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254 Preppers Pantry - The Enigmatic, Never Static, Often Dogmatic Preppers Favorite Daydream

• TOPS_POD • Season 5 • Episode 254

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Buddy
Yeah, I got to do something because this is ridiculous. But it is what it is.

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Keith
Is what it is. you guys refused to tell me what the topic is for tonight. So here we are coming on. I'm, I'm bored. I don't know what I'm supposed to be doing. The the listeners are going, what the fuck? I mean, the you know what I'm saying?

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Jeremy
We're talking about them.

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Buddy
Right now we're talking about how economical Starlink is. and how how

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Jeremy
Yeah.

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Keith
Starlink is good.

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Jeremy
That and my trash ass internet just keeps going out.

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Keith
You know?

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Jeremy
Anyway, no, we are talking about the prepper pantry and we are talking about supply chain indicators that are going on in 2026. That's what we're talking about.

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Keith
Hmm. Nice. Nice. So go ahead and throw some ah whipped cream and cherries on top of that. Cause that sounds, that sounds ultra, ultra like it yeah what was when what what's the word I'm looking for?

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Jeremy
Hmm.

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Keith
Cleansed. Is that the word I'm looking for?

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Jeremy
cleansed yeah

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Keith
It's, it's so, it was like a, it's like a doctor just said it, you know i'm saying?

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Jeremy
you know cleansed is what uh buddy is supposed to have gone and done already but he won't go to the doctor so you did it in a box nice i don't think that's the same thing buddy i definitely think you need to go get your butthole checked

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Buddy
ah I did it in a box, man.

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Keith
Hmm.

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Buddy
ah

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Keith
Hmm. Hmm.

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Buddy
Yeah, you can just do it right in the box and mail it back to them. it It's awesome. ah You know, if they if they find it, something, then yeah, we'll go.

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Keith
So what about the goings on around the ah the country?

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Buddy
go

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Keith
right There's some kind of ah of a stomach virus or something going around or people are like exploding poop out their buttholes.

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Jeremy
Oh man.

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Buddy
Yeah.

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Jeremy
So yeah, you go ahead.

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Buddy
So, oh, man, I just –

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Jeremy
I'll just tell you who has it.

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Buddy
Yeah, I'm not going to say any names here, but I know a guy who traveled recently.

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Jeremy
yeah

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Buddy
i don't nott even say where he went. Yeah, it wasn't me.

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Keith
You traveled recently.

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Buddy
this This one wasn't me, but I did get something last last few days.

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Keith
Okay. Okay. Sure. Go ahead.

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Buddy
But the this guy traveled to the East Coast and picked something up on the way back, and he said his guts are just not the same. He goes, don't know what I picked up, and then I sent him a link to You know, that virus that's going around.

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Buddy
He goes, I don't know if that's it, but he goes, my guts, it's like they're not right.

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Keith
It's really bad, man.

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Buddy
Yeah.

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Keith
It's really bad. It's it's bad

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Jeremy
So when I came off that last cruise, I think I told you guys I was,

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Keith
Yeah, please don't tell that story again.

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Jeremy
Right. But I picked up what I believe most likely, ah was a parasite or Hanta virus, not the other one where you're coughing up your guts, but I was, um, blowing them out anyway.

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Keith
Well, there was a just a couple days ago in the news, somebody said there was a there was another ship that had a bunch of people on it with like really discuss like explosive diarrhea, everybody, it like the whole ship.

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Jeremy
Um,

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Jeremy
So a lot of times when these kinds of outbreaks happen, they can they can't necessarily like zero in on the like the no kidding causation of it.

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Jeremy
But a lot of it, what we what I know for from over the years of just, you know how like you these outbreaks happen and they're like, well, don't buy the lettuce from this particular store from this date to this date.

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Keith
Right.

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Jeremy
A lot of times, honestly, and some of these, let's just say Walmart versus Piggly Wiggly. Okay. So Piggly Wiggly is usually out in, you know, the the urban areas and or rural areas, I should say.

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Keith
I was about to say, is that like a, what what what is, what is a Piggly Wiggly?

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Jeremy
ah a Piggly Wiggly.

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Buddy
You don't know what to, and you're from Jersey?

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Jeremy
You don't know what a Piggly Wiggly is?

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Keith
Yes. What is that? and never heard of a Piggly Wiggly.

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Jeremy
It is a it's a grocery store chain that is very, very small, not just in size, but like their overall numbers. You see them mostly like like, we had them over when I was, yeah, small town grocery store.

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Keith
Oh.

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Keith
Like in small towns? Okay, gotcha.

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Jeremy
Anywho, a lot of those smaller grocery chains will buy directly from a producer, right? So the Walmart buys en masse from many different producers. And the issue is, is that people, when they buy these vegetables from a grocery store and they take it home and they immediately start doing whatever, they don't wash their theirre grocery, their vegetables, right?

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Jeremy
And whatever, sometimes whatever was ah in the dirt, on the dirt or whatever, the person handling it, you know, it got bagged and it got sent and you just consumed whatever was on there. So that's what's causing some of these issues. Now, I had what I had.

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Jeremy
Missy was just recently on a trip with one of our grandsons and in that side. And um while she was down in Disney, it hit her and it hit her hard. And it's still...

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Buddy
Oh, God. god

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Jeremy
yeah, it's still hitting her hard. And, um, I'm not even going to go into details, but I'll just say, um it was unpleasant for her and it's still, you know, unpleasant and that's happening.

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Keith
please don't

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Jeremy
Like, uh, like, Oh, absolutely.

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Keith
I'm sure she wants to tell you you want she wants you to tell her whole life story here.

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Jeremy
Absolutely. Um, but, ah it was pretty bad from what I understand. and I will just say that when it hit me from that vessel, um and i and I had mentioned this before, there was only one other person that responded that they had eaten at the same place on the same day and had something similar to what I ate. But I didn't have any vegetable material that day.

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Jeremy
So there's no telling.

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Keith
I wonder what the protocol is on a ship, on a vessel coming into any port. I wonder what the protocol is for you quarantine. Like at what point do they have to quarantine and not let people on or off?

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Keith
You know, like, like, is it 10 people sick?

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Jeremy
Oh, man.

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Keith
Is it 20? Is a hundred? Like what, what's the number, you know, there's probably some, there's probably some kind of a protocol for that.

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Jeremy
I don't know. I mean, I'll just say this and I'm sure there is, but like,

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Buddy
Yeah, they they have a chief surgeon that that is there and and a medical staff on each ship and stuff that they'll make the call. But don't know.

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Jeremy
Yeah. And it's weird because, um you know, they have crisis actors and and I always love talking about conspiracies, but when that whole thing was happening with these different ships out there and they were like, yeah, we can't dock you don't remember the guy that they interviewed.

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Jeremy
Like that's that one guy that kept showing on like CNN and MSNBC and all that. Um,

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Buddy
He just happens to show up every time in the last 10 years.

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Jeremy
happens he was He was literally the same guy wearing the same shirt from a couple years ago when pandemic COVID was taking place.

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Buddy
think

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Jeremy
And he's like, yeah, we're on lockdown because of this. And I'm like, hold up. That's the same dude. That is literally the same dude. And it just so happens he's wearing the same damn shirt.

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Jeremy
Like, what the hell?

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Buddy
ah Obviously, doesn't pay good because he's still wearing the same damn clothes.

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Jeremy
No. No.

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Buddy
so

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Jeremy
Yeah. Yeah.

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Buddy
You might want to find a new gig.

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Jeremy
But yeah, so lesson learned is, is even if it says pre-washed, wash your veggies, not with soap and water, but like wash your, wash your, wash the stuff that you get and wash your hands.

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Keith
smith

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Jeremy
You know, remember that stuff when you were a kid and they said, Hey, every time you use the bathroom, no matter what, make sure you wash your hands.

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Keith
Oh, it's prerequisite around here. it's It's law.

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Jeremy
oh

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Keith
It's written into the law because everything outside of this house is yeah is chicken shit.

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Jeremy
Mm-hmm. Filthy.

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Keith
It's filthy.

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Jeremy
Ugh. Ugh.

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Keith
You know, there's chickens and there's there's bugs and there's everything's out there. So every single time you walk back into the house, you've got to wash your hands. It's protocol.

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Jeremy
Yeah.

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Keith
This is what we have to do.

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Jeremy
Yeah. Yeah. I, I, I've been told I actually washed my hands too much, but I'm like, okay, cool. I'll just keep washing my hands too much. I don't care.

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Keith
I actually remind Rhonda, sometimes she gets irritated, but she'll she'll be like cooking or something. She's like, oh, I got to go check something. She'll run out and then she'll come back in. I'm like, wash your hands. Yeah.

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Jeremy
Mm hmm. Mm hmm. Yeah. Yeah. I wash my hands even while I'm cooking. Like if I, if I handle meat um and I am going to touch something else, I wash my hands along with the utensils I was just using to cut that meat.

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Buddy
Well, do you wash your do you watch the meat?

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Jeremy
Like I don't.

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Keith
Yeah.

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Buddy
Like say you had a roast and you're going to cook a roast. Do you wash that off like chicken breast or anything?

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Jeremy
No, no,

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Buddy
you wash it before you cook it?

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Jeremy
Now, if it if it's if it's something that I butchered, the only thing that I'm really making sure is that there's not like hair or any like random piece of epithelial tissue or something like that. but I don't wash the meat because everything that you just washed is going down your drain and we have a septic. So all of that is going down into our septic.

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Jeremy
So, um, I don't want, and especially chicken, like if I buy chicken from the store, cause we don't have chickens yet. So if I buy chicken from the store, I'm not washing it. Um,

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Buddy
Really?

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Keith
We wash all of our chicken.

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Buddy
watched all of it. Yeah.

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Jeremy
really?

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Keith
Yeah.

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Jeremy
Okay.

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Keith
Yeah.

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Buddy
yeah

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Jeremy
Well, I mean,

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Keith
The only thing I don't wash is like prepackaged sausages or like of like steaks. If they look really good, I probably won't rinse. If it's like, you know, get real bloody, I might throw it through the water the cold water real fast, but that's it.

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Jeremy
Yeah. Now I'm also selective, and this is what confuses me about some people. And this is, this is for, and I assume this is just an assumption that everybody that listens to us is well versed on this, but I will watch other people grab, like say for instance, they're buying chicken and they just grab any willy nilly packaging.

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Jeremy
of chicken. And I'm like, Hey, that chicken package looks like an inflated balloon.

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Keith
Yeah.

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Jeremy
You may not want to pick that particular one.

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Buddy
Oh, God.

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Jeremy
And the reason being is the long, especially chicken, any kind of foul, the longer it sits and it starts to expel gas as it goes bad, you can tell what is bad because you'll see that packaging, And I'll look at the packaging thoroughly before I pick any kind of package of chicken.

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Jeremy
You know, that's, that's for me personally, that's one thing I definitely do. So.

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Buddy
I learned that from a bad MRE.

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Jeremy
well

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Keith
Thank you.

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Buddy
it was It was swollen. i was like, oh it's not that swollen.

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Jeremy
Yes, it is.

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Buddy
ah Yeah.

00:11:02.58
Jeremy
It's always that bad.

00:11:03.48
Buddy
Oh, no. Yeah, it was, yeah.

00:11:05.27
Jeremy
And that kind of.

00:11:07.76
Buddy
Falls right along the line. fires if It actually falls along the same lines of what we've been talking about. It was a bad couple of days.

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Jeremy
Yeah. I mean,

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Keith
Well, those MREs are, they're they're sealed inside of a factory that's actually boiling and cooking the the food in the package in the actual, and then it's and then it's sealed instantly.

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Jeremy
Yeah.

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Keith
So you would think that it's a pretty good seal and it shouldn't be bad.

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Jeremy
You'd be surprised because it's not necessarily because the ceiling is always going to be good. It's that what, when it goes into the packaging itself, whatever is in there is in there.

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Keith
Hmm.

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Jeremy
Now I can remember many, many moons ago when we used to eat the Brown, we called them Brown bag Emory's. It was a Brown packaging and I had a chicken and rice and I could swear that that chicken and rice was moving.

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Jeremy
And I was like, i'm not eating it. And I, to this day, I do not eat chicken and rice MRIs. As a matter of fact, until they get done with their investigation into the current supply of MREs, I will not touch another MRE.

00:12:08.25
Jeremy
I will not. It is, man, I knew they were bad.

00:12:10.81
Keith
well they're Well, you get them because you you know you're on mission. You're doing all kinds of contracts and stuff. So you're you know you're eating them.

00:12:16.62
Jeremy
Yep.

00:12:17.65
Keith
And same with you, buddy. You're on bases and different things doing training. But I don't have MREs, and I won't buy MREs. Now, i but love I love them because it's a really cool thing. You cook them right there in a package. You get to eat it and all that. But, A, they're not that good. But for most mostly, they're just expensive.

00:12:35.00
Jeremy
Yeah.

00:12:35.02
Keith
They're really expensive. You guys get them for free. The regular public doesn't.

00:12:39.64
Jeremy
No.

00:12:39.90
Keith
They're expensive, man.

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Jeremy
Yeah. My, ah my kids used to think they were really cool. And one of my sons, when he joined, he's like, I, I can't believe I used to think these things were cool. I'm like, no, they're,

00:12:49.56
Keith
i think that I think they're awesome. They're really cool.

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Jeremy
Yeah. When I was a kid, now this goes way back from when my mom, you know, my mom was in for 20 years and she retired in 90 and she was part of the Vietnam conflict. And she used to bring us home old school. And I mean, old school MREs and T-Rats.

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Buddy
We had a fruitcake.

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Jeremy
fruit, it was a dehydrated fruitcake.

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Buddy
Everyone had Oh my god.

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Jeremy
Like they had a dehydrated beef patty. Like you had to bite off a chunk of it and like put some water in your mouth and it would, remember those little capsule things where it had a dinosaur and know you put it in the water and it would swell up.

00:13:15.61
Buddy
Oh, yeah.

00:13:20.34
Keith
ah

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Jeremy
That was, that's what it was like to eat the be dehydrated beef patty. It was horrific, but we used to think they were most awesome things ever.

00:13:32.89
Buddy
Yeah.

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Jeremy
You know, they never told you that you could use the cracker as a weapon, but that thing is lethal.

00:13:38.82
Buddy
A Chinese Thorncracker, MRE andmari greg

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Jeremy
Yeah. It's a damn throwing star of unleavened bread. But, um,

00:13:46.26
Keith
Well, i'm I'm canning today, ah one of the days that that i'm of this week. And actually canning right now as we speak. I'm looking at my phone. i actually have a timer.

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Jeremy
Hmm.

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Keith
On my phone, it says two minutes and 20 seconds left until... I have to run upstairs and and turn it off. Anyway, I'm canning from the from the garden.

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Keith
so today I'm doing ah sauces. So I'm doing tomato sauces. Now, I wanted to get like, i don't know, six ah jars on today from from the harvest.

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Jeremy
Mm-hmm.

00:14:19.11
Keith
But I didn't realize that Rhonda's been using the tomatoes like absolute crazy. So I i went and got it all started and everything and i ended up with just three.

00:14:24.10
Jeremy
Mm-hmm.

00:14:27.07
Keith
So now I've got three. But I mean, it's three. You know, and right now they are in ah in a bath. and they're boiling. So, and this sauce came out real good. I put garden vegetables in all stuff from the garden, everything, onions and peppers, everything came out of the garden.

00:14:37.34
Jeremy
Nice.

00:14:39.96
Jeremy
Nice.

00:14:43.16
Jeremy
Nice. Very nice.

00:14:44.12
Keith
Yep. Only, I mean, when I say a hundred percent from the garden, obviously i don't have a salt mine here. so ah you know, I have to buy salt like everybody else.

00:14:52.99
Jeremy
Yeah.

00:14:54.14
Keith
ah But yeah, for the most part, everything, you know, all the spices and stuff, the oregano part, all that stuff we grew dried, you know, and it's there. So that's all boiling right now. And it boils in the, in the jar. It's called canning, but it's a jar. And it it actually boils in the jar while the cup, while the tops are on under the water.

00:15:12.67
Jeremy
Yeah.

00:15:13.11
Keith
And it's cooking and boiling and it's killing if there's anything in there. Because allt remember, this sauce was already cooked in a pot.

00:15:20.45
Jeremy
Yep.

00:15:20.41
Keith
I cooked it all up. Then I put it in the jars. Then I put it in the bath for another 45 minutes. And then that'll kill anything in there if there's anything in there.

00:15:28.80
Jeremy
Yep.

00:15:28.86
Keith
And it'll seal it instantly in time like it stops in time. And they're good for at least a year on the shelf, at least.

00:15:35.77
Jeremy
Yeah. Yeah. um I know last year and we actually still have some left. I made some salsa a few bit days back, but um one of the practices that I've gotten into is anytime we get like, you know, a good amount of tomatoes, um I'll make sure they're washed, dry them off real nice.

00:15:53.82
Jeremy
Take the green off if it still has stemming and then I will freeze those. I'll shrink, i I'll ah vacuum seal them.

00:15:59.47
Keith
I've heard about that.

00:16:00.46
Jeremy
Yeah, I'll vacuum seal them.

00:16:00.47
Keith
So if does it, does it work?

00:16:02.36
Jeremy
Oh, absolutely. So I vacuum seal them and then just everything as it was is locked in, right? So when you open it back up and they start to thaw out, the skin just comes right off.

00:16:15.78
Jeremy
You don't have to blanch them. You don't have to do anything extra.

00:16:18.94
Keith
Interesting.

00:16:20.47
Jeremy
Yeah. So by thawing them out, it's, it's almost like a cold blanching.

00:16:22.52
Keith
Very interesting.

00:16:25.46
Jeremy
So I just take off the skins and drop them right in the blender, tossed in a couple of jalapenos, a few of the lemon drop peppers, you know, cause they're coming in pretty good now.

00:16:25.59
Keith
Yeah.

00:16:35.14
Jeremy
um

00:16:35.27
Buddy
Oh,

00:16:36.54
Jeremy
little bit of a, a little bit of onion and a couple other things, topped it off with a chicken bouillon and blended it up and it made a real nice salsa. So yeah.

00:16:46.20
Keith
And then now normally you would can that, do you your water bath can or you just can for refrigerator canning?

00:16:51.90
Jeremy
ah No, we do. We've done the water bath canning. I'm, I'm, I'm still learning like for like where we're at. And I did not realize that I had to do some more reading. I didn't realize that altitude affects your canning.

00:17:07.83
Jeremy
um Like the making sure that like I have to inspect all of our jars and our lids and our, you know, our seals and all those things. And like, I remember I, what was it that I did?

00:17:20.96
Jeremy
i did it. I was doing this last year, i is was doing some canning and I pulled them out and I set them down and I was waiting for the pop for the, you know, the, the lid to, you know, I i could hear it and it didn't happen.

00:17:29.98
Keith
Mm-hmm. Yep.

00:17:32.28
Jeremy
So I was like, what the heck? So I went in and I kind of touched one and then it popped and I was like, wait a minute, did I assist that or did it do it on its mouth?

00:17:40.15
Keith
No, no, no. it It just takes time when it's cooling off is when they pop.

00:17:43.35
Jeremy
Yeah. So i got worried and I kind of put them.

00:17:47.80
Keith
yeah keep going Keep going. I'm going to run upstairs where I grab these jars and come back. Keep going.

00:17:51.86
Jeremy
Yeah. So I got worried about the actual, you know, quality. And so I redid them. I put them back in and let them do go some, some more. But when I, when they, when i when they came out and they did finally pop, I was absolutely terrified as to whether or not they were, like they were sealed properly. So, um, yeah.

00:18:14.04
Jeremy
But you know canning and doing all of the preservation of food for long-term storage really does go into ah you know what we're going to be talking about. And i think that the preservation of food and you know all the things that you're doing is, you know along with prepping in general, it is a hedge against the economy and whatever else is happening out there.

00:18:41.05
Jeremy
So we talk about, you know, the supply chain, which is already fragile and the things that are going on around our country and around the world. And by having your own food, not just to go out to the garden and pluck it and eat it, which we do, but to set it aside for another day, that is, that is hedging yourself against um the rest of the world. And having that stuff in your, your, your pantry as a prepper or a person who lives the prepared lifestyle is it's a necessity, you know, cause lot of people, when an emergency happens, they think about how hungry they are.

00:19:19.26
Jeremy
Like their kids are saying, I'm hungry, I'm hungry, I'm hungry. One of the things I didn't talk about enough is I'm thirsty, I'm thirsty, I'm thirsty, but that's kind of, I guess for most people in their mind, it's a given.

00:19:29.69
Jeremy
but they they don't think about the combination of things that you have to have. So um the prepper pantry, the best way to you know kind of define it, it's it's a stockpile, basically.

00:19:42.89
Jeremy
It's a long-lasting food, water, and essential household supplies that you stockpile for yourself, your family, in the case of an emergency.

00:19:53.50
Jeremy
but we

00:19:54.13
Keith
All right, I'm back.

00:19:55.32
Jeremy
So we as preppers, we already do that. And... um So the things that, you know, like right now, Keith is, is, is canning and a lot of people, they think canning, they think of an actual can.

00:20:10.20
Jeremy
Well, what he's referring to is he's using Mason jars or, you know, like jars that can be, that have the food stuff in them. And then you're using heat to seal that stuff in there and kill any bacteria.

00:20:24.25
Jeremy
You can do the same thing with dry goods in a mason jar and you get, it's a vacuum sealer that goes over the top of the actual, um, the seal and it sucks all the air out of that jar with your dry goods inside.

00:20:39.19
Keith
We have one. Get on Amazon. Very inexpensive.

00:20:41.66
Jeremy
Very inexpensive. And if you wanted to further the the moisture control, if you are worried about that, you can get a dry pack, which is your, you know, your desiccadent packets, and you know, those kinds of things to absorb any latent moisture that may be left behind.

00:20:57.02
Keith
Yeah, what's really cool about those things, is let's say you let's say you vacuum seal some nuts in a quart-sized wide mouth jar, okay?

00:20:57.46
Jeremy
So.

00:21:04.86
Keith
and you put this little you know plastic-y sort of thing over it and turn it on, and it sucks all the air out and seals the the jar.

00:21:04.98
Jeremy
Mm-hmm.

00:21:13.21
Keith
So you put it on your shelf. There you go. And when you open it and you you know eat some, let's say you eat some of the stuff inside, you want to seal it again. All you do is close back up, put the thing on back there, hit the button, and 15 seconds later, it's sealed again. Throw it back on the shelf.

00:21:25.66
Jeremy
Yeah. Yeah. And even with like you doing your sauces, um I have seen people where like, say they have a jar that they're going to use, right? They're only use half the jar.

00:21:37.98
Jeremy
and um they will put it in the fridge before they do so they take that thing and then remove any air all it does is just Air, and oxygen specifically, oxygen is the enemy of fresh food. It doesn't make any sense when you say it like that, but anytime you remove vegetable matter or food material from its natural state and expose it to the air, it's our automatically already going into decomposition.

00:22:09.50
Jeremy
So the more it's exposed to air, oxygen, and you know if you have it in the fridge, the cold, And for certain things in the dark, it's an eye, like it's rapid, it's fast, it's already happening. That's why you can't leave raw meat out overnight. That's why you can't do certain things like that. But if you've got something in the fridge and you want it to last just a little bit longer, you can remove the air from that jar and put it in the fridge and it will, it will keep a little bit longer.

00:22:39.42
Jeremy
So.

00:22:40.50
Keith
Good stuff.

00:22:41.18
Jeremy
Yeah. Yeah. So again, storing your own food, doing your own canning, you know, preservation of food, these are all hedges against whatever else is happening in the world.

00:22:55.10
Jeremy
And you can always tell the state of the world by the price on the grocery store and the price at the pump. Like that's a, it's an immediate felt um implication of what's happening in the rest of the world.

00:23:08.60
Keith
Yeah, and another thing about the the whole canning thing is you can go, look, you can go to a grocery store, just any old grocery store, go to the produce aisle, get a whole bunch of produce, meats, whatever you want.

00:23:19.14
Keith
You can cook up some meals and you can can them and ah water bath them and pressure water bath them if you if you're doing meats and things like that, which is a whole other type of water bathing.

00:23:27.52
Jeremy
Yeah. Yep.

00:23:29.56
Keith
and put them on the shelf. You're good to go. But here's the thing. You're still getting the GMO type stuff and all that because you don't have your own garden, this and But if you, and so my thing is this,

00:23:37.30
Jeremy
yeah

00:23:43.67
Keith
You can just go to like a a farmer's market and get really great produce and do that same type of canning if you don't have a gardener or anything like that. You can do that. But if you're going to actually buy stuff from the grocery store to any old grocery store and you're going to try and can it, I suggest you just go to the to the canned food aisle and just get some sauce right on the shelf and stick it on your shelf.

00:24:03.90
Keith
Because basically it's the same stuff.

00:24:04.01
Jeremy
Yeah. Yeah.

00:24:05.93
Keith
It's got all the same stuff in it. Same preservatives, all that junk that's in there. And it is calories. And it's cheap. You can get very cheap tomato sauce and and pasta, very, very inexpensive.

00:24:18.94
Keith
You could probably go in there with 20 bucks and come out with a ah load of stuff and just stick it on your shelf and you're good to go for a year for pasta.

00:24:25.40
Jeremy
yeah

00:24:25.88
Keith
And you know all you need is a jar of sauce and and a thing of pasta, some water, and you're good to go.

00:24:31.03
Jeremy
Yeah. And if and and I always tell this to people because I ever since I started with you guys on this podcast, people ask me, ah you know, random questions. And one of the things that I've been asked before is about actual like cans, like cans of food.

00:24:47.30
Jeremy
Say you buy a can of corn, for instance. I always suggest that you buy food that your family will actually eat, not food that they're going to be like, dude, this is the 14th can of pinto beans.

00:24:58.71
Jeremy
Like I'm done with canned pinto beans. like who Like you got to be able to buy food that your family will eat. And if you're buying cans, there's two things that you got to remember.

00:25:07.64
Buddy
Well,

00:25:11.96
Jeremy
First in, last out. So you have to rotate and if you're say, for instance, you like I'm going to my five cans of corn, but I've got say like an extra you know X amount of dollars. I'm gonna go ahead and buy a couple of extra cans.

00:25:29.24
Jeremy
And as I'm going through that rotation, the ones that I put in first, first in for I'm sorry, first in first out, not first in last out. That's a Pathfinder saying, but first in first out is yeah.

00:25:40.93
Keith
FIFO. I was thinking five filo. No, I think it's FIFO.

00:25:43.19
Jeremy
No, it's, yeah, it's, it's first in first out. So you put that can in and that first can in is the first one that you're going to use and you keep track of that. That's how you keep your stuff stocked. But the second thing about cans is it may say freshness until, or use by date for cans, the rigidity that it takes to go into the can and be inspected and be approved by the USDA is pretty extreme.

00:26:11.16
Jeremy
that freshness date by is kind of loose. It's not necessarily a hard date. The biggest thing you can do is look at the can itself. And it was kind of like with Buddy talking about that swollen MRE.

00:26:27.07
Jeremy
Cans that have gone bad, um cans that have any issues on the inside, they'll wish they'll start to swell. They'll start to get kind of this weird bump on top.

00:26:37.50
Jeremy
And we if you see that, immediately get rid of it. So.

00:26:40.93
Buddy
Well, you know, something I learned that every can there is a law that they have to have a Best Buy date on it. And a lot of those dates of those cans Or because that's it's the food will actually outlast the can.

00:27:01.62
Buddy
As long as there's not a breach into the can, they put that that Best Buy date on there because that's when the can will start to break down like the earliest date.

00:27:03.93
Jeremy
Right.

00:27:12.89
Buddy
So going beyond that, as long as you expect the can, and there's not, you know, sometimes dense. um you know, if there's not a breach in the can, it'll still be good. And it's kind like your medications, your medications go way beyond what they have to have something on there.

00:27:28.89
Jeremy
Yeah.

00:27:28.98
Buddy
So I'm not telling you, you can go five years on a can of corn, but it.

00:27:34.18
Jeremy
I've eaten a can of, I've eaten a can of food that was two years after the Freshman Estate and it was perfectly fine.

00:27:39.93
Buddy
Yeah, so it's mainly the vessel it's in. And if you really paid and I heard this and I was like, huh, okay.

00:27:43.23
Jeremy
Mm-hmm.

00:27:47.09
Buddy
And so I went looked and looked, and the guy also said, you know those cans that have the, I don't know what you'd call it, little tab on there that you can pull it out compared to using a can opener?

00:27:56.61
Jeremy
Yeah.

00:27:59.22
Buddy
The ones that easy opens, yeah, the pop tops, they last less ah time than what the same can of the same product that's you know sealed that you can use a regular can opener.

00:27:59.54
Keith
Yeah, they easy opened up. Yeah.

00:28:05.07
Jeremy
Yep.

00:28:12.89
Keith
Yeah, because they're they're they're slightly compromised. that When they put that that indentation in there, that that pop top, that's slightly compromised. It's a very thin section of a can.

00:28:22.34
Jeremy
Yep. Yeah. like I noticed um we use a lot of Rotel when we cook. um It's a cheap, easy way to throw in some a little bit of spice and a little bit of veggie.

00:28:31.44
Buddy
Oh, I love that stuff. That's good.

00:28:34.86
Jeremy
um But they started offering those in the pop top ah cans and I was immediately suspicious.

00:28:35.03
Buddy
Yep.

00:28:42.61
Jeremy
And I'm like, we're not buying those. We'll just stick with, let's stick with cans. And here's another thing and people don't think about. um And I don't know why people don't think about this, but buy a damn normal hand used can opener.

00:28:57.75
Jeremy
Stop buying electric can openers.

00:28:59.74
Buddy
yeah

00:29:00.38
Jeremy
if If the power goes out, I don't know if you've ever tried to use a spoon to open a can, but it sucks. Like it can be done. Like you can open up a can by smashing it on the ground, but it sucks.

00:29:13.75
Jeremy
So buy a couple of cheap, you know, can openers, man. Have that, like have that ready.

00:29:17.78
Buddy
Yeah, there was a ah mad scramble for the I carry i carry one of my camping gear and, you know, and I was going to talk about it later, but we we lost our electricity for quite a good amount of time this weekend because of a storm. And so, yeah, I had to go dig that thing out, you know.

00:29:41.23
Jeremy
Dude, I still got a P38.

00:29:43.16
Buddy
Yeah.

00:29:43.48
Jeremy
I still have P38 can opener and I've got a can opener on all my Gerbers. Like like yeah buy a couple of can openers.

00:29:47.80
Buddy
Yeah.

00:29:51.26
Jeremy
They're, they're inexpensive.

00:29:52.98
Buddy
You can go to the dollar store and get them for a dollar and literally a dollar.

00:29:55.35
Jeremy
Yeah. Just, just make sure that the ones that you can hand crank yourself, that's, that's what you need. That's you don't need, you don't need electric can openers.

00:30:01.66
Buddy
Yeah.

00:30:04.38
Buddy
But I got a couple of them my camping gear bug out bag. B30A is perfect for it.

00:30:08.37
Jeremy
Yeah, absolutely.

00:30:09.42
Buddy
Go to any that you can buy them by, you know, the thousands at a,

00:30:14.29
Jeremy
Yeah.

00:30:14.97
Buddy
Usually the surplus stores have them in a you know box or a can.

00:30:18.35
Jeremy
Yeah.

00:30:21.30
Buddy
but About every damn ah surplus store I've ever been in has an ammo can full of them. And they probably have, you know, a half a truck in the back or Connex box full of them.

00:30:32.15
Jeremy
And for our listeners who don't know what we're talking about, a P 38 was, it's a can opener and it's a small little handheld thing.

00:30:32.19
Buddy
mean, it's just,

00:30:41.31
Jeremy
I'd say it's the, the original ones are about the size of a book a match or a match, a matchbook. Um, and, um, it had the, yeah, we would wear it around dog tags or whatever.

00:30:50.52
Buddy
We used to wear em around our neck on our dog tags.

00:30:54.34
Jeremy
And the little can opener part would just flip down. And you would dig into the can and just open your can. um You can Google it, see what it looks like. And I'll be like, oh yeah, I've heard of that.

00:31:04.89
Jeremy
So I would just tell you, those are also good to have in your, in your stuff. So, but yeah. So the prepper pantry, you know,

00:31:14.81
Keith
I just had to look it up because I was trying to figure out what is a P38. Yeah, I've got several of those. i didn't know that's that's what it was called. They're kind of hard to use, though. They're not terribly easy.

00:31:24.09
Jeremy
Yeah, if you've never used them, you know, it's kind of like that 10% rule, you know, like 10% smarter than the equipment.

00:31:26.98
Keith
You have to get used to it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

00:31:32.92
Buddy
Thank you.

00:31:33.11
Jeremy
But we used to use them all the time, you know, especially when I very first came in. That was in 94. um I can remember using that in the field a lot, you know, because some of the stuff that we would get, like we have cooks, but really what what are they doing? They were just bringing stuff out that was – basically an industrial size and mrre cooking it for us. I'm like, Ooh, cool. Hot chow.

00:31:56.02
Jeremy
I'm like, why are the eggs green? Like, why is that a thing? That doesn't make any sense. But yeah, we used to carry P38s with this all the time.

00:32:03.51
Buddy
Yeah, I think I went my I saw my last one I finally and I don't know where it is now, but I used it the last time in 2010.

00:32:03.74
Jeremy
Um,

00:32:12.18
Buddy
So I need to definitely get some more of them

00:32:12.86
Jeremy
Yeah. yeah It would have been nice to have that when I was in Helene. that would have, uh, that would have been good, but I will say that the hotel, cause you know, the hotel had the, and I think I told you guys about the restaurant where we were, we were trying to get everything cleaned out of the freezers and fridges before it turned into a stinky mess.

00:32:18.19
Buddy
Yeah.

00:32:29.70
Jeremy
But, um, they did have, you know, the big, like, cause it's a restaurant. So they had big cans, you know, those big, what are they called? Number 10 cans or something like that.

00:32:37.08
Buddy
Number 10 cans, yeah.

00:32:38.87
Jeremy
Yeah. Like different vegetables and beans and stuff. So we, set all that stuff aside and we were trying to consume like the stuff that was going to go bad first. Um, But the the prepper pantry itself, it's just like ah it's a generic phrase. It's the food, it's the water, it's your stuff, it's your supplies. And if we're talking about the food part, a couple things that you need to when you're when you're looking at what am I going to store, like just for the food. um You got to think about proteins, your carbohydrates, nutrients overall.

00:33:15.35
Jeremy
um your fats and of course water, not just water to drink, water for preparation and water for cleaning. So like that FEMA rule of a gallon of water per day per person, that's very, very loose. Like in reality, you should kept be calculating two to three gallons realistically per person per day.

00:33:39.06
Jeremy
Cause got to drink the water, right? But you also have to cook and then you have to you have to clean up afterwards because if it's hard enough to keep your stuff clean now, imagine if something really were truly, but you know, gonna happen. Like buddy, you were talking about your power being out for how long was it? It was a week you said.

00:34:03.64
Jeremy
And buddy's gone.

00:34:04.88
Keith
He's got his mute on.

00:34:06.78
Jeremy
ah

00:34:07.59
Keith
Buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy. There

00:34:10.41
Jeremy
Buddy, turn him you turn your mic on, homie. He did it.

00:34:14.07
Keith
is.

00:34:14.54
Jeremy
You've got to do the sound bit for him. But so I think he was saying that his power was out for like a week or so.

00:34:16.25
Keith
i

00:34:22.97
Jeremy
I mean, imagine, was a buddy, are you back?

00:34:27.00
Buddy
Yeah, back.

00:34:28.09
Jeremy
Terrible.

00:34:28.41
Buddy
no No, I didn't have a week. i had, a it was about 30 hours. It felt like a week. but

00:34:33.75
Jeremy
Okay. 30 hours.

00:34:35.00
Buddy
But the the thing the thing was, is it was hot out. I mean we're talking, it was in 96. Like, today it's 100.

00:34:41.70
Jeremy
Yeah.

00:34:43.70
Buddy
um So, you know, it started getting a little little sketchy. and And, course, you know, we're all lulled into that, you know, easy lifestyle that we all love, you know, where we have AC, where we get more when it's cold out, we can go inside and get warm when, you know, get cool when it's hot.

00:34:55.43
Jeremy
Mm-hmm.

00:35:03.93
Buddy
Uh, wow. You know, when you take that away, it makes you start to think and it pressure tested a lot of, lot of the stuff that, um, you know, i'll call myself a prepper, but it pressure tested and, and I wrote up a little AR at the end cause I'm a nerd like that. And, uh,

00:35:19.99
Jeremy
You are a nerd.

00:35:21.08
Buddy
and reflected it yeah and reflected on it and it's like wow man i you know i hate to even admit some of this shit you know it's kind of like you're not taking a radio with you or whatever to helene or but you know what i mean um there there was you know i had power you know we can i could go and and talk about that later but um we're talking about something else

00:35:27.64
Jeremy
Yeah. Yeah.

00:35:33.34
Jeremy
Damn, that's that that that hits hard. Yeah.

00:35:44.82
Keith
I'll talk about it now.

00:35:45.98
Jeremy
yeah

00:35:46.94
Buddy
Okay, well, do are we done with prepper pantry thing? I got a few things to talk talk about that.

00:35:51.06
Jeremy
No, but I think that all of that is kind of combined because I was just talking about water, you know, that is part of your prepper pantry.

00:35:51.16
Keith
Yeah.

00:35:58.18
Jeremy
And part of that is not just for drinking, but for cooking and cleaning afterwards.

00:36:03.54
Buddy
Yeah, and um you have to you have to have enough to not only drink, you know, they say at least a gallon a day. Sometimes some people need, you know, depending on how much you weigh, If it's hotter out or you're you're more active, you need maybe up to two gallons a day.

00:36:17.73
Buddy
And then you start thinking, okay, well, you got to wash your hands. You got to wash your, you know, your body. You don't have to do it every day, but you got to periodically do it.

00:36:27.83
Buddy
And then you have to cook with water.

00:36:28.11
Jeremy
Yeah. Mm-hmm.

00:36:29.95
Buddy
So, you know, what's the magic number? I hear two gallons a day, five gallons a day per person. You know, what is it? Uh, females need to be cleaner, uh, more often than males do just because of ah the chemistry and their body makeup and stuff.

00:36:42.30
Jeremy
yeah

00:36:46.26
Buddy
Um, so, you know what is that magic number? But I I'll have to tell you, man, uh, that, that phrase getting caught with your pants down. Wow. You know, um, I got caught and luckily it, it wasn't as the storm hit, it was a wind event. It was basically what it was. Uh, we got 90 mile an hour winds.

00:37:06.64
Buddy
Um, and it blew telephone poles down. we We didn't have electricity for about 30 It was more of an inconvenience than anything else, but wow, you know, after about, i don't know, eight hours, we decided to get the generator out because it wasn't going to come right back on.

00:37:27.13
Buddy
And that's when the power company starts to you know, start giving you their assessments and stuff. and they're like, Oh, this is Sunday night. They're like, Oh, this, we will probably won't see electricity in your area till Tuesday, Tuesday night.

00:37:41.02
Jeremy
Yeah.

00:37:41.20
Buddy
and we're like, Oh shit. Which a lot of times they'll give us a longer, they'll make, give us a worst case scenario things. And it always gets turned on sooner. That's pretty much what I've, what I get out of the whole thing, just with experience, but man did it.

00:37:50.87
Jeremy
yeah

00:37:56.36
Buddy
It was just a big inconvenience thing. Um, So we're running a ah gas generator. Well, I go to start filling up the tank of the gas, you know, get it set up and start, we start running things. We kept tripping breakers.

00:38:09.91
Buddy
ah You know, there was a a little, don't know, we'll call it a disagree we'll call a disagreement on what should be turned on and what should not, you know, do we really need the wifi or would you, would we'd rather have, you know, the AC, um you know,

00:38:28.18
Buddy
Are you going, do you need the upstairs lights and everything on, or is it, you know, and there was just so a difference in opinions on what we really needed because the generator wasn't going to, you know, it wasn't a generax or anything like that. It's kind of, which I'm looking into to to run the whole house, you know,

00:38:49.52
Buddy
there's this, a lot of people think, Oh, I can just, you know, get a two 20 outlet and plug it into my generator. And, you know, bam, I got the whole house. Well, if you got the big enough generator, yeah, sure. But then do you have the fuel?

00:39:03.54
Buddy
I have been taken. i usually have about 30 gallons of fuel, um, sitting around in cans. And so I've been mowing, I've been in the, well like, you were you talking about the prepper pantry where you, You go in and and you, you know, last, ah first in, last out, or yeah, first in, last, first in, yeah, first up.

00:39:24.09
Jeremy
First in first out. Hmm.

00:39:26.45
Buddy
So I was rotating my um gasoline that I got in like March. And so I've been using it in the lawnmowers and doing, you know, because that's about the only way I can use it. So the other day I was like, man, I'll just go ahead and and take the rest of it and fill my truck up.

00:39:44.57
Buddy
I filled my truck up, had all these empty cans, and then all of a sudden the storm came through. and ah ah I had like a half, I had about two and a half gallons out of 30.

00:39:56.50
Buddy
So lesson learned there, right, dumbass. So

00:40:01.34
Keith
Is that regular gas or diesel?

00:40:03.61
Buddy
regular gas, just regular gas.

00:40:04.50
Keith
Okay.

00:40:05.37
Buddy
um

00:40:06.07
Jeremy
Now, let me ask you this when you're running your, your, for your generator, any of your small engines, what are are you using? Just like regular unleaded. Cause I know what I, I only use ethanol free and any small engine.

00:40:20.02
Buddy
Yeah, yeah, it's the premium stuff. And it tells you not to use like E85 or whatever. So we have to use ethanol free.

00:40:27.96
Jeremy
Hmm.

00:40:27.99
Buddy
um You know, and it's cleaner and it burns cleaner. You don't have the exhaust problems, you know, where you got to go in and clean the exhaust and stuff.

00:40:37.98
Jeremy
Yeah.

00:40:38.01
Buddy
And, you know, i luckily I read the manual on this to find out what to use.

00:40:38.16
Jeremy
Yeah.

00:40:44.72
Buddy
And because, you know, a lot of people just go out and buy the cheapest gas, you know. Well, it doesn't last as long. and it might not be what you need for your machine. so but yeah So, yeah, I failed miserably on the gasoline storage, but they're all full now, I'll tell you that.

00:41:04.86
Buddy
We did...

00:41:05.82
Jeremy
What kind of, what kind of what, like when the storm passed and it was done, what kind of temperatures were you guys having?

00:41:12.98
Buddy
Well, luckily it cooled off because it was kind of... We were supposed to get the storm the next night, and they really didn't say it was going to...

00:41:18.32
Jeremy
Mm-hmm.

00:41:20.60
Buddy
Weird thing about Western Oklahoma and and Texas Panhandle, storms will pop up out there.

00:41:25.57
Jeremy
Mm.

00:41:27.31
Buddy
So usually they start hitting, coming out of New Mexico or, yeah, usually coming out to Mexico or Kansas, and they get out to Western Oklahoma.

00:41:39.16
Buddy
It's very dry out there, and they just explode. I mean, you can see a little pencil mark cloud, you know, in Western Oklahoma, and then by the time it starts to move east, And it generally always moves east or from the northwest to the southeast.

00:41:42.65
Jeremy
yeah

00:41:56.31
Buddy
and ah And it just builds and builds and builds. I just remember watching this and I was like, oh, we are screwed. And just by, I've i've taken a couple of weather schools, you know, just amateur stuff and was watching it And I was like, this is going to be bad.

00:42:10.52
Buddy
This is really going to be bad.

00:42:12.38
Jeremy
Yeah, i can I can remember living out in El Paso, you know, and in South Texas, but more more in the desert.

00:42:12.60
Buddy
um Oh, yeah.

00:42:18.59
Jeremy
You know, you're the wind the the weather patterns generally in our country travel from west east. Um, but the, the, the storms that would begin in California and then push over and it hits New Mexico and it's picking up speed and then it would collide with the mountains right there in El Paso. So you got this Western west to east wind and it's already moving fast, but it would hit the mountain and come up and over. And when it's coming down the other side, man, it hauling ass and the storms, it was always the wind.

00:42:56.02
Jeremy
then the dust, and then it would start to rain. It would actually rain mud because all that dust that was in the air is mixed in with the clouds and it's literally raining torrential like mud storms.

00:43:09.40
Jeremy
And then it would clear out. It would be nice for a couple hours and then turn into desert heat again. It was horrible.

00:43:16.82
Buddy
Yeah, this this thing popped up, you know, it went from a little bit of rain. All of a sudden, the wind's kind of picked up to about 40 miles an hour. And so I'm sitting on this back porch just watching it.

00:43:28.06
Buddy
And then I thought, you know, maybe I need to get, because there's a pool out there, maybe I need to get some of the pool stuff out. So I started grabbing all the pool stuff, stuff that would be launched. And next thing I know, a coat rack hits me in the head.

00:43:43.16
Buddy
hey I would kind of ring my bell and i was like, what the heck?

00:43:45.85
Jeremy
what the

00:43:47.74
Buddy
it just, well, it's on the porch and in we hang up wet clothes, you know, uh, wet towels and stuff from the pool.

00:43:47.90
Jeremy
Where did a coat rack come from?

00:43:55.83
Buddy
And so the next thing I know is like, okay.

00:43:56.17
Jeremy
Oh,

00:43:59.03
Buddy
Uh,

00:43:59.16
Jeremy
I mean, I mean, I'm um like, I get it. It's Oklahoma. You know, there's, there's some trailers, there's some trailers out there, but like, where did a coat rack come into play?

00:44:02.63
Buddy
Hey, it was a neighbor's coat rack, you know Yeah. Yeah.

00:44:08.40
Jeremy
Yeah.

00:44:08.92
Buddy
So, you know, I get my bell ring by the coat rack and then, um, I, it started just pouring and possibly it, I don't know if it was hailing or not, but there was hail in the forecast. So I better go for cover. So um I walked underneath the porch for cover and one of the pool umbrellas, the sunshade umbrellas that has a base, it wasn't tightened into the base.

00:44:35.38
Buddy
So instead of, you know, flopping it over, if it was tightened in, because the base is like, I don't know, 30, 40 pounds. It picked it up, launched it, I don't know, 30 feet into

00:44:45.89
Keith
At the steel base.

00:44:48.28
Buddy
Well, the steel base, it pulled it out of the steel base, right? Pulled the the umbrella. It shot like Mary Poppins.

00:44:53.21
Keith
So it flew it up like Mary Poppins.

00:44:55.96
Buddy
It opened it up and then it sent it into a and I thought it was a concrete planter that's by the pool. You know, you put plants in it and stuff, but it was a plastic one, was very thick plastic, very thick.

00:45:08.08
Keith
Oh, yeah. Rubbermaid or something.

00:45:10.94
Buddy
Yeah, very thick. And it shot it about 12 inches into that And that's where I was just standing.

00:45:16.66
Keith
Whoa. oneo

00:45:18.90
Buddy
So i was like, oh, shit, you know, somebody's looking out for me. But I just remember pulling it out going, okay, is this the end? Is this the end? Is this the end? But ah I was listening to to cracks of trees.

00:45:33.11
Buddy
There was limbs coming down. there were In in ah another part of Oklahoma City, way south of me, southwest of me, or southeast of me,

00:45:44.60
Buddy
There was hundred year old trees that were, you know, you can't even reach around them that were uprooted. There was like, it was just crazy. I don't know how many thousands of people lost power, but they have it all up now. So, you know, within three days. So I will give props to, you know, all the linemen out there. got a like I got a ah family full of linemen and, uh,

00:46:11.86
Buddy
they've They've been working their ass off in this heat. and It's 100 degrees out, like I said, today. And working working hard out there, getting it going again and and making it happen, man. So last thing I had saw last night before i went to bed was 400. There was only 400 people that were out of power.

00:46:29.85
Buddy
So they're making it happen. so

00:46:33.45
Jeremy
That's pretty crazy. That's yeah. But now imagine with that kind of heat afterwards in such a dry environment and trying to consume enough water to, you know, stay, stay active and do the things you need to do.

00:46:36.89
Buddy
But, you know, one the things

00:46:50.33
Jeremy
Um, but not having, not having the, the, the, the coolness to go to, you know, like, it,

00:46:57.14
Buddy
Oh, yeah. Yeah. And the house never for we had the the night we got power. We got power like two thirty in the morning.

00:47:06.36
Jeremy
Mm-hmm.

00:47:08.34
Buddy
You know, we just heard something and I thought we thought the generator went down was like shit. OK, because usually goes, you know, you fill it up before you go to bed and about two thirty three. You know, soon as you get into great sleep time, it usually goes off. Right.

00:47:21.94
Buddy
So I went out to go put water in the our water, gasoline back in generator, but it was generators running. And i was like, I still have a sleep going, what's going on here? I look over to the shop, which is on a separate grid and somebody left the shop light on. So i was like, wait a minute, we got power.

00:47:41.81
Buddy
We got power. And so, but in even last night, it was still struggling to get to and It never got under 75, setting at 68.

00:47:55.28
Buddy
So, you know, it took it and we talked to other people.

00:47:56.34
Keith
Thank

00:47:59.17
Buddy
and it took a while to cool the whole thing down. And like you're saying,

00:48:03.35
Keith
Well, that's the thing about it. I was in HVAC for a long time, and I can tell you right now, if you have a hothouse, and let's say you're let's say you're one of these people that don't want to use their AC, and you turn it off during the day when you're at work, and then you come home and your and your house is 85, that machine is going to run for hours trying to get it back down to temperature.

00:48:26.42
Keith
Because the but you have to understand how, i'm not going to go into the in depth on how it works, but you're going you're looking at a, ah you're looking at 85 degree hot, wet air going into your vent.

00:48:26.79
Buddy
Yeah.

00:48:40.60
Keith
Okay. And the only thing going to be coming out on a normal system running properly with, ah with ah a very good filter and everything is going good, which most people don't have dirty filters. you're looking at 13 to 16 degrees below coming out. so if got going in you have to coming out.

00:49:02.74
Keith
that seventy two is going into eighty five degree air think about it

00:49:08.79
Buddy
Yeah. it

00:49:10.57
Keith
72 coming out of your vent does not mean you're going to be feeling 72 right away. That 72 hits that 85-degree air, and it goes right back up again. it takes it So it comes down it comes down you know degree by degree by degree very, very slowly. The worst thing you can do for your electricity bill and for your system, like the actual longevity of your system, especially if you own it you're not renting, is is leave your AC on. It doesn't have to be high. We have we do 69 when we're sleeping. We do 72 during the daytime.

00:49:44.59
Keith
That's it, a three-degree difference. Because if I put that thing up to 75, 76, it's going to take hours of running that machine to get it back down to 69 sleep.

00:49:55.06
Buddy
Yeah, that's a great point because people, they just, you know, come home from work and and crank it down. i'm i used I'm guilty of it, you know.

00:50:01.88
Keith
lots Lots of people do. And it's it's really bad for the system. And it's it's bad for your ah for your electric bill. You're going to feel it in the electric bill.

00:50:10.04
Jeremy
Yeah. Yeah. When we, we, we actually have kept ours and it's not common for Missy to, to allow this, but we have kept ours at 72 this year.

00:50:22.86
Jeremy
Normally we try to stay andre around like 76 and um we ended up getting, we had to get new system. i i want to say it was done two years ago. We had to get a whole new AC system.

00:50:36.50
Jeremy
And we've we've kept it this year at 72. I like the cold. Missy likes to fry in the sun like a lizard. So she's constantly complaining about how cold it is in the house. And I'm sweating wearing a tank top because I'm a short fat man. But um yeah, it will definitely play havoc, especially on your compressor. Like if your compressor is constantly trying to like...

00:51:00.98
Jeremy
like make that change and then key, you know, it's, it's racing to try to make the change that compressor is going to go out super fast. Yeah.

00:51:10.04
Buddy
Yeah, it it was definitely – I mean, I really don't think it's it's normal, back to normal yet, but, you know, we're we're playing that, you know, game.

00:51:21.27
Keith
Yeah, plus well plus it's fighting the 100-degree air that's outside right now.

00:51:21.58
Buddy
or Yeah, and it I noticed even at 75 is what it's set at now, that it's – the time it goes off, you know, when a thermostat hits, 75, it's still – man, it's the time –

00:51:24.47
Jeremy
Yeah.

00:51:39.38
Buddy
between you know it should come on like once an hour or whatever i don't i don't know

00:51:43.51
Keith
Do you have any kind of a thermometer that, I don't know, like I've got several different types of thermometers for the AC work, but do you have any kind of a thermometer that can take a quick reading?

00:51:54.17
Buddy
we were actually looking for that to see last night now i i was digging through stuff looking for a thermometer i i don't have one anymore

00:52:00.98
Keith
Sometimes even a little laser ones, so they're not totally accurate, but even the laser ones sometimes are pretty good. But get your, get it's called Delta T. Okay, Delta t is is the is the difference between the air going into your register and the air coming out of a register.

00:52:18.20
Keith
So your in your your intake, your where your air is going into the, that's not really called a register, but where it's going into the machine, you take that temperature and then you go and you take the temperature of of the register where the air is coming out colder or hotter if it's the wintertime.

00:52:18.60
Buddy
Okay.

00:52:35.65
Keith
And in the summer, a very good delta T is where you're looking at 13 to 16 degrees. Some people, some HVAC techs will go up to like 18. They'll push it.

00:52:47.42
Keith
And ah you can if you want to, but I just think it's too much wear on a machine. Anywhere between like, some people go 10 to 15. They say it's okay, but I don't like 10. It's too low. 13 is where I like to stay at the lowest point.

00:53:00.86
Keith
If your machine is coming out 13 degrees less or up to 15, you're doing good. it's running It's running properly. If it's not, if you're only getting like a five-degree difference, but going in 80 and it's coming out 75, you need to start checking something. to check that that AC filter because that's going to – If you, so if you ah choke your, your machine out, it can't do its job properly.

00:53:23.86
Keith
So if you've got a dirty filter, it, you will not cool the way you think it's going to cool. You're all you're doing is the machine. The machine needs to be circulating air in order to change the temperature.

00:53:36.25
Keith
That's the way the machine works.

00:53:38.07
Buddy
Yeah, that's a good point.

00:53:38.74
Keith
If the air is not going in, it doesn't work properly.

00:53:44.22
Buddy
Yeah, it's ah as far as.

00:53:49.92
Buddy
They, you know, when you get start getting into the 100 degree temperatures and stuff and you start looking at it's not only just, you know, I bitched about it. Oh, I'm so hot. I'm tired of it. You know, it's 90 degrees out. But, you know,

00:54:05.52
Buddy
I'm fairly young. Well, you know, over 50, but it becomes with the elderly.

00:54:11.29
Keith
Yeah, you're old.

00:54:12.34
Buddy
Yeah. Okay.

00:54:13.34
Jeremy
ah

00:54:13.85
Buddy
but Really old people that it becomes a you know, a healthy, really concerned with them, you know, in New York, a lot of people um they're not used to it.

00:54:15.24
Jeremy
Ha, ha, ha.

00:54:25.14
Buddy
and this is something me and the girlfriend was talking about

00:54:26.46
Keith
Oh, no. du I grew up in New York, New Jersey area. We didn't have a central a AC. Nobody had central AC.

00:54:31.61
Buddy
in the nineties, people, you know, any, When when when so people get into the 90s up in the northeast side, north coast, northeast coast up there, it's bad.

00:54:42.22
Keith
It's bad.

00:54:43.52
Buddy
I mean, people start dying and stuff. And I i kind of giggled.

00:54:45.50
Jeremy
Yeah.

00:54:46.86
Buddy
was like, what people are dying? I mean, come on. But they're not used to it.

00:54:49.14
Jeremy
Well, when as you get older as you get older, especially with the heat, um it becomes more difficult for your body to self-regulate body temperature.

00:55:00.22
Jeremy
So, I mean, as you get older and like, for instance, my mom, she's 76 and we were in the Grand Canyon.

00:55:00.31
Buddy
Oh, yeah.

00:55:12.05
Jeremy
I'm sweating like a fool. And I'm like, aren't you hot? She's like, no, I mean, it's warm, but you know, and I looked and I was like, mom, you're not sweating. We need to get inside. and And she's like, no, I feel fine.

00:55:23.56
Jeremy
I'm like, no, that's not good. You're the human body is supposed to sweat as a natural defense against the heat. So that way when a breeze hits it, it cools you off naturally. i was like, and I, and I learned as, as you age, know,

00:55:37.75
Jeremy
you, your body's ability to regulate its own temperature and fight that kind of starts to dwindle away and it can be very, very dangerous for older people with extreme heat and extreme cold.

00:55:49.82
Jeremy
So, yeah.

00:55:51.77
Buddy
Yeah, um it's it's a thing. And and i I've been a heat casually several times in my life. I mean, from the time I was a kid, i wrestled and and we'd put on plastic suits and run around in a sauna and and ride a bike and stuff.

00:55:59.59
Jeremy
Mm-hmm.

00:56:06.62
Buddy
And I'd pass out. I passed out catching, you know, military. I've been heat casually and stuff. So I have to what When other people can take you know water and drink it, it's not it doesn't do the same for me.

00:56:20.05
Buddy
I have to lecture you know a lot of drink a lot of electrolytes.

00:56:24.12
Keith
How old are you? 55.

00:56:26.20
Buddy
55 or 54.

00:56:26.73
Keith
fidgeve Okay. So you're technically a senior.

00:56:29.50
Buddy
Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:56:30.36
Keith
Yeah. I mean, 65 is technically a senior citizen, but 50, 50.

00:56:33.62
Jeremy
you've been I know you've been getting stuff from AARP.

00:56:34.36
Keith
fifty

00:56:35.90
Buddy
I don't have my AARP card or anything.

00:56:35.96
Keith
fifty

00:56:37.78
Buddy
Come on.

00:56:37.78
Keith
Well, you should, because 50 is AARP. Okay. That's, that's official. And 55 is where most like, you know, senior discounts, restaurants and things like that.

00:56:47.06
Buddy
Oh, wait a minute.

00:56:47.86
Keith
So yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah.

00:56:49.49
Jeremy
Don't tell me you haven't been getting that mail.

00:56:49.61
Buddy
Wait minute.

00:56:49.78
Keith
finished Oh yeah.

00:56:50.14
Buddy
That changes everything.

00:56:51.25
Keith
Yeah.

00:56:51.77
Jeremy
I know you've been getting that mail.

00:56:51.82
Buddy
Discount?

00:56:53.25
Jeremy
miss Missy's been getting that mail.

00:56:53.30
Keith
ah

00:56:54.81
Buddy
Yes.

00:56:54.89
Jeremy
I get that mail.

00:56:56.06
Buddy
I got the mail years ago, and it would piss me off, and I'd throw it away. Yeah.

00:57:00.44
Keith
and and i And I'm not in acid to buzz your chops, but I'm 57, and i'm I'm out in the heat most of the time all day.

00:57:05.02
Buddy
Yeah.

00:57:08.78
Keith
and i spent the entire day yesterday outside working on that damn lawnmower all day long. And I i built a ah tent over the top of it with you know using...

00:57:20.09
Keith
ah just different types of ma material. I had an old pop-up thing that was busted. I tried to put that thing together. I i slapped it to a a tree, with lashed it to a tree with with ah rope and all kinds of stuff and threw a tarp over the top of it, blue tarp and everything. But I know when it's time to come inside.

00:57:39.24
Buddy
yeah.

00:57:39.34
Jeremy
Yeah.

00:57:41.30
Keith
I have a drink with me, cold drink, and got a bench. I can sit down. I got take breaks and things like that. But I know at one point I can go, you know what? I need a drink. I'm not going to drink this. I'm going to go in the house, get the AC. I'm going to drink. And I have in my freezer, I've got – They're made for headaches, but they're these gel things you put on. They're like skull caps, like the way you wear in the wintertime. But they're made of gel, and they're like instant freeze your heads.

00:58:07.96
Keith
And it's really great if you've got a a bad migraine or a bad headache. It's it's just like it's it's amazing. Well, I throw one of those on, sit down at the kitchen table, pull out my phone, get got myself a drink, sit under a fan right there, and I like play on my phone for 10 minutes. And in 10, 15 minutes, I'm cold.

00:58:25.81
Keith
I'm ready to go back out into the heat, but i I have to self do that.

00:58:25.91
Buddy
Yeah.

00:58:29.85
Keith
I have to push myself to do it, to remember to do that. So otherwise I'll overheat out there.

00:58:35.48
Buddy
Yeah, and I think people, they get lulled into, you know, self, you know, what they call it?

00:58:43.74
Keith
People that are in their 30s, if you're listening right now, are thinking think that we're joking. Because when you're in your 30s, your 20s, your 30s, you're doing it all day. you're in this Some people are landscapers and they're in the sun all day long. I was. When I was ah when i was ah early teens, 17, 18, 19, even 15 and 16, I was working landscape crews. And you're out there all day long.

00:59:06.17
Keith
just in the you know you don't You don't even have AC in the trucks back in the day where I was you know going. Yeah. So, but, but when you're, yeah it's tough, man.

00:59:11.51
Buddy
Yeah, that that's why I quit.

00:59:11.64
Jeremy
Yeah.

00:59:13.34
Buddy
I quit my landscaping company. i was like, quit my own company.

00:59:16.11
Keith
It sucks.

00:59:16.70
Buddy
I was like, this sucks. okay I can't do it anymore.

00:59:20.09
Keith
It does.

00:59:20.44
Buddy
I just, I physically couldn't do it anymore. And, and you know, the family's begging me to quit, you know?

00:59:22.49
Keith
Right. Right. So when you're, when you're 50, when you're 50, 55, you gotta be careful. You're not 25, 30 anymore. So you made the good call. You know, did you get any money for it?

00:59:34.56
Keith
There you go.

00:59:35.38
Buddy
Yeah, i got a little bit, but, you know, I...

00:59:36.99
Keith
Okay. You sold it.

00:59:38.26
Buddy
Yeah, so, I mean, you know, is I didn't get millions of dollars or anything, but it was more I walked away from a lot of stuff. And I probably could have spent what I made on a case of beer, you know.

00:59:46.33
Keith
you spent it You spent it in the weekend.

00:59:52.63
Jeremy
Nice. Excellent.

00:59:54.04
Buddy
but ah But, you know, what i was saying earlier, if people get lulled into this, you know, false sense of security with the electricity. You know, it was kind of a humbling event for me in a wake-up call that, you know, hey,

01:00:08.50
Buddy
I didn't have this and it was the worst time ever. You know, we're, we're looking at, we knew we were getting hundred degree temperatures this week because watching the forecast, you know, I'm a, I try to stay informed about the weather and and around 30 is what it was.

01:00:15.99
Keith
Right, right.

01:00:20.09
Keith
So you were at 36 hours?

01:00:24.33
Keith
Around 30?

01:00:24.92
Buddy
And, and, you

01:00:25.26
Keith
your fridge stayed cold, your freezer stayed cold.

01:00:28.82
Buddy
as long as we didn't and we didn't go into it.

01:00:30.65
Keith
Go into it.

01:00:32.56
Buddy
So we have ah a huge chest freezer. I don't even know the size of this, but it's huge. And that's where a lot of, you know, we'll butcher cows and and put the deers in it.

01:00:40.11
Keith
Oh, dude, you find my ass in there about three or four times a day. I'll just jump in the thing, close the door behind me.

01:00:45.75
Buddy
But, you know, what I was getting at earlier is we had to make a choice on, okay, there's there's two freezers and there's two refrigerators.

01:00:45.83
Jeremy
Yeah.

01:00:55.83
Buddy
Okay, so we can't do it all. Dan Burke Harris, the AC so let's you know let's turn the AC on at night with the generator and sleep cold, so we had to strategically plan through it.

01:01:10.33
Buddy
Dan Burke Harris, Throughout the day. Burke Harris, To make it work and then so you know.

01:01:14.33
Keith
Right, right. and this was it you're at This is a house. You're at your your girlfriend's house

01:01:20.76
Buddy
Yeah. Yeah.

01:01:21.30
Keith
yes you had that

01:01:21.45
Buddy
And my house, so my house is set up differently than hers.

01:01:21.53
Jeremy
Yeah.

01:01:24.98
Buddy
Uh, kind of the same. I got a generator, I got all that stuff, but I was just having to be there for the weekend because of the holiday. And, uh, it's, it's kind of strange because I'm starting to set up two households, uh, for, you know, um,

01:01:42.26
Buddy
Basically, that'll be on my bug out site. And so making it the transition between, you know, storing freeze dried food and and extra stuff and my prepper stuff.

01:01:47.22
Keith
Yeah. Yeah.

01:01:51.61
Buddy
You know, and I got two households now that I'm doing that. So it makes it kind of tricky. um And paying attention to, you know, you know, your your pepper, your prepper pantry. You know, of of water, you know, I got plenty of water here, but I need it over there. i don't have to take is that we went through four cases of water over that weekend because I i went to Costco and got four cases of, you know, 20 ounce bottles of water.

01:02:21.18
Buddy
um But at my house, I don't have that problem because I store differently. So it's ah it was a you know lesson learned thing. i learned from a few things. you know Got my cup my pants down a little bit with the gasoline. Was able to cook.

01:02:38.49
Buddy
At her house, she has propane. So that was on. uh, so we could cook. Uh, I, I busted out the Coleman stove and, and started cooking up. She was, Hey, we got propane.

01:02:50.30
Buddy
It'll it's works. And I was like, Oh, okay.

01:02:53.22
Keith
That's cool. Yeah.

01:02:54.24
Jeremy
Mm-hmm.

01:02:54.20
Buddy
So, but you know, sometimes you'll have to, yeah, you'll have to choose, um, of what you're, what you need for survival.

01:02:56.12
Keith
Barbecue.

01:03:03.12
Buddy
And you just gotta, you know, you know, we say this a lot. You need to think through the problem and, uh, try to find a nice solution. But, um,

01:03:11.70
Keith
How does your AC attach to your generator?

01:03:16.47
Buddy
So at both houses, we we did a 220. Luckily, I know enough electricians that are friends that you can buy them a case of beer and they'll put in a 220 plug for you. And then they put it underneath the box and they, I don't know electricity at all. I know enough to stay the hell away from it.

01:03:34.58
Buddy
um But you can plug in the 220 plug from the generator and it's into the electric system. So you got to turn the whole system off. plug in your 220 that's fed from the generator.

01:03:48.73
Buddy
And, you know, it'll push, depending on the size of the house, my house, it'll push the whole house except for um the AC with the generator I have at my house. Now her house, she has a ah same size generator and a bigger house. So it's hard to run the whole thing. We were tripping breakers a lot too. So it took us long a little bit of time to figure out, hey, you can't run the garbage disposal, you know, because that it it pulls too much.

01:04:20.52
Buddy
The microwave pulls a lot of energy. So.

01:04:22.97
Keith
Yeah, and it's the startup. It's the startup ah peak. It's the peak that that kills it, not the running time.

01:04:28.28
Buddy
Yeah, so.

01:04:28.60
Jeremy
and Amperage versus wattage.

01:04:30.74
Buddy
Yeah, so we we learned we will learn a lot about, you know, what you can use at one time, you know, and now we're thinking, okay, let's sell this generator, give it to one one of her kids for their houses, um and maybe look at a Generac or maybe get a bigger one because, you know, she wants to run the whole house, you know, on it all.

01:04:42.87
Keith
Yeah.

01:04:52.39
Buddy
And it's a great goal, but...

01:04:52.50
Keith
but Look, yeah there's never going to be a shortage of bad storms in Oklahoma. when people When you say Oklahoma, most people think tornadoes, bad storms, right off the bat.

01:04:57.36
Buddy
No, and...

01:05:02.95
Jeremy
Meth.

01:05:02.93
Buddy
Dude, I meet people from all over and they're like, oh, Oklahoma, man, how do you like that?

01:05:05.40
Jeremy
lot of

01:05:07.21
Buddy
you know, you see the tornado? I was like, yeah, about three or four a year. mean

01:05:11.93
Keith
Texas is hot. you know ah Oklahoma's got the tornadoes.

01:05:13.50
Buddy
Yeah.

01:05:15.59
Keith
Seattle's got the rain. I mean, you just think of these places like that, you know.

01:05:19.19
Buddy
But the cool thing, the battle grills.

01:05:20.41
Jeremy
When I think of Oklahoma, go ahead.

01:05:22.41
Buddy
Yeah, go. No, go ahead.

01:05:23.54
Jeremy
What I was going to say, when I think of Oklahoma, I think of crystal meth and a crack rock being thrown through the air by the wind. Like that's that's what...

01:05:33.63
Buddy
you're not far from the truth depending on what side of the state

01:05:34.58
Keith
there There are some places. There are some places in Oklahoma.

01:05:37.69
Jeremy
Lawton? Is that the name of the town?

01:05:39.58
Buddy
oh man i if we have any listeners in lawton i you know ah yeah uh leave now that that's i was just there but we were driving through there and decided to eat uh going on to one of the contracts and uh

01:05:40.13
Jeremy
Don't

01:05:40.69
Keith
Lawton.

01:05:43.43
Keith
We

01:05:44.86
Jeremy
do drugs.

01:05:47.59
Jeremy
Hmm.

01:05:54.79
Buddy
pulled, pulled in the lot and, and, uh, got down to, we, we saw, oh my God, I saw somebody walking down in, uh, the street, pushing a baby carriage full of stuff, obviously homeless person in a, like ah a pink tutu, uh, with blue hair.

01:06:10.90
Buddy
And it was a dude, um, and just, uh, you know, whatever.

01:06:13.37
Keith
um Don't judge.

01:06:15.38
Jeremy
We don't judge here.

01:06:17.24
Buddy
And, and obviously they were mentally disturbed and, and dancing and singing and stuff.

01:06:21.27
Keith
Obviously.

01:06:22.78
Buddy
And, uh, went to the middle of the road and I was like, Oh, somebody's going to get ran over. But you know, all you could say was, Oh, it's Lawton. You know, people would look and and then kind of shake their head and then, you know, look away because it's Lawton.

01:06:35.10
Buddy
Yeah.

01:06:35.22
Keith
Oh, you look, man, we we just came from, to get to here, we came, first of all, Wichita, okay, so that that should tell you something, and then Kansas City, which was just a like a bomb of ah retardedness just blew up.

01:06:35.53
Jeremy
Yeah.

01:06:35.50
Buddy
Yeah.

01:06:42.52
Buddy
Yeah.

01:06:49.25
Keith
You know, it's it's it's one of the worst, and now listen, the place we're at now, and even when we go downtown or even even farther, we don't there's no homeless.

01:06:50.01
Buddy
yeah

01:06:59.44
Keith
There's no homeless whatsoever. You don't see it.

01:07:01.14
Jeremy
Yeah.

01:07:01.24
Buddy
Can you imagine being homeless now though? I mean, just, you know, and as you're sitting there sweating your ass off in a leather chair, you know, in your, in your house and with a fan on you and you're trying to cool off, you know, you start thinking of stuff and ah and all I can think about is, man, I'm glad I'm not homeless because this one's really sucked.

01:07:06.74
Keith
Oh, the heat, you mean?

01:07:08.18
Jeremy
the ah That's a lot of moisture.

01:07:19.17
Jeremy
Yeah.

01:07:19.38
Keith
Right.

01:07:20.40
Buddy
But, you know, and we got in the conversation about that is how did our grandparents do it? You know, how did,

01:07:27.41
Jeremy
Mm-hmm.

01:07:27.38
Keith
they were set They were set up differently. And the important thing to remember about the old days were not the cold, but the heat. Okay. The the most important thing to remember is that the southern half of the United States was very much a nobody. It was empty.

01:07:43.21
Jeremy
Yeah.

01:07:43.22
Keith
It was, it was like, you know, very few people were in these little towns like Austin and Dallas and places like that.

01:07:43.38
Buddy
Yeah. Yeah.

01:07:51.02
Keith
Now, when the very first air conditionings went into play, the, you know, the very first ones of, of, uh, central air conditioning, I'm not sure what the date was Houston all of a sudden exploded.

01:08:02.84
Keith
And it was like one of the biggest, most populated cities in the country for a while. Believe it or not, because people wanted to go down oil. The oil was all down there. Everything was down there. But now you had C and you can survive the heat.

01:08:14.48
Jeremy
Yeah. Yeah.

01:08:16.78
Keith
That's when everything changed.

01:08:18.34
Jeremy
Yeah. Mm-mm-mm.

01:08:19.10
Buddy
Yeah, living in East Texas, same thing, man. You you could go out until about 1030 at this time of year. You can go out until about 1030, 11, and then you're just you have to physically go in and change clothes because it's soaked all the way through.

01:08:28.24
Keith
That's it. Yeah, that's it. Yeah.

01:08:31.90
Buddy
Yeah.

01:08:32.12
Keith
Oh, no, I know. last Last week I was changing clothes three times a day, just just working out on the tractor or out in the field, whatever it was.

01:08:35.70
Buddy
It's

01:08:38.32
Keith
up Three times a day I was coming in and getting clothes.

01:08:38.81
Buddy
crazy.

01:08:40.92
Keith
And, you know, and back then people also had those big houses. don't say big, but they had those houses with that that long, big, wide hallway right from the front door to the back door.

01:08:52.70
Keith
And the rooms went off of it. And that's generally how those older homes were built. And the reason why is because that's natural air conditioning. When that air would flow through there, it would suck the air from the rooms into it and out.

01:08:59.58
Buddy
Yeah, and swamp coolers.

01:08:59.66
Jeremy
Yeah.

01:09:04.44
Jeremy
Yeah.

01:09:04.54
Keith
And then you have these windows in the rooms that would suck the the air in. And that constant movement of air was basically ventilation. It was basically their form of air conditioning back in the day.

01:09:14.23
Jeremy
Yeah. And they would take sheets or thin material and soak it in water, then hang it up over the window.

01:09:17.80
Keith
Soak in water, yeah.

01:09:19.92
Jeremy
So that way,

01:09:20.70
Keith
Yep.

01:09:21.46
Jeremy
kind of like with an evaporative cooler, like we have, I have an evaporative cooler in my house in El Paso and the water flows over the filter itself and then the wind hits it, it cools it.

01:09:23.88
Keith
Yep.

01:09:31.26
Keith
Right.

01:09:33.78
Jeremy
So, but yeah.

01:09:34.68
Keith
It makes your house a little moist, but yeah, they, they do work. Yeah.

01:09:37.37
Jeremy
Yeah, well, my, my last one on this and you were talking about how much water, uh, you guys were consuming. we have a water cooler that we use, well, don't want say excessively, but we have the big, you know, the five gallon, uh, uh, bottles.

01:09:54.15
Keith
Yeah.

01:09:54.88
Jeremy
And right now with these temperatures, we're going through two of those a week.

01:09:54.90
Buddy
Yeah.

01:10:00.89
Jeremy
And right now talk about supply chain issues.

01:10:01.66
Keith
Wow.

01:10:04.45
Jeremy
um The Walmarts, all of the Walmarts around us are out too.

01:10:08.02
Keith
How, how many people are in your household? Cause we, we have the same thing. We have one, two water coolers, the pure one that you get from Walmart and we go through one five gallon every week.

01:10:20.09
Buddy
Well, are you cooking with it?

01:10:20.64
Jeremy
I'll give it one. and Okay. I'll go, I'll go one and a half.

01:10:24.15
Buddy
Are you cooking with it or is it cause

01:10:25.46
Jeremy
No, no, just nice cold water.

01:10:26.90
Keith
No, just just drinking.

01:10:27.54
Jeremy
And it's also hot. Like if you wanted to make, for instance, hot tea or whatever, it's got the hot.

01:10:29.21
Keith
Yeah, got a hot one too.

01:10:32.89
Buddy
so I got one at my house and it's got the hot and cold and stuff and, and having three people in, in the house, uh, we were going through about every two weeks, five gallons, but we would, we cook, um, we cooked with, you know, tap water, you know, cause when you boil water, you know, um,

01:10:33.05
Jeremy
But.

01:10:38.84
Jeremy
Yeah.

01:10:44.94
Jeremy
Holy crap.

01:10:51.67
Jeremy
Yeah. Yeah. But we, we do drink a lot of water. I have, I have purposed this year specifically because i felt like I was not, uh, drinking enough water, uh, especially after that incident, uh, one of my contracts, but, um, i I purpose to drink a lot of water, but I also purpose to take in a lot of electrolytes and salts now.

01:10:55.83
Buddy
Yeah.

01:11:12.82
Buddy
Yeah.

01:11:16.22
Buddy
Well, we had a gravity fed ah gravity fed filter system too that goes in the refrigerator.

01:11:16.28
Jeremy
So,

01:11:21.18
Keith
where Where do you get your water from? where do you get your five gallons from?

01:11:24.73
Jeremy
ah Typically Walmart, but all of the Walmarts around us are out. So going have to actually go up to Lowe's about 20-ish miles away just to get...

01:11:35.67
Keith
um How much does it cost?

01:11:37.41
Jeremy
It's the same price roughly. It's like maybe a few cents different, but we have six of them. We keep them in rotation. So if anything were to happen, we'd have 30 gallons, you know, available. And ours is the one that Missy wanted to one that, you know, fed from the bottom up. And I'm like, no, if it, if the power goes out, the water will still flow through and we can still have water from this thing.

01:12:01.08
Jeremy
I would like to get something kind of like a Berkey or something like that as well. But you know we we do it what we can with what we have, but we keep um six of those things in rotation at all times.

01:12:16.34
Keith
Well, we, we use the, the pure system, which, which I like, but you have to, initially you have to buy the five gallon it buy.

01:12:16.60
Buddy
Yeah.

01:12:22.58
Jeremy
Yeah.

01:12:22.86
Keith
yeah And I think it's like $19 for a five gallon and you own the the jug, but then you go back in and you do the refills at 50 cents ah a gallon.

01:12:27.64
Jeremy
Yeah.

01:12:30.70
Keith
So it's like, it's like $2 and 47 cents for up to fill up a five gallon.

01:12:30.90
Jeremy
Yeah. i

01:12:35.13
Jeremy
Yeah, I do the swaps. I do the swap thing where you come in, you drop off your empties, pick up some fools. I think it's like seven bucks um because I don't want to sit there and fill these things.

01:12:41.02
Keith
Oh, I gotcha.

01:12:45.01
Keith
It's pretty expensive.

01:12:45.79
Jeremy
Yeah, I don't want to fill. I don't want to sit there with six, you know, five gallon things.

01:12:48.95
Keith
Oh, no, no. I go in with three and it it takes me – I'm standing at the machine for 10 minutes holding the button while it's filling them up.

01:12:54.10
Jeremy
Yeah. Yeah. I'd rather.

01:12:56.15
Keith
yeah but it's But I'm spending $2.47 five-gallon.

01:12:59.70
Jeremy
Yeah.

01:13:00.35
Keith
It's pretty good.

01:13:01.24
Jeremy
Yeah.

01:13:01.30
Buddy
Yeah, it's only like, I think around here, it's like five, less than $5, right around $5 for the, you you take the the big bottle in and you just swap it out.

01:13:12.31
Jeremy
Yeah.

01:13:13.23
Buddy
You know, I used to go to the thing and we have, ah there they're out in parking lots of businesses.

01:13:14.10
Jeremy
yeah

01:13:20.10
Buddy
They have these little, you can get ice there, you can get water and stuff.

01:13:20.41
Keith
Oh, yeah. Yeah.

01:13:23.80
Keith
Water dispensers and ice. Yeah.

01:13:25.69
Buddy
Yeah, and it's cheaper, but damn it.

01:13:27.83
Keith
Did you guys see that one that one meme where or video where the you press the button and ice officers come sliding out

01:13:34.44
Buddy
I know, but that's awesome. oh That's awesome.

01:13:35.97
Keith
out? It's like's like $5 for ice and you put the $5 in and they come like a slide, like a kid slide. They come sliding out all geared up and everything with ice on their chest. Yeah,

01:13:48.12
Jeremy
Well, for you guys out there listening, you know, we, we always talk about food and water.

01:13:48.31
Keith
that's fun.

01:13:53.23
Jeremy
Um, some of the things you need to remember with food is sunshine and oxygen are your enemies for water, clear, uh, containers,

01:14:05.30
Jeremy
If you have clear containers and that's what you have, keep them away from the sunlight, keep them in a nice, cool, dark place. Same thing with your cans, same thing with any food that you have stored for emergency or whatever, keep it out of the sun and keep it sealed.

01:14:21.69
Jeremy
And that's ah one of the best ways that you, you can't, cause you always, you know, people go out there and they buy these emergency rations and they toss them in the attic or the garage and they're, they're going to they're going to go out rot.

01:14:32.54
Jeremy
It says up to 25 years if stored properly. You have to keep it and in a cool, dry place. That's the reason why they say that. So always keep that in mind.


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