We hope you enjoy our podcast! To help us grow, please subscribe to our podcast and follow us on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook and/or LinkedIn. It’s the best way we can keep bringing in quality guests.

Welcome to Business Over Drinks, one of the most unique podcasts you will find anywhere in the world helmed by two people from different walks of life.

The podcast is an extension of their real-life experiences as business owners, salaried employees and industry mavericks who made mistakes along the way and lived to talk about it.

WE’RE DRINKING:

• David: Glenfiddch on the rocks
• Terng: Brothers Best of the Zest Cider
• 
  

WE CHAT ABOUT:

• Reflections for 2024

Terng:

• 1. Why I don’t like the direction LinkedIn is moving: engagement isn’t everything
• 2. How I view work-life balance and the relationship in it
• 3. What I’m gonna do in 2025: get better use of generative AI & pick my partners and client a lot better

David:

• 1. Have absolute focus on one thing is key to success: look how Elon Mask did
• 2. The importance of sleep
• Our scores (10/10) for the past year
• *Hope 2025 will be a good year!

BONUSES:

Get a FREE audiobook and support our show by signing up for a free Audible trial here. Check out our book recommendations if you want to get inspired.

Listeners get 10% of David’s hilarious new book, Everyday A**holes, using the promo code BOD at checkout. Get a copy at everydayassholes.net.

Listeners get a free 30-minute consultation with Terng’s company, SYNC PR. Just mention this podcast when contacting them at syncpr.co

Interested in making your own podcast? Use this link to sign up to Buzzsprout and we all get a $20 Amazon gift card when you upgrade. 

FOLLOW BUSINESS OVER DRINKS:

FACEBOOK: https://www.facebook.com/businessoverdrinks/

LINKEDIN: https://www.linkedin.com/company/business-over-drinks

WEB: https://www.businessoverdrinks.com/

INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/businessoverdrinks/

YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCx-s2TNu_21TNDSMJtP87eQ

PODCASTS: Search 'Business Over Drinks' on Spotify or Apple Podcasts

About our podcast

Business over drinks is one of the most unique podcasts you will find anywhere in the world helmed by two people from different walks of life.

This entrepreneur podcast is an extension of their real-life experiences as business owners, salaried employees and industry mavericks who made mistakes along the way and lived to talk about it.

Read our best business books, or browse our wine guide or gin guide.

We hope you enjoy our podcast! To help us grow, please subscribe to our podcast and follow us on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook and/or LinkedIn. It’s the best way we can keep bringing in quality guests.

Welcome to Business Over Drinks, one of the most unique podcasts you will find anywhere in the world helmed by two people from different walks of life.

The podcast is an extension of their real-life experiences as business owners, salaried employees and industry mavericks who made mistakes along the way and lived to talk about it.

WE CHAT ABOUT:

• Insights and humor about presidential debates and their relevance in today's media.
• The awkwardness and humor in workplace scenarios involving racial profiling.
• David and Terng's personal experiences with racism in business.
• How to navigate and address uncomfortable situations at work.
• The evolution of workplace diversity and inclusion policies.
• Balancing professionalism and humor in sensitive discussions.

BONUSES:

Get a FREE audiobook and support our show by signing up for a free Audible trial here. Check out our book recommendations if you want to get inspired.

Listeners get 10% of David’s hilarious new book, Everyday A**holes, using the promo code BOD at checkout. Get a copy at everydayassholes.net.

Listeners get a free 30-minute consultation with Terng’s company, SYNC PR. Just mention this podcast when contacting them at syncpr.co

Interested in making your own podcast? Use this link to sign up to Buzzsprout and we all get a $20 Amazon gift card when you upgrade. 

FOLLOW BUSINESS OVER DRINKS:

FACEBOOK: https://www.facebook.com/businessoverdrinks/

LINKEDIN: https://www.linkedin.com/company/business-over-drinks

WEB: https://www.businessoverdrinks.com/

INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/businessoverdrinks/

YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCx-s2TNu_21TNDSMJtP87eQ

PODCASTS: Search 'Business Over Drinks' on Spotify or Apple Podcasts

About our podcast

Business over drinks is one of the most unique podcasts you will find anywhere in the world helmed by two people from different walks of life.

This entrepreneur podcast is an extension of their real-life experiences as business owners, salaried employees and industry mavericks who made mistakes along the way and lived to talk about it.

Read our best business books, or browse our wine guide or gin guide.

We hope you enjoy our podcast! To help us grow, please subscribe to our podcast and follow us on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook and/or LinkedIn. It’s the best way we can keep bringing in quality guests.

Welcome to Business Over Drinks, one of the most unique podcasts you will find anywhere in the world helmed by two people from different walks of life.

The podcast is an extension of their real-life experiences as business owners, salaried employees and industry mavericks who made mistakes along the way and lived to talk about it.

WE’RE DRINKING:

• David: A cup of water from a broken glass
• Terng: Grapefruit Chu-Hi, a Japanese vodka-based alcohol https://shopee.sg/Suntory-Strong-Zero-Double-Grapefruit-Chu-Hi-Can-350ml-Japanese--i.91799978.22748729784 

WE CHAT ABOUT:

• Singapore's EV Infrastructure: The discussion highlights the underdeveloped charging infrastructure for electric vehicles in Singapore.
• Brand Trust & Content: The importance of building brand trust through effective content creation for consumers.
• Brand Personality vs. Company Identity: Whether a brand should be built around a personality or the company itself.
• Examples & Influencers: The episode references various figures like Steve Jobs (Apple), Tim Cook (Apple), Elon Musk (Tesla, SpaceX), Gary Vaynerchuk (entrepreneur), Alex Hormozi (entrepreneur), Tony Robbins (motivational speaker), Dave Ramsey (finance guru), Dundee (gym owner), and Colonel Sanders (KFC founder)

BONUSES:

Get a FREE audiobook and support our show by signing up for a free Audible trial here. Check out our book recommendations if you want to get inspired.

Listeners get 10% of David’s hilarious new book, Everyday A**holes, using the promo code BOD at checkout. Get a copy at everydayassholes.net.

Listeners get a free 30-minute consultation with Terng’s company, SYNC PR. Just mention this podcast when contacting them at syncpr.co

Interested in making your own podcast? Use this link to sign up to Buzzsprout and we all get a $20 Amazon gift card when you upgrade. 

About our podcast

Business over drinks is one of the most unique podcasts you will find anywhere in the world helmed by two people from different walks of life.

This entrepreneur podcast is an extension of their real-life experiences as business owners, salaried employees and industry mavericks who made mistakes along the way and lived to talk about it.

Read our best business books, or browse our wine guide or gin guide.

We hope you enjoy our podcast! To help us grow, please subscribe to our podcast and follow us on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook and/or LinkedIn. It’s the best way we can keep bringing in quality guests.

WE SPEAK TO: Elton Lim

Elton has had quite a journey so far, from his early days as a student to becoming a successful entrepreneur. We know Elton best as the founder of Break the Box Services, a rapidly growing digital marketing agency in Malaysia. Starting his journey at the age of 18, Elton has built a successful business helping SMEs, entrepreneurs, and companies with their digital marketing needs. In this episode, we chat with Elton about his experiences, the challenges he’s faced, and his insights into the ever-evolving world of marketing.

LinkedIn | Instagram | Youtube | Website   

WE CHAT ABOUT:

• Elton's Entrepreneurial Journey: From quitting his job in a hair salon distribution company to founding Break the Box Services.
• Challenges and Triumphs: The highs and lows of running a digital marketing agency, including payment delays and dealing with difficult clients.
• The Impact of AI on Marketing: How AI is changing the landscape of digital marketing and content creation.
• Social Media Strategies: The evolution of social media marketing and what it takes to create quality content in today's saturated market.
• Personal Insights and Advice: Elton's philosophy on failing fast, learning quickly, and not overthinking decisions in business and life.
• Book Recommendations: Valuable books that have influenced Elton's journey, including "Surrounded by Idiots," "Rich Dad Poor Dad," and "The 5 AM Club."
• Podcast Recommendation: A recommended episode of Elton's podcast, "Oddinary," focusing on inspiring stories of unconventional success. 

BOOKS:

Surrounded By Idiots by Thomas Erikson - 

Rich Dad Poor Dad by Robert Kiyosaki -

The 5 AM Club by Robin Sharma - https://amzn.to/3WSBAww

Visit our book recommendations section for more books from our guests

About our podcast

Business over drinks is one of the most unique podcasts you will find anywhere in the world helmed by two people from different walks of life.

This entrepreneur podcast is an extension of their real-life experiences as business owners, salaried employees and industry mavericks who made mistakes along the way and lived to talk about it.

Read our best business books, or browse our wine guide or gin guide.

We hope you enjoy our podcast! To help us grow, please subscribe to our podcast and follow us on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook and/or LinkedIn. It’s the best way we can keep bringing in quality guests.

Welcome to Business Over Drinks, one of the most unique podcasts you will find anywhere in the world helmed by two people from different walks of life.

The podcast is an extension of their real-life experiences as business owners, salaried employees and industry mavericks who made mistakes along the way and lived to talk about it.

WE’RE DRINKING:

• David: Two Stacks Irish Whiskey
• Terng: Gin and soda

WE CHAT ABOUT:

In this episode, David and Terng debate a hot-button topic: do you really have to be evil for your business to truly succeed? Reflect with the duo on the reality of entrepreneurship and the inherent nature of profit-driven capitalism; is it evil or is it a lack of caring? Ruminate on the extent of the responsibilities of a business owner when it comes to running a business successfully.

BONUSES:

Use code “BUSINESSOVERDRINKS” to get a $110 discount on your first year of Motley Fool Stock Advisor (NP: $199/year) or visit zen.ai/businessfool to find out more

Get a FREE audiobook and support our show by signing up for a free Audible trial here. Check out our book recommendations if you want to get inspired.

Listeners get 10% off David’s hilarious new book, Everyday A**holes, using the promo code BOD at checkout. Get a copy at everydayassholes.net.

Listeners get a free 30-minute consultation with Terng’s company, SYNC PR. Just mention this podcast when contacting them at syncpr.co

Looking to up your email game? Try Moosend.

Interested in making your own podcast? Use this link to sign up to Buzzsprout and we all get a $20 Amazon gift card when you upgrade. 

Looking to hire a full team of creative designers for a flat monthly fee. Visit DotYeti today! 

About our podcast

Business over drinks is one of the most unique podcasts you will find anywhere in the world helmed by two people from different walks of life.

This entrepreneur podcast is an extension of their real-life experiences as business owners, salaried employees and industry mavericks who made mistakes along the way and lived to talk about it.

Read our best business books, or browse our wine guide or gin guide.

We hope you enjoy our entrepreneur podcast! To help us grow, please subscribe to our podcast and follow us on TikTok, YouTube, Instagram, Facebook and/or LinkedIn. It’s the best way we can keep bringing in quality guests.

Welcome to Business Over Drinks, one of the most unique podcasts you will find anywhere in the world helmed by two people from different walks of life.

This entrepreneur podcast is an extension of their real-life experiences as business owners, salaried employees and industry mavericks who made mistakes along the way and lived to talk about it.

WE CHAT ABOUT:

David and Terng discuss the hidden side of side hustles, drawing from their experience of seeing and meeting other entrepreneurs over the years. They also talk about what side hustles have worked for them and their advice for those seeking to start a business for a side income. 

PROMOTION:

Use code “BUSINESSOVERDRINKS” to get a $110 discount on your first year of Motley Fool Stock Advisor (NP: $199/year) or visit zen.ai/businessfool to find out more

Get a FREE audiobook and support our show by signing up to a free Audible trial here: https://www.audible.com.au/bod011-20

Check out amazing (and collector’s) selections of gin and whiskey from Gin Loot and Whiskey Loot at Liquor Loot.

Listeners get 10% of David’s hilarious new book, Everyday A**holes, using the promo code BOD at checkout. Get a copy at everydayassholes.net.

Looking to up your email game? Try Moosend.

Interested in making your own podcast? Use this link to sign up to Buzzsprout and we all get a $20 Amazon gift card when you upgrade. 

Looking to hire a full team of creative designers for a flat monthly fee. Visit DotYeti today! 

About our podcast

Business over drinks is one of the most unique podcasts you will find anywhere in the world helmed by two people from different walks of life.

This entrepreneur podcast is an extension of their real-life experiences as business owners, salaried employees and industry mavericks who made mistakes along the way and lived to talk about it.

Read our best business books, or browse our wine guide or gin guide.

We hope you enjoy our entrepreneur podcast! To help us grow, please subscribe to our podcast and follow us on TikTok, YouTube, Instagram, Facebook and/or LinkedIn. It’s the best way we can keep bringing in quality guests.

Welcome to Business Over Drinks, one of the most unique podcasts you will find anywhere in the world helmed by two people from different walks of life.

This entrepreneur podcast is an extension of their real-life experiences as business owners, salaried employees and industry mavericks who made mistakes along the way and lived to talk about it.

WE CHAT ABOUT:

David and Terng share their lessons and reflections from the past year and how they have changed, hopefully for the better. From focusing on their main creative or professional journey to developing a measured response as they mature, learn more about what the hosts have learned in 2023.

PROMOTION:

Use code “BUSINESSOVERDRINKS” to get a $110 discount on your first year of Motley Fool Stock Advisor (NP: $199/year) or visit zen.ai/businessfool to find out more

Check out amazing (and collector’s) selections of gin and whiskey from Gin Loot and Whiskey Loot at Liquor Loot.

Listeners get 10% of David’s hilarious new book, Everyday A**holes, using the promo code BOD at checkout. Get a copy at everydayassholes.net.

Listeners get a free 30-minute consultation with Terng’s company, SYNC PR. Just mention this podcast when contacting them at syncpr.co

Looking to up your email game? Try Moosend.

Interested in making your own podcast? Use this link to sign up to Buzzsprout and we all get a $20 Amazon gift card when you upgrade. 

Looking to hire a full team of creative designers for a flat monthly fee. Visit DotYeti today! 

About our podcast

Business over drinks is one of the most unique podcasts you will find anywhere in the world helmed by two people from different walks of life.

This entrepreneur podcast is an extension of their real-life experiences as business owners, salaried employees and industry mavericks who made mistakes along the way and lived to talk about it.

Read our best business books, or browse our wine guide or gin guide.

We hope you enjoy our entrepreneur podcast! To help us grow, please subscribe to our podcast and follow us on TikTok, YouTube, Instagram, Facebook and/or LinkedIn. It’s the best way we can keep bringing in quality guests.

Welcome to Business Over Drinks, one of the most unique podcasts you will find anywhere in the world helmed by two people from different walks of life.

This entrepreneur podcast is an extension of their real-life experiences as business owners, salaried employees and industry mavericks who made mistakes along the way and lived to talk about it.

WE CHAT ABOUT:

David and Terng discuss potential new business opportunities in a hypothetical scenario when all else fails. From AI consultancy, trading and odd jobs to discussions of becoming billionaires, the duo shares their thoughts on what businesses they think might work for them now should they find themselves starting again from the ground up.

PROMOTION:

Get a FREE audiobook and support our show by signing up to a free Audible trial here: https://www.audible.com.au/bod011-20

Check out amazing (and collector’s) selections of gin and whiskey from Gin Loot and Whiskey Loot at Liquor Loot.

Listeners get 10% of David’s hilarious new book, Everyday A**holes, using the promo code BOD at checkout. Get a copy at everydayassholes.net.

Looking to up your email game? Try Moosend.

Interested in making your own podcast? Use this link to sign up to Buzzsprout and we all get a $20 Amazon gift card when you upgrade. 

Looking to hire a full team of creative designers for a flat monthly fee. Visit DotYeti today! 

About our podcast

Business over drinks is one of the most unique podcasts you will find anywhere in the world helmed by two people from different walks of life.

This entrepreneur podcast is an extension of their real-life experiences as business owners, salaried employees and industry mavericks who made mistakes along the way and lived to talk about it.

Read our best business books, or browse our wine guide or gin guide.

This entrepreneur podcast is an extension of their real-life experiences as business owners, salaried employees and industry mavericks who made mistakes along the way and lived to talk about it.

WE SPEAK TO: Strife Lim of Sterra

Strife Lim has worn many different hats throughout his young life; from his studying days in engineering to his interesting entrepreneurial journey, we know Strife best as one of the co-founders of Sterra, one of Singapore’s fastest-growing consumer electronic goods companies. With an impressive $11 million advertising budget built up over a short couple of years since its inception, Strife is a proponent of paid advertising and marketing for its countless benefits for brand awareness and increased revenue. We sat down to pick his brain on the journey of mastering paid advertisement strategies, his journey in making necessary entrepreneurial mistakes and how he contributed to Sterra’s commercial success online. 

WE’RE DRINKING:

• David: Australian red wine, Margaret River’s Cabernet Sauvignon
• Terng: Vodka, lime and soda
• Strife: Your run-off-the-mill water

WE CHAT ABOUT:

• How Strife and his Sterra co-founder, Chris, actually started their entrepreneurial journey before Sterra, including their highly profitable T-shirt printing and selling journey
• Why the duo shifted markets during their exploration and experimentation journey to find Sterra
• The synergy between Strife and Chris, especially in their role and workload divisions in their work, and how to handle the communications between stakeholders to sustain a thriving business
• Managing a large marketing and advertisement budget, and how to grow revenue from paid advertisements alone
• The effectiveness of paid advertising and how to invest in paid advertisements cleverly
• Ways to measure the effectiveness and success of paid advertisements
• Preferences in terms of platforms for advertisement placements, particularly intrusive or interrupting ads and how it has been beneficial to the growth of the brand
• The agility and benefits of online marketing and advertising
• How Sterra succeeded in rapidly growing its brand awareness and revenue, and what sets its strategy apart from other companies and businesses
• The importance of paid advertising, but at the same time how to work around spending money on advertising and marketing
• What makes a good advertisement and some effective strategies for attracting viewers’ attention
• Opinions about influencer marketing, and how it can impact brand image
• What Strife would do better or differently in hindsight

GUEST’S BOOK RECOMMENDATIONS:

Think and Grow Rich by Napoleon Hill - https://amzn.to/3SCPpNq
The 10X Rule by Grant Cardone - https://amzn.to/3QUed26
5 AM Club by Robin Sharma - https://amzn.to/3uiz

About our podcast

Business over drinks is one of the most unique podcasts you will find anywhere in the world helmed by two people from different walks of life.

This entrepreneur podcast is an extension of their real-life experiences as business owners, salaried employees and industry mavericks who made mistakes along the way and lived to talk about it.

Read our best business books, or browse our wine guide or gin guide.

We hope you enjoy our book summary of Atomic Habits by James Clear! To help us grow, please subscribe to our podcast and follow us on TikTok, YouTube, Instagram, Facebook and/or LinkedIn. It’s the best way we can keep bringing in quality guests.

Welcome to Business Over Drinks, one of the most unique podcasts you will find anywhere in the world helmed by two people from different walks of life.

This entrepreneur podcast is an extension of their real-life experiences as business owners, salaried employees and industry mavericks who made mistakes along the way and lived to talk about it.

WE CHAT ABOUT:

Terng shares with David his take on his recent read, Atomic Habits – written by James Clear – and its “laws” for adopting life-changing habits, one little step at a time. The hosts relate the self-help book’s tips to their everyday lives, and how the core message of the book resonated with them.

BOOKS MENTIONED IN THE CONVERSATION:

1. Atomic Habits: An Easy & Proven Way to Build Good Habits & Break Bad Ones by James Clear (https://amzn.to/492x6Hn)
2. The Slight Edge: Turning Simple Disciplines into Massive Success and Happiness by Jeff Olson and John David Mann (https://amzn.to/3Mij7TQ) 

PROMOTION:

Use code “BUSINESSOVERDRINKS” to get a $110 discount on your first year of Motley Fool Stock Advisor (NP: $199/year) or visit zen.ai/businessfool to find out more

Check out amazing (and collector’s) selections of gin and whiskey from Gin Loot and Whiskey Loot at Liquor Loot.

Listeners get 10% of David’s hilarious new book, Everyday A**holes, using the promo code BOD at checkout. Get a copy at everydayassholes.net.

Listeners get a free 30-minute consultation with Terng’s company, SY

About our podcast

Business over drinks is one of the most unique podcasts you will find anywhere in the world helmed by two people from different walks of life.

This entrepreneur podcast is an extension of their real-life experiences as business owners, salaried employees and industry mavericks who made mistakes along the way and lived to talk about it.

Read our best business books, or browse our wine guide or gin guide.

We hope you enjoy our entrepreneur podcast! To help us grow, please subscribe to our podcast and follow us on TikTok, YouTube, Instagram, Facebook and/or LinkedIn. It’s the best way we can keep bringing in quality guests.

Welcome to Business Over Drinks, one of the most unique podcasts you will find anywhere in the world helmed by two people from different walks of life.

This entrepreneur podcast is an extension of their real-life experiences as business owners, salaried employees and industry mavericks who made mistakes along the way and lived to talk about it.

WE’RE DRINKING:

• David: Borgo San Leo Prosecco
• Terng: Jinro x Sunkist Orangeade Sour

WE CHAT ABOUT:

• We did our first live and in-person interview with Shaneal Sharma
• The potential of AI taking over jobs in marketing, content writing, etc and our opinions about the conversations surrounding AI
• Some AI content development tools we use in our everyday processes to supplement our tasks
• Issues people are currently facing when using AI tools
• Quality vs quantity with content generation in the age of AI
• The legality of data sharing and usage with AI, which remembers everything

PROMOTION:

Use code “BUSINESSOVERDRINKS” to get a $110 discount on your first year of Motley Fool Stock Advisor (NP: $199/year) or visit zen.ai/businessfool to find out more

Get a FREE audiobook and support our show by signing up to a free Audible trial here: https://www.audible.com.au/bod011-20

Check out amazing (and collector’s) selections of gin and whiskey from Gin Loot and Whiskey Loot at Liquor Loot.

Listeners get 10% of David’s hilarious new book, Everyday A**holes, using the promo code BOD at checkout. Get a copy at everydayassholes.net.

Listeners get a free 30-minute consultation with Terng’s company, SYNC PR. Just mention this podcast when contacting them at syncpr.co

Looking to up your email game? Try Moosend.

Interested in making your own podcast?

About our podcast

Business over drinks is one of the most unique podcasts you will find anywhere in the world helmed by two people from different walks of life.

This entrepreneur podcast is an extension of their real-life experiences as business owners, salaried employees and industry mavericks who made mistakes along the way and lived to talk about it.

Read our best business books, or browse our wine guide or gin guide.

We hope you enjoy our entrepreneur podcast! To help us grow, please subscribe to our podcast and follow us on TikTok, YouTube, Instagram, Facebook and/or LinkedIn. It’s the best way we can keep bringing in quality guests.

WE SPEAK TO: Kai Yuan Neo

Meet Kai, a software engineer, Stanford graduate, and founder and CEO of Rocket Academy, an online coding boot camp started and based in Singapore. With his impressive background in software engineering, from an internship at Facebook and AliBaba Cloud, to working with startups in America and Southeast Asia, Kai started Rocket Academy after witnessing a gap in the software engineering talent market. 

Other than his goal to equip talents with relevant tools that are in demand in the industry and job market, Rocket Academy also strives to provide an avenue for those without a tertiary education in Computer Science to switch careers and kickstart their journey into software engineering. 

With a splendid record of 100% success rate in getting employment offers for their graduates, Kai believes in giving back to his community by drawing on his experience to provide not only academic support but also moral support and employability skills to Rocket Academy’s graduates to ensure their success.

LinkedIn | Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | YouTube

WE’RE DRINKING:

• David - Prosecco
• Terng - Whiskey
• Kai - herbal drink for his cough 

WE CHAT ABOUT:

• Why Kai chose to start an EdTech company
• The increasing demand for software engineers vs the gap in skills in talents
• The future of software technology hiring trend
• Why Kai is optimistic about the future of hiring in the computer science industry in the age of AI like ChatGPT
• How does Rocket Academy achieve the 100% employability rate
• Rocket Academy’s approach on their education model and their priorities
• Theory-centric courses vs Project-centric courses in tertiary education
• Lessons in the Space Jam movie
• Kai’s experience interning at Meta and Alibaba Cloud and how that influenced the courses in Rocket Academy
• Kai’s input on Elon Musk’s doomsday outlook on the future of AI
• What kind of resources and what kind of talent is needed to create AI products
• Kai’s life advice for budding entrepreneurs 

GUEST’S BOOK RECOMMENDATIONS:

1. Robert Kuok, a Memoir

Author : Robert Kuok & Andrew Tanzer

1. Shoe Dog: A Memoir by the Creator of Nike

Author: Phil Knight

1. The Ride of a

About our podcast

Business over drinks is one of the most unique podcasts you will find anywhere in the world helmed by two people from different walks of life.

This entrepreneur podcast is an extension of their real-life experiences as business owners, salaried employees and industry mavericks who made mistakes along the way and lived to talk about it.

Read our best business books, or browse our wine guide or gin guide.

We hope you enjoy our entrepreneur podcast! To help us grow, please subscribe to our podcast and follow us on TikTok, YouTube, Instagram, Facebook and/or LinkedIn. It’s the best way we can keep bringing in quality guests.

Welcome to Business Over Drinks, one of the most unique podcasts you will find anywhere in the world helmed by two people from different walks of life.

Today we have a special episode where David visits Shaneal’s latest property development, Woody Point Marketplace, in person.

WE SPEAK TO: Shaneal Sharma

Shaneal is a technology visionary and inventor of patented property technology Transactor which has transacted over $6B worth of real estate. He recently purchased a strip mall called Woody Point Marketplace and transformed it into a vibrant community hub. He is also behind the franchise Oh Gelato, as well as Eat Pizza Co.

His skillset and talent was developed early in his career in the entertainment industry. 

Based between LA, U.K and Asia he produced, wrote and performed as a recording artist scoring 4 top ten global hits whilst simultaneously building software and investing in property.

WE CHAT ABOUT:

• How to get the money to develop a project like Woody Point Marketplace
• Starting small to develop big
• How to deal with property development stress
• How to manage people
• Why successful people welcome problems
• Shaneal’s ‘Creating’ podcast
• Taking on a ‘serious’ development
• Our first interview with Shaneal on real estate investing in today’s market

PROMOTION:

Get $110 OFF Motley Fool Stock Advisor here: https://zen.ai/businessfool. Use promo code BUSINESSOVERDRINKS to get their Stock Advisor from just $1.71 per week.

Get a FREE audiobook and support our show by signing up to a free Audible trial here: https://www.audible.com.au/bod011-20

Get up to 50% off designer glasses with SmartBuyGlasses

Check out amazing (and collector’s) selections of gin and whiskey from Gin Loot and

About our podcast

Business over drinks is one of the most unique podcasts you will find anywhere in the world helmed by two people from different walks of life.

This entrepreneur podcast is an extension of their real-life experiences as business owners, salaried employees and industry mavericks who made mistakes along the way and lived to talk about it.

Read our best business books, or browse our wine guide or gin guide.

About our podcast

Business over drinks is one of the most unique podcasts you will find anywhere in the world helmed by two people from different walks of life.

This entrepreneur podcast is an extension of their real-life experiences as business owners, salaried employees and industry mavericks who made mistakes along the way and lived to talk about it.

Read our best business books, or browse our wine guide or gin guide.

We hope you enjoy our entrepreneur podcast! To help us grow, please subscribe to our podcast and follow us on TikTok, YouTube, Instagram, Facebook and/or LinkedIn. It’s the best way we can keep bringing in quality guests.

Welcome to Business Over Drinks, one of the most unique podcasts you will find anywhere in the world helmed by two people from different walks of life.

This entrepreneur podcast is an extension of their real-life experiences as business owners, salaried employees and industry mavericks who made mistakes along the way and lived to talk about it.

WE CHAT ABOUT:

• In this special entrepreneur podcast we talk about what it actually means to make a million dollars. You may see a lot of influencers online talking about the ‘millionaire lifestyle’, but what’s reality like? If you’ve been searching for tips on how to be a millionaire, this entrepreneur podcast episode may give you some honest insights.

BOOKS:

• Visit our book recommendations section for more books from our guests: 

PROMOTION:

Get a FREE audiobook and support our show by signing up to a free Audible trial here: https://www.audible.com.au/bod011-20

Get up to 50% off designer glasses with SmartBuyGlasses

Check out amazing (and collector’s) selections of gin and whiskey from Gin Loot and Whiskey Loot at Liquor Loot.

Listeners get 10% of David’s hilarious new book, Everyday A**holes, using the promo code BOD at checkout. Get a copy at everydayassholes.net.

Listeners get a free 30-minute consultation with Terng’s company, SYNC PR. Just mention this podcast when contacting them at syncpr.co

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About our podcast

Business over drinks is one of the most unique podcasts you will find anywhere in the world helmed by two people from different walks of life.

This entrepreneur podcast is an extension of their real-life experiences as business owners, salaried employees and industry mavericks who made mistakes along the way and lived to talk about it.

Read our best business books, or browse our wine guide or gin guide.

We hope you enjoy our entrepreneur podcast! To help us grow, please subscribe to our podcast and follow us on TikTok, YouTube, Instagram, Facebook and/or LinkedIn. It’s the best way we can keep bringing in quality guests.

Welcome to Business Over Drinks.

WE SPEAK TO: Ling Yah 

Meet Ling Yah, a lawyer, podcaster, newsletter writer and YouTuber. With 8+ years of experience as a lawyer, Ling has also become a successful content creator, ranking #2 for the This is My Why Podcast in Malaysia and Singapore for Business & Careers on Apple Podcast. With over 33k downloads, 35+ countries reached and 13k+ followers, Ling's content continues to grow and inspire.

Despite not having it all figured out, Ling has had some serendipitous moments in her career. She hiked to Everest Base Camp in March 2020, only to be stuck in the Himalayas during the world's lockdown. She also landed her podcast on the Late Late Show with James Corden multiple times and even attended the show's final London taping.

Ling's "Monday Reflection" LinkedIn post reached an impressive 617k impressions, and she was even offered a book deal with a prestigious publishing house.

WE’RE DRINKING:

• David: Jack Daniel’s Can Cocktail - Apple Fizz 
• Terng: Peroni Nastro Azzurro Premium Lager
• Ling Yah: Tea with her specially branded cup

WE CHAT ABOUT:

• Tips on hacking the Linkedin Algorithm
• The strategy behind writing a Linkedin post
• Reasons to attend a networking event to meet interesting individuals 
• More about Ling Yah’s recent book deal and how she got it simply by posting on Linkedin
• Our interview with Yolanda Lee from Uncommon
• Juggling between being a lawyer and everything else
• What is Ling Yah trying to accomplish?
• Most memorable guest on the “This is My Why” podcast 
• Experience hiking the Mount Everest base camp 
• Major lessons after working on the podcast 
• Top 3 lessons learnt in Ling Yah’s career for listeners/viewers

BOOKS:

• The Third Door: The Wild Quest to Uncover How the World's Most Successful People Launched Their Careers by Alex Banayan 
• The Minimalist Entrepreneur: How Great Founders Do More with Less by Sahil Lavingia 
• The Brand Story

Visit our book recommendations section for more.

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About our podcast

Business over drinks is one of the most unique podcasts you will find anywhere in the world helmed by two people from different walks of life.

This entrepreneur podcast is an extension of their real-life experiences as business owners, salaried employees and industry mavericks who made mistakes along the way and lived to talk about it.

Read our best business books, or browse our wine guide or gin guide.

We hope you enjoy our entrepreneur podcast! To help us grow, please subscribe to our podcast and follow us on TikTok, YouTube, Instagram, Facebook and/or LinkedIn. It’s the best way we can keep bringing in quality guests.

Welcome to Business Over Drinks, one of the most unique podcasts you will find anywhere in the world helmed by two people from different walks of life.

WE SPEAK TO: Leigh Travers

About Leigh Travers

Leigh Travers is the former Chief Executive of local blockchain technology and payments firm DigitalX.

Leigh is currently working on growing crypto adoption in Australia as CEO of Binance Australia. Binance Australia is a compliant and progressive Australian fintech that empowers customers and corporate institutions to access alternative, low-cost digital assets and products. Since Leigh has joined Binance Australia, the business has grown to over 1m Australian clients and has launched Binance Australia Derivatives to offer wholesale clients crypto derivatives.

WE’RE DRINKING:

• Leigh: Coffee from Shelter Cafe in Lennox 
• David: Green tea, as recommended by Jace Tan 
• Terng: Water (because he has ‘important meetings’ apparently)

WE CHAT ABOUT:

1. How Leigh got the role of CEO of Binance Australia? 
2. Why Leigh thinks people should still trust crypto, even in this bearish market?
3. Using crypto for money transfers
4. What do you think about netizens pumping and dumping crypto?
5. How Binance remains a market leader

And much more. Visit businessoverdrinks.com for the full notes and to sign up to our newsletter. 

BINANCE: FIND OUT MORE

• Sign up to the Binance Queensland roadshow
• Sign up to Binance and receive 100 USDT Trading Fee Credit (TnCs Apply)
• Binance Australia Instagram
• Binance Australia Twitter
• Leigh Travers Twitter

GUEST’S BOOK RECOMMENDATIONS:

• Built to Last
• The Five Love Languages
• CZ’s Book Recommendations

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About our podcast

Business over drinks is one of the most unique podcasts you will find anywhere in the world helmed by two people from different walks of life.

This entrepreneur podcast is an extension of their real-life experiences as business owners, salaried employees and industry mavericks who made mistakes along the way and lived to talk about it.

Read our best business books, or browse our wine guide or gin guide.

We hope you enjoy our entrepreneur podcast! To help us grow, please subscribe to our podcast and follow us on TikTok, YouTube, Instagram, Facebook and/or LinkedIn. It’s the best way we can keep bringing in quality guests.

Welcome to Business Over Drinks, one of the most unique entrepreneur podcasts you will find anywhere in the world helmed by two people from different walks of life.

WE SPEAK TO: Yolanda Lee

Yolanda is the founder and CEO of Uncommon, Asia's first private leadership network for the next generation of female leaders.

Prior to this, she led the international consumer partnerships team across Asia Pacific and the Middle East at Deliveroo. She also built Deliveroo’s corporate solutions offering as the Head of Business. Deliveroo is an online food delivery company available across 200 cities globally.

Before joining Deliveroo in Singapore, Yolanda worked in Africa as the Regional Partnerships Manager for Uber and the Regional Managing Director at HelloFood under Rocket Internet GmbH. Originally from Canada, Yolanda has lived and worked in every single continent, with an exception for South America, and she counts Singapore as her 10th home.

WE’RE DRINKING:

• David: Jack Daniels Apple Fizz 
• Terng: Water
• Yolanda: Leftover Italian Red Wine 

GUEST’S BOOK RECOMMENDATIONS:

• Unbearable lightness of being - Kundera
• We should all be feminists -  Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie
• Women in power - a manifesto - Mary Beard

Visit our book recommendations section for more books from our guests

PROMOTION:

Listeners get 10% of David’s hilarious new book, Everyday A**holes, using the promo code BOD at checkout. Get a copy at everydayassholes.net.

Listeners get a free 30-minute consultation with Terng’s company, SYNC PR. Just mention this podcast w

About our podcast

Business over drinks is one of the most unique podcasts you will find anywhere in the world helmed by two people from different walks of life.

This entrepreneur podcast is an extension of their real-life experiences as business owners, salaried employees and industry mavericks who made mistakes along the way and lived to talk about it.

Read our best business books, or browse our wine guide or gin guide.

Some QUICK TIPS for you WIN in 2023. What we learnt from some of our most successful guests and clients.

ABOUT BUSINESS OVER DRINKS

We hope you enjoy our entrepreneur podcast! To help us grow, please subscribe to our podcast and follow us on TikTok, YouTube, Instagram, Facebook and/or LinkedIn. It’s the best way we can keep bringing in quality guests.

Welcome to Business Over Drinks, one of the most unique podcasts you will find anywhere in the world helmed by two people from different walks of life.
This entrepreneur podcast is an extension of their real-life experiences as business owners, salaried employees and industry mavericks who made mistakes along the way and lived to talk about it.

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Listeners get 10% of David’s hilarious new book, Everyday A**holes, using the promo code BOD at checkout. Get a copy at everydayassholes.net.

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FACEBOOK: https://www.facebook.com/businessoverdrinks/

WEB: https://www.businessoverdrinks.com/

YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCx-s2TNu_21TNDSMJtP87eQ

PODCASTS: Search 'Business Over Drinks' on your favourite podcast player

About our podcast

Business over drinks is one of the most unique podcasts you will find anywhere in the world helmed by two people from different walks of life.

This entrepreneur podcast is an extension of their real-life experiences as business owners, salaried employees and industry mavericks who made mistakes along the way and lived to talk about it.

Read our best business books, or browse our wine guide or gin guide.

In this special book review episode David reviews The Life-Changing Magic of Tidying Up by Marie Kondo. In 9 minutes we’ll discuss the core principles of the book and how these principles can benefit busy and ambitious people, such as business people and entrepreneurs. 

Listen to / read the The Life-Changing Magic of Tidying Up by using this link, and support our show! https://amzn.to/3EDaU82

Check out our Books Section for more books recommended by our guests.

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About The Life-Changing Magic of Tidying Up (Amazon):

Live in a clean and clutter-free home forever with the life-changing KonMari Method - now a multi-million copy international best seller.

Transform your home into a permanently clear and clutter-free space with the incredible KonMari Method. Japan's expert declutterer and professional cleaner Marie Kondo will help you tidy your rooms once and for all with her inspirational step-by-step method. 

The key to successful tidying is to tackle your home in the correct order, to keep only the things you really love and to do it all at once - and quickly. After that for the rest of your life you need only to choose what to keep and what to discard. 

The KonMari Method will not just transform your space. Once you have your house in order, you will find that your whole life will change. You can feel more confident, you can become more successful, and you can have the energy and motivation to create the life you want. You will also have the courage to move on from the negative aspects of your life: you can recognise and finish a bad relationship; you can stop feeling anxious; you can finally lose weight. 

Marie Kondo's method is based on a 'once cleaned, never messy again' approach. If you think that such a thing is impossible, then you should definitely listen to this compelling audiobook.

ABOUT BUSINESS OVER DRINKS

We hope you enjoy our entrepreneur podcast! To help us grow, please subscribe to our podcast and follow us on TikTok, YouTube, Instagram, Facebook and/or LinkedIn. It’s the best way we can keep bringing in quality guests.

PROMOTION:

Listeners get 10% of David’s hilarious new book, Everyday A**holes, using the promo code BOD at checkout. Get a copy at everydayassholes.net.

Listeners get a free 30-minute consultation with Terng’s company, SYNC PR. Just mention this podcast when contacting them at syncpr.co

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Interested in making your own podcast?

About our podcast

Business over drinks is one of the most unique podcasts you will find anywhere in the world helmed by two people from different walks of life.

This entrepreneur podcast is an extension of their real-life experiences as business owners, salaried employees and industry mavericks who made mistakes along the way and lived to talk about it.

Read our best business books, or browse our wine guide or gin guide.

We hope you enjoy our entrepreneur podcast! To help us grow, please subscribe to our podcast and follow us on TikTok, YouTube, Instagram, Facebook and/or LinkedIn. It’s the best way we can keep bringing in quality guests.

Welcome to Business Over Drinks, one of the most unique podcasts you will find anywhere in the world helmed by two people from different walks of life.

WE SPEAK TO: Jace Tan 

Doctor Jace Tan is the founder of Tan Chiro - a leading chiropractor in north Brisbane. 

Starting from a small space north of Brisbane, she’s had to quickly upgrade to a much bigger location and now has a small team helping her with this immense growth - all within a year. She also has a long list of loyal clients, which is a great indicator of the quality of what she offers. 

DRINKS:

• David: Winesmith Organic Chardonnay
• Terng: Suntory Strong Zero Triple Grape Flavour 
• Jace: Glenlivet whiskey 

WE CHAT ABOUT:

• Jace’s background and experience in Australia 
• The biggest culture shock of moving from Malaysia to Australia
• Crazy experience in Mongolia
• Working experience as a chiropractor
• Challenges of being a woman in the industry
• What made Jace decide to establish Tan Chiro
• Skepticism about the legitimacy of chiropractors and how Tan Chiro overcomes the challenge 
• Recommendation on exercise to improve productivity
• Challenges and failures when setting up Tan Chiro
• Our review and summary of Bob Iger’s Ride of a Lifetime 

FOLLOW JACE:

• Tan Chiro

GUEST’S BOOK RECOMMENDATIONS:

• Start with Why by Simon Sinek 
• Thinking fast and slow by Daniel Kahneman
• The disappearing spoon by Sam Kean 
• Visit our book recommendations section for more books from our guests

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About our podcast

Business over drinks is one of the most unique podcasts you will find anywhere in the world helmed by two people from different walks of life.

This entrepreneur podcast is an extension of their real-life experiences as business owners, salaried employees and industry mavericks who made mistakes along the way and lived to talk about it.

Read our best business books, or browse our wine guide or gin guide.

In this entrepreneur podcast episode of Business Over Drinks, we react to Chamath Palihapitiya talking about a startup scam in Indonesia (and Terng's experience in Singapore), the Deadpool 3 teaser lip read and mini goals on a Joe Rogan podcast.

TIKTOK: https://www.tiktok.com/@businessoverdrinks 
INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/businessoverdrinks/
LINKEDIN: https://www.linkedin.com/company/business-over-drinks
FACEBOOK: https://www.facebook.com/businessoverdrinks/
WEB: https://www.businessoverdrinks.com/
YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCx-s2TNu_21TNDSMJtP87eQ
PODCASTS: Search 'Business Over Drinks' on your favourite podcast player

About our podcast

Business over drinks is one of the most unique podcasts you will find anywhere in the world helmed by two people from different walks of life.

This entrepreneur podcast is an extension of their real-life experiences as business owners, salaried employees and industry mavericks who made mistakes along the way and lived to talk about it.

Read our best business books, or browse our wine guide or gin guide.

We hope you enjoy our entrepreneur podcast! To help us grow, please subscribe to our podcast and follow us on TikTok, YouTube, Instagram, Facebook and/or LinkedIn. It’s the best way we can keep bringing in quality guests.

This entrepreneur podcast is an extension of their real-life experiences as business owners, salaried employees and industry mavericks who made mistakes along the way and lived to talk about it.

WE SPEAK TO: James Puddle, CEO & Founder of One Global Group

In 2017 James spotted an opportunity in the marketplace and relocated with his family to Singapore, where he founded One Global Group, a boutique real estate agency business that specialises in international project marketing, headquartered in Singapore with regional offices located in Hong Kong & Kuala Lumpur as well as offices in Dubai, South Africa, London and regionally Birmingham.

DRINKS:

• David: Winesmiths Organic Chardonnay
• Terng: Coke Zero 
• James: Water  

WE CHAT ABOUT:

• A gap in the region’s real estate industry
• Why was Singapore chosen as the HQ 
• Registering a company in Singapore - the ease and hurdles faced 
• Benefits of setting up a company in Singapore
• Expanding and scaling the company 
• Issues faced when pivoting and adapting the business strategy
• How did One Global Group differentiate itself in the real estate industry
• What are property developers missing or doing wrong right now
• Tips for a successful marketing/sales strategy
• Is real estate still a good bet? 
• What kind of investment is highly volatile and has a chance of decreasing in value 
• Handling different timezones
• Advice for any aspiring entrepreneurs 
• The biggest misconception about life in Asia 
• Property tips for buyers 

GUEST’S BOOK RECOMMENDATIONS:

• Ninja Selling by Larry Kendall 
• War Doctor: Surgery on the front line by David Nott 
• The Wind Through the Keyhole by Stephen King
• Visit our book recommendations section for more books from our guests

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Listeners get 10% of David’s hilarious new book, Everyday A**holes, using the promo code BOD at checkout. Get a copy at everydayassholes.net.

Listeners get a free 30-minute consultation with Terng’s company, SYNC PR. Just mention this podcast when co

About our podcast

Business over drinks is one of the most unique podcasts you will find anywhere in the world helmed by two people from different walks of life.

This entrepreneur podcast is an extension of their real-life experiences as business owners, salaried employees and industry mavericks who made mistakes along the way and lived to talk about it.

Read our best business books, or browse our wine guide or gin guide.

We hope you enjoy our entrepreneur podcast! To help us grow, please subscribe to our podcast and follow us on TikTok, YouTube, Instagram, Facebook and/or LinkedIn. It’s the best way we can keep bringing in quality guests.

WE SPEAK TO: Amanda Cua 

Amanda Cua is the Founder and CEO of BackScoop, a free daily newsletter that makes it fun and easy to stay informed with everything Southeast Asian business and startups. Launched late last year, BackScoop is read by thousands of SEA's top founders, execs, VCs and startup operators. Born and raised in the Philippines, Amanda is 20 years old and was also previously the first employee at YC-backed edtech Avion School.

 DRINKING:

Special thanks to the crew at Winesmiths

• David: Winesmiths Organic Chardonnay 
• Terng: Winesmiths Organic Cabernet Sauvignon NV 
• Amanda: Remedy Peach Kombucha  

WE CHAT ABOUT:

• The start of Backscoop 
• Why was the newsletter the one thing you want to jump in 
• How do you plan to sustain the growth of the company with a limited budget? 
• How were you able to handle the fact no one else was doing the work for Backscoop at that point? 
• The role that Linkedin has played towards the growth of Backscoop 
• Tips on growing Linkedin and building a strong community 
• What kind of posts do well on Linkedin?
• Most unique entrepreneur mindset ever encountered
• Key business lessons learnt 
• Introduction to Backscoop 
• Visit our entrepreneur podcast website for more

GUEST’S BOOK RECOMMENDATIONS:

• The Lean Startup by Eric Ries 
• Mindset by Carol Dweck 
• Young China by Zac Dychtwald
• Visit our book recommendations section for more books from our guests

KEEP IN TOUCH WITH AMANDA

• BackScoop
• Amanda’s LinkedIn

PROMOTION:

Listeners get 10% of David’s hilarious new book, Everyday A**holes, using the promo code BOD at checkout. Get a copy at everydayassholes.net.

About our podcast

Business over drinks is one of the most unique podcasts you will find anywhere in the world helmed by two people from different walks of life.

This entrepreneur podcast is an extension of their real-life experiences as business owners, salaried employees and industry mavericks who made mistakes along the way and lived to talk about it.

Read our best business books, or browse our wine guide or gin guide.

Welcome to Business Over Drinks, one of the most unique podcasts you will find anywhere in the world helmed by two people from different walks of life.

WE SPEAK TO: Edmund Shern

Edmund is a 25 year veteran in entertainment and marketing working in Singapore, Hollywood, Tokyo and China. He started in MTV as the studio director and then went on to lead teams in OgilvyInteractive and in comics, games, anime and film. He co-authored a fantasy book with famed Final Fantasy artist, Yoshitaka Amano. He has worked and consulted for many of the major entertainment brands in licensing and transmedia strategy while serving as advisor/co-owner to micro-influencer marketing startup X10 Media. With the advent of Web3, he now has a new startup to produce music-based events and experiences in various metaverses while also developing their own music metaverse for music fans and artists. 

WE’RE DRINKING:

• David: Ampersand Project’s Ginger Beer 
• Terng: Peninsular Cider Alcoholic Ginger Beer 
• Edmund: Organic Kombucha with Mango Passion

WE CHAT ABOUT:

• Insight into the metaverse 
• Explanation of Web3 
• Existence of the p*rn metaverse?
• Inappropriate Roblox encounter 
• The future of metaverse 15:25 
• Experience economy
• Gather.town as a taste of the metaverse
• Surrogates with Bruce Wills 
• Building an online community with metaverse
• Producing musical projects on Roblox and Fortnight (32:05 - 
• BOD on Second Life?!?
• More on 99 misfits 

GUEST’S BOOK RECOMMENDATIONS:

• Ways of seeing by John Berger 
• Gary Vee’s Youtube Channel 
• Visit our book recommendations section for more books from our guests

FIND OUT MORE ABOUT OUR GUEST:

• 99 Misfits
• Velvet Engine 

PROMOTION:

Get a FREE audiobook and support our show by signing up to a free Audible trial here: https://www.audible.com.au/bod011-20

Listeners get 10% of David’s hilarious new book, Everyday A**holes, using the promo code BOD at checkout. Get a copy at everydayassholes.net.

Listeners get a free 30-minute consultation with Terng’s company, SYNC PR. Just mention this podcast when contacting them at syncpr.co

FOLLOW BUSINESS OVER DRINKS:

TIKTOK: https://www.tiktok.com/@businessoverdrinks 

INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/bus

About our podcast

Business over drinks is one of the most unique podcasts you will find anywhere in the world helmed by two people from different walks of life.

This entrepreneur podcast is an extension of their real-life experiences as business owners, salaried employees and industry mavericks who made mistakes along the way and lived to talk about it.

Read our best business books, or browse our wine guide or gin guide.