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Hi and welcome to the sheep show podcast Dedicated toe. All things bovine. Thank you for joining me, eh? I'm Jill Noble from Holston Valley Farm and Sheep Stud on your host. This is your podcast to learn, Maur No Mohr and achieve more when it comes to shepherding. Come with me as we explore the amazing world of sheep and sheep farming together. When Gerry and I first got some sheep, we were actually living in the urban suburbs on DH. We had a little urban fringe fire. In fact, we have until urban fringe Farm. For about 80 years on, we got to shape from a local urban fringe hobby farm on DH. We've put the minute trailer brought them home to our property. We had no idea about the legal obligations that we were breaching when we have those sheep, we didn't realise in Australia that you needed to have a property identification code on DH to transport those sheep. You need a national vendor or declaration. We didn't realise that we have to do a transfer off those sheep as well. From that property we bought them from onto our property. In fact, we couldn't because we didn't have our property identification code. So this podcast is very much about that. It's about the legal obligations that you have when you own sheep. In fact, you actually have a legal obligation when you own any livestock. And that includes cattle, of course, goats and horses. I've done some research for you all, and I found out what these are across the world. And believe it or not, they are incredibly similar. So really, it doesn't matter where you are in the world Listening to the sheep show podcast, you have a legal obligation When you own sheep, you move sheep on DH when you are intending to have shape on your life, your property or indeed for, um, or commercial farming enterprise. So let's take it country by country and explore what the legal obligations are. A lot of our listeners in Australia, So let's start off with Australia. So in Australia, you need to get yourself a pic code on. If I haven't have realised it before, a lot of farming requires youto understand T. L. A's that I like to call them. These are three letter acronyms, so pick code is the 1st 3 letter acronym that we will be talking about on the pick code is in Australia the property identification code. Now, this was a code that you can get from the Department of Agriculture. It's free on it. Just a signs. Number two, your property. Now you can actually identify what they are. And again, most countries have the same. So, for example, ours starts with the three. The three stands for Victoria. If you are in New South Wales, it would start with a two on DH. Then it has some letters. Our letters are s G three s tree SG for South Gippsland. If you were in Shepperton than it would be three s p on DSO on. So the codes actually means something in terms of the location. So they identify the state that you're in on then in the region, that urine as well. So if you are going to own sheep, of course, we're definitely talking about sheep here, but you could it could be any livestock. You do need to get yourself a property identification code on DH. You will get a lovely little card in the post to say that you are eligible. I suppose are able to have animals on your on your property with that property identification code. Now was the bigger picture of all of this that we're talking about here in terms of the legal requirements of owning livestock is traceability on particularly traceability, off trade all to grave. So a lot of thie animals that are born will end up in food chain on DH. Of course, for our safety, government needs Teo. Identify where that property where that property is, where the animal lived on DH indeed it for any outbreaks of diseases along the way, for example, something like anthrax, which is in the soil, would be. Then you'd know you'll be notified by the government in your local area because you've gotta pick code if that was impacting your livestock. So this is about bio bio security, hazardous risk management on DH traceability of the food chain as well. Sometimes it's also about market assurance. So in some countries they obviously did a lot of export. So the elements there around exporting those animals overseas on dth e confidence that overseas markets would have in those animals coming from a particular country. Where can you find your pick number. Where could you go? Well, you might go to meat and livestock. Australia. First of all, you might go to the Department of Agriculture. But one of the other places you want to be visited is Thie National Livestock Identification scheme or in Australia. We call this the Allies. And again all countries have something similar. Now on this particular website, what you'll be able to do is create a system where you can identify all the animals born on your property on DH, where they belong. What proper there at on DH, where you move them too. So you will go to the end. Elias website When you move animals when you sell animals, when you bring animals off to slaughter. When you bring animals to the sale yard on DH, you'll produce Wait for it on N VD. This is a national vendor or declaration. Now, in Australia, you can produce a hard copy or a digital copy off your envied e. I actually prefer to use a hybrid version. So what I do is I buy tokens on the website on DH. I have fill out those tokens with some of the general information like my pick number, my property address my website, my phone number I printed off. Then on. Then I hand right in the detail. So customers coming to my property to buy some sheep. I will have that printed out, and then when they're ready to leave, I will feel in they bought 10 use or one ram or whatever it might be. Invariably, I find that just a bit more flexible because sometimes customers either want to buy less arm or when they come to pick up their sheep. So just now is the sort of best of both worlds, half its filled in so you don't have that admin and then half of it you could be flexible with when you add in the information. If I bring my animals off to slaughter as well to the abbot OIR, I will need to produce an envied E on DH. From that, I'll send that to the abbot OIR, and they will have that from a traceability point of view. Sometimes the's are often called E Dex, so this is an E declaration. So the VD is the national vendor or decoration, and e deck stands for electronic declaration one other thing you'll need to do is well, is develop your tags or animal your tags again. Same in all countries. This allows you to trace the animal. This allows you to bring the animal to the abbot oir in Australia. At the moment, all lambs born need to have an Elektronik tag e Elektronik identification tag and this will have your pick number on it. It will also have a lamb number on it. So, for example, lambs that I were born my property in 2009 I might have a nine in there in the numbers of 901902 etcetera. If you do vaccinate for good air in Australia, good air is the vaccination for oh vine, Joni's disease, which we will talk about on the ship show podcast if you do, Vaccinated for Yoni is with good air. You will also see on your tag you will have a V. It's like a V letter in a round circle on that shows thie by our purchaser slaughterhouse. Whatever it might be that that animal has been vaccinated for good air. So another little thing that you might have on your tags as well. Now there's plenty of places you can go to get your tags. My tag preference is an enduro tag. It's a two pronged tags, so it's when you put it into the ear. It's not coming out unless you cut it out. So it just allows safety, particularly for us, with a lot of bushes and blackberries. Andi, I find with the button tags around tags they come out a lot of easier on. I've been using the two pronged enduro tags on my sheep for the last four years. We've also used them on cattle to on never lost attack. I also use a farm identification tags. Why would use a bigger tag with number on That way, I, Khun see from far the number off that ship so I can identify that sheep by looking at them across the fence rather than the little tag the electronic tag, which you have to really get up close and personal. Teo. So there you have it, your pick number, which you need to have your property identification number, your national vendor declaration for your animal movements, and you could do an edict on indeed, your your tags or National Your your national identification tags. A cz well, one change coming in Australia in 2021. Is that all the livestock? All sheep. This includes older sheep will also need tohave an electron IC tag if they go to the sale yards. If you bring them to the Avatar, they will need to be Elektronik tag. So for us farmers in Australia, we will need to look at particularly Victoria willing to look at what we call a post breeder identification tag. The ones that we use in Victoria are orange. So you have to put that on your older ship. If you're going to sell her, bring it to the abbot oir or bear to the sale yards. So something for us again to consider when we're breeding our sheep and thinking about no matter what country you're in, this will apply. So, for example, if I go to Canada in Canada you have a PID number which is your premises identification number P I d. So again very much like a pick number in Canada. Have a pit. You will also be in touch with the guy A which is the like the department in Canada on DH. From there you also have an animal assessment Animal health assessment, which is your international vendor or declaration. So again, very similar structure in the US You will be dealing with the U. S. D. A. Which is the U. S. Department of Agriculture on they have a national unified ear tagging system in you. Yes, on DH, they have animal identification number and a N on again. They have a premises identification number or a P I A n same idea, Same system. If you're in Ireland again, you're going tohave a herd or a flock number on again. You will be producing a AM, which is your animal identification movement, and again you'll have your tags and so on. In the UK, you'll also have a county premises holding number, which is a C P. H number. You'll have a flock or heard number as well. This'll ocher heard number in Ireland and the UK and in Europe cheap are subsidised in those countries. So she farming is subsidised grants available. So hence thief locker heard number is used their on again In the UK, you will have an animal reporting and movement scheme. A r AM s. They seem to like f Ella's or five letter acronyms. So not what country you're in and across Europe. It's the same as well. So you're goingto have your property code, your your tag you need to look at and indeed your animal movement document as well. So a ll countries all over the world will have a similar scheme or similar structure. So the best place to start no matter where you are, is to go to your Department of Agriculture or ah, local representative of the Department of Agriculture in your region, on talk to them or Google att and look on the Web site to help you along the way or even better, talk to your mentor. This is where your mentor again can be so helpful and so useful. If you've got a mentor, then you've got insight into exactly what you need when you need it, why you need it on where you can get it. So the shortcut to all off the mire off these websites that I'm talking about. Most importantly, though, we need to respect the tools that we have got on the systems that are in place. So completed them accurately detail ing the health of the animals and the history of the animals on DH, abiding by the movement and lodging, any history or any movements of your animals on the various different websites is what we really need to be looking at. Weir. We want to preserve and protect our industry on doing this really helps with that as well. Now, if you're on the other side of fence, if you're purchasing livestock, first of all, you do need to have your pick number. So in Australia again, your property identification called or you're paid or your pin wherever country urine. So you will need tohave that first informers before you purchase your livestock. So if you have it here on the track to buying, make sure you start off with that. Then when you do pick up your animals, then you should expect to get a copy ofthe thiss animal movement document. So again, your national vendor or declaration or your edict or your animal movement reporting schedule. Whatever country you're in now, it's fine. No matter where you are, you can get these in hard copy or soft copy, so someone sends you a text message of one. When you're on the road, that's fine. Or when someone gives the hard copy, that's fine, too. So you do need to ask for that. Or hopefully the breeder you're buying for will be very prepared and have that ready for, you know, a few little things for you to think about there to keep you two give you ready in Australia. I know that when you do take your sheep home, then you should go on Teo, the National a livestock identification Scheme website and then transfer those sheep onto your pick number. Which basically means saying, Hey, I've bought four sheep from Jill. This's her pick number on. This is the way Bill number. The way Bill number is going to be the number that's on that vendor or declaration. So that animal movement document on DH that will help you then say, too, the department that you now have X amount of sheep on your property and this is where they came from. So again, at any time, the animal can be traced throughout the system wanted to just keep you updated with all of these things and help you understand what the requirements are and indeed why the requirements are there. This helps you get off to a smooth start with whoever it is that you are engaging with whoever it is that you're buying your shit from, or indeed, selling your sheep to sow again, helping us all come across as professional, come across as serious on understanding that we are all in the same boat of managing risks and biosecurity hazards on DH indeed, complying with the legal obligations in our own countries as well. Talking of bio security, this is something we'll have a chat about in some later podcasts. So some of the things that are important for us to consider and how we can manage biosecurity hazards and risks on our farms no matter where we are again. So look forward to that podcast. In the meantime, enjoy surfing the land ofthe Ella's on DH, exploring what your requirements are in terms ofthe your You've been listening to the sheep show podcast with Jill Noble from Holston Valley Farm. Please take a moment to share this episode via your podcast up email or via social media channels. Each share helps us reach listeners just like you who could benefit from our content. Thanks so much for listening until next time. Sheep Well