
Cosmic Scene with Jill Jardine
Cosmic Scene with Jill Jardine, is a cutting edge podcast, bringing in a new paradigm in the consciousness-shifting movement. Jill Jardine, M.A. Counseling Psychology, is a professional Astrologer and Psychic for over 30 years and shares her wisdom of this esoteric art and science. On “Cosmic Scene with Jill Jardine,” Jill shares Astrology updates every month, with important astrological information, and psychic hits on current and upcoming events. Jill shares timely astrological insights on the current Cryptocurrency markets and trajectories. On Cosmic Scene, Jill interviews guests who are healers, psychics, astrologers and leaders in the consciousness movement, and planetary awakening.. As a certified teacher of Sanskrit Mantras, Jill shares the ancient sacred sound formulas which can be applied to contemporary life situations. Jill Jardine, is a life long Astrologer, and a, Psychic, Healer, Hypnotherapist, and Yogi. She is certified in several healing modalities. Jill’s wisdom and experience from facilitating clients to more hopeful, happier, and healthier lives will be revealed to the listeners of Cosmic Scene so they may enjoy the benefits!
Cosmic Scene with Jill Jardine
Devara Thunderbeat on Sound Healing and Ancient DNA Activation
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Brace yourselves as we venture into the harmonious universe of Devara Thunderbeat, an acclaimed musician, author, and pioneer in sound healing. Gifted with the name Thunderbeat by Native American elders, Devara seamlessly blends music, color, and light to awaken and heal. From her musical roots to her exploration of sound healing, discover her intriguing experiences in Egypt and how they inspired her esteemed Chakra Journey CD.
Take a deep breath, as we delve into the ancient art of 22 strand DNA activation. Imagine unlocking your genetic code to clear ancestral patterns, potentially combat diseases, and break free from generational addictions. Listen to how a wise 84-year-old woman initiated Devara into this transformative practice, embracing the spiritual coding of DNA. Prepare to be mesmerized as we uncover the profound influence of such techniques in paving the path towards a healthier future.
Fasten your seat belts as the final leg of our conversation takes us to Sedona, Arizona. Here, Devara unveils her captivating findings of ancient Egyptian sculptures and traces of extraterrestrial activity. Revel in her tales of spiritual guidance leading her to the sphinx, hidden figures of gods and goddesses, pharaohs, queens, and much more. Devara’s narrative will stimulate your curiosity and leave you yearning for more. So, tune in and let the rhythm of Thunderbeat guide you into a world of sound healing and spiritual awakening.
Devara Thunderbeat is a Multi Awards winning Musician/Composer, Author, Speaker, 22 DNA Activator, Certified Reiki Master, Contactee, and Pioneer in Sound Healing. She is the author of four books, Chakra Journey: Awakening the Chakras, Hand Drumming: Rhythms from around the World, Look Up: My Encounters with ET's and Angels, and Ancient Egypt found in Sedona, AZ.
Devara has been on numerous Talk and TV shows including Gaia TV. She has won multiple awards for her music, and a "Beacon o Light Award" for her inspiration, creativity, wisdom, compassion, and service to the community and the world.
Check her out at: www.ThunderBeat.com
Download her music at: www.SiriusStarGate.com
Welcome to Cosmix Scene with Jill Jardine. I'm your host, jill Jardine, master's in Counseling, psychology, professional astrologer, psychichealer and Yogi. In this episode, my guest is Devarah Thunderbeat. We're delighted to have Devarah here. She's an award-winning musician, composer, author, speaker, 22dna activator and much more. You're gonna want to stay tuned to hear what she has to share.
Speaker 1:Welcome to the episode featuring my guest, devarah Thunderbeat. The name Thunderbeat was given to her by Native American elders for her ability to heal and awaken through the power of sound. She's a multi-awards winning musician, composer, author, speaker, 22dna activator, certified reiki master, contactee and a pioneer in sound healing. She is an author of four books Chakra Journey, awakening the Chakras, hand Drumbing Rhythms from Around the World, look Up my Encounters with ETs and Angels, a True Story with Extra-Terrestrials that have been in contact with her since the age of four, and her latest book called Ancient Egypt, found in Sedona, arizona, faces in the Rocks. She's been on numerous talk and TV shows, including Gaia TV. Devarah has won multi-awards, including a Beacon of Light Award, for her inspiration, creativity, wisdom, compassion and service to the community and to the world. Some of the awards that she's won as a musician, author, composer and visual artist are 2020 Las Vegas.
Speaker 1:Egyptian Sun Best Musical Production Award 2012. Los Angeles Music Award for Egyptian Sun Musical Soundtrack of the Year 2011. Phoenix Music Producer Choice Awards for Egyptian Sun. Gods and Goddesses Musical Soundtrack of the Year 2010. Producer Choice Award for Egyptian Sun Best Musical of the Year 2010. Zmr Nominee Award for Musical Score. Egyptian Sun Best Groove CD of the Year 2006. Native American Music Award for Mayan Landing 2012 Best World and New Age Recording. And the Beacon of Light Award for her inspiration, creativity, wisdom, compassion and service to the world. You can find Devarah on her website, wwwcapitalthundercom, with a capital T and B. Download Devarah's music at wwwseriousstargatecom. It is my honor and great pleasure to welcome our guest to Cosmic Scene, devarah Thunderby. Welcome Devarah, hi Jill, thanks for having me so glad to have you on the show. Can't wait to hear what you have to share. I think my listeners might want to hear more about your music and how that has evolved for you and your abilities to heal and awaken through sound.
Speaker 2:Wow.
Speaker 2:Well, that story it basically all started when I went to the Great Pyramids of Egypt. I've been a musician all my life. I actually played full drum set and I played in rock bands in New York City for many, many, many years Very cool. And then I went solo and when I was in the Great Pyramid of Egypt, I was overnight with the group there and I did.
Speaker 2:I was doing ceremony and all of a sudden Archangel swear to God, archangel Gabriel comes in. Now, if you don't know who Archangel Gabriel is, he's the one to add, said to Mother Mary that you know Jesus is coming. So, but he's a messenger. He's talked to many people and over in the Middle East, I guess he hangs out there, I don't know, but so he. So he tells me this. He tells me color, light, sound. Now, this is just after I did a ceremony with my drum, my hand drum and everything. I did a prayer and he caught any tips repeating this to me color, light, sound. So I said, oh, he's talking about the chakras, he's talking about the seven colors of the rainbow he's talking about each chakra has a sound. I, you know, I put it all together, thinking, you know, meditating on this, and I said, okay, that's what he's saying. It's a long story short, let me put it that way.
Speaker 2:And so when I got home from Egypt I started writing the chakra journey CD. That's what I called it. And, by the way, on the way over from to Egypt I said I want to write a CD with the word journey in it. I actually put that out there. So when I got home I said, oh, chakra journey, here we go. So he actually came and helped me with the tones for the chakra CD.
Speaker 2:Now, this is a 1997. Now there was no really chakra CDs out there that I know of. Yeah, I have a dear friend, jonathan Goldman. He's a master in sound healing and he didn't even have a chakra CD out there and at that time. So so I came out with that and that was my first sound healing CD.
Speaker 2:And then after that it just took off my sound healing knowledge and you know doing sound healing sessions with my chakra CD, extended to other CDs, like I have for my sound healing CD. I have a ascension CD, I have a heart chakra CD, I have a. Let me see, I have 14 CDs. I have to remember all of them. They're all 14 solo CDs, that is so, and they're what do you call it? Let's see. Then I have a 12 DNA activation CD and then my other CDs that I have are really from my eight my sacred travels from, you know, egypt Also. I've been back a few times and I always would come home and write a CD right away from my my sacred travels to my inlands. You know I actually have a cosmic CD that I've channeled in music from different star systems.
Speaker 1:Seriously, Seriously, s I R I U S L? Y. Well, well, isn't that the people? Can they access all of the CDs on wwwseriousstargatecom, or just okay, okay.
Speaker 2:Cause we, that's my, that's my download site. You can listen for free and then download whatever you like. You're allowed to listen, like three times, you know, to everything. Actually, then every CD on there is totally different, totally different activation, totally different journey. You know a lot of tribal things on there. There's a lot of, like I said, the ancient Egyptian kind of almost kind of like belly dancing kind of activation. So there's a lot of fun stuff on there.
Speaker 1:So you're set. You're very prolific creator, but as I look at your picture here, I think maybe you've had some past lives in Egypt. Have you, uh, had some of this journey been back to rediscover what you may have been working with on a soul level in previous times?
Speaker 2:Absolutely. Uh, yeah, Uh. Actually, when I the first time I went to Egypt was in 1997 and I'm looking for anything I recognize because I know I had a past life there. Just, you know, internally no one told me, Um, but I said, okay, let me see what I recognize there, and it was the older temples. I finally got to the older temples, I recognize them. And I was in Hashipsu's temple. Uh, she's, she was a queen and there were. And the Egypt ecologist was talking all about her and I said, well, that doesn't sound like me, but I think I was probably her sister or something like that. I said casually, right, and then I looked over and I said, oh my God, over here they used to teach the children. Over here is the living quarters. I mean, I recognize the whole place. And when I got home I got a Kaushik records reading from this Lisa Barnett, she's amazing. And I didn't say anything to her. She goes do you know? You were a sister of the queen? How ships you? And I'm like what, Wow?
Speaker 1:confirmation.
Speaker 2:Who doesn't read and the inner circle, yeah.
Speaker 2:And I was just kind of you know, seriously kidding kind of thing, you know. But I just said I know, you know I've been here before, and then she tells me my name. She says your name was never raw and you used to teach the children in the courtyard. Oh, my gosh, and one of the children check this out was Moses. Wow, yeah, that's my next book I'm working on, where no one knows the timeline of Moses and I'm going to say I do, because my sister was the one that found him in the river. She found him. Oh, and it's a long story, I would be a whole episode I'm telling you.
Speaker 1:That sounds amazing. So that was where, when you were in Egypt is when you were getting the color light sound downloads as well, and that probably you did some for me, healing in those pyramids which, as we are discovering that they were used as sound healing places. Sound light healing, the vibration, the geometry, all of that amplified it and we're just coming back around to understanding that. Yeah, so you're, you're definitely prolific with this, with the music Now. So you have the CDs and, as we said, people can get those through serious stargatecom. Are they available on places like Spotify too?
Speaker 2:Yeah, a few of them. Yes, they are. Actually. You can listen to Spotify or Apple, some of the other sites, just that I have. I haven't put them all up on there. I have so many, so when you go to the download sites, it's more, it's kind of freer, if you ask me, and you can download it whatever you like.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that sounds great. That's a great service that you're giving to the world. Now you also do some in-person or you do some sound healings there, based out of Sedona, correct. If somebody was going out there and they wanted to get a sound healing in-person session, that is something you do.
Speaker 2:Correct. Yes, it's a totally one-on-one person, or I can do groups. I've actually do a lot of retreats. I can do many people at the same time, but they have to be live because of the quality of the sound. I'm a rakey master so I do a lot of hands-on and working with the shamanic breast work, so you really need to be there in person.
Speaker 1:It sounds amazing. Now, have you had any testimonials from people who have come and some miraculous or what kind of things have gone on for them after these sessions? I'm sure you've gotten some amazing stories.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, I have a lot of them on my website.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's good to know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the chakra I have. I don't even know how many I put up there, but I have. Yeah, people remember their past lives. People go.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, this one lady she had back pain for like I don't know how many years, many years. She tried chiropractic. She tried all kinds of things. I went to many, many, many doctors. She said nothing worked. And she came with me and I had one sound healing session with her and she goes.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, after the session she goes. My pain's gone. I said, well, let me know how long that lasts, If it comes back, let me know. I'd like to know, because this is kind of new in this area. I know it releases pain, but she's talking serious, long-term pain. Okay, Well, she contacted me two to three weeks later. She goes, it's still gone. She contacted me three months later. She goes, it's still gone. So it relieves pain, so it's, and it release stress, fear, anxiety, pain, the sessions and activates your chakras and tunes, brings you back into who you really are and expands your awareness. Because we work on clearing old stuff from the chakras, we activate each chakra, because a lot of people's chakras are not all activated, only a couple here and there and they're out of balance so and I balance them during the session. So a lot goes on during a session.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it sounds. It's pretty intense that people are receiving, and even at the physical as well as the energetic levels I mean all the subtle pathways sound loves to just pump right through those subtle pathways and open up the blackages. So it sounds like your work does that, and even you. You have these testimonies too, from people just listening to the CDs or the downloads. Correct?
Speaker 2:Yeah, just listening.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I've been doing this for many years. Yeah, I would like to play that kind of. It's kind of good music to play in the background too when you're doing other healing work. For for all the healers out there, nice little soundtracks to have in the background when they're doing Right.
Speaker 2:I actually recommended to massage therapists because the the chakra journey does the inner work while they do the outer work, and the combination is profound.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's not. That's what I was thinking. It sounds amazing for all the healers out there. Check it out, and then you can integrate them into their work. So you're doing remarkable service here with the music and all the other sound work that you're doing. Deborah, I'd like to segue a little bit, because I know you have another offering that sounds amazing and maybe you can explain it a little bit to our listeners the 22 DNA light code activations, and I understand you don't have to be in person to receive that.
Speaker 2:Now I can do that through the internet. That's the major energy. We can go through anything actually, but the 22 DNA activation I'm actually one. It's very ancient, this knowledge that I got initiated to do it comes from the keys of Enoch, the book of Enoch, which they took out of the Bible. They didn't want anybody to know this information, right.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:But I was initiated by an 84 year old lady that was been doing this work for 50 years or more and she said you know? I said I'm supposed to do this work, and she said she tuned in to me, she goes, let me ask the guides, because there's only 10 people in the country that is doing this work and allowed to do this work. And I said, really, and I, when she activated me, I said this is the work I'm supposed to do. So she tuned in to her spirit guides. She went home, anyway, she called me the next day and she said oh my God, this is one of the reasons why you came in to do this work. And I'm like, yes, and so I am one of the 12 now that does this work.
Speaker 2:And this is the work on your human DNA. And the DNA contains far more than scientists know. The mapping of the physical strands has begun by. The scientists are unable to read the spiritual coding at this present time. They have labeled these parts of the DNA as junk DNA because they don't know, they have no clue, they're very and the DNA is part, a lot of it is etheric.
Speaker 1:Right, energetic, etheric. So it can't show up in like lab tests or on microscopes or whatever, because it's it's so subtle and it's beyond the physical. And so this, these are the strands that you're waking up, right? Is there? There's the two ones they know, and then, in addition, there's how many more?
Speaker 2:they talk about, they talk. Will you talk about the scientists that they talk about? Well, no, I'm hearing.
Speaker 1:Even in the metaphysical communities, there's all these different theories about you know. Oh, there's an extra 12 strand of DNA and there's an extra. So I I'd love to hear your theory or what, how your technique works. And the 22, which this is actually the first time in hearing, 22 strands. So I'd like to hear.
Speaker 2:It's a master, it's a master number and the yeah, some people go oh, 12 and then double that 24. And they talk about 24. But this is very, very ancient knowledge and it has so many of the 22 cellular memories in there, because those are the, that, those were the codes. The golden light codes were the 22. So, basically, like your DNA is sacred and it's personal and it's unique, it contains coatings that determines your body type, behavior patterns and potential diseases and more that actually come along with with some DNA and that runs in your bloodline, right, okay?
Speaker 1:Yeah, like the ancestral, the genetic ancestral, a lot of, exactly A lot of people want to clear some of those patterns, it seems.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Yeah, oh well, and this, what? This is what the 22 DNA does. We, we I'll go through the whole list of everything it does. It does clear out old genetic patterns, you know of any kind of diseases that edit and like, let's say and they're one on one sessions I can't do a group but these are personal sessions but when, let's say, the woman has three children, it's going to help the children and it clears out their genetic coding of any diseases. It's, it's, it's incredible, incredible.
Speaker 1:I know that's such a legitimate process that people are looking to do, like healing healing the DNA so that the descendants aren't going to carry forth patterns such as addiction, alcoholism or other things like that and this is what these therapies can do and it sounds like the one that you're involved with is ancient and it's the real thing. It's the real deal. It's not just some new age manifestation of a DNA clearing, it's this. This goes way back. It sounds like as far back as the Bible, egypt and thousands, thousands of been on the planet, probably from the Galactics.
Speaker 2:Yeah, absolutely. I really believe that Also encoded there's information about your spiritual family, where you came from, why you're here on earth. You know the 22 DNA activates your personal codes for you to remember who you are so and why you're here. You know it expands your awareness greatly. You just start to know things. You start having epiphanies. You go, oh my God, I don't know why or how I know this information. I just know this information because that is your DNA being awoken.
Speaker 1:Yeah, probably people also awaken latent talents, gifts and even what we call in Sanskrit cities, as I did, the HIS, which are would be considered magical abilities, but really they're things like intuition, clairvoyance, claircentance, clairaudience. I'm sure that this process would also awaken those, since those are all latent in all of us. Yep.
Speaker 2:It's all there on the list. Actually, it's all on my website. I'll go through a few things, but if you want to know more, they can go to Thunderbeatcom and click on the 22DNA activation. It tells you everything. But, yeah, it empowers you to macanimize your potential, to bring forth talents you have unrealized, enables you to have more energy and clarity, allows releasing of unconscious knowledge stored within. Like I was saying before, creates a greater opening for connecting to your higher self. Allows clearing of family, genetic and karmic patterns. I don't actually release the karma, that would be a bad karma for me so it helps you realize the karmic patterns and release them, and it strengthens your immune system, quicker rejuvenation and all your tissues and muscles. It activates dormant brain functions to their original divine plan. Imagine that.
Speaker 1:Wow, that's such a great offering that people should check out on Thunderbeatcom. Excellent, and it's a lifetime activation.
Speaker 2:I just want to say that, too, it's a lifetime activation. You do it once and you don't do anything. No more DNA activations, because it is a lifetime.
Speaker 1:Wow, so they only have to do one session.
Speaker 2:One session, that's it.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's amazing. All right, so much good stuff here, debra. In our remaining time I kind of want to segue to your books, some of your books we talked a little bit about the awakening that we actually haven't talked the Chakra Journey, the CDs, but the actual book. And I also want to hear about your most recent book, h&e Jump, found in Sedona, arizona. And we'll go out with a little bit about the ETs and Angels, but, as we discussed, that's a whole other episode.
Speaker 2:Okay, absolutely. Well, yes, I do have the Chakra book. I mean, I'm totally spiritually guided. And, by the way, I want to say, archangel Gabriel, he's a musician. Oh wow, gabriel, come blow your horn. He's a horn player, so he knows. No one puts the two and two together. I have a musician going wait a minute, how does he know this sound activation stuff? And I'm like wait a minute, he's a horn player, so he knows sound, and so he is just amazing messenger. And I am a musician.
Speaker 2:I never thought I was going to write any books. Now I got four books out and working on my fifth and I came out when I finished the Chakra Journey CD, I did a Chakra DVD with a color, light sound in it. And then, after I finished that, I'm in my recording studio and he comes in and he goes now write the book. And I'm like what I said, what book? He goes to Chakra book. And I'm like, oh, I go. And I argued with him. I said there's 52 million Chakra books out there. He goes, not like yours, plus, it will complete your package. He says and I'm like what? I'm like, okay, all right, I was just starting to write a workshop, so I started there and and then it just came into the full book and it came.
Speaker 2:He came in and downloaded me new or I shouldn't say new, I think it's ancient, forgotten information that I put in that book and, like if anybody knows about the Chakras, I got the star, the solar system, aligned with each chakra. What, wow, yeah. What planets aligned with each chakra. I got animal totems for each chakra. I mean I had. The book is very. It's only a hundred pages, but it's intense. It has tons of information. No, there's no cycle babble in there. I call it. It's like to me the new way to write a book, as in just get to the point, because you know when people read books, you know you got a 20, 20 page chapter and then the last page is the information.
Speaker 1:Right, Right, so you get right to the point. Chak, chak, full of goodness, yeah.
Speaker 2:Chak full of Chakras. That's right Chak Chakras full, that's that's amazing.
Speaker 1:I would think that yoga teachers would probably want to start using that to teach the Chakras correctly.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And you know about the mantras, the beach mantras that go to each chakra like yeah, I would think they're all in the book.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:That's what I would think, of course, that you would have included those.
Speaker 2:So that's Meridian systems. I mean it gets pretty technical in there and then I have some fun things in there, but every page is like total information. That's it, and it's a color book. I like it's photo book. Oh nice, yeah, beautiful colors. So I love color, light and sound, you know.
Speaker 1:There you go. That sounds very valuable to have in our libraries. Yeah, so the other one that you just wrote the agent Egypt found in Sedona. What can you tell our listeners a little bit about that? I mean, I go to. Sedona a lot, so I know a little bit, but I think some people may be fascinated to hear about the, the structures that are there and what, what they look like.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, I moved here about 23 years ago and it was another. Magical experiences happened to me where I was guided by spirit. I was hiking everywhere, and then I was driving one day I was going, I was going oh, I want to go hiking over here today. And they guided me to this whole other place, fully opposite, and they stopped me and they said, okay, stop here. And I'm like, stop there, and there's a sphinx. They wanted me seat to see a sphinx and I was feeling Egypt here, but I didn't know. I felt a major connection here in Sedona and that's where it all began, though. It all began from that one day when they guided me to the sphinx, and then I started looking at everything.
Speaker 2:Now I've been a rock hound on my life, at bay. Basically, I had a crystal store for ten years in Florida and then I moved here, and then I'm half Native American and my uncle used to teach me when you see the rocks, you see the faces in the rocks, those are the ancient ones and the ancient knowledge. So I would always look at rocks differently, you know, because I found ancient Egypt here. It's, it's. I'm still blown away, I'm gonna tell you, because there I found like 12 to 14 major gods and goddesses, wow, and pharaohs and kings and queens. They're all over the place. They're hidden in plain sight. It just people don't think of. You know, the rocks are gonna be something you know, right? So it's all in my photo book.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so do you take people on tours to these to see these when you come to Sedona? Absolutely yeah, it's so much fun.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I do a two-hour tour and I show them all the ancient Egyptian stuff and it's plus I have faces in the rocks. I found more things than just Egypt here. I found dragons and bird sculptures and High priests, I mean. So I think I'm on the tour of like Spaces in the rocks and the ancient Egypt figures, you know you know there's a big when you first come into Sedona.
Speaker 1:Down Around Bell Rock, across from Bell Rock, there's a huge ganache. I'm a Vedic person Vedic astrology, sanskrit mantras and stuff but I always notice that ganache. You're driving in, it's over to the left. Have you ever seen that? Have you? It's in my book.
Speaker 2:That's oh, yeah, Okay it's in my book, and right across the street is a baby ganache.
Speaker 2:Okay and I have that on the same. Alright, it's all photos and I have the same page, you know, because I am Once they got me started the I call them the rock spirits, you know, got me started. I'm looking everywhere and every for everything you know. And, yeah, and it's right. And, by the way, in that area, quan is there. Every section has its own kind of it's like a library here. Every section has its own like world, and so there's good Nash Quan in two ganaches. Okay, yeah, and it's just, it's like I said, it's so blowing me away.
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Speaker 1:beat calm though the other thing is that down there Bell Rock, if you walk it's. It feels to me like whenever I go there, I mean I go all over, but that I've been noticing it's like a, and the one that's behind Bell Rock, the baby bell, I think they call it's like a. It looks like it's a landing zone For spaceships. Would would you concur with that?
Speaker 2:Yeah, they see a lot of ships around Bell Rock, going in and out actually of the mountain and they're. But those ships in Sedona, they're all over the place. I'm telling you, and I I have got Bell Rock. I mean that bell rock, yeah, bell Rock, which is a very famous rock, it is actually a lion's finks it is. I have it in my book.
Speaker 1:It's a it will.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you have to get the book to see. You know, you can go on my website and see some of the pictures. You know, it's not like. It kind of looks like it goes. Oh my God, that's like the real deal there, you know.
Speaker 1:Right, so that goes into your book, which we're gonna probably have a whole show on encounters with ETs and angels in Sedona. There you've been having a lot of experience with that. A lot of people have, but there's certain areas that are very hot for that and it's a constant activity, right, it's not like, oh, it's just gonna happen during the full moon. It seems to happen a lot out there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, just about every night, you know, and people go. Well, I look up and I don't see anything. Well, you have to look for a good 30 minutes. How's that? You know? And they have a lot of people here that do night vision tours and you'll see I know this is gonna be amazing to a lot of people You'll see at least 40 to 50 in one hour with those night vision glasses. That's how busy it is out there. And let me tell you some information that I have put to two and two together with them Full moon. The reason why a lot of people see more on the full moon or the day before the full moon is because they use that energy to pull them out of the atmosphere. Oh, wow, the moon's energy. Yeah, it helps them leave the planet.
Speaker 1:That's wild, but it makes sense for sure. Wow, now, have you had encounters yourself? Well, this is all part of the next episode, but just a little teaser for an upcoming show. Have you had encounters yourself? I mean, you, in your bio you are a contactee, and do you think it's because the fact that you have some indigenous native DNA that the whole connection with star people is very prominent?
Speaker 2:Yeah, you could this is what I'll tell you. The first story was when I was four years old. I was playing in the driveway. My first contact. I was broad daylight, upstate, new York, and I'm on my tricycle okay, and there was a cloud ship. I call it a cloud ship because it was a ship cloaked in a cloud and it pulled me up into the ship. And it was pulling me up into the ship, my mother ran out of the house trying to catch me and they pulled her up too. And that's where the story begins in my book. It's called Look Up my Encounters with ETs and Angels.
Speaker 2:And so what they did was they put me on a table actually it was a table, but it was a rolling table and they rolled me down this hallway and there was these doorways that were arch shaped and each room had different colors. Each room was a different color. And then, yeah, so then they put me in this room and they shined like this golden light on to me and they said your name is Flying Eagle with many wings. And I said this sounds Native American. So I asked my, because that's what you were mentioning. I asked my uncle, I said, and I told him the story. I said they called me this name Flying Eagle with many wings he goes. Where do you think we get our names from? From the star people. We get them from the star people. We get our names and I'm like, oh my God. So there's your answer.
Speaker 1:Oh, beautiful, beautiful. And speaking of those cloud ships, they're all over Sedona too, aren't they?
Speaker 2:They're all over the United everywhere I was living in Florida. They're all over Florida. They're all over. I mean you can see them just about anywhere, yeah, especially now.
Speaker 1:But people, yeah, they're here to help us for sure.
Speaker 2:Yeah well, yeah, they don't interfere, though because it's a free will zone. The planet earth is a free will zone, so because we supposed to kind of do it ourselves. But they give us suggestions. This is what they how they do it. They give us, like you know, ideas, so we actually have to do it. That's the help they are giving us, and the other help they are doing is they're gonna make sure this is the major work that they do. Is they make sure that we're not gonna blow up this planet? Right, they go into the nuclear weapons and dismantle them.
Speaker 1:Right, we're kind of we've been quarantined because of, since, you know, the discovery of the A-bomb and all the nuclear stuff. I think we're quarantined in the galactic zone. So they really try to, you know, zip it from their perspective. They don't want the contamination going out into the whole universe.
Speaker 1:But you know, I've told people that and they people don't believe that, but you know, we know it's true. So I feel like there's much more galactic intelligence here too right now to help with the planetary shifts that are going on. I mean, they have been here pretty strongly since the 40s that people have been seeing them, but, yeah, a lot of people they don't realize that these are benevolent beings that are helping the consciousness shift and so people can't hear that enough because people like to be in fear about that.
Speaker 2:There's no fear. Yeah, there's no fear. It's just that we have to. We have to be the change. You know Exactly. We have, yeah, be the change. But you know, the guy that made the A-bomb I forget his name, but take a good, you know, if you get a chance, take a good. Look at that guy's face. He's an ET. He is not human.
Speaker 1:Right, they brought in some of their technologies for better or for worse. But this has been such an enlightening interview with you, devarah, I'm wondering if you have any words of wisdom for our listeners before we sign off Any other sharings. Are you going to be at any expos or any offerings that we didn't touch upon that you may want to tell my listeners about?
Speaker 2:Well, I'm doing some private, personal retreats that include all the work that I do and plus more. We get out on the land and go on tour on the land. Those are personal for singles and couples. That includes everything your place to stay, your food, everything. Everything is just going to be treated like a king and a queen. I love doing that. We have so much fun. That is very enlightening. That's all in Sedona, arizona. If you don't know Sedona, go look up some pictures. It will blow your mind. It's breathtaking. Basically, that's what I'm focusing on now. It's just doing getting retreats and doing, like I said, the one-on-one. They're private. They're private retreats.
Speaker 1:It's a great offering and people really need that kind of condensed activation and you're the perfect person to do it with, with all your gifts, so that's good to know. Again, they can check that out at Thunderbeatcom. Oh, debra, this has been a great time today with you. I'm so glad that you've been the guest and shared all your wisdom and everybody. Go check out her music at seriousstargatecom and get yourself elevated and activated to some of these higher planes. So thank you.
Speaker 2:You're so welcome and thank you. Make sure, on some of those sound healing CDs, you don't drive with them because you'll miss your exit.
Speaker 1:Oh, good to know. Good to know. Thank you so much, Jill. My pleasure, Debra. Thank you. I hope you enjoyed this episode featuring my guest, Deborah Thunderbeat. Make sure that you download her CDs and download this episode, subscribe, share and give us a five-star review. This is Cosmic Scene, with Jill Jardine sending powerful cosmic vibrations through the quantum field.