Soulway Journey
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Soulway Journey
🏡 Navigating Family Dynamics: Embracing Differences and Building Authentic Relationships
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What happens when you mix professional coaching skills with the raw, emotional territory of family relationships? Join us as we navigate this delicate balance aboard the Crystal Ship with my very special guest, my mother, Jutta. We share our personal journey of accepting and valuing our differences, and how this has shaped our unique mother-daughter bond. Jutta, a seasoned facilitator and coach, offers her wisdom on how embracing these differences can lead to growth and deeper in professional settings.
Our conversation provides a candid look into the complexities of nurturing authentic family relationships. We explore the often challenging task of integrating professional skills into personal life, highlighting the importance of personal development and empathy. From recognizing subconscious cultural programming to managing family dynamics, we share insights and practical tips aimed at helping parents and children alike build more balanced and supportive connections. This heartfelt discussion underscores the transformative power of mutual growth and support within the family unit.
Finally, we delve into navigating the emotional landscape of parent-child relationships, focusing on nonviolent communication and expressing emotions constructively. We tackle the inherent power dynamics and the vital transition from parental guidance to mutual respect as children grow older. Emphasizing truthfulness and love, this episode offers valuable perspectives on fostering genuine connections and appreciating everyone's contributions, whether in family or professional environments. Join us for a conversation that celebrates the journey of growing together and nurturing meaningful relationships.
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hello and welcome, most beautiful soul. I am so happy you tuned in. This is the soul way journey and I welcome you on the crystal ship. The crystal ship is a digital virtual space in which you can relax and let the story of today unfold. So you can take a nice seat or lay down on one of our comfortable sofas and couches on the sun deck or wherever you want to go on this beautiful crystal ship. That's a place that automatically adjusts to your specific needs.
Speaker 1:So I invite you to surrender to whatever comes up today in this beautiful episode with my mother, which is very special to me because she has shaped me. Of course, much in my life and a lot of the stuff I do is inspired by her work. And, yeah, I've been waiting to bring her into this crystal journey, in this crystal ship, for a while and now it's happening. I just have to tell you that sometimes the connection and our zoom call wasn't that good, so it happens that I speak over her and that is just because I didn't hear her, like it was, you know, like delayed. So if that happens, please forgive me, forgive the connection. It doesn't happen a lot, it's just once or twice, but that's just for you to understand it better. And, yes, it's about accepting differences and, even more, evaluating differences in the other, which has been a very interesting journey with my mom.
Speaker 1:I also wanted to say that the interview is going to go online on youtube on the soulwear journey, a new channel I just started, so please feel very free and welcome to check it out on youtube, follow me, like and subscribe. There's going to be more video content from now on, which I'm very excited about. Also new instagram, which is called the soulway journey, which you can follow and which, yeah, just reminds you on on your soul's journey. So I wish wish you a beautiful day, lovely one. See you soon. I'm very delighted and happy to have the most important woman in my life on this podcast. Hello and welcome to the legendary and always great mother of mine called Jutta. Do you want to introduce yourself?
Speaker 2:Yes, of course. Hello, Hi Zorbaik, I'm so happy, it's so nice to see you here and to be with you. Thank you for inviting me to your beautiful podcast. So I'm Jutta, I live in Berlin, I'm 58 years old, I have a beautiful 26-year-old daughter and I'm a facilitator and working with groups all over the world, a lot in Germany, and I'm also running my own academy, so I'm teaching facilitation in Germany. So this is what I really love doing. And, yeah, I think that's maybe enough for the moment to talk about me.
Speaker 1:Amazing. Thank you so much for introducing yourself. It has been a while I wanted to make this, already happening since almost the beginning of our of my podcast journey, but I don't know why only now it really came to being. But that's also perfect, because timing is always great and I think maybe it's also because we have had also progression in that time in our relationship, and that's also what we want to talk about today, because when people meet us together, they're like, ah, okay, what did Ali the other day say? Ah, okay, now I understand why she's like that, because she's like that and I mean, in a wiring is very different.
Speaker 1:So we both had quite a yet quite a journey and it will, of course, continue from now on to becoming, I would say, almost best friends, not in the sense because you're my mom, but just being so close and supporting each other in both ways. And this relationship has um, yes, it's becoming better and better for me every day and um, we want to talk about that and also in that sense, you want to share a bit about your um, your way of working. That is also related to that maybe also inspired you in our relationship. Yes, is that right? Do you agree on this. How did you navigate these differences in our relationship, and how? How? What did you come to understand about our personal relationship, but also about how humans are and about yourself, maybe even?
Speaker 2:Oh, this is a good question because you know me being a professional coach and facilitator. Of course, I know a lot about differences of people and I know that we all have our mental models and all that stuff. But being a mother, suddenly it's. I saw that it was now seen from from behind, from now retrospective. It was not easy to see the real, the real difference between us and the real, maybe value of the two differences.
Speaker 2:I think it's a lot about this and maybe this is, let's say, well, I try to make a long, long story very short. You know, I'm really finding out that I am what this is maybe funny, funny enough, but this is maybe one of the, the most challenges. I have to become a better person for the, for the close, very close relationships. I have to be more open, to be more empathetic and more valuing the differences and really seeing the differences. And you know, the funny thing, zolik, is that if I look at my professional life, this is 100% what I'm doing all the time.
Speaker 2:You see, when I work with groups, I always try to open and hold a space where people see each other, understand each other, see the difference and value everything that is there. And, as you most probably know, know and maybe others already know, or maybe sense of it if you, if you decide to be a pro to, to go on this as a profession, there's a lot of duty you have, there's a lot of things you have to, you have to learn um one and and one side is the professional life. It's much easier to be a good coach and to be a very calm and loving, silent kind of facilitator, but when it comes to very, very close relationships, it is a bit at least for me. This is still a challenge, and I think it was mostly with you when you became a teenager, and I think it was mostly with you when you became a teenager. I found out that this is really wow, that I really have a lot of work to do.
Speaker 1:At that point, you bring me this and I bring this, and we are so different and we make together, make the puzzle, and we don't need to change the other person. Yeah, and yeah, it's so. It's such an interesting and very um, yeah, very important thing to to talk about also how people like you, um, that are in a professional field of this, this work I mean, you are doing this step now and also looking how can I really like be fully integrated, how can I change the way I do, I'm doing things, not only the, the, the how, like how can I change the how of doing things and not just the what, if you think you are enlightened.
Speaker 2:Yeah, go into your family, meet your family, because family is not the other. So there's a difference between family and the rest of the world, right, because the family is, is, is a place where you know, apart from all this big love that is there and the unconditional love and all this caring for each other and being a real unity, right apart from that, of course, family is the like, the cohort of um, of other kind of feelings and also of I'm now I'm looking for an english word um expectations, expectations. There's so many expectations to the role of the other person, and this has a lot to do with all the things I grew up with and my parents grew up with and my grandparents grew up with. So we, we do have, we are so much culturally and emotionally programmed in a way, and this is so much of a subconscious stuff that we can, of course, reach through therapy and personal development. But you know, we get triggered so quickly inside the family.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I just have to think about how it is so beautiful and so, yeah, it opens my heart as well a lot to now be at a point with you where I did a lot of work on myself and you did a lot of work on yourself and now we can come together and truly, I feel like really truly be of service to each other, or like, yeah, just help each other and inspire each other and and I know, like there is still, of course, power difference or not power difference, but like how can I phrase it?
Speaker 1:Of course there's a role difference, but still we are. I feel we are much more on eye level than we've ever been, and I think that's something that I have never thought is possible actually, I've never thought it's possible, but it is possible but really to truly be yourself in front of the other, because I believe that if we're that, if you're that truly to me, I can respond to you as a whole being and as you truly are, and if I'm truly that to you, we can really get to know each other really. And I was just wondering if you have like a tip for people that either in the parent or maybe from the child perspective. I can talk longer after that, either in the parent or maybe from the child perspective. I can talk longer after that, but from the parent perspective, whatever perspective you like to come into that relationship that is nurturing and that is truthful and joyful, like it is between us.
Speaker 2:Well, it's a lot of work. It doesn't come like that right and and it still is. You know, we do have our times when we are struggling with each other. Oh yeah, but we are learning from that yes, and that's the thing, yeah, the most.
Speaker 2:and for me, the most important thing, not only concerning the relationship to you, is to understand my thoughts and feelings when you do things different than I expect you to do. Right, and as a mother okay, this is mother perspective I always I think almost all parents they want their children to become happy and joyful and have a good life, and we believe that we know the way. I think this is our way. It's very classic At the end you come down to very, very basic things, but still, it is a real art to deal with this kind of idea to see, okay, the other person is doing things differently, and so all these worries we do have and we impose them over our children. I don't think it's a good idea. I think it's really this idea of okay, you're going a different way as I was going, but I know you will be right, you will be okay, and this is something we really all the parents, have to struggle with.
Speaker 2:And this is the first thing. And the second one is I don't know how to explain, let me just give me a second. It is also to find out what kind of things lay behind my emotions towards you. So if I get angry on you, to find out, okay, what is my wish, my desire, behind my feelings, and then trying to say it in a way that you can. So you know, this is nonviolent communication, right, and trying to explain it to you in a way that you can understand. So, in saying, okay, listen, we have a meeting at three o'clock and I see it's half past three. I'm not here yet and you know I don't feel very comfortable in you not respecting my time and I do have other things to do. So I really would love you to come. Instead of saying blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Like always, you're always there. And also, zolbeck, I need to say something to you as well, because I recognize some difference in your behavior, and this is showing emotions.
Speaker 2:Showing emotions and saying something like okay, the way you're treating me just now is making me sad and I I want our relationship to be in a in a certain way. So please don't yell at me. Instead of accusing me of yelling at you what you were doing for many, many years and saying, okay, when you're not, when you're yelling at me, I don't talk to you anymore. And this was, this is. You know, this is this kind of um, it's, it's a, it's a pattern that a lot of uh, not only in parent-child relationships, but also in in marriages or in relationships between like adults is one person's getting very emotional. So, because we're not always this kind of structured in saying it's in the right way, but of course it hurts you, me being emotional, but trying to find out what is the anger or what is the thing behind the emotion, what does this person need from me, instead of just saying, okay, when you're talking to me like this, I will not talk to you anymore. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:I also get a bit emotional. Yeah, I think it's definitely very beautiful what you said about me changing as well, being more truthful. I think that's also the advice I would give as a child refinding my way to my own emotions and not thinking they are not valuable. And being truthful to you has, yeah, and now it's the. It's the implementation, because, yeah, crying in front of you was not easy for me, or would have not been that easy before, of course, out of anger, but we know also, anger is a secondary emotion, so anger always hides something else.
Speaker 1:For example, um, um, hurt, like when I'm here, when I'm hurt, fear, yeah, most of the times it's one of these ones. And, um, the last time we had a conflict was very nice because I could. I could see myself going into this meta position that you would always hate, when I would be like I don't like, because I really like. Yeah, for me it's important how we do things, with which energy are we approaching things? And since you were, for example, in that time, that moment, you wanted to do something for me in my name. To what you were thinking it was best for me, to what you were thinking it was best for me, but the way you were doing it was making me feel very stressed and very actually but like at all, not for me.
Speaker 2:Um, yeah, I just want to highlight one thing that you already said like, because, um, between parents and children there's always a power difference and it's not an eye-level contact, it's just like the way it is.
Speaker 2:Maybe it will become something different when parents get very old, but although there it's good to respect maybe that there is some kind of power difference.
Speaker 2:But the thing is in trying not to use the power you have, in accusing the child, in not doing the things you think is best. I think this is a big challenge we have as parents the things you think is best. I think this is a big challenge we have as parents, in a way, in being aware of the power we have, and it's a psychological power and it's an economic power. It's a lot of things not to use it and, driven by our worries, this is just because we're worried in being hard, unfriendly, harsh and accusing and judging to our children. I think this is one of the most challenging and powerful challenging thing and powerful tool to change, to really change the um, the atmosphere and the relationship. And I need to say that I always tried to be a good mother and I think I was, but now, being like at this age, I would love, love to have this, really to have this inside of it earlier and well, so beautiful.
Speaker 1:Still, I really I'm very touched as well. I love it and it's a very basic thing. Yeah, it's really. It's really this you want to do something because you think it's the best for me, because you love me, of course, and you also older, so you also have been taking care of me and having to decide what is best for me for a while, right, but then there's this moment where maybe I get my own free will and I somehow maybe know better now what is best for me, but also you still like it's yeah, it's such an intricate dynamic and then in the end, really like, yeah, you knowing, okay, I want the best for you, but actually maybe you know it better than I do and I support you and you finding it out, I guess, in the end.
Speaker 1:And then on my part, being truly myself to you, and that has been truly beautiful for me to see that we, you know it's both ways, right. So I always have the idea that when you were this tree that gives me air and I'm the your, your child, eating from your fruits and like they're getting your air, you're also excited about me, you know, jumping around you and being like, hey, you pick nice tree. You're cool. I like to turn around and hug you and and you're, it's not. You're not just giving, in a sense that you're like, yeah, here you have it, everything I have just take. But you're also getting joy from me being there and running around on underneath you yeah, this is what I wanted to say.
Speaker 2:to come back to my work, you know when when I found out in the last years that the one of the most important things in a group, you know, if a group wants to reach something, it's a working group or a network, or maybe it's people living together with, or something community. If I'm working with this kind of groups and of course, they have a goal, they want to go somewhere, they want to find solutions for something One of the most important things is to get truthfulness. This is a word I don't know if you understand it good enough in english. It really means people really truly show their emotions and their thoughts and they really show up, and then you can, like, start, start really getting to to a common ground, right, but we need people to up. So this world of truthfulness is leading my work since a while, and what you just said also is something about truthfulness, right, this is a truthful relationship where everybody knows about their gifts and about their challenges and about what people bring in, and we see each other in that beauty, right, and then you know it doesn't matter if you're a CEO or the accountant or the person cleaning the floor. Everybody's giving something really important to a goal, and this is what we really need, this appreciation for people's effort, you know. And so, yeah, I think it has a lot to do what we really need, this appreciation for people's effort, you know, and so, yeah, I think it has a lot to do with my work. Yeah, exactly One thing as I'm getting older, you know, we're getting a bit wiser.
Speaker 2:I think what I find out, the most important thing, and I think one of the things I'm really doing in the groups, is to bring love into the groups, and this is something that is quite strange because, at least in germany, the like company world is not this is not a word no people would use, you know say, only we sit together and spread love, you know, people would say, oh, love this at nothing at all. Right, but in a way, if you look at the sense of, of human energy, and I am more and more believe that our human nature is love, pure love. Thank you, so, so, like you, also teach me something from about that right. So our, our way, our true, true, true nature is love, and so it's. It's all about helping this love to find their way into, into the interaction in the group, and this has nothing to do with romantic love. It's more about the energy of what we have.
Speaker 2:We have just been talking for the last half hour, so this is what I'm doing and this is also my vision in getting more and more clear. With that, I wouldn't tell to people I'm working with normally oh, this is about love, don't you know that? But my vision is to be more clear about it and I have to use it One day maybe.
Speaker 1:Yeah, just doing it your way, and I'm really proud and influenced by you and I love your work and you wrote a book already. You have a blog post, which is you have a blog, right? Is that, yeah, going, yes, yeah, yeah, there's a book also in English, german and English. You train facilitation in Berlin. It's a one-year course, very interesting, and if you want to get a facilitator and you have several small events also happening always Free events also if you're in Berlin, if you want to check it out, it's very nice, yeah.
Speaker 2:And also the newest thing is that I'm running an English online training, online in English, and it will start, I think, in June this year. So there's some new ones in English as well, right? Yeah, I think I just want to say thanks for this conversation, for this little meeting in the afternoon, and, yes, I know that in the future there will things. We will do things together. I'm quite sure I don't know where it will lead us, but it's already coming. I can already feel it coming and that's great. So, zorich, thanks a lot for this, that you invited me to your podcast. I'm very curious how it will be. Have a good time. Hope to see you soon and great wishes, and I love you.
Speaker 1:I love you. I love you, too, very much, and thank you so much for taking the time and thank you so much for everybody who's listened in and who's also on the path of giving it a try and finding the value inside the differences, because it's a fun journey five stars, five stars fun journey.
Speaker 2:Yeah, okay bye.
Speaker 1:Thank you so much. Bye, bye, bye, bye.
Speaker 2:Thank you, I'm sorry uh.
Speaker 1:Thank you.