. And basically one of the rules was that men were not allowed to touch women who are not related to them. And likewise, women were not allowed to touch men who are not related to them. And, you know, women were so especially the aristocratic women. They be like, sheltered in their house. They're not allowed to leave the woman's quarter unless there in pelicans or have, like, a kind of a robe to hide their face. And so there was that segregation and the problem that occurred from that was that in places like the police Bureau and even the palace, like for example, that would be, you know, princesses and quick means. And if they get sick, they need someone to, you know, tend to them. But then the physicians were all male that like Oh, no, like, you know what to do.

Marissa Meyer:   18:58
And I can't

June Hur:   18:59
have the men touching these royal female Royals. And so from that, like from that segregation and you know, it's steeped in Pedro. But from that they ended up creating, like female nurses, to work with the female roles Royals and the same thing happened in the police barrels. Like these men, they be dealing with female victims and culprits. But then that, like open, we can't touch them. And so they ended up using female servants, as you know, an extension of them to to go into woman's quarters to arrest female women's or just to deal with women in general. And so, you know, on their downtime they'd be investigating. But most of the time they'd be serving tea or like doing doing, like, other like, um, slave work. Seven work and stuff like that. So, yeah, it occurred from the segregation. And so at in one hand, it's like, very it's formed from a very oppressive kind of mentality. But at the same time, like you see these women taking advantage of their role and, you know, kicking butt with

Marissa Meyer:   20:11
yes, as we dio Yeah, that's just a wonderful basis for a character. Um, and I mean, I know as a writer I love playing with characters who were in social situations of, you know, oppression or ah, abuse. You know, these various things, but at the same time, through whatever means in the story, are able to also uncover a power that they have an ability that they have to really make a difference. And I love that.

June Hur:   20:45
It's very important. You think

Marissa Meyer:   20:47
it's very empowering and such a fun, a fun dichotomy to read about, um, in your character. Um, all right, I want to switch gears a little bit because I was looking at your blawg and you have, uh, one of your recent blogged posts. I had just this incredibly heartfelt an honest story, Um, that you posted about some of the struggles that you went through when you were speaking, publication on and and how over time and facing a lot of rejection, I think the word that you used was that you started to feel irrelevant for not getting published. And I think that is something that so many writers and aspiring writers can relate. Teoh. So I really wanted to ask you about that and kind of what that time was like for you and some things that maybe you did too. Um, overcome that.

June Hur:   21:46
Yes. So I think in the beginning, just the fact that I was querying was it was It was something that I was very proud about. I was like, just the fact that I was able to finish a book and, you know, take the step out into the quarrying world. I thought it was, you know, for all office. It's such an achievement, does not easy toe fit and finish a book. But then, I think because I kept I was stuck in the quarry trenches for years and years and years and then after a while, like I think it's definitely social media it like I see on my no, a lot of good writing friends and, you know, they'd be getting booked agents and book deals, and, you know, I'd be so happy for them. But then it just makes it just stuck. Teoh, you know, make me wonder. I guess there's something wrong with me. There's something wrong with my writing, and it kind of eats up at your confidence when, um, social media makes her journey such a public one. And you know, in retrospect, I don't think anyone was judging me, but by the piece I was going at. But then I think you know we're so hard on ourselves. And so for me, I was just like, Imagine my God, No, like, it's been 10 years now and nothing has have been like and And there was still a bit of hope in me that, um you know, maybe when Dad get published. But then I think after the last round of currying for the first book that I wrote, which is now shelf it just I just just hit me one day, like, you know, maybe I'll never get published. And when that reality hit me like, I just looked at my life as it wasn't Allah night and I just wondered like, would I be happy with the life that I'm living now if I never get published? But then I realized that I just saw, like, this wasteland. All I did was, you know, right all day from morning until late at night. And, you know, I've neglect friendships. I rarely went out to socialize this. I always told myself, you know, like, once I get published, then I'm gonna live my life on. And so, um, university hardly went into Teoh. Any social events, um, like things like even my personal hell. But my personal mental health, Like I put I put all that on hold because I told myself, you know, it's not now. Not now is not the time to, you know, be living life to the fullest. I'm gonna live my life to the fullest later. Um, so when it struck me that I might not get published it just like all the all the things that a stalker face just like, you know, hit me in the face. And I realized, um, you know, like, I was living a life on hold for this whole time, and and I think because I was putting everything on hold it, I also realized it was a very deep rooted identity thing where I tied writing so much to my own identity. And so the thought of not getting published may we feel irrelevant, Mike, you know, almost like I didn't have a right to speak or to share my story. Um, so that was what was going on in my head around. It was around 2016. Um, and I think, and yeah, just like that sense of a relevance it I think it comes from just like the fact that writing is so all consuming. Sometimes, like you literally like if you don't have a family or, you know, a full time job, you can just wake up in the morning and is right until nighttime and without ready. I just didn't know what to do with my day. I didn't know what to do with my life. Um, so I was pretty like a dark time I was going through. But then, just one day, like out of the blue, it just suddenly occurred to me that we as humans are so much more complicated than a single passion, like we we like sometimes you know, there's a saying, like, you know, reach for the stars. Um, and for me, I had one star which was publication. But then I realized, you know, there's so many stars out there. There's so many dreams and passions out there that I haven't just haven't tapped into, like I'm I was I'm so I'm so much more complicated. And and there's so much more potential enemy than one single, very specific dream on DSO that really inspired me to just put writing aside for, you know, for me I was willing to just put it aside forever. But I just told myself, you know, for now, let's put it aside and find out what else I'm very passionate about. Um and so I dedicated just a year to exploring. And, I mean, a lot of bold moves, like I just decide to go back to school on. So I had borrowed money from my parents, and I went into teaching. Um and that was so much fun. Like, I made so many great friends, so many great memories. Um, teaching was not easy. Lesson planning is so hard. So after I got my teaching certificate, I kind of dabbled in teaching for a bit. I started dating, and that's how I met my husband s. Oh, that was a nice detour.

Marissa Meyer:   27:14
I should say so. Yeah, and

June Hur:   27:17
it s Oh, yeah, I just I just had a lot of fun, and I lived life and and it just helped me kind of untangle this tight. Not I'd created between my identity and writing. And I realized, you know, I can go at my own pace if whether I get published or not, I can still live a very fulfilling life. And I think that realization really helped me overcome the fear of any further rejection bond. It made the idea of pursuing publication long term, like whether different of the year, like 10 years or 20 or 30 years. It just made it so much easier Does it Felt Laker had less at stake, like right? Didn't he was no longer at stake. My sense of relevance was no longer at stake. And so and so, yeah, I like it. Just liked in the load of it. And I think that really helped me just get through another round of court like I create again. Once I finished my debut on and it worked out well, I landed an agent, but I feel like even if it hadn't worked, that I would have been they get a much better mental state and I would have been much happier rather than yeah.

Marissa Meyer:   28:32
Do you feel like taking that time for yourself? Did it change or impact your writing or your writing process at all? E think

June Hur:   28:43
it may yet I think it made me more appreciate it. Like I appreciated people or more than I was Soul Eisley. That I was like the most extremist hermit. I could write work for days like and not leave the house. It was like I was in, like, the quarantine right now. That was I was my left. Help.

Marissa Meyer:   29:06
A common refrain among a lot of authors right now. Like what things have changed

June Hur:   29:13
tells me and like I think, and I'd be writing about people in relationships, but I don't. But I think

Marissa Meyer:   29:22
it was

June Hur:   29:23
very lake. I think it was very It was a very superficial, their to it. And that's why you know, when I was, like revising Lee, resubmitting for agency, always the one comet always have. It's like they feel like the characters are not complicated enough. Like I don't know who your heroin is. Can you add more complexity? Can you add more death? Two motions and I was like, I'm trying to think about what I wrote was amazing, but it's not good enough. But then, yeah, that year of just going getting away from my computer screen and building relationships, it just helped me right. Teach me how to write a proper story. I think it is like the end of they were writing about life. But then how can we read about life of Ronald living life, right?

Marissa Meyer:   30:11
Yes, that that could be a quote. That could be a bumper sticker.

June Hur:   30:15

Marissa Meyer:   30:16
know, I think that that is really so important. And it is easy to forget sometimes, Um one. Yes. If you do have this goal of being published, that can be all consuming at times. But then even after post publication, and as you are dealing with deadlines and you know that doesn't necessarily go away this compulsion, Teoh hide in your cave and do nothing but right all the time. Um, but I do think that it benefits us to kind of push back against that and and, like you say, go out and live life and have experiences beyond just what's happening between you and your characters.

June Hur:   30:56
But I agree. Yes, it's like with my old mentality. I told myself, you know, life goes on hold until I get published. But now I know that I keep pressing that button. I feel like all right on hold until I You know some of my deadline or you know yes. Enough. Don't keeps moving.

Marissa Meyer:   31:15
Yes, So I know. Obviously you're on deadline right now, and it can be so hard to have any sort of life balance when you're in the midst of a deadline. But do you feel like you're better able to to balance your life and get away from the writing when you need to?

June Hur:   31:35
It's It's hard because I think my like my default mode is I'm over colic and so I just love working, working, working. Um, but I think when I so for me before I got, um, you know went through that year of exploration thing like I didn't really have a friend to, you know, just called him like a on the tang out. Actually, I didn't so, like, for me, my friends were my characters knows that, But it's true. Oh, when I met my husband, when he just became my best friend, and so with like, even though I want deadline right now, it's like it's almost like having a puffy like I have to play what he wants to loud and hang out and on the go Cates and they speak to have And so I end up going out with him. So I think that's why friendships are so important this? Yeah, just, you know, like helps you encourages you to live life a bit. Um, yeah, that that really helps. And I think what also helps is because I had that initial leg realization that my work isn't connected to my sense of my identity. It like, even if, like, things might not be going well, whether it's with, you know, deadlines or debuting like I have that kind of moment of, like, realization, like It's OK, you know? You know whether things you know go your way or not like, it's not the end of the world. It's not the end of who you are, like life will go on. And so I think that kind of perspective helps me from, like, spiraling into a dark place.

Marissa Meyer:   33:20
Mm. What would you say if you could go back and talk to your yourself? Your 2016 self? What would you tell her?

June Hur:   33:27
She is so stubborn.

Marissa Meyer:   33:30
Exactly what you mean, Uh,

June Hur:   33:34
like, she like the 2000 pre 2016 June like she's the sort that needs to hit rock bottom to learn Houma. But I would have told her like, but I would have told her that no one is judging her out. I've told myself that you know you can take as long as you need. And no one is judging you that you know your story is still important to even though maybe no one might be noticing it and whether you get published or not like there's so many other creative outlets out there like you can self polish. Or you could publish online because I think at the end of the day, like all I really craved was connecting with readers. Mm. Traditional publishing isn't like, you know, the die hard, like you must get published. Two reached other readers. The realities of the, you know, with the Internet, there's so many more routes that we can take. And so I think it's very ill. I wished. I wish I could have told the younger June that you know that. You know, just as creative as we are as authors, we we should learn to be creative with, you know, just, you know, like logically creative with how to handle when we reached that ends and so on. Yeah, I know. Sometimes I

Marissa Meyer:   35:00
think we get so stuck on you know 11 goal or one pathway that We think this is the only way that yeah, we can kind of turn on blinders toe, other possibilities. Well, thank you so much for sharing that story. I think it's super inspiring and really great advice. Um, you know, if all those the stubborn, aspiring writer there, um So your book comes out soon. April 21st. Um, What were you going to have a book tour before all this?

June Hur:   35:40
I was going to do a book launch. And then I was supposed to go to Chicago for an event at the writers Museum. I think I'm getting pushed online now.

Marissa Meyer:   35:51
Yeah. So what are you doing to promote coming up to this

June Hur:   35:56
on the April 23rd? Ugly. Or for a Thursday? Um, the Thursday off my, um my publication week. I'm going to do a virtual book lodge with catch. Oh, she's the author of Wicked Fox. And yeah, I think it's gonna be fun on instagram. We're gonna didn't give them life.

Marissa Meyer:   36:19
Oh, cool. Well, that hon e, I hope it goes well for you. You so too? Yeah, I know. It's Ah, it's tricky. I can only imagine how tricky it is right now. Um, promoting with with everything going on, we have very short attention spans. But now I think of virtual launches. It is a great idea, and then you can reach the whole world. It doesn't just have to Toronto. That's true. Um, okay, we're gonna do a quick, happy writer. Lightning round. Okay. Okay. What book makes you happy?

June Hur:   36:58
Mm. I would say Jane Austen's persuasion.

Marissa Meyer:   37:02
I love persuade. And it's conundrum satiated Jane Austen. Where

June Hur:   37:07
I agree. I agree.

Marissa Meyer:   37:10
Uh, what do you do to celebrate an accomplishment?

June Hur:   37:14
I by coffee or bubble

Marissa Meyer:   37:17
Teoh? Perfect. How do you fill the creative Well, read

June Hur:   37:26
and watch TV.

Marissa Meyer:   37:28
Uh, this one you can choose to answer. What are you reading now or what is next on your TV are,

June Hur:   37:35
um right now I'm reading the anthology edited by Patrice Caldwell called The Phoenix Whispered.

Marissa Meyer:   37:45
Okay, Lastly, where can people find you?

June Hur:   37:49
As he could find me on Twitter at writer June her or on my instagram at June? Each rates.

Marissa Meyer:   37:59
All right, That is all that I had. Thank you so much for joining me, June.

June Hur:   38:04
Thank you so much for inviting me. It was good chatting with you.

Marissa Meyer:   38:07
It was good chatting with you two and good luck with the launch and I cannot wait to read it. I'm gonna pester our publisher to send me a copy right away. Hey, you, um readers make sure to check out June's book, The Silence of Bones, which comes out on April 21st. But it is currently available for pre order, so don't wait. Um, and don't forget right now to support your local indie booksellers, if you possibly can. Thanks so much for listening. Everyone, please click. Subscribe. Um, subscribing is one easy way to support me as I'm trying to establish this podcast in a vast ocean of other podcast. You can also follow me on Instagram at Marisa Meyer author or contact me at my website marissa Mayer dot com, and let me know what author you would like me to interview in a future episode until next time. Stay healthy, stay cozy in your bunkers. And please do your best today to try and make someone else's life a little bit. There