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Yeah, I kind of get"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1210.92,"endTime":1213.35,"body":"like annoyed."},{"speaker":"Shandin Pete","startTime":1215.15,"endTime":1216.59,"body":"These are all non"},{"speaker":"Shandin Pete","startTime":1215.15,"endTime":1216.59,"body":"native books."},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1216.8,"endTime":1219.98,"body":"Yeah. I mean,"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1216.8,"endTime":1219.98,"body":"there's a lady, but she's very"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1219.98,"endTime":1224.0,"body":"much and no disrespect to her."},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1219.98,"endTime":1224.0,"body":"But she's very much BLM, you"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1224.0,"endTime":1227.45,"body":"know? Yeah. Yeah. A lot of"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1224.0,"endTime":1227.45,"body":"patting on the back, like, hey,"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1227.45,"endTime":1230.18,"body":"you know, we can do this. We're"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1227.45,"endTime":1230.18,"body":"doing it. This is what we're"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1230.18,"endTime":1234.35,"body":"doing blah, blah, blah. Yeah."},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1230.18,"endTime":1234.35,"body":"And so I'm kind of getting"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1234.35,"endTime":1241.64,"body":"annoyed. Good. I finally there's"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1234.35,"endTime":1241.64,"body":"a little button on on the mic."},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1241.64,"endTime":1248.63,"body":"So I pressed the button. And I'm"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1241.64,"endTime":1248.63,"body":"rude at this point. I didn't"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1248.63,"endTime":1251.78,"body":"wait for the person to quit"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1248.63,"endTime":1251.78,"body":"talking. I just pressed it. And"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1251.78,"endTime":1255.5,"body":"I said, Yeah, I said, I want to"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1251.78,"endTime":1255.5,"body":"say something. Yeah. And I"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1255.5,"endTime":1260.63,"body":"admit, I was a bit rude. I admit"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1255.5,"endTime":1260.63,"body":"that. But I also felt a sense of"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1260.63,"endTime":1265.67,"body":"like, a they asked me to be"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1260.63,"endTime":1265.67,"body":"here. Yeah, yeah. And so I just"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1265.7,"endTime":1275.51,"body":"freaking I went off, man. I ruin"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1265.7,"endTime":1275.51,"body":"the moment. I like went. And I"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1275.51,"endTime":1278.72,"body":"basically, like trashed"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1275.51,"endTime":1278.72,"body":"everything everybody was saying."},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1279.68,"endTime":1282.59,"body":"And I said, You know what? This"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1279.68,"endTime":1282.59,"body":"is like, ridiculous. Really,"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1282.59,"endTime":1286.73,"body":"when you think about it, I said,"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1282.59,"endTime":1286.73,"body":"this gentleman I pointed at this"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1286.73,"endTime":1291.17,"body":"guy said asked us asked about a"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1286.73,"endTime":1291.17,"body":"letter sending section 106"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1291.17,"endTime":1296.54,"body":"letters to tribes. He's asking"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1291.17,"endTime":1296.54,"body":"how to do that. Yeah. I just"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1296.54,"endTime":1301.82,"body":"spent an hour talking about a"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1296.54,"endTime":1301.82,"body":"fairly good detailed explanation"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1301.82,"endTime":1306.2,"body":"of tribal consultation. This"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1301.82,"endTime":1306.2,"body":"field manager doesn't know how"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1306.2,"endTime":1310.64,"body":"to send a letter. Yeah. And I"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1306.2,"endTime":1310.64,"body":"said, You guys aren't. You're"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1310.64,"endTime":1313.07,"body":"not even there yet. I wasted you"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1310.64,"endTime":1313.07,"body":"know, I wasted my time pretty"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1313.07,"endTime":1317.09,"body":"much is what I said. Yeah. So"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1313.07,"endTime":1317.09,"body":"I'm talking like, all this ideal"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1317.09,"endTime":1319.55,"body":"stuff. But the reality is, you"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1317.09,"endTime":1319.55,"body":"guys don't even know how to send"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1319.55,"endTime":1324.08,"body":"letters. And you're asking me"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1319.55,"endTime":1324.08,"body":"how you guys should send"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1324.08,"endTime":1326.63,"body":"letters. Have you ever just"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1324.08,"endTime":1326.63,"body":"called you the tribes you work"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1326.63,"endTime":1329.66,"body":"with? And say, how do you want"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1326.63,"endTime":1329.66,"body":"these PDFs paper? Do you want us"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1329.66,"endTime":1332.69,"body":"to call you do you want to carry"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1329.66,"endTime":1332.69,"body":"your pigeon to bring them to"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1332.69,"endTime":1340.07,"body":"you? And so then I just kind of"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1332.69,"endTime":1340.07,"body":"got frustrated. I said, there's"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1340.07,"endTime":1343.19,"body":"a lot of patting yourselves on"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1340.07,"endTime":1343.19,"body":"the back. There's a whole lot of"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1343.19,"endTime":1346.73,"body":"like, Look what we did. But you"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1343.19,"endTime":1346.73,"body":"guys aren't doing it. Yeah,"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1346.76,"endTime":1351.02,"body":"nothing's happening. It's just"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1346.76,"endTime":1351.02,"body":"do I do a DOI stuff? Yeah. And"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1351.02,"endTime":1354.56,"body":"then this guy said, I"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1351.02,"endTime":1354.56,"body":"respectfully disagree with you."},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1355.7,"endTime":1361.82,"body":"And then he he says, Our tribes"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1355.7,"endTime":1361.82,"body":"in Northern California says that"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1361.82,"endTime":1367.1,"body":"our tribes, so then he, he talks"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1361.82,"endTime":1367.1,"body":"about how they're like, their"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1367.1,"endTime":1370.76,"body":"successes in consultation,"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1367.1,"endTime":1370.76,"body":"right. Yeah. I'm thinking like I"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1370.76,"endTime":1374.72,"body":"said, Okay, well, with the"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1370.76,"endTime":1374.72,"body":"exception of Northern California"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1374.72,"endTime":1378.23,"body":"who's doing it right. Everybody"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1374.72,"endTime":1378.23,"body":"else is doing it wrong. I said,"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1378.23,"endTime":1381.77,"body":"I work with six different field"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1378.23,"endTime":1381.77,"body":"offices in three different"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1381.77,"endTime":1385.13,"body":"states, and that none of them"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1381.77,"endTime":1385.13,"body":"are doing it right. But Northern"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1385.13,"endTime":1391.22,"body":"California is doing it right."},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1385.13,"endTime":1391.22,"body":"And I said, or they, the tribes"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1391.22,"endTime":1394.52,"body":"you're working with don't know"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1391.22,"endTime":1394.52,"body":"the potential. They don't know"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1394.52,"endTime":1398.06,"body":"what they can get and how they"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1394.52,"endTime":1398.06,"body":"can be successful. So in their"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1398.06,"endTime":1402.05,"body":"mind, they're getting a lot from"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1398.06,"endTime":1402.05,"body":"you. Yeah. So their inner your"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1402.05,"endTime":1404.72,"body":"interaction with them is"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1402.05,"endTime":1404.72,"body":"pleasant, because they don't"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1404.72,"endTime":1409.34,"body":"know. They don't know what they"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1404.72,"endTime":1409.34,"body":"can get. Yeah. And I see you're"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1409.34,"endTime":1412.76,"body":"feeding them spat. I said this"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1409.34,"endTime":1412.76,"body":"in front of everybody. I said,"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1413.78,"endTime":1417.8,"body":"and I liked this line. This is"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1413.78,"endTime":1417.8,"body":"okay. I'm gonna give myself I"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1417.8,"endTime":1420.68,"body":"said you're feeding them spam"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1417.8,"endTime":1420.68,"body":"while you're eating ribeyes"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1421.16,"endTime":1422.36,"body":"Rick, you get hurt."},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1428.03,"endTime":1430.76,"body":"And then he just kind of like"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1428.03,"endTime":1430.76,"body":"faded into the back and you can"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1430.76,"endTime":1434.06,"body":"tell people were like, What the"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1430.76,"endTime":1434.06,"body":"hell Jim? Shut up."},{"speaker":"Shandin Pete","startTime":1437.21,"endTime":1439.04,"body":"Spam really? The"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1440.6,"endTime":1443.78,"body":"lady next to me,"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1440.6,"endTime":1443.78,"body":"the Idaho State Director goes. I"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1443.78,"endTime":1446.09,"body":"agree with everything Aaron's"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1443.78,"endTime":1446.09,"body":"saying because she was the only"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1446.09,"endTime":1449.9,"body":"one that wasn't doing like the"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1446.09,"endTime":1449.9,"body":"self aggrandizing Oh, yeah. And"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1449.9,"endTime":1453.05,"body":"there was some by the 14th Bee"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1449.9,"endTime":1453.05,"body":"and stuff happening. Yeah,"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1453.26,"endTime":1457.19,"body":"there. There's all I basically"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1453.26,"endTime":1457.19,"body":"got contradicted about my prayer"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1457.19,"endTime":1461.69,"body":"stuff by this lady, another"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1457.19,"endTime":1461.69,"body":"another BLM or a BLM or native"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1461.69,"endTime":1465.62,"body":"person? You just like sit"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1461.69,"endTime":1465.62,"body":"Aaron's basically wrong? Yeah."},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1465.98,"endTime":1469.43,"body":"But she's guests. I want you to"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1465.98,"endTime":1469.43,"body":"guess how old this individual"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1469.43,"endTime":1469.7,"body":"is?"},{"speaker":"Shandin Pete","startTime":1470.81,"endTime":1478.4,"body":"Probably. Maybe in"},{"speaker":"Shandin Pete","startTime":1470.81,"endTime":1478.4,"body":"their 60s. Yeah. 60. Yeah. And"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1478.4,"endTime":1480.95,"body":"for me, that's hard"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1478.4,"endTime":1480.95,"body":"to convey that to people to say,"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1480.95,"endTime":1483.8,"body":"Yeah, I know exactly what that"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1480.95,"endTime":1483.8,"body":"generation is going to tell me."},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1484.82,"endTime":1489.11,"body":"I know exactly their response in"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1484.82,"endTime":1489.11,"body":"a good way. This is how this is"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1489.11,"endTime":1492.14,"body":"how we start all of our"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1489.11,"endTime":1492.14,"body":"meetings. bullshit, man."},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1492.5,"endTime":1493.34,"body":"Bullshit."},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1498.74,"endTime":1504.89,"body":"Don't you don't And then then I"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1498.74,"endTime":1504.89,"body":"said, I said, if you guys really"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1504.89,"endTime":1509.12,"body":"did care about your success and"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1504.89,"endTime":1509.12,"body":"tribal consultation and"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1509.12,"endTime":1514.43,"body":"engagement, why am I the only"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1509.12,"endTime":1514.43,"body":"one here? Yeah. Why am I the"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1514.43,"endTime":1519.08,"body":"only person? The only tribal"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1514.43,"endTime":1519.08,"body":"person? What's going on here?"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1519.14,"endTime":1523.91,"body":"Yeah. And I said, kudos to all"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1519.14,"endTime":1523.91,"body":"the tribal people who work for"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1523.91,"endTime":1528.8,"body":"the BLM. But I'm sorry, you're"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1523.91,"endTime":1528.8,"body":"on the BLM. Yeah. You're not you"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1528.8,"endTime":1533.12,"body":"don't represent a tribe. People"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1528.8,"endTime":1533.12,"body":"in the trenches. Man, I, that's"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1533.12,"endTime":1535.97,"body":"where I'll toot my own horn. And"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1533.12,"endTime":1535.97,"body":"this sounds like we're just"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1535.97,"endTime":1540.59,"body":"we're getting real arrogant. So"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1535.97,"endTime":1540.59,"body":"I better stop. But I didn't I"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1540.59,"endTime":1543.92,"body":"never realized when you work for"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1540.59,"endTime":1543.92,"body":"a tribal government, especially"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1543.92,"endTime":1548.48,"body":"in Montana, you're on the front"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1543.92,"endTime":1548.48,"body":"lines, man. Yeah,"},{"speaker":"Shandin Pete","startTime":1548.63,"endTime":1551.6,"body":"you're digging the"},{"speaker":"Shandin Pete","startTime":1548.63,"endTime":1551.6,"body":"trench? Dude, you're doing it."},{"speaker":"Shandin Pete","startTime":1551.66,"endTime":1555.59,"body":"You're digging a trench, you're"},{"speaker":"Shandin Pete","startTime":1551.66,"endTime":1555.59,"body":"shooting the shots. So I"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1555.59,"endTime":1558.44,"body":"was just sitting"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1555.59,"endTime":1558.44,"body":"there. And I sent all of this"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1558.44,"endTime":1562.67,"body":"and then it sparked quite a"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1558.44,"endTime":1562.67,"body":"discussion. 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You know,"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1593.03,"endTime":1595.13,"body":"I yeah, I'm like"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1593.03,"endTime":1595.13,"body":"you didn't bring me down here?"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1595.28,"endTime":1598.04,"body":"Yeah, that's exactly my"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1595.28,"endTime":1598.04,"body":"thinking. Like, yeah. Did you"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1598.04,"endTime":1602.3,"body":"bring me down here to praise"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1598.04,"endTime":1602.3,"body":"you? Yeah. You got the wrong,"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1603.14,"endTime":1609.56,"body":"man. While I was giving my talk,"},{"speaker":"Aaron Brien","startTime":1603.14,"endTime":1609.56,"body":"I was like, I say Indian. 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