Swan Dive

Jane Rimer - Collecting Community - Global Content Strategist

May 12, 2020 Jane Rimer Season 2 Episode 1
Swan Dive
Jane Rimer - Collecting Community - Global Content Strategist
Show Notes Transcript

Swan Dive welcomes our first guest to the conversation, media entrepreneur Jane Rimer, who pivoted from her highly successful career as a Global Content Strategist in Manhattan to facilitating personal leadership skills with other thought leaders and influencers at Elevation Barn in Park City, UT. Jane shares her wisdom as a life-long seeker, willing to chase her adventurous spirit, come what may, both professionally and personally. She emphasizes the importance of community, using what's in your backpack and embracing the notion that it's OK not to know. Welcome to Swan Dive.

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spk_1:   0:00
Welcome to Season two of Swan Dive, where we start something new, we dive into your stories, your pivots come to life.

spk_0:   0:08
We will have this conversation. They'll be a layer across everything that it has to do with Kobe. 19. What we're talking about really is something which, if we tune into it and that's the concept of building a community,

spk_1:   0:21
that's our first guest. Jane Reimer from Elevation Barn Way Talk a lot about community concept of leaving First is going on all the tools you have neatly tucked away stainless steel backpack. Welcome to Swan Dive, a community for your pivot from the Peacock in Park Studios in historic Avondale in Jacksonville, Florida and from Playa Grande in Costa Rica. It's another edition of Swan Dive with Stu Sheldon and Ron Rothberg. Hello, Stu

spk_2:   0:54
Ron, How are you, my friend? It's so nice to hear your beautiful voice.

spk_1:   0:58
It's great, man. This is Season two Episode one. We have a guest in the Green Room. We're gonna introduce her in just a second Jane Rimer. But we wanted to recap just a little bit, cause a lot has gone on. We launched this podcast on March 26th It is now. April 7th. This podcast you're gonna here is gonna be released on May 12th. Now, it's really important for context because we're in this crazy world wide pandemic where zoom is the new normal, you know? And we're doing this on Zoom, by the way. So what's important now And where have we been and where we going? Well, we're pleased to announce this morning we just charted We cracked took the top 100 podcasts on Apple for entrepreneurship. It was a fantastic email we got this morning. That said, While you're your number 97 which is awesome, that was 20 short days. And, um, where have we been? Well, I dove into Stu's loving arms. I pivoted from my career, and I pivoted away from this corporate regimented job into really into my roots into my creative chops. I never knew how much I missed my literal voice, and now I'm diving into it, and the feedback we've gotten about that has been phenomenal, and we're embracing every bit of it. So where we going? Well, what we talked about on the last episode was really inviting other voices into this conversation and We're so pleased to have our voice in the Green Room. It's Jane Reimer. Let me do my linked in introduction, which is a little bit more formal than what Stew will happen to do in just a second. Jane is a celebrated content strategist, media and television. Exactly an entrepreneur with an international track record for leading new market growth and Franchising major content brands. She's kind of a big deal for some of the world's leading media companies. Jane currently curates and leads elevation. Barn retreats will get to that in just a second. And beautiful Utah. Hello, Jane and stew Give it a little more personal than that.

spk_2:   3:04
I will do that. With pleasure. Jane, how are you? First of all, it is such a pleasure. You doing OK

spk_0:   3:11
there in Great Thank you. Thank you both. So much for having me. This is super exciting,

spk_2:   3:15
JaNe You are our first guest. And that is not an accident. And the reason that you you're our first guest is because, in my opinion, and I I believe that you embody, um, the positivity and the the definition of success that I believe in. And that definition includes someone who has Jawad Aviv? Someone who has the courage to follow their convictions. Somebody who appreciates that life's about having a good time. But someone who equally Aziz, intensely appreciates that. You gotta work hard and you gotta earn it. We are all pivoting to hopefully tell us about this idea of going versus leaving and how you have been collecting community and how that has served you in the changes you've made.

spk_0:   4:06
So thank you. I will absolutely speak to that. First of all again, Thank you for having me. And, uh, congratulations on making it to the top 100 tacos and entrepreneurship. That's huge. And I'm yeah, on it already. But even water now being anything that makes it so fantastic, Uh,

spk_1:   4:24
you better be good

spk_0:   4:25
mazing. So, yeah. I mean, thank you for the insurer. The link in bio is obviously the official versions to you. You know me on a personal level to which is amazing. And, uh, I treasure our friendship because it's part of It's part of my story. It's part of this whole concept of community. Community is key for us. We will. We will have this conversation. There'll be a layer across everything that that has to do with Kobe, 19. But I think what we're gonna talk about today transcends that. And it's something that perhaps has come into a little bored. Sharp focus since this pandemic has has has happened. But I think what we're talking about really is something which, if we tune into it, could be a huge, a huge support and a huge gift as we go through life. And that's the concept of building a community. So, yes, I'm British, born and raised in the UK, lived in London, spent a bit of time living in Europe, various places. Switzerland, France, Spain, but ultimately made a big move at the end of 96 moved to New York City. Never been to New York before. Never, uh, never worked there, Didn't know anybody. I just had a job, Had a job in a hotel room on DA. It took me about a millisecond to say yes to the opportunity, but I knew that I was gonna have to create a new community when I got there on and highs and lows, obviously in the process. But over a to say 18 years, almost two decades. I made him amazing friends and work connections and my Roland eggs, as they say in that traditional way of contacts on I built my community on. Then on top of that, I layered the community that I had from Europe from my background from being in the UK. So I have this rich international, you know, framework for me that I live with it.

spk_1:   6:23
Can I ask where you intentional in New York was there? Ah, an intent to the community in which he wanted to bond with.

spk_0:   6:30
I think for me it was more of an exploration. It was different experiences. What am I gonna uncover here? Because New York is a city like like many and in some cases, more than others that thrives on so many different levels. Um, but I know that during my time in New York, people say, Well, you lived there for such a long time, and I say to people, I actually had three different lives. I had, you know, single in the city. Um, do my carried best, Carrie Bradshaw, um, had, you know, dating in a relationship exploring it was, uh, you know, with Devran, which has been unbelievable. And you? He's an executive at the same time. A deejay. So I got introduced to amazing clubs. Amazing music. Ah, Holstein. A whole other layer that was new and fresh to me on Ben. We had Children in the city. So raising Children in Manhattan is a whole other experience. So I feel like I got very lucky to get these different communities going, Um, And then to your point about leaving verses going stew, which I think it is really, really important today. When I left New York moved to Park City with my family five years ago. Um, I had some people who were like, Oh, my God, that's incredible. Just, you know, confetti Fantastic on I had others who would like What do you mean? You're leaving New York? How could you possibly leave? You don't know what's out there. Um and I was That's the point. I don't know what's out there, and I kind of need to know is, But you leave it. I would say, Well, no, I'm actually not leaving anything. I'm going somewhere new, and I'm expanding my network. Yeah, to me,

spk_2:   8:04
it is a pivot, and it's an incredible distinction because you slate it and and then that will help us to understand the pivot where you want, where you went to Just

spk_0:   8:14
sure, Absolutely. So, you know, I'm a 20 plus year media exact Started out in the UK on the sale sign working for distribution companies selling originally my first Remember selling operas and ballets. Try selling a three and a Harvard operator Network network in Mexico s Oh, yeah, I got my, uh I got I got my chops doing some tough sales sales work and then I had an opportunity to move to New York and to open an office for a major international company called Pearson Television on I jumped at that chance. And, you know, my father actually gave me some really good advice. That a state of your ways, And he would. He said, You know what? I always say yes to the job. Doesn't matter if you know how to do it. Say yes first and then you'll figure it out afterwards. Absolutely. That was one of those examples I'm like, you know, I know I've got the tools in here somewhere. I don't quite know what I need, but I'm just going to say yes, and then I'm gonna figure it out. So I went I literally swam, demonstrated new, made my inroads and didn't didn't necessary Don't leave behind my my Britishness But I became an American exact in the in the network system with a foot always in Europe. So I had this great ability to say, Well, if we need an international partner, this is You should call, um I So I have this international network. So, um, after after several years in the corporate space, I decided that I wanted to be out on my own and I pivoted, and I launched my own consulting business called Nylon Life nine on being New York and London living the nine on life.

spk_2:   9:47
Ah, I see what you did there.

spk_0:   9:50
So nylon life media was born, and for over a decade, I have my own consulting business. And what I call myself, honestly is a marriage broker, because I, um I seem to have an ability to recognize which kinds of people should work together on which projects on. Then I would bring those people those groups together or individuals, and negotiate business deals around those relationships. Those

spk_1:   10:14
chops have nothing to do with New York or London. That's just in you, right? That's the

spk_0:   10:20
at the

spk_1:   10:20
DNA

spk_0:   10:21
that I think. Yeah, I think that is. I mean, I'm I've got this sort of ambitious sort of street going on in there that that, uh I don't know. I I'll tell you something that has we actually didn't prepare this, so you might I don't know. I can't believe I'm going to say this, but I am my, um my ancestors. If you look up my mother's side, the last name is really b r e a r l e y. On a couple of generations back, Harryb really and his brother invented stainless

spk_1:   10:50
steel. It's a nice

spk_0:   10:53
that's that's the sort of stop when I come.

spk_1:   10:55
I thought you were going to say you're in game of Thrones. That's so cool.

spk_2:   11:02
Wow, every time I cut onions, from now on, I'm gonna think of your Uncle Harry.

spk_0:   11:07
It's Yeah, you can You can look them out there from Sheffield, but talk about a family and individuals who had some kind of in a ambition. They moved to Russia for a few years. They came back with information they work for a big steel company. They did it. The cracked the code. They created something. Unbelievable. Andi, Sometimes I look in the mirror and go Wow, I haven't created I haven't, you know, invented something. But I think I have I have inherited that sort of passion for pushing the envelope a little bit. Just pushing a bit further. What happens if you just go that extra mile try? Yeah,

spk_2:   11:44
and and tiu Note. Teoh, just give props to your dad. What's the worst that can happen? You know, get in there, your big girl. And you're smarter than the average bear. And ah, you'll suss it out. You know, um, we talked a little bit about the, you know, you the backpack and the tools that you mass, you know? So tell us a little bit about that and how you collect these tools and how you with them out when you need him.

spk_0:   12:10
Sure. And that's part of which I know we'll get to relate as part of what we do in relation Bond. But the concept really is is fairly straightforward. It's that, you know, through our lives, we do, um you know, every experience whether it's ah, success or a failure, we learn from each and fail. F A. I L is an album that you announce that fail first attempt in learning. So when something doesn't work, it's OK because you're learning so through life on him. With these experiences, there's this little running track off knowledge and data, but that is building up inside each of us. Um, what we do is we continually running close up so far forward that we forget to check back in like an hour adventuring, if you like adventuring of tools we have to use in situations. But if we actually do hit pause, Andi, unpack this backpack of of tools of you that we carry around with us all the time. Mostly we will be surprised actually what's in there. And when you say, Oh my gosh, I could never do that. Well, that might be an instinctive reaction, but if you actually look at what what experiences you had on things you learned, it's probably often the opposite. You probably could do that quite well, whatever you know, but you just

spk_1:   13:27
it's that inventory. It's that time to take the inventory of what's in the backpack. And I think when you talked about Cove in 19 in this unique time where we're all sharing this pause together, what an amazing time to rummage through the backpack and look for the stainless steel Swiss Army knife.

spk_0:   13:44
Well, I've had many conversations with people over the last few weeks exactly on that point. It's like, What have we got to lose? We have rule at home. We're literally going back to grab T 2.1. Here. We're at home. So when I leave my house next time without a mask and without gloves to go to the grocery store, when we get to that point on, I believe will. But when that happens, who do I want to be is I walk out my door? What what energia my putting out there? One of my goals where my head and I think a lot of people are reassessing, you know, either they've just seen on the news the thousands and thousands of people and terrible stories of people who no longer have lives to live. Um, you know, So what am I doing with my life? And I think it's It's It is a great time for that, and it takes courage for sure. We could go back into the old patterns and old routines, but I I think more people than not in some areas of their life will use this as an opportunity to change something.

spk_2:   14:46
Yes, I do, too. I mean, I know that I will. And I feel that that is the zeitgeist. And I think in that exact con concept that we all need to embrace small victories. Um, most of us, you know, high performance types. You know, we if we get that job, is this the senior vice president? Then we win. But if you know, if we don't, then we lose as opposed to, you know, I'm finishing a painting that I started last week, and, um, I'm excited about it. You know, it's a small thing is that anyone ever see it? I have no idea. But it's it. I read a book with my son last night. You know, just a small thing that these small moments I'm starting to recognize, um are really what real life looks like. You

spk_1:   15:37
touched on something, Jane, and a bit I want to get back to it about the identity. You know, we're talking about identity, and you had several identities in New York. You had the single person, the dating person, the club person, the mother talk about how your identity changes with these different things. Because I can understand how ah family is something that creates changes, consumes identity. Where are you with that?

spk_0:   16:05
Yeah, I think one of the biggest things is that, you know, having a very laser focused on my career. My identity used to be very much tied to my title on, and there's a lot of work been done, a lot of therapists and a lot of amazing here. Opportunities to delve into that people and how we can disengage from being that the titles, it's on Lincoln. And actually, that's that's very fearful for a lot of people to look at ourselves. If I don't have that title and who am I? That doesn't scare me anymore. It used to There was there was a time when I lost my job on point and had toe think what who am I and make those kinds of you go through those thought process and join it and trying to figure that out At that time, I very quickly got hired by another media company. Got another new title, right? So I didn't have to delve too far into it. But I did get to a point once we moved apart. City when, um had made this incredible move, we've liver. And I did like lifestyle and hit here, you know, in many people's opinion. Um, but I, uh I got to a point where I had lost sight of really what? My identity waas my identity was the things that I was doing as opposed to who I was being and the real me and I went through this process off. Um, you know, self exploration if you like to figure to figure that out. But it was a Friday sprint. I would wake up in morning and look in the mirror and go everything good. You know, another busy day. But who am I? And that started TB. A running thread of thought in the back of my mind, which is what led me to she started, um, relation Bond. The work I'm doing elevation bottom. Um, well, who founded Elevation bonds? Been a friend of mine for, you know, 1/4 of a century. And when he stepped out of his May amazing big media advertising job to to launch Elevation Bar that I took notice of that on. Then I did the barn experience. It's a serious of retreats and with a small group of people you joined together and you you unpack that backpack that I talked about, the idea of exploring all the things that have brought us joy in life, things that have been successful on DWI identify what that has brought to us, what tools we have to go forward, and then it's like a personal and professional rebranding process. Who am I going to be when I when I leave the retreat, go back out into my world? We pivot. We don't make massive life changes all in one go. But we put it at perspective on areas of our life that allow us to lead a more stable balance, purposeful life going forward, and that's part of the elevation barn community. Now that's what we do there. About 200 people as part of the group now, and I can have a conversation any one of those 200 people that I know is genuine on points. Um, purposeful on and inspiring. Um,

spk_1:   19:04
may I ask, what brings you, joy?

spk_0:   19:07
What brings me joy? Oh, my gosh. Um, my family, my kids crazy knows this is the silliness. Well, those fun moments, um, that brings me huge joy being outdoors. I learned to mountain bike a couple of years ago after being scared beyond belief, but I cracked it. That brings me joy skiing, um, ski, touring anything outside, anything like that. A music love music level those things. And then just the simple things. A good cup of coffee. I just got a new coffee machine. Perry excited about my new coffee machine. That was a gift from friends. So much brings me joy. Silly little things. I try and appreciate it daily. I

spk_1:   19:53
love that love that, um you mentioned getting on a mountain bike after, um, not doing that. One of the things we talked about, um is a notion that it's okay not to know what didn't you know? And how do you go forward not knowing,

spk_0:   20:12
Um, So I decided to make this this career pivot to put my energy, something that was into something. It was much, much more focused on what I think my purposes. And I've, um I've always been a giver, very emotive and a very good listener. Always been some somebody people come to and talk to about their issues and things. But I had never actually harnessed that energy on those skills in any more organized way. So I didn't really know if starting to work with Elevation bar and actually run retreats. Waas, um was going to work. I had, you know, people's personal. Jenny's kind of in my hands, and that's what I have when I want to retreat, you know, we bring 6 to 10 people together, and they're all going through this period of of transformation with guidance and the facilitator, the person who's guiding them. That's a That's a really, really important role, and one that I take very seriously. I had no idea I was not gonna be able to do it. I When I first started, I felt that I was gonna be able to do it, and I literally had this sort of intrinsic belief that things would fall into place and that it would work. But talk about bringing the joy one of the most amazing feelings for me is to see people come through this process and the weight comes off their shoulders and they they are so excited and inspired about what they're heading off to do next. And then I stay in touch with them and I see the changes they make and the moments they have being inspired. I just Oh, my God, it's incredible. So toe not know whether that was gonna work and then to see it work. Oh, my God. I'm just like I'm just really grateful. Did

spk_1:   22:08
you hear your father in the back of your head when you started the position?

spk_0:   22:13
Absolutely. And, you know, my father's been gone 23 years now, but he is always with me and in the and in those things. To be honest, it's like, just just go with it. And, sure, my stomach was in knots and butterflies and everything the first time. But I'm like, if you never try, you're never gonna know, Um, what could happen and how good it could be. Right? So, um, I just had to I have this thing in me where I I have to try. I kind of owe it to myself, and I actually feel like as a role model, I owe it to my kids. I mean, there's a lot of, you know in some ways, criticism of the mama doesn't bake organic home baked cookies for every school. You know, I'm a whole foods Go away. Sorry, I don't have time to do that. It's a choice. But what I do have time to do is to is to show my Children and example of somebody who's trying to live a full life, and that means is a family. But it also means pushing myself and finding ways to be to be challenged and satisfied as an individual through work and through mine, you know, extracurricular. Us?

spk_2:   23:17
Yeah, I'm listening. It a lot of it comes down to just life is long and mix it up. I mean, life is interesting. You know, I I I've been saying to friends now for the last 10 years. Like if I could have lunch with some interesting, iconoclastic person every day for the rest of my life. And I'm not talking about a celebrity. I mean, are you? Look, I want to talk to an ornithologist. You could just tell me about, you know, about the Motte Mott, which is my favorite bird in Costa Rica. I want to talk to a plumber who can tell me, like, dude, honestly, what is the secret to, like, unclogging the sink? Just teach me about life That is the not knowing is where the interesting part of existence lies.

spk_0:   24:01
We human beings and we connected in some way or another. And if you if you nourish that network, um, then you have a support system on I don't mean to start to say that lightly that for many people, that's not the case, but for the group that we're that we're speaking to here, I think for the most part, people have got some kind of community, some network, and so any anybody who's done von has it has a network of genuine people always there. But I think with that there's a little bit of security, you know? What's the West gonna be? I'm gonna give it a go. I'm gonna learn something or having experience. Um, if we can. The one I

spk_1:   24:37
want to touch on something from the barn to you said, you know, check on the progress and see the changes that have made. And I want to really come back to the fact that not every dive is a dive or a plunge. It might be a step. My daughter. Her first job was a swim instructor and every child who learns to swim some Children take to the water and other people, other Children are a freaked out by it. I want to talk about the courage it takes to take a step or a plunge, because every single one of them's okay.

spk_0:   25:07
Oh, absolutely. I think that's a very, very important point that the concept that you know, you know, being courageous can be something which somebody seems really small. Somebody else. It's something which took took Massacre Ridge to do on. I think that's I think that's absolutely right. You know, I think small, small, small things for for for anybody will have an impact on impact. They will ultimately layer upon layer upon layer upon layer on. Do you end up making a pivot almost without realising it. If you try something, um, you way, we're going to be given a lot of opportunities in the not very distant future, to get out there and be courageous. I mean, you know, courage is gonna be Well, how do I want toe re enter the world? What's my safety? Where I feel good about this. Who am I gonna let into my inner circle on when and how am I gonna do that? Well, even But is going to be taking a deep breath and there's some kind of, you know, safety in numbers if you like, concept that we'll go through stuff. But, um, everybody has to have their own sort of meter there on a level of comfort to take a leap of faith for me, for the most part, you know, it's anything to do with you moving living somewhere else weirdly enough for me. The big things I don't worry about so much. It's more an adventure. Um, I keep us that you what do you What's moving apart? City? Well, it's our next adventure. That's how we talk about it, for sure. For me, it's the smaller things that I will let go around in my mind. I'll be constantly like, you know, this is a battle, you know, it is, you know, are these should my child be hanging out with these groups of friends or this group of friends and 1/2 and I impact that is good and that they could learn and, well, they still know them in 20 years. And I have to stop really back into going on just sometimes that these things breathe.

spk_2:   26:57
You know, there's a there's a perfect metaphor in yoga in yoga. They talk about, you know, find your edge and be there, and what they mean by that is that if you're the guy that goes into a yoga class for the first time and you're 50 years old and you can barely, like, bend at the waist and to touch your toes, you know you can touch your knees well, just stop there and hold that and breathe. And that's your edge, and you're getting as much value from that Yoga practice is the guy that wraps his feet around his head and, um, and so

spk_0:   27:31
should be where you

spk_2:   27:31
are and hold that pose and breathe. And you know, that's that's courage. That guy that much, his knees is killing it. He's doing it, he's changing it up, and you know, we all need to just recognize as you say, it's the small things that small victories, the small changes, those air, great, those air because guess what a lot of I can do. Math. Ah, lot of small changes equals a big change. So small do it constantly, and eventually we all get to the same place.

spk_0:   28:04
I think so. I love that an hour, that yoga analogy, because I think it's absolutely true. I I joke a lot about what I'm mountain biking, for example, and I really consider myself a beginner still, but I seem to be able to get out. I My motivation was to be out there with my family and people say, Well, you're you're mounded like you know, Now we can do this trail and I would say, Hold on a minute. I have nothing to prove. That's gonna be my next tee shirt. I have nothing to prove. I just This is where I want to get to. I want to be out on the mountain with my boys on endeavoring, and I want to be able to be there together as a group and enjoy that experience. But I don't have anything to prove to anybody else Don't get any false levels bars that I have t achieve. Um, we'll get Teoh. You know, my other T shirt is gonna be home. Schooling is my nemesis because yeah, no, that notion if you ask me about courage, if you ask me about Piver, it's not about, you know, big life changes. I could I could spend a whole other podcast on home schooling. You could sell

spk_2:   29:05
a TV shoot for a $1,000,000,000 of God forbid, you teach algebra.

spk_0:   29:09
Oh, my girl, she's like that. That that's a challenge for me. And that's one that is not sat well with me the last few weeks. It's an example of something I've struggled with and a friend of mine said, Teoh Jane, you know, everybody is out there in a different way dealing with that issue. Everybody whose families of school age kids and I was like, You don't wait a minute. Why am I? Why am I putting so much pressure on myself here? Why don't I just try and take a step back and reduce the pressure? And then hopefully don't take attention down on everybody. Guess

spk_2:   29:37
what? We're all flailing together. You know what I mean? I mean, so I watched this one. Funny thing the other day. This one was saying, Like, Listen, first of all, just let your kids watch TV all day long, You know what I mean? And you ask them how many minutes have you been watching TV? If they can answer that question, that's their math and work. You don't mean

spk_0:   29:55
but on the

spk_2:   29:55
subtitles and have them read them aloud. Okay, reading. Good check. So, I mean, it's about radical self acceptance. We talked about this on our last episode, I think, and just like we all need to just take a step back. It's okay. We're doing the best we can. The world is in absolute madness. Let's just, like, be okay being okay. And we're doing our Yeah, we're

spk_1:   30:17
going to get through this, You know, my t shirt's gonna be Zuma's, the new normal. And, um, and keep your eye on your own, Matt. You know, if you keep your eye on your own, Matt, you're gonna be just fine. I love that Jane. What's next for you at Elevation Born?

spk_0:   30:33
So what's next for us? Well, it's an interesting question, right? now because, you know, at the concept of elevation Bond, um was built on the idea off the small retreats that happened in beautiful places. We have, ah, retreat base in Bali. We have one in upstate New York. We have one and proximity. In Utah. We have Oh, hi. You were launching Sidney, Canada, Norway, All these new places. This is on the growth trajectory for the for the company way have this network of a couple of 100 people who are already part of it. So what I would have said before Cohen, 19 was that we were on a fast track to launch any locations to have as many people as we can bring into the network as possible ongoing at that fast track. So with cov 19 we are now working on an online version so that we can run these retreats in a somewhat more truncated version on lines that people can still get benefits and join our network. But a lot more focus right now is on what network can do what these 200 people do, and they're they're across. I don't know At least 20 countries around the world on about 35 40 different professions or lifestyles, I should say, because not everybody has a traditional profession. But what can we do? What can we do personally to help ourselves and our families? What can we do for our communities right now on? Then what can we do for some of the bigger grand challenges that are out there in the world today that we're facing? And that list that's the priority list has changed with covert. 19 were right now. This is the core strategy group of Elevation Bonner's. We are putting our heads together to figure out what we can do. It's almost like a bit like smoke jumping, weaken, weaken. A group of 10 of us can jump in on a project. You know, we do things with nonprofit with Sylvia Earle on Mission Blue. And but who else coming work with Now what? What are the priorities? And so I'm eternally grateful that we have this network of people that we've way a mass that number before Cove. It happened because I feel where were a powerful group here that conduce, um, real good. And I'm excited for that. Um and then we just have to get it time before we can all be comfortable with meeting doing retreats again. But, um, I think people as we talked earlier about people being in a situation where they're gonna be reassessing a lot more, um, I think that fits elevation bomb. Really well. We have a tool that they can use a really beautiful tool that will give them clarity, courage, confidence on a different perspective. And you also get some instant new friends as well, Which is great.

spk_1:   33:19
Absolutely. We're all in the middle of reinventing. You know, Swan dive came out before this thing started, and it just became the whole world at the same time. You've been our first guest Jew. It's been awesome. It's been awesome. Ah, stew. Do you want to, um, have anything you want to plug? You just said you finished a piece of art. Do you have anything new on your website? Well, why don't you have

spk_2:   33:44
that? You asked that I am about to launch a new project called Happy Place. The Joy Project. Uh, you heard it here first. And it's going to simply be that I'm inviting artists around the world, be they visual artists, musicians, poets, what have you to make art in this time? It's new work, work that answers the question. What brings me joy? What is that thing? That place, that person, that feeling that really, really lights me up. And let's use the intention and the action of making that work as a small escape from this pain and from this confusion in the isolation in the fear. Because what I've learned in studying my practices, particularly as I've become more of an activist, social justice related activist, is that success in activism is not the absence of pain. It's the presence of joy. So there's another step, you know, you get rid of racism, but then we've got to get to like, the joy. So happy place, stay tuned, keep it locked. And, uh, we're gonna have some fun with that. I think it's gonna be a good time.

spk_1:   35:02
And, Jane, is there anything we need to follow up with you that we can follow along with it home?

spk_0:   35:06
Well, I think for anybody listening, who is interested? Clearly a plug for elevation bond. Check us out. Online innovation, bond calm. Um, and if anybody wants to reach out and chats personally, you know, you could reach Mitrice one dive, and I'd be more than happy. Teoh speak to anybody just on a personal level. Those connections really, really are, um what's gonna take us all forward and be successful?

spk_1:   35:33
That has been giving me joy in these last few weeks. The connections that I've made we've made through the voice that we've shared together in this crazy little corner of the world that we've created all by ourselves.

spk_0:   35:45
Stewart, I just one thing that I didn't want to say thank you to you, Stuart in particular because we did meet at a crazy kind of conference. And out of about 3000 people, I think I made probably three connections that are meaningful to me. One is an astronaut to your point about talking to interesting people. I could talk to him all day, but meeting you there stew and then getting to know your family onda, um, and being another avenue for me to tap into our and the activism and everything that brings so much to me. And I just wanted to say thank you personally for for being in my life and our family's lives. It's, uh it's It's huge, Thank you

spk_2:   36:29
and thank you, Jane. That's very gracious. I love you very much.

spk_1:   36:33
Stewart is at Stewart at Stewart sheldon dot com. I am Ron Rothberg, Ron Rothberg Comcast dot net and Ron rothberg dot com. So next week we're gonna be leading everyone on a proactive search and we're gonna be listening to more voices. More swan dies, more pivots A. Please stay safe, stay to yourself and remain connected. What's one?