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230 BEAR INDEPENDENT - US Civil War w/Special Guest TJ Morris

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Special Guest: TJ Morris - a.k.a. Bear Independent

Tonight we're discussing what a modern-day US Civil War might look like with special guest, TJ Morris from Bear Independent.

TJ Morris, known as Bear Independent, is a popular YouTube personality and preparedness expert focusing on self-sufficiency, survival skills, and faith, who also founded Refuge Medical and Grindstone Ministries and Kaleb House. He's a husband, father, ordained pastor, and provides practical prepping advice through his channel and courses, blending tactical skills with strong Christian values.

He's the Unintentional Shepard and the perfect guy to talk shop with when it comes to the fate of our once great country.

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00:03:08.76
Bear_ of the Internet
Thank you for having me. It's an honor to be here. I'm looking forward to the conversation.

00:03:13.72
Keith
yeah Yeah, me too.

00:03:15.61
Buddy
Yeah, dude did we miss anything there? i mean...

00:03:20.30
Bear_ of the Internet
It's hard to keep track of this day these days, bro. I'm also an ordained pastor, which I would have would did not believe at all that was ever going to be in the cards for me. Yet here we are.

00:03:32.54
Bear_ of the Internet
and So And I used to play drums and heavy metal bands back in the day. So I've cut a few albums, toured all across the country, done all kinds of stuff. Yeah.

00:03:43.74
Keith
I did see some videos of you playing the drums. Pretty cool. I'm a guitarist myself and I was in lots of metal bands growing up.

00:03:49.69
Bear_ of the Internet
Awesome. Okay. So what's your amplifier of choice?

00:03:53.60
Keith
Marshall stack all the way.

00:03:54.55
Bear_ of the Internet
Okay. ah Like JCM 800, 900. What are you

00:03:58.02
Keith
it's been ah It's been a long time since I owned one, so I don't know what's what's right these days.

00:04:02.10
Bear_ of the Internet
yeah ah Well, I mean, what's right is whatever you want, right? ah

00:04:06.35
Keith
I'm a fan of, I mean, I'm a fan of crunch. um not Not as much crunch as I would say like... um like Boston, remember the band Boston, not like more crunch, like Metallica.

00:04:16.61
Bear_ of the Internet
Mm-hmm.

00:04:19.69
Keith
That's more my, that's more my crunch.

00:04:19.70
Bear_ of the Internet
Okay. That's cool. ah The metal that I used to play was so metal that other metalheads would come up to me and be like, are you okay, bro? Like, do you need to talk to somebody?

00:04:31.22
Bear_ of the Internet
ah So, yeah, ive ah a lot of like ah like black metal and extreme death metal, stuff like that, like Satyricon and Demo Borgir and Emperor and Belphegor and like all this stuff that just, you know, you're getting warmed up at 300 beats per minute.

00:04:51.35
Bear_ of the Internet
So, yeah, it's a blast.

00:04:53.14
Keith
and now And now you're a pastor.

00:04:55.16
Bear_ of the Internet
Now I'm a pastor. Like I said, I didn't think it was in the life arc for me, but the blood of the lamb is significantly powerful. So here we are.

00:05:04.22
Keith
Well, I know that Buddy wanted to talk about what a civil war would look like in the U.S. nowadays. And and i and I would too. would love to hear, you know, love to see somebody's perspective on that. Before we ask that, I don't think that's going to take up much time. Before we ask that question, let's I need to talk about but Grindstone Ministries and Caleb House. I know your other stuff. We can talk about that too. But those two there, what are they? What what you got going on there?

00:05:30.71
Bear_ of the Internet
So ah Grindstone Ministries is a pro bono disaster relief agency. We have the same licensure and authority as the American Red Cross, which means we get to go wherever we want to go and do whatever we want to do.

00:05:43.58
Bear_ of the Internet
And because we don't take a dime of federal funding, we don't have any conflicts of interest and we don't have to jump through any hoops. We just show up and help people. And that started about six years ago. I got an email from a guy named the Reverend Gilbert Abreu after Hurricane Michael in ah North Florida out in the panhandle.

00:06:03.77
Bear_ of the Internet
And it was five months after the hurricane. And he said, Bear, we need help. it looks like the storm happened yesterday. And so I spent about five minutes on the phone with him and I said, all right, I'm coming. Never met this guy before. Never talked to me in my life, but I could feel the conviction of the spirit.

00:06:20.70
Bear_ of the Internet
And so I raised, um, I talked to my Patreon community and I raised, about $3,000 rented minivan. had 3000 pounds of food to bring with me. And, um, three thousand pounds of food to bring with me and um There's 3,000 mile round trip, blah, blah, blah. I just kept coming up 3, 3, 3, right? I get out there. It's me and 32 other volunteers from the Bear Nation.

00:06:42.81
Bear_ of the Internet
We fed 3,000 people over the course of three days. Come home and I still had $3,000 in the bank, even though I had spent every dime that money. I'm like, oh, we got a loaves and fishes thing going on here. That's pretty cool. And so um then a brother of mine from church was like, hey, that thing you did in Florida is really cool. When are you going back?

00:07:01.94
Bear_ of the Internet
And I hadn't planned on going back, but I was like, I don't know. Let's compare schedules. and So we went back again. And then Grindstone was born. And so we've now deployed, I i believe, right about 60 times in the last pushing six years now from Mayfield, Kentucky, Hurricane to Hurricane Helene. to, you know, we were just down in the central Texas flooding and then had a team out in Jamaica.

00:07:27.45
Bear_ of the Internet
And we just help people, man. We do debris remediation, rebuild homes, feed people. And what's really cool is we get a lot of vets and a fair number of soft vets as well.

00:07:41.37
Bear_ of the Internet
And so these guys show up and they're looking for a mission. They're looking for a purpose. They want to use the skills and talents that they've spent a lifetime investing in and honing. And then all of a sudden there's this external stimulus, which is this crisis. And it's like, okay, and go.

00:07:56.31
Bear_ of the Internet
And so, you know, like in a hurricane Helene, we were running cross border border operations, sea, air and land, right. In order to get from Eastern Tennessee into Western North Carolina, because, uh, the governor of North Carolina wouldn't declare a state of emergency. and So we weren't technically permitted in, but we were using helos and dropping in. We were crossing rivers. We were hiking in star links to people.

00:08:21.82
Bear_ of the Internet
And it it was it's a blast. And so that's what Grindstone does. That's grindstoneministries.com if anybody wants to connect and join up. And then Caleb House with a K. Caleb House was born out of a Grindstone deployment that we did we were We were in between storm seasons and we um we get bored easy. You know, I guess you'd call that, what, ADHD or something. And so when there's no tornadoes, we get wiggly and we've got to do something. And so...

00:08:49.59
Bear_ of the Internet
We were working at this place that was a um restoration facility for juvenile human trafficking survivors. And it started with, hey, um the floors on in one building on one side of the building are a little soft. Can you come in here and like maybe fix the floors?

00:09:08.18
Bear_ of the Internet
Sure. Well, we scope creeped like to everything where, you know, six weeks later, we've touched every building on property and the power coming in and the sewer going out and water lines coming in and wells and just everything we could touch. And every day after day, it's miracle after miracle, literally of just provision and blessing to get this stuff done.

00:09:28.86
Bear_ of the Internet
And the second to last day, um I'm walking out of this one building that we were using as a bunkhouse and it's a cool, beautiful morning, clear sky. And I'm looking up at the sky and I'm talking to dad and I'm like, this is so cool what you're doing here.

00:09:43.41
Bear_ of the Internet
And he's like amping me up. He's like, yeah. I'm like, they you know, this is awesome. He's like, yeah. was like, man, this is so important. And he's like, yeah. was there's got to be more places like this. And he goes, yeah.

00:09:54.58
Bear_ of the Internet
And you're going to build them.

00:09:58.46
Bear_ of the Internet
What? I'm going to build what I'm like, I don't know shit about counter trafficking.

00:10:01.71
Keith
you

00:10:05.21
Bear_ of the Internet
I don't know nothing. Right. And so now here I'm, I'm standing in the middle of this green space at this facility with my arms raised to the sky, arguing with the creator of the universe going, um, sir, I don't know anything about counter trafficking.

00:10:19.38
Bear_ of the Internet
And he says to me, you build the buildings, I'll handle the rest. said, okay. So we got done with that deployment. I get home and I'm in my Tuesday morning executive meeting with all my staff. And we have on a ah big whiteboard was written, no new projects.

00:10:34.59
Bear_ of the Internet
And I'm like, hey guys, I know we said no new projects, but I'm going to need need another 501c3 and we need to constitute another board. And we're now in the juvenile counter-trafficking space.

00:10:47.86
Bear_ of the Internet
And so my my whole executive team is like, what are you talking about? And so I relate this story to them. And so Caleb House was born and there's a lot of other details in there, but that's the story in the nutshell. And so we started Caleb House because the critical need in counter-trafficking is actually restoration. You know, there's 77,000 Customs and Border Patrol beds for illegal immigrants right now in the country. And there's only 420 beds for juvenile human trafficking survivors across the country. And that's just a number. The actuality is about 80 beds nationwide. Otherwise, the kids end up back in the foster system, which is a contributing factor in the problem in the first place, or they become property of the state.

00:11:29.91
Bear_ of the Internet
Same contributing factor. And so we needed a place that, again, privately funded, no government money, no hoops to jump through, that we could take these kiddos that have been through absolute tragedy and and break the cycle, break the generational curses and provide some standoff here, So that healing can occur. And when we first entered the space, my perception was, you know, there's lots of people that are doing rescue, nobody's doing recovery. And having been in the space for half a decade now, It turns out there's lots of people talking about rescue.

00:12:05.14
Bear_ of the Internet
There's very few people actually doing it, and there's even fewer people doing recovery. And so we reluctantly got into the rescue side of the the game as well. And we've had all kinds of partners, very, we'll just say quiet professionals who have come on their own time and on their own dime, taking leave from whatever unit they happen to be at at the time and show up and help us do what we do. And it's been incredibly humbling. And I'm very thankful that the father meets us where we're at because he told me to build buildings. And it turns out that's like a half of 1% of what's actually involved in all of this. So that's what we do with Caleb House, calebhouse.org.

00:12:47.19
Keith
So you actually, you build the space for, uh, for people to actually, for children we're talking about that were trafficked to come and start over.

00:12:56.92
Bear_ of the Internet
that's Yeah, that's correct. And so, like, right now, we have a network of safe sites where and how many is classified, right? But we have a network of safe sites where we have children and, in some cases, ah mothers and their children who have all been recovered together.

00:13:14.33
Bear_ of the Internet
um And then what we're in the process of building right now is our restoration facility. So think of it as like a campus where um we're using the care house model.

00:13:25.08
Bear_ of the Internet
And so ah a neighborhood in the woods that is removed from all external threats that has dedicated professionals on site, trauma therapists and program directors and doctors and teachers. But these kids also get their own bed, their own backyards. their own clothes, ah their own mom in some cases. And if, you know, you hear a lot like, we got to get these kids back to their parents. And man, in two thirds of the cases, the parents are the problem. I mean, i i can't give you details, but we just worked a case here in Oklahoma where suffice to say, mom and dad were the primary offenders and they had, they skipped town and they left the kid with grandpa. And when the kid was recovered, grandpa was in the process of preparing a grave for the kid so that he could murder the kid to ah get rid of the evidence.

00:14:19.80
Bear_ of the Internet
Um, and so in that case, oh, and that's like, that's Tuesday, bro.

00:14:20.89
Keith
holy shit

00:14:24.82
Keith
oh man

00:14:25.72
Bear_ of the Internet
Yeah. And so, we, we want to make sure that we do as much bad shit to bad people as possible while also taking these kiddos who have been through literal hell and then given a place where they've never going to have to deal with that again.

00:14:39.80
Bear_ of the Internet
ever. And we don't have a timeline on our program. It's not like, Hey man, you got 12 months to get your poop in a group or you got to get out of here. It's like, however, however long it takes. And, you know, we've had children as young as one year old in our care.

00:14:55.32
Bear_ of the Internet
Um, and so, and we've also praised the most high. We've had many children that have graduated from our program are now young adults and are getting on with their lives. And,

00:15:06.90
Bear_ of the Internet
um So we we have a network of safe sites. We're also building our facility right now, our campus right now. We're currently working with um the attorney general's office in the state that we're in.

00:15:20.02
Bear_ of the Internet
in order to, not just for licensure, which is a whole thing for you know taking bringing people onto a dedicated campus, but it's also, what's really cool is, back to the point of nobody's doing this, we don't really know what right looks like, and neither does the Attorney General's office. and They're like, we got a document about what we think right looks like, but we need to We need to get with somebody like y'all who are actually doing it and let's compare notes. And so we've been very blessed to have an excellent working relationship with the attorney general in our state so that we're kind of writing the manual as we go. Because there's nothing to refer to as far as best practices are concerned. Or how do we mitigate liability? Or what does a real wraparound approach to take care of these kids mentally, physically, emotionally, spiritually, educationally, financially? What does that what does that actually look like? Because nobody's doing it. And so the best thing, the best frame of reference I can come up to is like, these are children and we are parents. And we're just going to raise these kids like you would raise a kid.

00:16:26.58
Bear_ of the Internet
And some days we're going to have great days and other days they're not going to be so great. And that's okay because we love them. And I'm commanded to raise these kids up in the way that they should go so they do not depart from it when they are older. And that's that process of breaking that generational curse. Because what happens, bro, is hurt people hurt people.

00:16:45.59
Bear_ of the Internet
And I don't want to, I don't want these kiddos, A, to have to live with that hurt, and B, I don't want to have to target them later. Because each offender, this statistical, will blow your mind.

00:16:59.10
Bear_ of the Internet
Each offender is statistically responsible for 82 victims. Not offenses, victims.

00:17:08.31
Keith
Oh, trickle down effect, more or less.

00:17:09.78
Bear_ of the Internet
Right, right. And so let's put these kids back together. so that they don't repeat these patterns of behavior that they learned at a very young age. And they do live a ah righteous and wholesome life to the best of their ability to where this becomes part of their witness and their testimony. It's not a stumbling block that breaks them for the remainder of their days.

00:17:30.81
Keith
So this is not just about facilities and spaces and and sites. i mean, you've got to have staff.

00:17:36.60
Bear_ of the Internet
Mm-hmm.

00:17:36.85
Keith
You've got staff, you've got food, you've got hygiene, utilities, all of this stuff. So I'm assuming you've got a pretty big staff that handles all this.

00:17:46.55
Bear_ of the Internet
We do. And we have multiple multiple teams, everybody from spooky guys and bushes doing close target reconnaissance out to program directors and house parents and, you know, trauma therapists and legal and educational. And, and it's, yeah, man, it's a lot of people.

00:18:04.63
Keith
all doing it as a charity.

00:18:06.78
Bear_ of the Internet
Correct. And all privately funded because, um, you know, there's, there's things you have hoops to jump through when you take federal and state money. Like we're, we're not going to do gender affirming care at Caleb house.

00:18:19.18
Bear_ of the Internet
And so I'm not, I'm not taking any of that money, yeah you know?

00:18:19.53
Buddy
What?

00:18:19.77
Keith
ah

00:18:23.86
Bear_ of the Internet
Um, so yeah. And it's, it's been an absolute blessing. We've always gotten everything we needed and most of what we wanted right in the father's perfect timing. Um, and so we're, we're, we're blessed with provision and protection and it, it has created the latitude for us to be able to operate and just ask ourselves daily,

00:18:43.03
Bear_ of the Internet
What's the right thing and how do we do that? And then how do we do more of that?

00:18:47.74
Keith
Have you ever thought about going the, for for help and assistance, going the federal route or even the executive branch route?

00:18:54.61
Bear_ of the Internet
So I won't lie. I've, I've reached out to the executive branch, both during the 45th presidency and the 47th presidency and have gotten nothing but crickets.

00:19:06.81
Bear_ of the Internet
um And there's, There's complications there. um I mean, DHS recently announced that they recovered 70,000 missing children.

00:19:19.48
Bear_ of the Internet
And um myself, frankly, I don't believe that for a minute.

00:19:22.47
Buddy
Thank you.

00:19:24.70
Bear_ of the Internet
And I don't know. They might have got seven. I don't think they got 70,000 because I.

00:19:29.98
Keith
Where would 70,000 go? Right.

00:19:31.90
Bear_ of the Internet
Yeah, not only that, but no one, no one has heard a ripple about it. ah You know, on the back end, the people that do what I do, not one person knows anything about it. And that means it was in either incredibly well compartmentalized, which is a rarity for the federal government, or it didn't actually happen.

00:19:57.37
Bear_ of the Internet
So, yeah. And again, you know, you take federal money, you play federal games, you take state money, you take, you have to play state games. And, um, you know, and even with grants, there's a lot of stipulations with grant monies that they have to be dispersed in a specific way or that they have to be, um used for a program. For example, uh, you know, you can use 80% of this grant for general operation operational expenses, but 20% of the grant has to be ah used for explaining why it's okay to feel like a unicorn today and shit in a litter box. It's like, nope, we're not doing that.

00:20:35.74
Bear_ of the Internet
So

00:20:36.12
Keith
Yeah. Way above my pay grade. ah But I mean, i'm I'm willing to turn a screwdriver if it's ever, ever needed. That that I can do.

00:20:43.57
Bear_ of the Internet
holler at me, bro. ah Yeah, we'll set that up.

00:20:49.26
Keith
Buddy, what you got, man? I know you're itching.

00:20:50.84
Buddy
Yeah,

00:20:51.13
Keith
I see your little bu your little button going on and off, on and off.

00:20:54.79
Bear_ of the Internet
Thank you.

00:20:55.16
Buddy
yeah I'm just waiting to jump in here. First off, I'd like to say that I play a pretty mean tape recorder, you know. Or a gazoo maybe. I don't know. But yeah. No, ah man, he's he's got a lot of... He's the busiest man I know.

00:21:08.74
Buddy
He's got a lot going on just to keep up with him. you know We're lucky to have this you know recording time carved out. So you know I just want our listeners to to you know not only go and follow him, but this is just a little bit of what he does. i mean...

00:21:24.54
Buddy
I'd like to have him next at least. We promoted refuge on, on our show. And I'd like to, you know, have him come out and talk to just so a little bit about refuge and, and what it is and what its purpose is. So that's, that's what he can do next. If you, if you would.

00:21:41.09
Bear_ of the Internet
Sure. i I mean, I'd be honored to. um So Refuge, Refuge Medical, probably six years ago now, I was, ah I had this barn at my house and everybody thinks barn, like ah you know like a little red building with white trim and maybe there's a cow there.

00:22:01.34
Bear_ of the Internet
that's not the case for this barn. This barn needs to be hit with a bulldozer. It's, uh, it's missing two walls and half of a roof. Right. And so I'm out in the barn and I've got these, you know totes full of this nylon gear and I'm messing with I fact pouches, individual first aid kit pouches. and I'm like, well, this one, this one kind of sucks because of this. And that one kind of sucks because of that. And I might've had a whiskey or two and I've I had some cardboard. It was the lid of a pizza box and a roll of duct tape. And so I had me a little arts and crafts time. And so I taped up this cardboard pattern of if I could have a first aid kit, this is what it would look like. And so I brought that to a buddy of mine that had a sew shop. And I said, hey, how much to make me one of these? He goes, I have no idea. i said, cool, here's a thousand bucks, figure it out. And so a few weeks later, he's like, Hey, your kit's ready. You can come pick it up. So i go pick it up. And apparently a thousand bucks bought six of these things, not one. So I had the bear fact bear first aid kit gen zero.

00:23:07.10
Bear_ of the Internet
And I'm like, this thing's pretty cool. ah I'm embarrassed by it now. That's how far we've come. Right. But at the time I'm like, this thing's pretty cool. So I sent it to some friends of mine, some active service guys. And I'm like, tell me what you think. Well, one guy writes back and he's like, you know, it's really cool. He goes, but a PJ. And he's like, but when it gets wet, it's really hard to deploy the center pouch. You should make it a little bit bigger. I'm like, awesome. Thanks for the feedback. I don't jump out of helicopters into the ocean, not my job description. So I hadn't thought about that.

00:23:40.06
Bear_ of the Internet
And he goes, yeah, if you make that change, we'll take 50 of them. um Okay. So, yeah, so I call my buddy at the sew shop and I'm like, hey, do you still have that pizza box thing?

00:23:48.48
Keith
That's a problem you want to have right there.

00:23:54.18
Bear_ of the Internet
And he's like, uh-huh. I said, cool. Can you make 50 more? And he's like, uh, yeah, give me like six weeks. But cool. And so another buddy writes back, Hey, if you make these little tweaks, we'll take a hundred of them.

00:24:04.60
Bear_ of the Internet
Okay. I'm like, I think we're in business here. So we start making these first aid kits and we've now grown from in five years, uh, to more than 53,000 customers, uh, products on four continents, all branches of the armed forces, electively,

00:24:22.47
Bear_ of the Internet
civilian applications, law enforcement, EMS, fire. um We've trained about 10,000 people in pre-hospital trauma medicine and all of its various forms. And 164 people are still alive because we showed up to work and 10 babies have been born. And so that's where refuge came from. And the mission there, our mission statement hangs up on a banner inside of our HQ, which is to save lives while service to the father's kingdom and experience the abundance of his provision and blessing.

00:24:54.73
Bear_ of the Internet
And about 18 months ago, i vertically integrated one of our so shops, meaning I bought them and they now work underneath our roof. And so we have our own so shop where we manufacture American made products in house.

00:25:10.52
Bear_ of the Internet
And, um, we've got two other American. So shops that are subcontractors for us to take our overflow and about last fall, last fall ish. I got this crazy phone call that was like, Hey, um, what do you know about DARPA? i was like the people who invented the internet. They're like, yeah.

00:25:32.13
Bear_ of the Internet
It's like, that's it. That's it. That's all I know about DARPA. I also, I think they killed that guy that made that car run on water, the dune buggy thing. They're like, yeah, we we don't talk about that. i'm like, okay, cool.

00:25:42.46
Keith
and kill And killer robots.

00:25:43.77
Bear_ of the Internet
And oh, oh brother, you have no idea.

00:25:46.26
Buddy
Oh, you know we'll go. we'll We'll touch that one later.

00:25:49.30
Bear_ of the Internet
So, so they're like, Hey, we're going to email you a zoom link. Uh, I'm like, okay, do you want my email? No, we got it. Okay. And I get the zoom link and it's for this DARPA mash program, which is medics autonomously stopping hemorrhage, which is trying to teach robots to do um frontline surgery for non-compressible thorax hemorrhage, AKA bleeders in the box.

00:26:13.82
Bear_ of the Internet
And I sat on the zoom call for about five hours with 184 other people on the call. And I realized pretty quick, there were about five people on the call who had seen blood before, three of them were in uniform presenting on behalf of DARPA. The other two was me and one of my lead instructors, Mike, and everybody else was just nerd squad. Um, which makes sense cause robots, but, um,

00:26:39.26
Bear_ of the Internet
So I put it together as the middle for DARPA and I basically said, hey, I think your program is stupid. And I think that a lot of people are going to die if you're dependent upon robots to do field expedient surgery with a two hour window for efficacy because your patient will have been dead for an hour and 45 minutes. So rather than trying to teach the robots through large language models and AI and blah, blah, blah, machine learning,

00:27:07.61
Bear_ of the Internet
and have the robots do surgery on non-compressible thorax hemorrhage. What if we use the robots to pick all the low hanging fruit and to buy the medics time back so that the medic and the physician can do the most important thing that they have to do? And DARPA was like, bet. And then that program got classified. And so now we're doing that. We're also working on a developmental contract for the United States Marine Corps in a similar vein. So yeah.

00:27:38.99
Buddy
That's a heavy lift there.

00:27:41.02
Keith
I just don't think that I want to have a robot working on me if I got a hole in my body.

00:27:47.00
Bear_ of the Internet
Yeah, yeah, I don't either. um and so...

00:27:50.42
Keith
So when you said DARPA, I was thinking like like med medical beds, like med bays or something where you you know you go inside and a robot works on you inside there, but... Look, realistically, you're talking about like a combat ah type of injuries that happen instantly and have to be, have to be worked on instantly.

00:28:03.86
Bear_ of the Internet
sure

00:28:08.72
Keith
I saw a video of you in your refuge medical shop, sticking your finger down into a hole for blood, blood coming out and all kinds of weird stuff. I mean, you got, you have to do that instantly.

00:28:17.98
Bear_ of the Internet
Yup. Yup. And, and so that's the thing, right? Um, they're trying to, so have you seen Hegseth and, uh, Trump, right? AI is the new man Manhattan project, right? They're treating it the same as nuclear weapons of world war two.

00:28:37.37
Bear_ of the Internet
And, um, There's a lot of disparities there between, you know, computing power and, and frankly, generalized IQ of the population between China and the United States of America.

00:28:49.00
Bear_ of the Internet
And so without getting into the stereotype of Asians, I mean, it's just a fact, bro.

00:28:52.54
Keith
What is that? What is it? What are you trying to say there? does that mean?

00:28:56.87
Bear_ of the Internet
The, the, the Chinese average an IQ of about 130 and Americans have you an average an IQ of about a hundred. And so,

00:29:04.89
Keith
whoo

00:29:06.07
Bear_ of the Internet
And I'm an American and I'm a corn fed white guy. i'm I could be offended, but I'm not. It's true. And so when we look at the disparities from a technological standpoint, one of the things that AI does, and I'm not a big fan of AI or at least generalized AI.

00:29:24.79
Bear_ of the Internet
One of the things that it does is it closes gaps because the computer is doing the computing, not the human. Look at what Lucky ah lucky Palmer is doing with Anduril with these heads up display ballistic helmets, all of which are running a meshy network so that everybody can talk to each other. um And they're using burst communications there because they're they're having issues.

00:29:47.42
Bear_ of the Internet
or I should say the DOD and DARPA anticipate having issues with anything that emanates on the modern battlefield because it's targetable. And so...

00:29:57.85
Bear_ of the Internet
The Chinese are several steps ahead of us as far as weaponizing AI, which is why Hexeth and Trump are doing as much as they can to get, you Grok and Gemini and all these other programs ah onboarded militarily to stream to streamline the DOD's warfighting processes.

00:30:18.87
Bear_ of the Internet
You also see that manifested currently with the, um they just put out an executive order, I think a couple of weeks ago, limiting salary cap for all defense contractors.

00:30:30.04
Bear_ of the Internet
which we can argue one way then or another, but um rather than spending $68,000 for a 10-pack of steel pins from Raytheon, they're just 3D printing them now. The DoD itself is additive manufacturing for a cost of about $6.

00:30:48.15
Bear_ of the Internet
And so there's a lot of streamlining of processes right now. That's an anticipation.

00:30:52.09
Keith
I mean, that doesn't sound so bad to me. i don't Does it sound bad to you?

00:30:55.93
Bear_ of the Internet
I don't think it's bad at all other than the fact that it's an indicator that we are likely to be using those processes in the near future.

00:31:03.98
Keith
Yeah. Well, you know, and Headsec went down to, i heard the speech that he did with, ah I think it was a SpaceX or with elon Musk, whatever it was. And basically he sat there saying, we need weapons of the future and we think you can build them for us.

00:31:20.26
Bear_ of the Internet
Mm-hmm.

00:31:21.71
Keith
That's pretty serious. I don't know if Elon Musk is, I don't know how those youngsters at SpaceX and all that think about building weapons, but is that that's not something that they do that if we know of, at least at this point.

00:31:32.95
Bear_ of the Internet
ah I don't, I don't have a whole lot of fidelity on whether or not SpaceX has a weapons program. My concern with SpaceX would be the ideological alignment of the people performing the work.

00:31:45.94
Keith
Yes, exactly.

00:31:47.67
Bear_ of the Internet
Um, you know, insider threat is the most dangerous threat.

00:31:48.94
Buddy
Definitely.

00:31:52.02
Bear_ of the Internet
Um, and just because somebody has got a security clearance, that don't mean shit. Um, so Anderil is currently there. They're the darling of the defense industry re AI currently.

00:32:05.34
Bear_ of the Internet
um but it there's, there are disparities between the United States and China. And, as far as war fighting capability is concerned and, uh,

00:32:16.82
Bear_ of the Internet
there's pros and cons on both sides. So United States has the largest expedition expeditionary military in the history of the world. Right. We're like Oprah with carrier strike groups.

00:32:28.35
Bear_ of the Internet
You know, you look underneath your chair, you get a CVN and you get a CVN. Everybody gets a CVN.

00:32:33.85
Buddy
Yeah.

00:32:34.42
Keith
I want one.

00:32:34.55
Bear_ of the Internet
Right. i Listen, man, other than the operational costs, I'm in. um but ah and But so China's ability to counter that.

00:32:45.51
Bear_ of the Internet
They technically have more ships than we do, although 90% of those ships are so really their boats, not ships. And they're, but what China is doing and has been doing is building dual use infrastructure.

00:32:58.27
Bear_ of the Internet
And that's something that the United States hasn't done. And so, for example, a lot of.

00:33:03.48
Keith
They have the minerals to build the chips, too. I'm sorry to cut you off, but isn't that true? They've got most of the minerals that build the chips and the computer stuff.

00:33:09.66
Bear_ of the Internet
hmm.

00:33:12.31
Bear_ of the Internet
Yeah, depending on what it is that we're talking about technologically, they control somewhere between 80 and 90 percent of the precursor to all technology, ah which is why you're seeing the the United States, federal government and Department of Defense partnering with ah these different mineral companies and mining companies now in the United States of America.

00:33:18.49
Keith
Right. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

00:33:33.30
Bear_ of the Internet
Because both economies, both China and the United States, are we're both racing towards the bottom right now. Regardless of what the news media propaganda says, we're both racing towards the bottom. And all you got to do is just look at the valuation of silver.

00:33:48.15
Bear_ of the Internet
Okay. ah My wife and I bought some silver three months ago and I, we bought some more silver three months ago and paid, I think it was $52 an ounce for it. And I told her the other day, I said, Hey babe, we've doubled on silver.

00:34:03.70
Bear_ of the Internet
She's like, what? said, yeah, yeah. We should probably buy some more. OK, so both economies, both China and America, our economies are racing towards the bottom. And the current assessment is that China has China will win that race to the bottom because they have more centralized control over manufacturing, industry, technology, et cetera. Whereas the United States is not, you know, because we're supposed to be capitalist. You know we're capitalist with an asterisk on the end.

00:34:30.87
Bear_ of the Internet
And so um that's why you see the DOD streamlining processes, but it's also why you see the DOD and the Fed investing in these manufacturing and mining and and energy outfits, because all of those things, those are all precursors setting the conditions for survivability of the American populace and the American military in the next coming war. And it's it's coming, unfortunately, but it is coming.

00:34:58.90
Bear_ of the Internet
Or I should say, at least the United States Department of Defense is convinced that it's coming and is acting as if it is coming.

00:35:05.59
Keith
Well, now, isn't this part of the reason why we're trying to get Greenland? i mean, they they've got their minerals are underground that we need for the AI and all the other stuff, plus the strategic location of it between Russia and us and the fact that China and Russia both want it and and could take it at any given time. But just ah just the the thought of us trying to buy Greenland, which, by the way, has been done tried for many, many times in the past. That one thing is splitting the country and and heading towards some some sort of a, i don't want to say civil war, but it could. The way things are looking on TV right now, it sure could.

00:35:42.42
Bear_ of the Internet
well when it comes to civil war um i think the conditions have already been set for civil war and we're currently in the gray zone stage which just hasn't gone fully kinetic yet um Really, Greenland, my favorite explanation as to why Trump is after Greenland, i saw this on the internet, therefore it must be true, is because there's a 50,000-year-old UFO on Greenland that's stuck in the ice.

00:36:01.93
Buddy
Oh, Yeah.

00:36:07.10
Buddy
so yeah yeah

00:36:07.77
Bear_ of the Internet
And that's where all of our technology has come from.

00:36:09.71
Keith
Oh my God.

00:36:10.65
Bear_ of the Internet
And so it's a race to the UFO. And I think the most plausible reason that we should be chasing Greenland is we all know if you play the game Risk, you get five additional armies if you control all of North America. um So, but yes, we do have...

00:36:26.58
Bear_ of the Internet
So anything that's going to come from Russia is going to come over the Arctic Circle, right? And so Greenland, we've the United States has already invested a a significant amount of money and time and effort into Greenland. We want that early warning system. But let's not forget Canada up there. 40 million of our homies ah up above the imaginary line in the snow. We've got Carney just fell in love with Xi Jinping again, like two days ago is at the time of recording. where China is committed deeply and Canada is committed deeply to China. And so we have a threat immediately on our northern border and Americans are very blase about Canada. It's like, well, what are they going to do? Ride a moose across the line and shoot us with a bow and arrow? They don't have any guns.

00:37:13.59
Bear_ of the Internet
they you know They don't, but there's a lot of Chinese up there. And if you look at what China has been doing with their Belt and Road Initiative in the Western Hemisphere, re-Monroe Doctrine 2.0, they have encircled the United States of America all the way around.

00:37:30.49
Bear_ of the Internet
So, oh yeah.

00:37:31.22
Buddy
And they're in the United States. I mean, there're there's the numbers are very high that they're here and operational as well.

00:37:33.80
Bear_ of the Internet
Yeah.

00:37:38.46
Bear_ of the Internet
So depending on who you ask, as far as total Chinese that are in the United States of America, the low number that I've seen is 4 million. The high number that I've seen is 20 million. These being not just, you know, dual citizenship or American citizen Chinese descent, but undocumented Chinese that are here.

00:37:56.76
Bear_ of the Internet
And I know like ah in Oklahoma, there's a lot of weed farms and one county around here, there's 29 marijuana grow operations. 27 of the 29 are owned by the CCP. The other two are owned by Russians, all of which are tied to organized crime.

00:38:15.32
Keith
Is that legal?

00:38:16.86
Bear_ of the Internet
Well, it's it's legal-esque.

00:38:19.94
Buddy
Mm-hmm.

00:38:20.25
Bear_ of the Internet
it's So what happens with this is it's all above the board, right? And so in this one county where there's 27 grow operations that are owned by the CCP, that's all above board.

00:38:31.99
Bear_ of the Internet
But they're producing revenue that's legitimate above the ah threshold of detection revenue that they then have to do something with. So one particular grow operation got raided because they had a bunch of illegals there.

00:38:46.14
Bear_ of the Internet
And when everybody thinks illegals, we think south of the American border. We don't...

00:38:50.04
Keith
We think Mexicans.

00:38:51.26
Bear_ of the Internet
Right. We don't think elsewhere. So they had over a hundred illegal military age males of Chinese descent there. And they had Connex boxes upon, I mean, dozens of Connex boxes.

00:39:04.34
Bear_ of the Internet
The guy who had been running the girl operation had been in the country for more than 30 years legally. And what he was doing with his legal revenue was he would just buy two to four AR-15s a year and get 10 to 12 magazines for him and then 10,000 rounds per rifle.

00:39:22.30
Bear_ of the Internet
And he'd been stocking con X boxes full of this stuff and armor and enablers and blah, blah, blah, all the things. And he's got a hundred plus military age males. There were a hundred there that day when it got rated.

00:39:35.96
Bear_ of the Internet
And there's 27 in that one County grow operations. How many more are there around the country? And is it just grow operations or, ah or there are multiple other businesses that are fronts for this type of activity. And the answer is there's multiple types of businesses that are front for this activity. And so that actually gets into capitulation. You brought up World War III and Civil War 2.0. What does that look like?

00:40:01.27
Bear_ of the Internet
One of the things that most people aren't tracking on is what's called capitulation. What that means is <unk> it's the basic premise that our air quote elected leadership will not even put up a fight.

00:40:14.30
Bear_ of the Internet
that they will just give up and sign the country over. And that's something that I think most people haven't even considered. If you think about our current air quote elected air quote representatives, we know that most of them are already sold out. They're already bought and paid for.

00:40:36.15
Bear_ of the Internet
Why wouldn't they capitulate?

00:40:39.33
Keith
right, so just to be clear, what you're saying is turning the United States over to another country?

00:40:45.19
Bear_ of the Internet
That's exactly what I'm saying.

00:40:46.17
Keith
No way.

00:40:47.64
Bear_ of the Internet
that's So the current assessment from the alpha Alphabet Soup Boys, whose intel flow that I am in, puts the capitulation likelihood, now this is important, 10 years after everything, everywhere, all at once, which begins with the Chinese attack on America,

00:41:07.48
Bear_ of the Internet
touch on that in a minute. So within 10 years of that event, the likelihood of capitulation is 48.5%. So just about a coin toss.

00:41:15.88
Keith
Holy shit. shit

00:41:19.99
Bear_ of the Internet
So we already have these elected representatives that are not operating the best interest of the country because they're bought out. If you look at the West Coast, look at a lot of these major cities,

00:41:32.79
Bear_ of the Internet
these very blue cities where you see um socialism, which is you know light communism being pushed, but Mondami in New York City, for example. um All these cities, population high population density areas where they are more liberal, more socialist, that's all a precursor to communism.

00:41:54.74
Bear_ of the Internet
okay So you push that Overton window far enough, the new boss is just like the old boss. instead of, and here's the thing with capitulation, depending on what capitulation looks like, we may never know that instead of allegedly our elected representatives representing our best interests and operating as a constitutional Republic that no, we're not, we're America 2.0,

00:42:23.99
Bear_ of the Internet
under the guise of freedom and liberty that are actually being controlled by a country half-world away. So that's covert capitulation. Overt capitulation involves actual ground enemy ground forces here in the United States of America there's also a probability to that.

00:42:39.82
Bear_ of the Internet
And most people can't wrap their brains around that because they say, you know it's impossible to invade the United States of America. We've got the Pacific on one side, the Atlantic on the other, lots of borders. We've got the long longest navigable riverine system in the world, in the Mississippi River.

00:42:56.79
Keith
Mm-hmm. Yep.

00:42:56.98
Bear_ of the Internet
we've got We've got two mountain ranges, the Rockies and Appalachia. You can't invade. Well, they're already here. That's the thing. They're already here. The FBI says that just just Muslim extremist terrorists, just them, there's already 4,000 known cells here.

00:43:16.41
Bear_ of the Internet
And there's only 3,000 counties in the country. So there's at least one cell for each county. And when we think you know Islamic extremism, we think you know maybe S-Vest, maybe AK, maybe, but these are Eight to 12 man teams patterned off ah patterned off of an SF ODA and their training.

00:43:38.90
Bear_ of the Internet
And that's just the Muslim extremist threat. Doesn't include the Chinese, doesn't include the Russians, doesn't include half a dozen other countries, frankly, doesn't include the Israelis. um And so when it goes hot...

00:43:53.18
Bear_ of the Internet
Not if, but when it goes hot, all these different factions are going to be vying for control, regional control throughout the United States of America. And so what does Civil War 2.0 look like? There's going to be a huge component of vulcanization here. It's going to go from national to regional like like real quick.

00:44:14.55
Keith
Okay, now i'm scared. i wasn i wasn't before this conversation. I am now. I don't think I have enough ammo.

00:44:22.71
Bear_ of the Internet
I don't know how much ammo. Oh, let's talk about that. So Pigeon Forge, Tennessee, ah you may be aware recently they had an $89.2 million dollars contract that was disclosed where they were making serious putty for Naval Special Warfare, and that place exploded.

00:44:42.38
Keith
Wait, like literally exploded?

00:44:42.48
Bear_ of the Internet
What's literally exploded

00:44:45.42
Keith
Oh, shit.

00:44:46.46
Bear_ of the Internet
what is not being talked about, what hasn't been disclosed is that they also made all almost all of the nitrocellulose for everything from five, five, six ammo up to artillery rounds.

00:45:01.50
Bear_ of the Internet
And so we have two places left in the country that make that stuff, manufacture and assemble that stuff. So you've got Lake city up in, uh,

00:45:13.10
Bear_ of the Internet
Missouri, and then you've got McAllister in Oklahoma, kind of central Oklahoma. And that's it. And so currently, nobody is feeling the effects of an ammunition shortage because very few people in the middle of January are buying ammunition. They're usually paying off their credit cards from Christmas.

00:45:33.37
Bear_ of the Internet
And then somewhere around February, we're about a month out, from ah Valentine's Day and everybody, they'll buy some roses and a card or maybe a teddy bear and maybe they'll go out to dinner and, you know, whatever.

00:45:46.90
Bear_ of the Internet
And then somewhere in March, the temperature is going to start to change again and people are going to start to train again, go out to the range or go do, you know, SUT or whatever it is that they do. And they're going to expel some ammunition and they're going to go to buy some ammunition and they're going to realize that the ammunition stockpiles that we have been working off of since that plant exploded, what, November, October of 2025, those stockpiles haven't been replenished.

00:46:14.01
Bear_ of the Internet
So AAC Ammunition, which is a subsidiary of ah Palmetto State Armory, They put out a press statement saying, hey, guys, we're so sorry. We can no longer offer ammunition on the civilian market because of our defense contracts. you know Please forgive us.

00:46:32.90
Bear_ of the Internet
That's what was stated publicly. What they didn't state was they closed the doors to their ammunition plant because they can't get nitrocellulose and they can't fill their defense contracts either. All that to say the ammunition that we have is the ammunition that we have. And there's likely to be a run on ammunition in March because they're not making any more of it.

00:46:53.85
Keith
Oh, okay.

00:46:54.78
Buddy
So, yeah, but...

00:46:54.88
Keith
So, okay, no, hold on. I got, I got questions here. First of all, what is the, what is this material that they're making in Lake City, Missouri? What does it do for the ammo?

00:47:04.52
Bear_ of the Internet
It's the powder.

00:47:05.61
Keith
It's the powder.

00:47:05.72
Bear_ of the Internet
So they they assemble everything. Right. So you start with your components, bullet, the primer, the brass, the powder and assemble it. And they assemble it by the millions and millions and millions of rounds.

00:47:19.00
Keith
In lakes, in the, in the facility of Lake City, it's, it's not that big of a place.

00:47:19.10
Bear_ of the Internet
But that.

00:47:23.54
Bear_ of the Internet
Lake City Ammunition.

00:47:25.04
Buddy
Oh man. Yeah, it is

00:47:26.78
Bear_ of the Internet
no

00:47:26.82
Buddy
It's huge.

00:47:26.87
Keith
Is it really?

00:47:27.67
Buddy
Yeah. If you, when i you know, when I was in the military, all of our ammo, especially here your, match grade stuff, uh, I think every box set, you know, had Lake city on it. There was very few boxes of anything that didn't have Lake city on it.

00:47:43.77
Buddy
Um, I mean, they're they're huge in the industry. And, you know, when you're talking about putting this stuff together, we that's what we call reloading, you know, because you're not making gunpowder in your in your garage or your basement.

00:47:59.43
Buddy
You're actually putting stuff together.

00:47:59.80
Keith
Right.

00:48:01.79
Buddy
you're You're reloading is what you're doing. You're taking the 5.56 round from last week at the range. You know, the brass, you clean it up a little bit and you're throwing some stuff in there and putting, you know, blasting caps and all your stuff in there.

00:48:12.57
Bear_ of the Internet
So ah just a quick Google foo. Lake City Army Ammunition Plant has a massive capacity capable of producing around 1.6 billion rounds annually, primarily for the U.S. military, but also supplying the civilian market with hundreds of millions of rounds yearly, mainly 5.56 for AR-15s to keep lines active and affordable. Managed by Winchester, it is the world's largest small arms producer. you sir

00:48:39.61
Buddy
Yeah,

00:48:39.64
Bear_ of the Internet
So...

00:48:40.34
Keith
Yeah, no, no. um'm like I've got it up on Google Maps right now as well. It is it is massive. I thought it was i thought it was much smaller.

00:48:45.03
Buddy
it's kind of a big thing.

00:48:47.62
Keith
I'm in Missouri. lakes Lake City, I just always thought it was a tiny little place, but that is a big facility.

00:48:52.73
Bear_ of the Internet
Yeah. Yeah. It's ah it's it's key. Right. And speaking of which, so McAllister here in Oklahoma, um they make you might have heard of the Moab a massive ordnance air blaster, mother of all bombs, you know, 20,000 pound bunker buster and everything from 500 pound dumb bombs to J dams, hellfires, artillery rounds, all that's made of McAllister.

00:49:10.22
Keith
Yep. yep

00:49:16.85
Bear_ of the Internet
Right.

00:49:17.30
Buddy
And it's pretty awesome to watch when you've actually seen one. it It's something else. It is badass.

00:49:22.30
Bear_ of the Internet
Well, the, uh, I, I know a guy who but we'll just say used to be, you know, he's vet, uh, former soft dude, and he was, instrumental at the executive level in the city of McAllister.

00:49:37.72
Bear_ of the Internet
Just say that. And the Chinese tried to buy an old concrete plant that had rail frontage directly next to, ah Lake city.

00:49:50.74
Bear_ of the Internet
And, um What they were trying to put in was a, um oh gosh, it was a fertilizer plant.

00:50:00.17
Buddy
Oh, man.

00:50:00.89
Bear_ of the Internet
and And my buddy was like, yeah, my buddy was like, uh-uh.

00:50:02.58
Keith
Can anybody say explosives?

00:50:04.54
Buddy
Yeah.

00:50:06.49
Bear_ of the Internet
And the city council was like, why? It'll be great for the economic development. He's like, no, nope, we're not we're not doing it. And they're like, well, what what could possibly go wrong? and he's like, I don't know. They could blow up McAllister. Right.

00:50:19.83
Bear_ of the Internet
So,

00:50:21.75
Buddy
Yeah, you just got to watch Bugs Bunny and and you'll know all about that.

00:50:25.82
Bear_ of the Internet
yeah. And so ah I've been dancing and ah I haven't stayed on a topic longer than 30 to 60 seconds. I apologize for that, but it's it's a lot, right? There's just a lot going on out there. um So especially when it comes to like Civil War 2.0, I think the conditions have already been set and it just hasn't gone fully kinetic yet.

00:50:48.28
Buddy
I believe we're we're in it right now. I think i think the it's when you when you say Civil War, everybody thinks there's going to be you know gray uniforms on one side, blue on the other, and there's going line and people going to load up their muskets and shoot it out at each other and then take a step and load it up. and you know That's not what it's going to look like. What we're seeing now in Minneapolis, l L.A., Portland,

00:51:11.34
Buddy
that's what civil war 2.0 is going to look like what you see on the news about what's happening in white house and this is my opinion of course but that's that's civil war 2.0 we're we're there and early phases i believe um i agree with you on that but you know it's not it's not going to be a kinetic it'll be some skirmishes yes and it might even pop off to where it's full you know full go on both sides but you know um I actually went to Serbia and and you know Bosnia during that you the whole thing in the 90s.

00:51:42.46
Buddy
And it it's hard, man, when when your neighbors don't look like you or maybe do look like you but have a different religion and different you know thought patterns. you know Who's friend or foe? you know You just have to know the people. So you know it's going to get messy.

00:51:59.54
Bear_ of the Internet
hu it'll definitely get messy. And one of the things that, so I, I believe that it will begin in the most populous areas first and then spread out from urban areas to suburban areas.

00:52:14.82
Bear_ of the Internet
And then possibly depending on what your lines of drift look like, move from suburban areas out into rural areas.

00:52:18.49
Buddy
yeah

00:52:22.04
Buddy
Can you touch on lines of drift?

00:52:22.43
Bear_ of the Internet
And

00:52:23.48
Buddy
Because people, they don't really, we've used the term a little bit, but I don't think everybody gets it.

00:52:29.19
Bear_ of the Internet
Okay. So to to simplify as much as possible, right? Lines of drift, up maybe if if somebody's ever been a deer hunter, right? And like this time of year, you're out in the woods and the vegetation is off and you can see where the trails are, where do they move, right? And so they typically move from bed down location to where water is at, to where food is at, and then back to bed down location. They make these little circles, you know, or little triangles and you can see the trails where they move. Well, people are creatures of habit too. It's one of the ways we find bad guys is pattern of life. Right. And so we, we don't want to think that we're that predictable, but if you were to audit your actions and behaviors for a day or two, you'd realize you're very predictable as am I, we're all kind of set in our ways. And so when it comes to lines of drift,

00:53:20.79
Bear_ of the Internet
People tend to travel on improved roads, then unimproved roads, and then trails, right? And so the greater the existing roads are, if there's an exodus from high population density to low population density, the likelihood is they're going to travel upon primary roads first.

00:53:39.90
Bear_ of the Internet
They also tend to travel down in elevation, not up. It's very rare that people gain altitude, right? And depending on what region you live in, Your topography is going to be different. I'm in the foothills of the Ouachita Mountains, which is, you know, part of the Ozarks. And so we've got some hills and some so small mountains around here. People aren't drifting upward. They're drifting downward. Water also collects downward, right? Water, you find it in your valleys. That's where your streams, your rivers, your creeks are. Interestingly, people will follow streams and creeks, but they don't like to cross them.

00:54:17.53
Bear_ of the Internet
Which is funny to me because like you're going to get wet anyway. Right. That's what we would call a linear danger area. And so they may follow creeks and streams along the banks or railroad lines is another one or high tension power lines, the right away or gas right away.

00:54:36.26
Bear_ of the Internet
Areas of least resistance. And so those lines of drift, that's where people are going to move for the typically the untrained and the um barely trained are going to move along the paths of least resistance.

00:54:49.78
Bear_ of the Internet
The more trained, better trained are going to move against the lines of drift because it removes that predictability. You know, you know, if you're patrolling and there's a trail, right, like you don't walk on the trail, walk parallel to the trail, you know, 50 meters off of it to one side.

00:55:04.51
Bear_ of the Internet
where So where you can see it, but you don't want to get ambushed on the trail. Well, most of these people are going to be walking along interstates and county roads and and stuff like that.

00:55:08.58
Buddy
Yep.

00:55:13.85
Bear_ of the Internet
So understanding for the listener, you can do some quick Google Foo here on what a line of drift is and understand, do an area study, a map recon of where you are.

00:55:24.70
Bear_ of the Internet
And where do people drift? And so from a strategic relocation standpoint, I don't want to be on a line of drift. And if I am, there's ways you can mitigate that. There's things that you can do.

00:55:36.60
Bear_ of the Internet
But that's probably a different conversation. But people move. And especially when we are in a resource contested environment, people move, whether they want to or not. And the high population density areas are net consumers of resources.

00:55:52.57
Bear_ of the Internet
They don't produce energy. They don't produce food. They don't produce water. They consume those things. Well, when those when the stockpiles are depleted and there's nothing more coming, or what is coming is being heavily rationed by whatever faction is currently in power, people will leave those areas and go to a less populous area to have access to resources. It's all a game of resources. And where they move is typically along those lines of drift.

00:56:20.95
Buddy
Yeah, it's a good explanation there. and And so in your opinion, what is a timeframe when you're going to see that national line of drift from the larger populations out to the you know the rural areas and stuff?

00:56:33.91
Bear_ of the Internet
It's a great question. So i I think that right now on all indicators point towards one third chance by early 2027 that everything everywhere all at once has occurred.

00:56:45.94
Bear_ of the Internet
If it goes full blown kinetic in these cities, high population density areas, I would say no later than 72 hours out from a zero day does do people start moving? And if you think about a, think about a city like Dallas, right? Dallas, Fort Worth Metroplex,

00:57:07.77
Bear_ of the Internet
um you can't move in any cardinal direction from Dallas proper without moving through suburbs first before you end up in rural areas. And it'd be really hard to find wilderness at this point in and that area of Texas. You've got to move a few hundred miles before you're in wilderness. Wilderness meaning the absence of people and infrastructure. Okay.

00:57:31.35
Bear_ of the Internet
So I'd say within 72 hours, although kind of the textbook answer here is three missed meals. Okay. And so with three missed meals, I think you start to get localized chaos. You get riots. You get people stealing from each other locally until those resources are depleted.

00:57:48.92
Bear_ of the Internet
And or the see, this is the other thing. There's preexisting networks right now of ah good guys and bad guys, law enforcement, EMS and fire and National Guard and police.

00:58:01.50
Bear_ of the Internet
The Crips, the Bloods, MS-13, Trendy, Aragua, Hell's Angels, all all these other groups, they fall somewhere on the spectrum between good and bad. And so in a contested environment, all these groups are going to be vying for as much control of territory and resources as possible just to be able to self-sustain.

00:58:21.66
Bear_ of the Internet
And then once resources continue to become depleted, there you're going to come into conflict with one another. We're seeing the same thing geopolitically right now on the world stage. There's an entire thesis that we're going to a tripolar world, which will be the United States controls the Western hemisphere. China controls China and the Pacific Rim and all that region there. And then Russia gets Europe as an economic zone and the EU or Europeans and Russia are going to have to learn to play nice with one another. And where the potential fault lines are going to occur is in Africa. because there's a lot of resources that haven't really been extracted out of Africa yet. And there's 27 different foreign militaries on African soil right now. So that's the same concept, just on a global scale rather than a local scale.

00:59:12.02
Bear_ of the Internet
Locally, once those resources are depleted, whatever power structures exist are going to begin to start clashing against one another to control territory because territory controls resources. um And then as they get depleted,

00:59:24.89
Bear_ of the Internet
resources get depleted, they will either move to a more resource-rich environment or they'll start conducting raids to go and acquire resources and then return back to their home base.

00:59:36.34
Buddy
Yeah.

00:59:36.41
Keith
Okay, so, okay, back up a second here, and I know we're getting we're getting late in the game here. You say kinetic, and when I when i hear the word kinetic, I'm thinking that's when bolts start flying.

00:59:48.67
Bear_ of the Internet
Mm-hmm.

00:59:49.11
Keith
Okay, so we know, well look, i' i I'm not naive to think that the left, let's call them, you know to aren't armed, but they're nowhere near as armed as as us. Tell

01:00:02.86
Bear_ of the Internet
Yeah. So here's the, here's the thing.

01:00:05.08
Keith
ah to tell the truth.

01:00:07.06
Bear_ of the Internet
So there are fewer of them that are armed, but the ones that are armed are training very intentionally. The other thing too, is like a lot of the training that I have received throughout my lifetime has been from military veterans. Okay. I did not serve myself, but my family's full of them. My, my, uh, Rolodex is full of them. I employ a bunch of them. I kind of speak that language, right?

01:00:31.58
Bear_ of the Internet
And so I've had a lifetime of training. i've had six Green Beret mentors to date. Why? I don't know. The father's just smiling upon me. It's a blast. So like, you know the tenets of unconventional warfare are just, they're beaten into my head at this point.

01:00:46.49
Bear_ of the Internet
But not the military as a whole and SOF as a whole. They're not homogenous in their ideological structure. So there's plenty of people that have worn the uniform or are wearing the uniform that at all levels, from your standard infantry grunt all the way up to your Delta Force CAG operator, okay, that you would think you would have a high amount of ideological alignment with. And the answer is not necessarily.

01:01:17.11
Bear_ of the Internet
And so we know documented cases right now, for example, Antifa, BLM, et cetera, these far-left Soros-funded, they're not protesters. They're paid agitators, right?

01:01:30.14
Bear_ of the Internet
We know they are being trained to being trained actively by people with very interesting backgrounds and capabilities. They're currently, what we're seeing is very sloppy. You're seeing pictures of these guys out of Minneapolis where they have plate carriers with no plates in them. They got mag shingles with no magazines in them. They've got rifles with a front sight, but no rear sight, whatever it might be.

01:01:53.24
Bear_ of the Internet
Currently very sloppy, but I'll tell you what, they are training And they're absolutely presenting themselves, which is something that the right, for lack of a better term, the more conservative, maybe more traditional people are not doing.

01:02:09.05
Bear_ of the Internet
And one of the things I've been hearing my entire life is just you wait till the people that don't want to be involved, get off the bench and get involved. Well, when is that going to be? Because it wasn't COVID.

01:02:20.57
Bear_ of the Internet
It wasn't 9-11. It isn't right now. At what point are the people that don't want to be involved actually going to get involved? um And I think a lot of that has to do with the conservative mindset is our we want to conserve. We want to protect. We have more traditional values. um and So it's like, du well, don't start a fight, son, but damn well end it if it comes to you.

01:02:43.96
Bear_ of the Internet
Well, if it hasn't come to me individually yet, do I go, do I end that fight? And I think that's something a lot of people are wrestling with right now. But I don't think that many regions in North America are going to be safe.

01:02:57.82
Bear_ of the Internet
And they are training and there's a lot of them. They're very well funded and they're actually very well organized. I'll tell you this thing that just went down with Don Lemon in Minneapolis.

01:03:08.82
Bear_ of the Internet
If those ICE protesters walked into my church when I was preaching, and this is not hubris, it would have been a bloodbath.

01:03:11.84
Buddy
No. ah okay oh no

01:03:18.36
Bear_ of the Internet
It would have been, a there would have been no talking. It would have been a bloodbath. And that's the other thing too, to be frank, The pussification of the American male and the teaching that Messiah was this just really nice guy. And then in order for you to be a good Christian man, you just have to be a really nice guy is it's wicked and it's biblically inaccurate. And so I'm seeing slowly an awakening of these men that are actual men, you know, rough around the edges, calloused hands, but they, gosh, dang, they love Messiah and they're just trying to be a better person. Right.

01:03:54.73
Bear_ of the Internet
I'm seeing an awakening of those people going, i I have a biblical responsibility to protect my family, to protect my loved ones, to protect my community, my church, my ecclesia, the body of Christ.

01:04:05.82
Bear_ of the Internet
um And I don't know how. I guess I got to get trained. I guess I have to start doing stuff. And that's slowly starting to come to a boil. And it's my hope that it continues to come to a boil, that more and more men will wake up and realize you have a biblical responsibility to provide for, protect, and bless your household. And whatever the external threat is, it is my job to stand in between that threat and whatever it is that I love and make sure no harm shall come to it.

01:04:33.24
Bear_ of the Internet
That's my job. And so you walk into a church like that with dozens of people screaming, shouting, megaphones, laying hands on people.

01:04:43.77
Bear_ of the Internet
There should, I mean, two seconds in, Glocks and ARs should have started going off like like that fast.

01:04:49.27
Keith
Absolutely.

01:04:51.32
Bear_ of the Internet
And it didn't happen because...

01:04:51.39
Keith
Yep.

01:04:53.91
Bear_ of the Internet
And dude, we train church security. I have two upcoming church security.

01:04:56.82
Keith
God forbid if those people were armed.

01:04:59.58
Bear_ of the Internet
Well, they should be.

01:05:00.92
Keith
No, no, no, no, no.

01:05:01.56
Bear_ of the Internet
Oh.

01:05:01.72
Buddy
the, the,

01:05:01.76
Keith
I'm saying the the the people that came in, if they if they were coming in to to kill people, it would have been over and it would have been over in a heartbeat.

01:05:01.88
Bear_ of the Internet
that

01:05:06.46
Bear_ of the Internet
Yeah. Oh, it would have been a bloodbath in the wrong direction, right?

01:05:11.32
Keith
Right, right.

01:05:12.12
Bear_ of the Internet
So we train church security with Refuge Medical. It's one of my favorite classes to do because there's just a it It's nonstop shattering of myopic paradigms over and over and over again. And for every 10 that I bid, we will perform one.

01:05:32.28
Bear_ of the Internet
And the other nine classes that we don't perform, it's not financial. It's that the church leadership, the pastor and the elders are concerned about the risk of training at their property.

01:05:48.15
Bear_ of the Internet
And I'm like, well, which is a greater risk? We can train in a controlled environment with all kinds of constraints in place to keep it safe. So realistic, but it's safe. Deconflict with law enforcement. We have medical professionals on standby. Tons of security protocols. We're not using live ammunition. Like it's as safe, but realistic as it can possibly get.

01:06:08.25
Bear_ of the Internet
Or somebody walks in here and starts shooting, which is more unsafe, but... Leadership, and this is all across the country. We bid work from coast to coast. Nine in 10 churches that I bid work for, whoever it is that I'm liaising with will come back to me and say, man, we we appreciate you so much. Thank you. Just that I can't get the elders to buy off on it.

01:06:29.69
Bear_ of the Internet
Well, why? Well, they're they're concerned about the safety. They're concerned about the image. They don't want to traumatize anybody at church.

01:06:36.42
Keith
Mm-hmm.

01:06:37.69
Bear_ of the Internet
Okay, well, we need to pull of our pull our heads out of our asses and get realistic about what the threat looks like.

01:06:45.66
Keith
Yeah, they think of this they think the same thing about schools as well. you know They do the same kind of thinking. you know But you were saying before about responsibility. ah I agree with you 100%, and I am responsible for my family, my my my place, my my piece of the earth. But i have I don't feel any responsibility whatsoever to go up to Minnesota and fight those people that are that are up there doing what they're doing. I just don't feel it. like I should have to.

01:07:10.58
Bear_ of the Internet
And so I agree with that. And I think that's part of why um these far left paid agitators haven't been met on the battlefield of life by anyone other than federal troops yet.

01:07:23.93
Keith
Exactly. Yes.

01:07:25.43
Bear_ of the Internet
Because

01:07:25.72
Keith
but But, you know, but, but, but that in itself though, why are the federal troops or even the cops not taking them down? They're obviously doing illegal actions. they're They're causing trouble. Why aren't they, if I walked out into the, if I went down downtown and I walked out in front of a police car in the middle of the road, stopped it and said, you're not going any further. They would shoot me.

01:07:46.74
Keith
Why are this, why is that not happening up there? That's what I like to know.

01:07:50.30
Bear_ of the Internet
Well, so part of it is, again, where are these things happening? This goes back to setting the conditions for conflict. They're happening in places where the local and regional ah judicial judiciary is going to be favorable to the air quote protesters.

01:08:08.44
Bear_ of the Internet
Right. And so when we talk about capitulation and Civil War 2.0 right now, it kind of looks like we've got the federal branch or I'm sorry, the executive branch of the federal government and the Department of Defense. And to a lesser extent, law enforcement, EMS and fire on one side. And then the judicial and the legislative on another side. And on the judicial side, all these district judges,

01:08:33.97
Bear_ of the Internet
um When you think about who appointed these people, were they appointed because of competency or were they appointed because of ideology? you know you've got Biden judges, Obama judges, Clinton judges in some cases that are issuing edicts and credos that go against the directives of the federal government, the office of the chief executive. And we've been we saw that during the 45th presidency. We're seeing that during the 47th presidency right now. All that to say, these federal troops, they have orders, but they don't necessarily have top cover.

01:09:07.26
Buddy
Absolutely.

01:09:09.75
Keith
like You know what? I watch these things on on TV. I'm sure all of us do. and And I just feel like I don't know if I would be able to control myself. I just I just feel like somebody would get shot.

01:09:21.59
Keith
You know, ah just that just that's just coming. from I'm being honest about it.

01:09:25.08
Bear_ of the Internet
h Well, it's going to come to that, right? And I guess just to differentiate here, a lot of us, if you're if you're a person of faith, a person of the book, you've probably heard, thou shalt not kill.

01:09:41.37
Bear_ of the Internet
And I just want to clarify something. In the earliest texts, the Septuagint and the Masoretic texts, it doesn't say thou shalt not kill. That ah came much later with King James.

01:09:51.86
Bear_ of the Internet
It says thou shalt not murder. And killing and murder are two very different things. Murder is premeditated and it's a heart condition. Killing, unfortunately, is just sometimes required in the preservation of life. And so if we go back to this idea of somebody running into your church, if they were armed and they started shooting, what would you do?

01:10:12.92
Bear_ of the Internet
Well, if we're in a deadly force engagement, the only way to stop that is to be better at deadly force than the bad guy. its It's as simple as that. They escalated to that level, not me. Now I need to respond in like kind, preferably as quickly as possible, because statistically, the longer the engagement goes, the lower my sort survivability is. Okay. That's not murder.

01:10:33.43
Bear_ of the Internet
That's killing. And it's killing for the preservation of life. I didn't decide that this guy should come in and start shooting. He did. Right. And that goes back to that more conservative principle of don't start anything, but damn well finish it if it comes to your doorstep.

01:10:48.25
Bear_ of the Internet
As far as self-control is concerned, um the number one way to avoid all of this stuff, whatever it might be, capitulation, civil unrest, World War III, Civil War 2.0, is don't be where the problem is.

01:11:03.05
Bear_ of the Internet
It's as simple as that. Just don't be where the problem is.

01:11:06.55
Keith
Agreed.

01:11:07.43
Buddy
Yep.

01:11:07.44
Bear_ of the Internet
I'm not in Minneapolis because, you know, you play stupid games, you win stupid prizes. There was a lady who just, they drove a minivan, their minivan coming back from a basketball game, family, husband, wife, six kids, got stuck in an a counter ice protest, some ice, uh,

01:11:26.84
Bear_ of the Internet
Tear gas landed underneath of their car, exploded, car gets filled with tear gas, blah, blah, blah. Everybody's got to be rushed to the hospital. And they're like, oh, my gosh, we don't know what happened.

01:11:38.81
Bear_ of the Internet
Well, don't go to the basketball game that's right next to the ice protest. i I don't know.

01:11:45.19
Buddy
Ha,

01:11:45.22
Bear_ of the Internet
I don't know what to tell you. Right. And so there's some people like that where like ah my heart breaks for him, but I also kind of want to slap him upside the head. And you remember those ah Mr. Yuck stickers they used to put on stuff that was poison?

01:12:00.34
Keith
I do not.

01:12:01.27
Bear_ of the Internet
Oh, you never saw the Mr. Yuck sticker?

01:12:02.78
Keith
Oh, were they, were they the flavored ones?

01:12:06.14
Bear_ of the Internet
No, that would have been funny.

01:12:07.51
Keith
but What are you, what are you what are you talking about?

01:12:08.35
Buddy
ha, ha, ha.

01:12:10.31
Bear_ of the Internet
All right. So they used to have these stickers, right? Like ah for like all the cleaning chemicals underneath the sink. It was a, it was like a smiley face, but except it wasn't smiling. It was grimacing and it was called a Mr. Yuck sticker. And it was supposed to let kids know, Hey, don't drink this stuff. It's yucky. Okay.

01:12:30.20
Bear_ of the Internet
It's, it's also,

01:12:31.42
Keith
I had a different picture of what you were talking I was thinking scratch and sniff, something like that.

01:12:32.95
Bear_ of the Internet
yeah it's also bleach. No, no, not that.

01:12:37.77
Keith
Ooh,

01:12:38.62
Bear_ of the Internet
That would have been hysterical.

01:12:39.99
Buddy
Thank you.

01:12:40.79
Bear_ of the Internet
Um, but you know, it's like these tide pods, right?

01:12:41.60
Keith
smells bad. Don't lick it.

01:12:46.07
Bear_ of the Internet
Like the tide pod challenge. If you have to tell somebody that they shouldn't be smoking tide pods, you should like those people shouldn't be reproducing. Um, I think in large part, what we are experiencing as a society is we have nerfed all the edges and that we've taken away a lot of the consequences for people's reckless actions.

01:13:06.97
Bear_ of the Internet
And, I think that's intentional and that's part of setting the conditions again for war and capitulation. But if you play stupid games, you're going to win stupid prizes. And unfortunately, a lot of these people are too oblivious to know that they're playing stupid games in the first place. Well, hopefully for your listeners, you've you've got ah a modicum of situational awareness and we understand that don't go to the basketball game that's right next to the ice protest. That's a bad idea.

01:13:33.16
Keith
That's all we do on this show, man. We just, we constantly push and push for common sense. And I think that our listeners, I mean, we we're at 229 episodes. We've been doing this a long time.

01:13:43.98
Keith
And I think our listeners, they get it by now, but the new people coming in, you know, that's that's the ones I i fear arent aren't there yet, which is why I, you know, appreciate you being here, man.

01:13:54.11
Keith
It's just, you know, you're, you're doing a lot for our listeners just by, just by speaking. So is there anything you want to, you want to add to, I'm sorry.

01:13:58.92
Bear_ of the Internet
Oh, it's an honor.

01:14:01.82
Keith
What'd you say?

01:14:02.65
Bear_ of the Internet
I was saying it's an honor. Thanks for having me.

01:14:04.02
Keith
Oh, yeah, man. it's that's you know Is there anything that you wanted to say, like maybe in closing? I know we did a lot of survival stuff, but as a prepper, is there anything that people might, just a couple of quick things that they might do right now just to get ready for whatever?

01:14:17.98
Bear_ of the Internet
That's a great question. Um, So the devaluation of our currency is is accelerating. And so I know that not everybody has savings squirreled away. But if you do, I would recommend, you know, Dave Ramsey stuff. Keep six months of operational expenses on hand for your household and the rest of that. I've been converting into assets ah nonstop. And by assets, I mean water infrastructure, electrical infrastructure, food storage, et cetera, et cetera.

01:14:50.81
Bear_ of the Internet
And, um, at my channel, YouTube channel, Bear Independent, B-E-A-R Independent, there's a playlist called the Prepper Classroom. And if you don't know where to start, you don't know anything, right? Just start at the Prepper Classroom. And it's literally me from five years ago, standing in front of a whiteboard, explaining Barney style. All right, this is food storage.

01:15:13.34
Bear_ of the Internet
This is what you need for food storage. This is how much you need. And then next, water. Here's how we calculate how much water we need based upon how many people you have in your household, et cetera, et cetera. And, um, I recently reviewed all that footage and it all still stands. It's great intro level to intermediate level preparedness stuff. Um, I think the economy, the the bottom is going to fall out of the economy within the next 12 months, if not significantly sooner. And so I would make whatever moves you need to make. If you can make them, the next thing from there is you need a food plan,

01:15:47.35
Bear_ of the Internet
You need a water plan. And you typically hear you need a gallon of water per person per day. um That's not been my experience with grindstone deployments. It's more like three and five is better.

01:15:58.59
Bear_ of the Internet
because

01:15:58.74
Keith
Is that right?

01:15:59.83
Bear_ of the Internet
Yeah, well, you need a gallon of water to drink. Because you're going to be exerting yourself more when the electrons stop flowing and you're fighting for your life. Okay. So you need a gallon to drink and then you need water for food preparation, water for cleaning your tools, your pots, your your utensils, all of that. And then you need water for sanitation.

01:16:21.02
Bear_ of the Internet
And so... um You know, five vectors for disease, flies, fingers, feces, food, and fluids. And so something as simple as, did you wash your hands after you pooped?

01:16:32.79
Bear_ of the Internet
Well, I'd love to, but I don't have any water. Okay. Well, it's not just gross, it's dangerous, because if you do that long enough, we're all going to poop ourselves to death, and that's going to be a problem.

01:16:41.15
Keith
That's right. Yep.

01:16:42.81
Bear_ of the Internet
So um if you can,

01:16:44.83
Keith
Dysentery. Bad. Mm-mm.

01:16:46.55
Bear_ of the Internet
Yeah, 100%. Cholera? Ew, gross.

01:16:48.91
Keith
Mm-mm.

01:16:49.72
Bear_ of the Internet
So um if you start at a gallon of water per person per day, and if you're in the suburbs or something, okay, get a rainwater barrel. All right, well, that's only 55 gallons. That's better than zero gallons.

01:17:01.16
Bear_ of the Internet
Start there, okay? So you get a water plan put together, and then the other thing that everybody sleeps on because it's not sexy, it's not a new Daniel Defense or a BCM or whatever, you know, Palmetto's coming out with a new shotgun.

01:17:14.45
Bear_ of the Internet
Okay, cool.

01:17:15.14
Keith
Bye.

01:17:16.31
Bear_ of the Internet
Where are you going to poop? Okay. This is really important. And it, it begins with, I have a five foot shovel and I've designated a corner of my yard. That's the latrine.

01:17:28.12
Bear_ of the Internet
Because again, if you don't have a sewage plan, And right now, if you're in an urban or suburban area, you're not on septic, you're on city sewer.

01:17:38.27
Bear_ of the Internet
When the electrons stop, that stops working too. And just so we're all clear here, it is a basic foundational thesis for me that the electrons will stop.

01:17:48.76
Bear_ of the Internet
um I've got myriads of data to back that with. But if I was the bad guy, the first thing I'm taking out is the electrical grid. And it doesn't have to be kinetic. It can be done via cyber. We actually just saw that the United States did that to the Venezuelan grid.

01:18:02.56
Bear_ of the Internet
recently with the Maduro op.

01:18:04.12
Keith
ellen Lights out, man.

01:18:05.05
Bear_ of the Internet
Yep.

01:18:05.95
Keith
Lights out.

01:18:06.30
Bear_ of the Internet
yep And that exploit exists for our power grid as well.

01:18:12.25
Bear_ of the Internet
So, and we are not the only ones that have the ability to enact that exploit.

01:18:12.98
Keith
Man.

01:18:18.36
Bear_ of the Internet
So where am I going to poop is very important. And then you stack food, everybody, they love guns, they love ammo. And I'm a huge second amendment guy, but the likelihood that you, You're going to need to shoot somebody, hopefully, is going to be less than the likelihood you're going to need to eat. You're going to need to sleep. You might get some boo-boos, so you want a decent first aid kit. um And then train.

01:18:43.05
Bear_ of the Internet
That's the other thing with preppers. A lot of people turn it into acquisition of stuff slash hoarding without developing the actual skill sets to use said stuff. And so it's mindset and skill set over tool set.

01:18:58.60
Bear_ of the Internet
Tool set is our third priority. Stuff is our third priority. The first is mindset. The second is skillset. How do I use this stuff? And then lastly is the stuff. So I would absolutely be training. I would engage in every opportunity you can. And I'll leave you with this very simple but effective training for you. It's called the main breaker challenge.

01:19:20.76
Bear_ of the Internet
Friday afternoon when everybody's home to your house, go to the main breaker on your electrical panel and just turn it off. And don't turn it back on till Sunday night. And so you'll go sixty ish hours without electricity and cook food and sleep and communicate and keep yourselves busy and not want to kill everybody in your entire family because you're bored to death.

01:19:43.51
Buddy
Ha ha ha ha.

01:19:44.57
Bear_ of the Internet
Right? And it's it's and if if it gets too bad and we just can't, you admit defeat, you walk back over to the main breaker, you turn it on, and you resolve to do better next time.

01:19:56.76
Bear_ of the Internet
Super simple.

01:19:57.78
Keith
Beautiful.

01:19:58.71
Bear_ of the Internet
Yeah. Yeah.

01:19:59.32
Keith
Absolutely beautiful. Man, you're a hardworking guy. You know, i it's it's you're tiring. um I'm tired. I'm listening to you. I'm tired. But the dedication is not lost on us. I'm sure it's not lost on your people as well. We appreciate all the hard work you do. It's been an absolute honor you being here with us tonight. You're always welcome. Open invitation fair. Anytime you want to come on, you're you're good to go.

01:20:24.34
Bear_ of the Internet
Thank you, Keith. And buddy, thanks for the invite, bro.

01:20:25.95
Buddy
Definitely.

01:20:27.10
Bear_ of the Internet
And yeah, well.

01:20:27.32
Buddy
Yeah, definitely. Yeah, it's been an honor