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ya."},{"speaker":"Ursula Griffen","startTime":2907.295,"endTime":2907.515,"body":"Bye."},{"speaker":"Ursula Griffen","startTime":2909.385,"endTime":2911.395,"body":"What did you like the"},{"speaker":"Ursula Griffen","startTime":2909.385,"endTime":2911.395,"body":"most about this episode?"},{"speaker":"Ursula Griffen","startTime":2911.605,"endTime":2914.665,"body":"Take a moment to think about what"},{"speaker":"Ursula Griffen","startTime":2911.605,"endTime":2914.665,"body":"change you can make in your life"},{"speaker":"Brian Berneman","startTime":2914.67,"endTime":2915.025,"body":"today."},{"speaker":"Brian Berneman","startTime":2915.625,"endTime":2919.555,"body":"Share your conscious action on social"},{"speaker":"Brian Berneman","startTime":2915.625,"endTime":2919.555,"body":"media using hashtag conscious action"},{"speaker":"Brian Berneman","startTime":2919.705,"endTime":2923.965,"body":"and tagging at conscious action and"},{"speaker":"Brian 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