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Gerson Frau ~ Yoga's Role in Coping with Global Changes and Local Impact

• Todd Mclaughlin • Season 1 • Episode 225

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Gerson Frau is a seasoned yoga instructor hailing from Brazil. With roots deeply embedded in the teachings of Dharma Yoga, Gerson has dedicated nearly two decades to the practice and instruction of this transformative philosophy. Over the years, he has made significant contributions to the yoga community by conducting workshops, retreats, and an extensive teacher training program in collaboration with his partner in Mexico City, Adriana. Gerson currently resides in Puerto Escondido, Mexico, where he balances his life as an instructor, a family man, and an active community member involved in sustainability efforts.

Visit Gerson: https://gersonfrau.com/

Key Takeaways:

  • Gerson Frau's journey from Brazil to becoming an influential yoga instructor in Mexico is deeply intertwined with his devotion to Dharma Yoga, taught by his revered teacher, Dharma Mittra.
  • Puerto Escondido is emerging as a significant hub for yoga and surf enthusiasts, offering a unique cultural blend while dealing with the challenges of rapid development.
  • Meditation and mindfulness are powerful tools for maintaining clarity and receiving spiritual guidance, which Gerson credits to his yoga practice's depth and authenticity.

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Todd McLaughlin:

Welcome to Native Yoga Toddcast. So happy you are here. My goal with this channel is to bring inspirational speakers to the mic in the field of yoga, massage, body work and beyond. Follow us at @nativeyoga and check us out at nativeyogacenter.com. All right, let's begin. Hello and welcome to Native Yoga Toddcast my name is Todd McLaughlin, so nice to have you here. I appreciate you tuning in to listen today to my special guest, Gerson Frau, who is located down in Puerto Escondido, Mexico, and his website is gersonfrou.com spelled G, E, R, S, O, N, F, R, A, U, and I have the links in the description wherever you're listening. It'll make it easy. You can click and follow Him, and you'll find his instagram handle is the same, if you like to follow over there, for those of you that are listening would like to see Gershon in person. Go to our YouTube channel,@native yoga, and if you get a chance to send us a comment, a message, send him a message, an email, or reach out to us via any of the platforms. We really appreciate hearing your feedback and what you think about this conversation today, we had a shorter amount of time to converse, but I feel like I could. I got the chance to feel the essence of what Gerson's message is, and his passion for the yoga, his passion for community, reaching out to others and creating an environment where we can listen and share and be helpful to one another. So with that being said, let's go ahead and begin today. My special guest is Gerson Frau, how are you feeling today?

Gerson Frau:

I'm good. Thank you. I just taught a class, and then I have a little things to do and about to leave to little town nearby. So it feels good,

Todd McLaughlin:

amazing. Can you tell me where you're located?

Gerson Frau:

I am located right now in Mexico, southwest coast. It's a little town called Puerto Escondido.

Todd McLaughlin:

Oh, I didn't know you were in Puerto Escondido. Yes, I am. Wow. Man. I was just watching YouTube videos of Nathan Florence charging huge Mexican pipe, and it just looks unbelievable. I mean, so heavy and so consequential. Do you get out in the water there?

Gerson Frau:

I do well, eyes, not at that size. That made that you saw Nathan, you know, big swell a couple of weeks back. But, uh, yes, I do. That's why I moved to here years back. I've been coming to this place over 20 years. Wow. We have been living here for the last seven years almost now.

Todd McLaughlin:

Oh, man, I want to come visit you. I've always wanted to go to play around Candida. Thank

Gerson Frau:

you. To finish a house, wow. After three years of construction and challenging else, we are about to get it done, and I couldn't. I couldn't go visit Dharma for the last past years because of that. You know, I've been thinking about when I go to him as a Dharma, it's been tough to me. You know, when the construction he's gonna say, what do you get yourself into? It trouble? You should live like a yogi. Very simple. I say, yes, you're right.

Todd McLaughlin:

I hear you. How do we get ourselves into the things we're in? But I think you're, I mean, you're a family man, so that's how, because you gotta, you want to be there for your family. Yes, it's true. Yes, where is your Do you mind me asking where your wife is

Gerson Frau:

from? Yeah, she's from Brazil as well. My daughter was born in Brazil, nice, and now my wife is from Brazil, so we all live here in Mexico and for this condido, and then, yeah, you know, it's a good place. Lot of foreigns living here. It's developing since the first time I got here, was 23 Ago, yeah, been changed since then? Yeah, big change, but it's still good, so, you know, for now. And also it's like halfway to New York City. So now that the house is done, almost done, I want to to go visit Dharma more often. You know, I used to go at least twice a year. Oh, wow, yeah. And now it's been a couple of years since I haven't gone back, but I take class with him. Ever, ever, now, ever, why I can with the online. He's so adapt. He's so updated, you know? So, yes,

Todd McLaughlin:

yes, that's cool, man. I hear you. Well, I'm super curious in terms of you said you taught a class today. Are you teaching at a yoga studio? What is the teaching environment?

Gerson Frau:

I teach online three times a week, Monday, Wednesday and Friday, 830 Mexico City time 8:30am and also, I travel a lot for workshops and retreats here in Mexico and sometimes in Brazil, sometimes in the US. And also, we have a program my partner and I, my my yogic partner in Mexico City. We have a teacher training program after, you know, a couple of years, maybe, yeah, some years I was working with dharma. And then, you know, for some reason, you know papers and visa and you know social security number, I couldn't work with him anymore. And well, with the, with the with the group, right with the Dharma yoga center, life of yoga teacher training. And then, you know, I, I thought maybe it's time for me now to do, you know, what people have been offered me to and then I I didn't feel like it was right, because I was working with the Dharma back then. But then, you know, first time I got the news, I was like, Oh, I'm going to talk to dharma about it, you know. And then somehow I said, What Dharma would say? Don't worry about it, you know, you can come here. So what you're concerned, things change, and then it was time to move on. And then I didn't, I didn't have that conversation with her. That was my meditation, right? That I feel that I was connected with him. So, yeah. So I said, Okay, you have to accept that, you know, change, and you know, now maybe it's the time to do your thing, and you know, and then I said no, but I have to talk to dharma before, you know, asking his blessings and his permission, which I did. And then he gave me everything. And then we started this program my friend in Mexico City, which is also a student of dharma, ad liana. And then we started writing the manual slowly. And, you know, after a year writing, working on the program, it's we, we created this. You can call it, created the sadaqa training program, which is the teacher training, which pretty much, honestly, Todd, since you're a student of dharma, and I say that to everyone, it's, it's Dharma yoga, because I can't do anything else, but that, I've been doing that for almost 20 years, so wouldn't be fair. I think to make something up, right? Just to, just to call it Gerson yoga, whatever you know, it's everything I learned was from him, and I'm so devoted. So I feel so blessed and honored, humbled to have received that and keep receiving all these teachings from him, all over these years, even though I'm not going to New York, you know, like through meditation, through daily practice, through selfless work, whatever you can call but you can keep receiving that, if you're open to to this transmission, that he's so welcome. He's so giving, right, generous and loving. And then, you know, and then it's been, it's been good, good pathway, good, good journey that we have been doing. Adriana, she's also great. She's very structured, and, you know, she knows how to put things together. I am not that good. I am kind of similar to the teacher. I'm more spontaneous. I don't prefer class much. I like to be, you know, like in a set of SAT, big mood, if I can. So then teachings by themselves, they just express, and then those are the best sharing that we can do, right without putting too much our own stuff into it. Good plan. So it was a good match, and it's been good. So since I travel a lot for that program, because it's in Mexico City, and also I travel a lot for workshops and retreats, and also the online classes that I am, I like to be exclusive online give. And students live streaming like 100% of my attention. So then, if I set up a two, three time program here in puertos, Candido will be too much. You know, sometimes I just come traveling, and then I'm just burnt, physically understood, and I have a class on Monday morning. Now, I had a long weekend and, and, you know, I, I don't, I don't like canceling classes. Oh

Todd McLaughlin:

yeah, just Yeah. Do you think Puerto Escondido could handle a full time yoga studio? Do you think that

Gerson Frau:

today, today, yes, there's a lot of it's becoming like sort of place like Bali, but in a Mexican way, and surfing, you know, like atmosphere hopefully stays like that. We are trying to get involved with the community when, you know, and sometimes Mexican governments don't run in a proper way. So we have to do our own thing and try to protect and try to, you know, like somehow be very aware what's going on, what's happening. And, you know, even myself, I'm dealing with the construction now. I'm completing some stuff, even some trees. I had to take it out, but I planted many trees already, you know. So we are trying to, we are next week, we're planning about 10 trees again. So, you know, we are trying to do our best for the community here as well. And I'd love to have like a regular, like people come to Puerto to practice with me. But for now, you know, I haven't played in my life exactly the way it is right now. It just happened spontaneously, and then I'm very blessed. I'm very thankful for, you know, what's been given to me through this existence. So I should not change, but I'm open.

Todd McLaughlin:

That's cool. Gerson, that's so cool. I hear you. I a question I had because you made a mention that you, when you meditate, you feel like you are able to receive guidance from Dharma, even though afar, have you ever had experience, or how has yoga And or your meditation practice opened up a portal, more or less for you to do that type of communication. Has it? How is it assisted or helped that open for you?

Gerson Frau:

Yeah, I think first of all, you gotta be receptive. If I go to the house and I want to connect to your Wi Fi, I'm going to ask you for the password for the code, and you give me, then I type the code. So I am asking you, right I am receptive to that code specifically, so then I can download all the data, check my social media, my emails, whatever. So it's the same thing. Herman loves to use that technology analogy, right? So I think it's the same thing. So they call this humbleness is devotion, is reverence. It's, you know, asking for guidance, and then somehow, you know, as I said, the other you know, years back, I was first I got the news, I was like, Oh, my God, gonna write to Adam. No, I'm gonna write to dharma. Oh, come down. What Dharma would say? Oh, my What? Oh, my goodness. What are your concern? Just come like, that's it.

Todd McLaughlin:

So, oh my gosh, I hear you by

Gerson Frau:

devotion, by reverence, by obedience,

Todd McLaughlin:

yeah, yes. And I'm curious, how did you What caused you? I know you traveled to Puerto Escondido, from what you said a bit before you decided to settle. What was the feeling that helped you decide this is, let's settle here with the family, because I know it's a big move to go international with with children and all of that. How did you? How did you, how did that come to be?

Gerson Frau:

Yes, first I'd like to mention that I was leaving Mexico City. I came to Mexico City 2003 the first time was practicing Ashtanga, vinyasa yoga. And then I moved to New York, not for yoga. Now the work. And then 2007 I met dharma. And then it was a small group, you know, the Third Avenue and 23rd and then, you know, my life just changed.

Todd McLaughlin:

You know, was that a magic moment in time? I don't know,

Gerson Frau:

amazing. I got good, you know, look at this. Yeah, it was a very special moment. And then I knew at that time, I said, we are living a very special moment. This man here, remember when I first got to New York City was about when I got there to him. It was his 68th birthday. You know, I got there in April and May, was his birthday. And then I knew that we were living through a very special time, because it was a smaller group. He was, he was doing very intense class, master class, to our class, like the crowd that people would come, you know, I was just fascinated. And then, you know, I was into Ashtanga, before, which I was very devoted to. But then Dharma, you know, just was a big shift. Naturally, I didn't need it. I didn't even recognize it.

Todd McLaughlin:

It was cool, like you weren't, you weren't searching for, let me find. I did

Gerson Frau:

search, yeah, yeah. But we, we all searching for something, right? So when you you find guidance, you're like, oh my goodness, you know these man here on his 60, late 60s, and he's doing this offering this. Then I took the program the first 200 hour this, after years, they start calling Dharma Mitra yoga. He never liked and then it was dark. It was changed to dharma yoga. Then I, I moved back to Mexico City. I remember I asked him, Hey, do you have you know somebody Mexico City? Because my wife, my girlfriend, which was my wife today, wanted to come back. And then we he said, No, but there is this guy. And went to the guy, friend of him, a friend of mine. And then in but the guy wasn't really teaching. You know what Dharma teach? And then I start teaching myself. I had, I had gone through the first 200 hour and never had a plan to become a teacher. Anyway. So I start practicing. First I went to my friend who owns the yoga studio. Said, Hey, I was with Dharma, and then we want to practice. We went practice in the middle afternoon. All the studio was closed, just both of us, a guy, but very open, and he goes after, after we practice, why don't you? Why don't you start a Tuesday class 630 evening. Okay, so that was 2007 actually, by the end of the year. And then, and then, you know, people liked it was, you know, it became, eventually, a little by little, it became a good group. But then I moved back to New York, 2008 and then I keep, I kept coming back and forth, New York, Mexico City, and then I went 2009 back to New York. 2010 and then on 2009 or 10. I don't remember. I think it was nine. I took the 500 hour back. Then was the advanced training. We didn't have 700 or 1000 or 800 and then, and then, you know, they are just about to move to, to the other studio, the new studio, the older one. But then on to leave the east, 23rd and Third Avenue, and then to 23rd and Broadway at six. And then, then we moved to Brazil, my girlfriend, I she really wanted to go back. I had, I had gone through an accident here surfing. I had a problem with my knee. And then we went to Brazil. Then we decided to stay there. We got married. Then she got pregnant. Then I was coming from Brazil to New York City. I was coming to Mexico, you know, I wasn't able to get a good group of students in Brazil somehow. You know, yoga was, was teaching Sao Paulo. But, yeah, how it wasn't happening. So Mexico, I start coming and because I want to go to New York and I need some money to leave, I started coming and traveling around the country, you know, just to, you know, to save and to be able to be close to dharma. Then start working with the life of yoga program. And then that was it, you know, I was traveling for six weeks going to New York and Mexico City, but then based in Brazil with my wife, newly newly married, right? Yeah, yeah. And then I was able to travel with armas and retreats in the US and also here in Mexico. And that was very blessing too, to be close, to be to the hotels rooms, you know, driving him or was very, very blessing time for me to be so close to the teacher. And then, then I, we have been coming back to Porto. I said, Why don't we move to Mexico? Yeah, because now I can teach here, and then I am close to dharma. I can go to the life of yoga program. I can teach here. I can travel so, like, naturally, like a very spontaneous way, I was doing my thing. Of course, I was, I'm, uh, you know, I am an active person. I like to do things. And I saw that there was an opportunity, you know, the path was clear. So then I was traveling all over the country, you know, California, Texas as well. I went to a lot of little towns in the border with banks and the US, nice.

Todd McLaughlin:

So, yeah, that's cool. Man, I love, I love hearing about your journey like that, to hear all the different like angles that you were able to make those turns and and then how you end up where you are. Now, that's pretty cool, man, I I'm really curious. Well, you're speaking an incredibly clear, concise English with me. You're from Brazil, so I know you speak Portuguese. You live in Mexico. I'm guessing you must be fluent in Espanol. That's three languages. Are there any more in there? No, okay, good, good. Don't, don't shock me too much.

Gerson Frau:

I used to live in Italy, 9990 919, 99 and 2001 year. And then I learned because, you know, for us Latin speakers, yeah, Spanish and Italian, I would say it's easier than French, but I used to speak Italian because I lived to one year, yeah, yeah. When I, when I moved to Mexico, I completely blasted. So, yeah, yeah, understood.

Todd McLaughlin:

And I'm so curious, and I know that this could be a difficult question, what is the overall vibe in Mexico, with the Mexican American relations right now, currently in the world, in the yoga circle, I know, I feel like we all are kind of, like connected, and so we don't see borders. You know what? I mean, like, it's one big world, and we're we're all connected. But I'm just curious, what's the overall joke around in Mexico? Is there jokes in Mexico, a little bit about us up here in this portion of the continent, of course. And I know you don't have to say anything that would be incriminating, but I just think it's important to hear what the feeling in Mexico is right now, just with the current state of diplomacy and all that, all that jazz. Yes,

Gerson Frau:

I think there is everything you know, there is good parts, there is bad parts, and you have to understand that. You know, it's a big shift that is happening, and it's changing Mexican reality in many ways. And for some people, life becomes harder. You know, financially and you know, so if you really put yourself in the shoes of Mexican people, and you understand that, back then, you were living in a little town like Puerto, and then everything was so cheap and accessible for everyone. And now, since many foreigners, I'm not saying only Americans, because many foreigners are come here because of pandemia, because of the big change we're living through. So of course, you know, you start like that gives rise to feelings that you know sometimes are not very helpful for none of us, yeah, but yeah, it is understandable if you really, if you really put yourself in the shoes of native people, you know, and then you think of like the place their land, and they've been eating there for generations, living here for generations, and now They have to move away from the town because they can't afford to pay rent. So if you, if you don't consider that, you know, and of course, I understand the same is happening Mexico City. No, beautiful city, everything. It's becoming very accessible for foreigns and everything. But think of, you know, Mexican people were living there back then, and they can just go to, you know, una Tien Vita, little store to buy everything. So it says, But now everything became kind of fancy and expensive, so they just can't, but they have to go to outside of the city, you know? So it's totally you have to understand that. Yeah, that gates feeding. We are human beings. Yeah, yeah, very honest. You're going to understand that then, then maybe, if you are in the shoes, you're going to be acting the same way. But at the same point, Mexican people are so loving and so I. You know, open and have, well, they have this, I would say, happy, but I don't want to sound, you know, exaggerated, you know, this warmth, like they are warm, yes. Sally, yes. So then, you know, if you understand, if you respect, if you show them respect, and trying to do something, you know, for the community, trying to help, because also, it's not our fault that we've decided to move to Mexico, right? Of course, I took the decision to move here, but I'm, I'm thinking the big move, right? Like, maybe, you know, some other countries became, you know, inaccessible to me to leave, and then here became accessible. It's a good place. So here I am. So what can I do to help instead of, you know, judge or say, why are they thinking or getting too much involved with the with the feelings? That's okay when you have that feeling, when you receive that from some, you know, you're trying to understand and practice compassion. And then say, Oh, I'll be doing the same thing. And then you react in a nice way. You're helping, helpful way. So that, that that I think we can we can be responsible, we can cooperate, you know, like as Dharma say, you can cope, find a way how you can cope with this. And this is what I was mentioned, that we have to, we are trying to, right? We like, I'm very busy, you say, because we try to schedule this meeting for, yeah, you know, you gotta find some I gotta find some time to help. We're teaching a class, we're planting trees, and, you know, it's, there's somebody who needs and you are in a position that you can help, just help. So I think, you know, you can create a little bit of harmony with all this big change that is happening, you know, and then we don't, we are not sure. How is this going to be, you know, but yes, honestly, it wasn't very helpful for, you know, for like, of course, economy now Porto has become a place where yoga studio can be, help can be, can be held, and some other, you know, like little Posadas, little hotels or houses for rent or whatever. And people might be, you know, my taken advantage of even Mexico, of course. But there are some many other things that you know, as I mentioned before. So, yeah, you have to try to navigate, try to be, and it's not for others, or social media, I try to, you know, just if you have in your heart, you're doing the best you can, you're trying to be helpful. People sense that. People feel it, you know? So then it creates harmony, and then, you know, it's easier, right?

Todd McLaughlin:

I agree, and thank you so much for being honest, and I think you did an amazing job answering that question. Thank you. And it's very helpful for me. I feel like one of the things I love about this opportunity to speak with you where you're living in a different country, and for you to clue me in and our listeners, the listener to what is happening in your corner of the world, I think, is where how we can really know what's going on, like the on the ground truth of what's happening and what people are thinking. So I appreciate your honesty there. And grisant, I know you're you know we have a small amount of time today, and it's going by so quickly. I know you have plans to travel today, and so in the attempt, within this very quick moment to meet you, to wrap this up, any insight into just what you're feeling and thinking and what you're like, if we go down into your core, is there any sort of feeling, thought or insight that you'd like to leave us with today?

Gerson Frau:

Yeah, well, I think even for those who practice yoga, or for those who don't practice yoga, I think we are just here experience this lifetime. And of course, we have our desires and cravings, and, you know, and wants and needs, but we can, if we can, lessen a little bit our selfishness, you know, through Yama Niyama, through, you know, live in harmony with everyone else and trying to be a good person. And then check it out. How it's life when you do that effort, right? We are not saints or gurus or spiritual. We are all spiritual, of course, because we're spirit, living through this body. But I don't like to put myself in category, and of course, I really have this reverence for dharma and devotion for the guru. Know, but I also see him as a human, as a household, like leading with the yoga studio, with this clear mind, and, you know, like, as he says himself, like it seems like consciousness expressed through him in a clear way. So then there is less obstruction than we fall in love to him or to whoever shows that clarity or that consciousness, that pure consciousness. But I think, you know, we all trying to navigate this lifetime, this illusion of world, and so if we have the effort, I think this is the practice that we have to do. I'm not talking about the asanas, you know, to live in harmony, to find a way as the as we're talking before. You know, there's this big shift coming or happening here. There's good things about it, there's bad things about it. There is good things for foreign and bad things for Mexican, good things for Mexican, bad things for foreigns. But how can we cope with that? How can we put our little grain set? No, there's always a way if, oh no, we might find an excuse I don't speak the language. Boy, you know, I don't like those people. I don't like Ben more than like, but Okay, try to settle that down a little bit. And you know, like, follow your heart. If you can be helpful, if you can cooperate, create harmony, do something. Okay. You want to build a house, work. Save money, do your thing. But don't forget, it's not about it all the time. You don't have to be, you know, like, 100% of it, we're playing a game. It's almost like that, right? Yes. And then it is like, and then how can it's all, you know, I always say it's all borrowed. Anyways, I can 6770, more years it's we're gone. So what is the point to the right Great point. That's that has to be a constant remind in my head. But you know, you get to that. Okay, let me find some time to I'm running short of money, but I'm going to buy 10 little trees. I'm going to plant it next week. This guy, you want? This guy wants to help. So then you you find, check it out. As Dharma said, How do you feel when you do all those things? What is what is life about? Right? So, the simple life. So this is what I recommend, trying to find a way how to cope, trying to find a way how to you know you don't have to show or you might even think now, if you know somebody hears me, oh, maybe he's playing the nice guy. I'm not playing anything. I'm just trying to be honest. And then, you know, I think this is our daily practice, actually, to help, be useful, be helpful, and just good. You know, life, life, it becomes meaningful. Like, like Dharma says, What is the meaning of life to experience all this, this nice experience?

Todd McLaughlin:

It's good, yes, yes, Chris, oh my gosh. Well, thank you so much, man. I'm so glad we got a chance to connect after a couple of attempts, and we pulled it off. And I really wish you and your family the best. I hope to one day make it your way, and I will reach out then and and just thank you so much for doing this with me, and I look forward to continuing our conversation.

Gerson Frau:

Thank you, hopefully in person next time, or New York City or here down the coast, getting some waves. I know

Todd McLaughlin:

I want to go to Mexico City too. I hear it's incredible. I hear the food is amazing. It's so fun

Gerson Frau:

food, it's safe. You can walk. And you know, if you, if you, if you go in summertime, probably might, you might get wet because it rains, but if you go like half season, like September, October, November, so beautiful days and no, September might be a little bit rainfall, but got it. It's amazing to walk and go to yoga studios, you know. And you know, a lot of foreigns there, so, Mexican culture there? So, yeah, yeah, beautiful. It's, I think it's a good match. It's a good combo. That very nice, right? He has always been very interested to me that the Mexican culture, but now, I think, you know, since it's more open to everyone, see there's openness too, yeah, people offering yes should come.

Todd McLaughlin:

Thank you. I will. Thanks crystal. Have a have a great day.

Gerson Frau:

Yeah, you have a good weekend. And thank you. And thank you, thank you for inviting me for this. And I'm very you know, I was like, I don't want to. Oh no, no, let's do it. So I'm glad you worked, and I hope it might help somebody else. And then, you know, we are always here to share what we're living and inspire one another get inspired. So this is thank you for what you're doing as well and sharing all this. I saw Mark was here the other, you know, I saw something. Yeah, I think, Oh, nice. Mark was there too.

Todd McLaughlin:

Mark is so great. That was so awesome. And I loved you. I think, right, Andrew, too. Thank you, Andrew and Pam, yes, for introducing us. I know they've been incredible lately. Just here, talk to this person, talk to this person. So it's been so helpful. Yeah, oh man, well, I appreciate your generosity. Gerson and I will. I'll be in touch with you.

Gerson Frau:

Yeah, thank you. Thank you to DARM as well. Yes, he knows that you know the path so

Todd McLaughlin:

that, yes, I agree. I agree. Thank you. Namaste.

Gerson Frau:

Namaste. Good weekend.

Todd McLaughlin:

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