Rock and Roll All Nite - Kiss

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Transcript

00:41.51
Chibbs
This is 1001 Songs That Make You Want to Die, the podcast we talk about songs so bad they make you want to start breeding chihuahuas back into wolves.

00:51.15
Bevo
well

00:51.75
gav
yeah

00:53.51
Bevo
You know those Animorphs books where you'd like flip the book and on the little right-hand corner, they'd change from one to the other?

00:55.36
Chibbs
Yeah.

00:55.53
gav
Yes. Yes.

00:57.93
Chibbs
Yeah. Yeah. yeah

00:59.67
Bevo
Imagine the middle between a giraffe and a wolf.

01:02.93
Chibbs
I went through a phase where those memes were fucking hilarious. Like, it's like when I chew on my pencil and it's the Animorph turning into a beaver or something.

01:11.08
Bevo
Yeah, yeah.

01:11.34
Chibbs
Yeah.

01:12.90
gav
ah

01:13.05
Chibbs
Yeah.

01:14.15
gav
They were big for a while. that was a good trend.

01:15.23
Chibbs
That was good. That good.

01:16.26
gav
liked that.

01:16.31
Bevo
I'm um'm a big Animorphs fan. like I feel like they're dreadfully underrated books.

01:21.72
Chibbs
the I like the idea that to breed a chihuahua is back into wolves, that you have to just gradually have that chihuahua get fucked by a bigger and bigger, meaner dog.

01:31.92
gav
ah

01:33.17
Chibbs
And then kill off anything small and and and gentle.

01:35.33
Bevo
You wouldn't go straight to Wolf?

01:35.92
gav
yeah

01:37.41
Chibbs
like

01:37.87
gav
drown drown the Drown the nice ones in a bucket.

01:40.11
Chibbs
Yeah, yeah, until you just bring it back to wolves.

01:40.52
gav
Oh,

01:44.28
Chibbs
Yeah.

01:44.82
Bevo
Charles Darwin intended.

01:46.67
Chibbs
Yeah. Just drop them on the Galapagos Islands and just let them go.

01:48.82
gav
God.

01:51.02
Chibbs
Speaking of islands, doing Rock and Roll All Night KISS.

01:51.36
gav
Galapagos Island. Yeah.

01:54.58
Bevo
yeah

01:56.64
Chibbs
um

01:57.04
gav
Oh.

01:57.69
Chibbs
ah speaking of islands we are doing rock and roll all night by kiss

02:29.08
Bevo
All right, Kiss, we get it.

02:30.03
Chibbs
Yeah, yeah, we got it. Can I just say um off the bat that um I'm exhausted just listening to that, alone,

02:31.50
gav
uh

02:40.16
Bevo
What, in terms of like relating?

02:40.30
gav
but

02:41.72
Chibbs
like, just like, ah there are two things I don't want to do and this world.

02:47.44
Bevo
it's these.

02:48.63
Chibbs
and it's rock and roll a night and party every day.

02:51.31
gav
yeah yeah

02:51.69
Chibbs
Like, it's this is like I'm in the Billie Eilish territory here of like, oh, I thought it was just like the new, like younger generation that I don't get along with, but apparently there's an older generation that just went way fucking harder than I could possibly possibly go Yeah, I have just been like, oh, man, like the rocking was awesome last night, but fuck, I'm tired, really?

02:52.55
gav
ah ah

03:02.47
gav
ah You have just lotted you' slotted right in the middle.

03:14.06
Chibbs
Are we goingnna but going party all day?

03:14.45
Bevo
That's so funny that you say that. I, um, my wife and I went up to Brisbane to see a band last night and it's because it's daylight savings in New South Wales where we live, but not in Queensland.

03:27.32
gav
yeah

03:27.59
Bevo
The band didn't start till nine, 10 Queensland time, which is 10, 10 New South Wales time.

03:33.58
gav
Oh shit.

03:33.81
Chibbs
Oh, that's disgusting.

03:35.77
Bevo
And we, we had the VIP ticket. So we were there early. so fucking hell we didn't get home till two in the morning.

03:39.27
gav
Oh fuck.

03:42.63
gav
Oh that's rough.

03:43.97
Chibbs
ah It's not worth it.

03:45.61
gav
Fucking hell.

03:46.85
Chibbs
It's not worth it.

03:47.91
gav
Yeah, kick that.

03:49.00
Bevo
yeah

03:49.19
Chibbs
Yeah. this is ah This is me driving to Newcastle the other week to go watch Enter Shikari and then having booked a hotel room next to the venue. Because I'm like, it the whole show is done by 10.30 and Jazz and I are both like, Yeah.

04:02.22
Bevo
Yeah.

04:04.79
Bevo
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

04:05.46
gav
yeah

04:05.98
Bevo
Because otherwise, fuck, fuck, and I can't say this enough, that...

04:06.36
gav
We'll be in bed by 11.

04:07.66
Chibbs
yeah

04:08.52
gav
yeah

04:10.94
Chibbs
Yeah, but I'm just thinking, like, I've driven the Newcastle to play gigs and driven back afterwards so many times, and you just go, like, it sucks, though.

04:11.91
gav
yeah

04:17.81
gav
o

04:17.85
Bevo
Oh yeah. It's doable. but

04:21.10
Bevo
Yeah. Yeah.

04:21.62
gav
Yeah, that drive Newcastle is dull.

04:22.00
Chibbs
It really sucks.

04:22.43
Bevo
Actually. There was one time where me and Zav and Mossy went to the chili peppers and we came back.

04:23.58
gav
It's a dull drive.

04:23.84
Chibbs
Yeah, that's it.

04:29.93
Bevo
was probably the funniest car trip I've ever had because we were trying to, we're trying to do three part harmonies and Dean's not a great. its

04:36.59
gav
na Harmonizer.

04:39.33
Chibbs
It's not the voice of an angel.

04:40.74
Bevo
So that, that trip went well, that went quick.

04:43.25
Chibbs
um So Gavin's here.

04:46.41
gav
Hey, how we doing?

04:47.16
Chibbs
He's here. Trusty Beverage is here.

04:48.73
Bevo
That's me.

04:49.94
Chibbs
Doggy's not Doggy's hit the big time, and he's too good for us.

04:51.47
gav
Oh, woof woof.

04:55.18
gav
Oh.

04:56.97
Chibbs
He came up with a little invention that's made him hundreds of dollars.

05:05.44
Chibbs
it's ah He called it the noodle fan.

05:11.62
Bevo
All right. I've already got it. I reckon it's so it's a fork with a fan on it that cools your noodles as they're going towards your mouth.

05:12.99
Chibbs
You know what it does?

05:19.25
Chibbs
very close. It clips onto a chopstick.

05:22.56
gav
Oh, nice. You were soaked just the wrong utensil.

05:23.49
Chibbs
Yeah.

05:24.29
Bevo
Right. Idea.

05:25.38
Chibbs
Because, ah you know, you can't just blow on them.

05:25.54
gav
Yeah.

05:27.31
Bevo
Hey,

05:28.12
Chibbs
How can I eat and blow out?

05:28.15
Bevo
nobody got them over there.

05:30.22
Chibbs
Yeah.

05:30.91
gav
yeah

05:34.41
Bevo
Can you imagine just quiet quietly sitting in your kitchen and you just hear... Vrrrrr. Vrrrr.

05:43.19
Bevo
a

05:43.94
gav
ah

05:46.81
Chibbs
Ah, just right.

05:49.00
gav
I'd like to think if if i was a billionaire, I'd hire a full-time noodle blower that would just sit next to me when I was eating a hot noodle.

05:51.48
Chibbs
it

05:56.45
Chibbs
that's disgust That is so disgusting to have just some person you pay blow on your food.

06:00.63
gav
And as yeah as I, you know, chopstick the noodles out of the bowl, as I'm raising them to my mouth, they're just like following along.

06:04.82
Bevo
Just pass it over.

06:06.89
Chibbs
That's so fucking disgusting.

06:08.39
gav
Yeah. And a little bit of spittle flies out of their mouth and I just make full eye contact and gob the fucking lot.

06:08.96
Chibbs
Yeah. Yeah, of course it does. yeah What if they've been eating shit? What they've been eating shit before and now shit and spit?

06:15.79
gav
um

06:16.30
Chibbs
no

06:16.77
gav
I'll demand that they eat shit before it.

06:17.68
Bevo
And noodles.

06:18.86
gav
That is a prerequisite position.

06:21.84
Chibbs
Gavin, worst billionaire ever.

06:25.22
gav
You said best wrong.

06:28.33
Chibbs
Alright, Kiss have lyrics. They've got things to say. i hope it's about rocking and partying.

06:36.49
Chibbs
ah First one. You show us everything you've got. You keep on dancing and the room gets hot. That's a ne Nelly. It's like preempts Nelly, doesn't it?

06:46.75
Bevo
Yeah.

06:47.97
Chibbs
Yeah.

06:48.25
Bevo
Yeah.

06:49.96
Chibbs
hope he feeds birds in this song as well.

06:52.63
gav
yeah

06:53.04
Chibbs
ah You drive us wild, we'll drive you crazy. And you say you want to go for a spin. The party's just begun. We'll let you in, and you drive us wild.

07:05.58
Chibbs
We'll drive you crazy.

07:08.87
gav
It's our favorite thing to be driven.

07:10.66
Chibbs
Oh, it's so good. Okay, there's so many good things here.

07:13.96
Bevo
yeah I like that you you show us everything you've got. Reminds me of, have you seen Labyrinth where towards the end she meets that garbage lady?

07:18.19
gav
That's a good opener.

07:24.32
Bevo
Do

07:24.55
gav
yeah yeah yeah ah

07:27.43
Bevo
you know what I'm talking about? Or is that just weird?

07:28.38
Chibbs
Yeah, I

07:28.43
gav
yeah I know what you're talking about.

07:30.13
Bevo
She's like, here, hold this, hold this. Yeah.

07:32.12
Chibbs
do. Everything you got.

07:33.55
Bevo
yeah

07:34.27
Chibbs
Everything you got. Everything you got.

07:35.35
Bevo
Pants, cans, all dead cans.

07:38.70
gav
yeah

07:40.62
Chibbs
yeah ah Yeah, this the thing of um you keep dancing, the room just gets hot. Again, it's just so fucking funny to think that the room is getting, like, excruciatingly hot.

07:48.11
Bevo
rich

07:54.01
gav
It's like a sauna.

07:54.06
Chibbs
Like, yeah.

07:54.95
gav
It's a sauna in there.

07:56.74
Chibbs
But it's like you just got one guy from Kiss just being like, did I say stop dancing?

08:01.79
gav
You keep dancing. Show me everything you've got.

08:04.08
Chibbs
It's like, it's so hot in here.

08:04.46
Bevo
Also, just the mental image of everyone's like sort of sitting there watching this one guy dancing and just fucking doing moves and stuff and everyone's just starting to sweat a bit.

08:06.32
Chibbs
Yeah.

08:10.96
Chibbs
yeah

08:14.48
Bevo
Whew.

08:15.46
Chibbs
He's just chicken dance. It

08:18.47
gav
yeah

08:19.17
Bevo
Shuffling on the floor.

08:20.91
gav
ah

08:21.77
Chibbs
doesn't say there's music on either. It's just like you just hear the feet squeaching on the linoleum floors.

08:23.57
Bevo
Yeah.

08:28.25
Chibbs
Yeah. It's getting hot. Yeah.

08:31.51
gav
ah basketballshit the bullshit the chuck the chuck squeaking on the linoleum oh

08:33.60
Chibbs
yeah so

08:38.26
Chibbs
let's get up um Yeah, so they've said here twice that they're going to drive someone crazy. so

08:49.66
Bevo
a bit gaslighting.

08:53.55
Chibbs
They're like, it's really hot in here. It's like, it's cold.

08:57.89
gav
yeah ah

09:01.45
Chibbs
I'm freezing. Yeah.

09:04.85
Bevo
Imagine Gene Simmons in full makeup saying that as well.

09:08.18
gav
that The leather pants. I'm actually really cold.

09:10.75
Bevo
I'm freezing.

09:11.58
Chibbs
so

09:11.66
gav
I'm actually really cold.

09:13.30
Chibbs
And then you're like, okay, well, I guess I could turn this dance into some sort of spin now.

09:20.14
gav
there

09:20.31
Chibbs
and they just put their arms out wide like ah like a bird and just start spinning and spinning and spinning.

09:27.81
gav
I like the fact that it's you say you want to go for a spin. I'd like it if Gene Simmons is sitting there like, no, you can't do that.

09:35.13
Chibbs
Just...

09:35.70
gav
Keep dancing in the heat.

09:36.64
Chibbs
the it's it they They did spit during the dance. He's like, no.

09:44.58
gav
yeah Stop. Stop that now. Stop that now. What did I say about that?

09:48.24
Chibbs
too hot.

09:48.33
Bevo
And that leads...

09:49.13
Chibbs
too hot in here for spinning.

09:51.41
Bevo
It also leads on to the party's just begun. We'll let you in as if this person has been locked out the whole time.

09:56.26
Chibbs
he They're going to dance on the patio.

09:57.71
Bevo
and mix

09:59.41
Chibbs
Yeah.

10:01.58
Bevo
Or it's some kind of cat that wanted to go for like the Zoomy spins.

10:09.00
Chibbs
That was the party.

10:10.17
Bevo
Yeah.

10:10.59
Chibbs
yeah

10:10.91
gav
fuck yeah they're banging on the door they're spinning on the porch trying to get in

10:12.73
Chibbs
They get to the pre-chorus. It goes, you keep on shouting. You keep on shouting. It is someone locked out.

10:25.76
Chibbs
trying to get in. They want to get in.

10:26.78
Bevo
And yet without the context of what's coming next, it's just like, it's like a complaint. You keep on shouting just outside going, ah, yeah, let me in.

10:32.37
Chibbs
Just cut.

10:33.59
gav
and yeah

10:36.11
Chibbs
that Well, if've gone they've gone crazy.

10:41.32
gav
They probably think they're speaking at a perfectly normal volume.

10:43.79
Chibbs
It's just like, oh, my God, we've actually driven this person crazy.

10:47.73
gav
ah ah That's why they locked them outside.

10:48.16
Chibbs
so

10:50.33
gav
They're concerned for their safety.

10:50.35
Chibbs
yeah

10:51.94
gav
They're like, there's a crazy person at this party.

10:51.93
Chibbs
yes Yeah.

10:53.56
Bevo
but Okay, well, let's let's let's backtrack a bit. Imagine this person has been locked out of the room, the safe room.

10:56.32
gav
All right.

11:00.36
Bevo
So, so far, to try and get in, they've showed them everything they've got.

11:00.39
Chibbs
Yeah.

11:04.12
Bevo
They've been dancing. The room's getting hotter.

11:08.05
gav
ah

11:08.08
Chibbs
yeah Show me everything you got.

11:10.53
Bevo
Man,

11:11.50
Chibbs
And it literally was like, I've got a hundred bucks. You get a hundred bucks? No, we don't take that. no what you got and To the point that you went through so many things that you've got to be like, I guess I could date dance for you.

11:18.39
gav
no

11:23.99
gav
I can dance for you Is this acceptable?

11:26.42
Chibbs
They're like, they're like, easy yeah.

11:30.29
gav
Now we're talking.

11:33.93
gav
ha ha.

11:34.95
Bevo
And keep on chatting.

11:35.23
gav
Ha ha ha.

11:36.46
Chibbs
yeah The chorus. I want to rock and roll all night and party every day. i want to rock and roll all night and party every day. i want to rock and roll all night and party every day.

11:49.67
Chibbs
i want to rock and roll all night and party every day. Now, this is songwriting.

12:00.02
Bevo
and it's What's that?

12:00.37
gav
Yeah.

12:01.24
Bevo
What's the guy that pushes the boulder up the hill and then he gets to the top and the boulder falls back down the end?

12:04.86
gav
oh Oh, fucking Dionysus or Dionysus.

12:06.76
Bevo
Sisyphus?

12:08.51
gav
Yeah, whichever one of those fucking Isis's names.

12:10.60
Bevo
I think it's Sisyphus.

12:10.83
Chibbs
Whatever those Greek syphilis.

12:12.34
gav
Sisyphus.

12:12.52
Bevo
Yeah, that's what this is.

12:14.22
gav
um Syphilis. it's This guy has syphilis. I was going to go with, if this is peak songwriting, I think that we all know um Mr. Wesley Willis took a real leaf out of this book.

12:25.68
Chibbs
Oh, yeah, he sure did.

12:28.06
gav
We've gone for the just a four-line chorus. Every line is the same. It is the title of the song.

12:33.92
Chibbs
It is total song.

12:34.11
Bevo
Well, Wesley was was told a lot of things like the perfect pop song is this tempo and has this structure and he took that all very much on board and that's why all his songs are the same because he was told that that was what made a successful song.

12:46.41
Chibbs
that's you

12:46.77
gav
That's how you write a pop song.

12:47.95
Chibbs
You want to want to be a hit.

12:48.16
gav
And he was right. He was right.

12:49.50
Bevo
Yeah. Yeah.

12:50.97
Chibbs
um this is This is like the epitome of I could have written that, but I didn't.

12:56.52
gav
But I didn't.

12:57.56
Chibbs
But I didn't.

12:57.56
Bevo
Yeah.

12:59.30
gav
But I was born far too late.

12:59.75
Bevo
It's, yeah, it's ah it's so boneheaded.

13:04.09
Chibbs
if some Why it like it's so fucking rock and roll to do this, but if someone released this today, you'd be like, oh, fuck off. Like,

13:13.07
Bevo
i guess LMFAO kind of, well, not today, like 20 years ago at this point. Fucking party rock anthem.

13:18.49
gav
Jesus.

13:18.88
Chibbs
What did they say? What did they do? I

13:21.79
Bevo
Sorry for party rocking all that shit.

13:24.52
Chibbs
i guess, you know, it's not, yeah.

13:24.87
gav
Yeah. Yeah.

13:26.29
Bevo
Every day I'm shuffling.

13:28.16
Chibbs
Yeah.

13:28.64
Bevo
it It's in this vein, isn't it?

13:29.08
gav
Christ. It is a bit.

13:30.41
Chibbs
I guess, yeah.

13:31.87
gav
I love that that logic train flows. We started it, I want to rock and roll all night and party every day and ended up that every day I'm shuffling. That is just like the grand...

13:38.95
Bevo
ah Sorry, sorry for party rocking.

13:41.37
Chibbs
Sorry for party-racking.

13:42.59
gav
That's the grandfather of this song. Oh, the grandson, sorry, of this song.

13:46.41
Bevo
Yeah.

13:46.75
Chibbs
and the more I think about this, then they're not actually saying they do this. They're saying they'd like to

13:51.51
Bevo
yeah

13:51.94
gav
I want to.

13:53.05
Chibbs
Yeah.

13:53.54
gav
That's a good point.

13:53.62
Chibbs
So but maybe maybe I would get along with them.

13:54.46
gav
I've never thought about that.

13:55.91
Chibbs
It's just like, because, yeah, I'm like, fuck yeah, I want to rock and roll a night party every day. I'm not going to.

14:01.07
gav
that

14:01.10
Chibbs
ah I'm not going to do it.

14:02.71
gav
I simply do not have the stamina for this.

14:04.35
Chibbs
Yeah. But I would imagine if you did, it would be a good time.

14:10.19
gav
it would be nice.

14:10.31
Bevo
I just, I like the mental image of just like putting down your fucking instruments at about 5am.

14:16.00
Chibbs
Oh, yeah, 5.45am, your show finished.

14:19.25
Bevo
Yeah.

14:19.76
Chibbs
but you you got You went onto stage at around 8pm, 7.30pm, and you are like, thank you, Seattle.

14:24.15
Bevo
Yeah.

14:29.94
Bevo
Good morning.

14:30.67
Chibbs
good

14:31.91
gav
This is it.

14:32.11
Chibbs
And it's at its quarter to six.

14:34.12
Bevo
yeah

14:34.21
Chibbs
The sun comes up and you're like...

14:36.15
Bevo
Get the beers out.

14:36.17
Chibbs
just fucking down a bottle of vodka as you walk off the stage and be like, we are partying, fellas.

14:37.15
Bevo
Yeah.

14:39.17
gav
Ha ha ha ha ha. Ha ha ha ha.

14:44.03
gav
this is it

14:44.13
Chibbs
They're like, you're going to die.

14:47.07
gav
ha

14:47.45
Chibbs
Yeah. um it But there's something about the way that Kiss is marketed and sold that you genuinely believe they were rocking or not partying every day.

14:59.54
Bevo
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

14:59.87
gav
on

15:00.00
Chibbs
Yeah. It's like, ah but I believe you. Maybe it's that's it it's sincere. That's why it works. Yeah.

15:08.56
Bevo
Have you ever seen, there's an interview with Kiss when but when they were still very private about their personal, like what they look like and stuff.

15:16.50
Chibbs
Yeah.

15:16.98
Bevo
And it's like this interview and there's this chick next to them and she's like, wouldn't it be funny if underneath all these, like underneath all the makeup, there were just nice little Jewish boys and they are.

15:27.47
Bevo
Yeah.

15:27.73
Chibbs
yeah

15:28.69
Bevo
and they're all laughing. Gene's like, only you knew. And then whoever the host is like, you can't hide that hook nose from me.

15:37.09
gav
Oh, no way. No fucking way.

15:38.79
Bevo
Bad.

15:40.73
Chibbs
ah

15:41.57
gav
Oh, my God.

15:43.00
Chibbs
We used to be a real society.

15:48.83
gav
Oh my God.

15:49.14
Chibbs
That's just good television.

15:50.75
gav
That is pretty fantastic TV.

15:50.90
Bevo
Hmm.

15:51.72
Chibbs
Yeah, yeah.

15:53.70
gav
Yeah. I don't know. i feel like we're going to, we're going to get onto their, um we're going to get onto their look at some point.

15:59.34
Chibbs
Oh, yeah. well i'm sure I'm sure we'll get there.

15:59.94
gav
It's probably not the time, but let's, yeah, let's, let's progress.

16:01.17
Chibbs
sure we'll get there Verse 2. You keep on saying you'll be mine for a while. You're looking fancy, and I like your style. And you drive us wild.

16:11.75
Chibbs
We'll drive you crazy. And you show us everything you've got. Baby, please. That's quite a lot. And you drive us wild. We'll drive you crazy.

16:22.79
gav
Fuck.

16:24.22
Chibbs
So someone's turned up.

16:24.25
Bevo
looking fancy

16:24.41
gav
They're really

16:25.33
Chibbs
Someone has turned up with a lot of lot of stuff.

16:31.76
Bevo
looking fancy and she's coming in like ball gown or something

16:33.74
gav
Yeah. You're looking fancy and like your style.

16:37.77
Chibbs
Yeah, I guess so.

16:37.92
gav
what's i mean What did we say?

16:38.50
Chibbs
It's

16:39.94
gav
1975. What's 1975 fancy though? Because I feel like it would just look um disco, right?

16:43.17
Chibbs
a disco sequence.

16:45.92
gav
Yeah. Oh, maybe that was a bit later. That was probably a bit later. Am I wrong? 78? don't know. I could be wrong.

16:52.30
Chibbs
Yeah, that could have been later 70s.

16:53.01
gav
Was Disco big in 75?

16:53.38
Chibbs
I don't

16:54.66
gav
Probably was.

16:56.35
Bevo
and

16:56.88
Chibbs
ah know.

16:57.95
gav
I feel like that's a question for Bevo and he's and he's hit the radio silence on me.

16:59.91
Chibbs
Yeah, Bevo should let us know that.

17:01.04
Bevo
ah I've been, i just Googled 1975 fancy and it just gave me like ideas for a 1970s themed fancy dress party.

17:09.90
Chibbs
Oh, right.

17:10.02
gav
ah yeah, okay.

17:10.56
Bevo
didn't help.

17:11.40
gav
is it Is it all just kiss?

17:11.48
Bevo
so No, it's just like David Bowie.

17:12.90
gav
Just kiss face makeup?

17:15.65
Bevo
um

17:16.05
gav
Okay. Okay.

17:17.22
Bevo
ah Bloody.

17:21.57
Bevo
It's all what I would define as sixty s

17:25.33
Chibbs
Right.

17:26.08
Bevo
But you've got Elton John with his big feather boas and stuff like that.

17:26.34
gav
Right.

17:29.29
Chibbs
Okay.

17:29.39
Bevo
John Travolta.

17:29.82
gav
That's...

17:29.79
Chibbs
It was like the end of an era.

17:30.23
Bevo
and Yeah.

17:31.25
gav
Yeah. That's 70s, right? That's...

17:34.94
Bevo
Rocky Horror.

17:37.36
Chibbs
Okay.

17:37.45
Bevo
All that stuff.

17:37.56
gav
Yeah.

17:38.03
Chibbs
Tim Curry in drag.

17:38.07
Bevo
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

17:41.69
Chibbs
Right.

17:44.18
Bevo
The old bit archetype pimp, purple pimp suit with the hat.

17:47.48
Chibbs
Yeah. Pimping ain't easy.

17:48.69
Bevo
Yeah.

17:49.75
Chibbs
Yeah, yeah. It's shaft!

17:52.42
gav
I'll tell my favorite part of this sum verse though. um Show us everything you've got. Baby, please. That's quite a lot. It's like they they they went a bit too much. They went ah they went a bit.

18:01.22
Bevo
it off.

18:01.49
Chibbs
It's like...

18:02.59
gav
Show me everything you've got. Oh God, not not that much though.

18:04.99
Chibbs
oh it's like the They went full Robbie Williams Just started ripping the skin off Yeah Yeah

18:05.27
gav
like yeah

18:05.46
Bevo
I

18:09.58
gav
a Still my favorite film clip we've ever done on the pod for the regular or second, top top three, top three.

18:11.59
Bevo
need the biggest...

18:17.45
Bevo
Sorry, I was going to quote The Simpsons and then I i changed my mind.

18:20.61
Chibbs
Oh right

18:21.08
gav
ah Okay, yeah.

18:21.23
Bevo
Yeah.

18:21.80
gav
So we left room for you there and you stepped back.

18:23.51
Bevo
yeah yeah Just like his.

18:26.81
gav
I love it.

18:26.85
Bevo
ah walked it back.

18:27.08
Chibbs
Yeah, it is ah it is a be careful what you wish for, though, with like, hey, just show me everything you got.

18:28.21
gav
I love how...

18:33.02
Chibbs
ah oh Oh.

18:34.32
gav
Oh, God.

18:34.34
Bevo
Well, that's a bit too much.

18:34.52
Chibbs
ah

18:34.88
gav
Oh, God.

18:36.86
Bevo
but

18:37.51
Chibbs
Oh.

18:38.76
gav
I love it.

18:38.79
Chibbs
ah

18:39.10
gav
It's got Baby, Please, That's Quite A Lot. It's so like...

18:41.90
Chibbs
That's a lot.

18:42.87
gav
It's a little bit disgusted, isn't it?

18:42.88
Chibbs
Yeah, it's it it's a polite rejection.

18:44.51
gav
It's like, Baby, Please, That's... Yeah.

18:48.78
Chibbs
Yeah, which is great to chuck into the middle of this song for some reason.

18:49.35
gav
It's still saying that they're driving us crazy.

18:53.52
Chibbs
Yeah.

18:53.76
gav
a It's like, yeah, rock and roll all night, party every day. We have no boundaries. all but we draw the line there.

19:00.11
Chibbs
Just like, a just have some self-respect.

19:00.35
gav
That's, you know, that's that's it. that's This is too much.

19:04.19
Bevo
I, yeah, my storage space doesn't really fit all that.

19:05.10
gav
ah um

19:07.30
Chibbs
Yeah.

19:08.18
gav
yeah I'm picturing them like slowly taking off their party hats and like wiping off the face makeup. Just like, okay, we're, no, this is, guys, pack it in for the day.

19:18.52
gav
we need We need to reassess here.

19:21.05
Bevo
That's also, I hadn't thought of that, but like when you think about kiss partying, it's like booze and fucking drugs and stuff, but it could also be like party hats and blowers.

19:27.32
gav
it's They're at Play Maze, yeah.

19:30.08
Chibbs
but yeah

19:33.81
Chibbs
Playmates!

19:34.22
gav
They've got a big slice of, like, red velvet cake with the cream cheese icing the handle.

19:37.95
Bevo
Yeah, McDonald's party.

19:39.66
Chibbs
Yeah. It's like a bowling party.

19:45.10
Chibbs
They got a party room at the bowling alley.

19:47.39
Bevo
Pin the tail on the donkey.

19:48.74
Chibbs
Yeah.

19:51.21
Chibbs
yeah

19:51.47
gav
Oh, man.

19:52.25
Chibbs
Yeah, they are a bunch of clowns.

19:53.96
Bevo
Don't forget your lolly bag.

19:53.98
Chibbs
Yeah.

19:54.10
gav
I'd love to see, like, all their all their names.

19:55.94
Bevo
Oh, yeah.

19:56.14
gav
You have to condense all their names into, like, the five letters to fit on the bowling alley screen. It's like Gene S.

20:00.48
Chibbs
Yeah.

20:05.15
gav
Paul S. S.

20:06.28
Bevo
Cat MN.

20:06.68
Chibbs
Ace F.

20:08.42
Bevo
I don't know. cat m n

20:12.00
Chibbs
yeah i a

20:21.50
gav
Why is that so fucking funny? That's fucking funny.

20:23.13
Bevo
know there

20:29.85
gav
Oh, I really like that.

20:31.05
Chibbs
yeah

20:31.17
gav
that's that's That's an elaborate shirt. That could be...

20:34.08
Chibbs
That's a celebration.

20:34.36
gav
that that That's a... It just shortened into the five...

20:38.68
Bevo
just Just kiss, want a rock and roll night party every day.

20:39.42
gav
for the

20:41.18
Bevo
And it's them at a kid's birthday party with the hats.

20:44.29
Chibbs
ah

20:48.54
gav
Oh, fuck. I like it.

20:49.20
Chibbs
ah that so That's all the lyrics.

20:50.16
gav
That's good.

20:51.51
Chibbs
Uh-huh.

20:52.16
gav
Oh, is that it?

20:52.22
Bevo
Yeah. Many, many repeats of the chorus.

20:54.10
Chibbs
So many choruses.

20:54.56
gav
Holy fucking shit. I just scrolled down.

20:56.30
Chibbs
and share But it's all right, because we've got cool things to talk about here.

20:58.04
gav
that is a lot of chorus.

21:01.66
Bevo
It's like, it's like kiss when we need some filler before we start singing.

21:01.72
gav
Yeah.

21:01.74
Chibbs
It's...

21:04.80
Bevo
I want to rock and roll night party every day.

21:06.08
Chibbs
Yeah, how do we get back to it?

21:07.46
Bevo
Yeah.

21:08.91
Chibbs
ah It was released on the 2nd of April 1975. That's 9,659 days before the towers fell.

21:15.63
gav
That's the longest we've had before the towers in a while, actually.

21:17.82
Chibbs
Yeah, it's a long time, hey? Yeah, they would have had no idea.

21:19.47
gav
yeah yeah oh no yeah there would have been rumblings

21:22.74
Bevo
Not the longest. I think the oldest song we've done is um the Australian National Anthem.

21:27.46
gav
to be fair though we weren't counting the days of the tower at that point and also that is one of our weakest episodes ever art do you remember that and i thought you were on it we had it we had a guest though there was like

21:33.01
Bevo
Yeah, don't don't listen to that.

21:33.45
Chibbs
i did it I wasn't on it and I didn't listen to it. Was I on it?

21:37.97
Bevo
I thought you were on it.

21:40.02
Chibbs
Well, I must have forgotten.

21:42.28
gav
It was a guest episode and it was easily one of the weakest episodes we've ever had.

21:48.01
Chibbs
I'll skip that one.

21:48.79
gav
I was so excited because was like, that is such a hilarious choice of song. And then it was just weak sauce.

21:53.52
Bevo
Yeah, it's like, I wonder what his takes are on this, and he kind of didn't have any.

21:57.19
gav
didn't say Didn't say anything for the whole fucking episode.

21:59.42
Chibbs
maybe that was his comp Maybe that was the but funny part, is that he fucked us all.

22:03.40
gav
Yeah, we might. Yeah, that could have been his play. Yeah, him and his mates sat around and listened to it.

22:06.98
Bevo
Meta.

22:08.16
gav
We're like, oh my God, listen to these fucking idiots trying fill dead air time.

22:11.76
Chibbs
yeah And not be racist. yeah

22:15.78
Bevo
Yeah.

22:17.65
Chibbs
It's written by Paul Stanley and Gene Simmons. When they released rocket Rock and Roll All Night as a studio single in 1975, it flopped.

22:28.62
Chibbs
was actually a flop.

22:29.08
gav
Oh, really?

22:29.67
Chibbs
Yeah, yeah. um Then they released a live version of it one year later, and it became their biggest fucking success. How weird is that?

22:38.17
gav
Yeah, that's strange.

22:38.15
Bevo
Yeah. Maybe they just didn't capture the fucking essence of it.

22:42.80
Chibbs
Yeah, it's just... i mean, when's that ever happened?

22:47.87
Chibbs
That the live version is what became the hit?

22:50.16
Bevo
Maybe Peter Frampton, I reckon, I would take a guess with his sense life.

22:53.58
Chibbs
Frampton comes alive?

22:54.01
gav
Framden comes alive. Everybody in the world had Framden comes alive.

22:56.14
Chibbs
Can you... The only thing I know about fucking that is The Simpsons. It's the only reference I have to Peter Frampton.

23:02.84
Bevo
you feel...

23:03.91
Chibbs
It's like that. Do you feel? Do you feel?

23:09.17
gav
who

23:10.13
Chibbs
That's it. I don't know anything else about Peter Frampton.

23:11.91
gav
You don't know.

23:12.08
Bevo
What about, um here's another one. ah Candle in the wind, Diana, Princess Diana.

23:16.83
Chibbs
Was that live?

23:18.67
Bevo
He did it at the funeral. i don't know if they released the live version.

23:20.79
Chibbs
I don't think the recording was live.

23:22.58
Bevo
Yeah. Okay.

23:23.13
Chibbs
And also it was rehashed.

23:23.26
Bevo
um

23:25.96
Chibbs
It's like you couldn't even come up with an original song for Diana. He's like, I had this one that I sung for this um old slut from the Yeah,

23:31.46
Bevo
Yep. Move over Marilyn Monroe. You're done.

23:35.96
Chibbs
ah yeah yeah. That the Kennedys killed.

23:37.90
gav
oh

23:38.65
Chibbs
Yeah. yeah

23:42.69
Bevo
I'm going to keep pondering on that live thing for you.

23:43.00
gav
but Don't worry, we got them back.

23:45.56
Chibbs
Yeah, yeah, that's right. Marilyn Monroe. that Maybe she was behind it all. They all started fucking dropping like flies. um Cheering in 1973 show Gene Simmons accidentally set his hair on fire while performing his fire-breathing stunt.

24:00.08
Chibbs
The roadies put it out, and he kept going like he kept playing the thing.

24:03.10
gav
Amazing. Amazing.

24:04.26
Chibbs
Yeah, yeah, hair fire. Michael Jackson fucking didn't didn't perform for, like, two years after caught him he set himself on fire.

24:13.83
Chibbs
But it could have something to do with molesting kids as well.

24:14.20
gav
Because he was a little bitch.

24:16.17
Chibbs
I don't know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Being a homosexual

24:24.66
gav
We're going to be hearing from his lawyer. He's he's still around, right? He can he can sue us?

24:27.95
Chibbs
Sure.

24:28.22
gav
Is he still?

24:28.52
Chibbs
yeah In the 70s, I like this one, a rumor spread that Kiss stood for Knights of Satan's service.

24:38.52
Bevo
pick off

24:38.58
gav
service? Yeah.

24:39.00
Chibbs
Night sit in Satan's service. Yeah. And they were a satanic band.

24:44.20
gav
yeah yeah

24:47.35
Bevo
It's so funny too, because their first album is like, their first album is real beatily.

24:47.37
Chibbs
Ah, Satanists.

24:52.15
Bevo
Like it's just pop.

24:53.45
Chibbs
Pop songs.

24:53.63
gav
Yeah, 100%.

24:54.26
Bevo
Yeah.

24:54.96
Chibbs
i

24:55.06
gav
I...

24:55.71
Chibbs
Everything they did was a pop song.

24:57.87
Bevo
They got more metal as they kind of went on, but.

24:58.01
gav
I actually played... I played this for Lauren before the, like, when I chucked it on um earlier today and I was like, it's just so, like, poppy and, like, campy. It's campy pop.

25:11.20
gav
I'm like, this is a very campy pop.

25:11.22
Chibbs
Yeah.

25:11.31
Bevo
Yeah.

25:13.02
gav
And then I pulled up the picture of Kiss and I was like, listen to what you're hearing and then look at this picture and realise that these are the guys singing this song. Like, they're in, like, the spiky black looks like they're just, like, going to play grindcore.

25:21.14
Bevo
yeah

25:24.45
Bevo
yeah

25:25.62
Chibbs
and Yeah, it looks like they are like from um like some Scandinavian um black metal band.

25:30.49
gav
Yeah, black metal band. And yeah, and then it's just like this. It's so jarring.

25:34.31
Chibbs
Which is actually funny to think. So, ah one, like, that style of, like, how they look was so, like, that is Kiss, but then you have all those Scandinavian black metal bands that were fucking stabbing each other and burning churches down, but they're dressed like Kiss.

25:46.01
gav
That look exactly like that.

25:50.44
gav
Yeah, yeah.

25:50.74
Bevo
yeah

25:51.86
gav
Who was that? Who was that one that you're talking about where they were...

25:54.01
Chibbs
ah

25:54.46
gav
um

25:56.01
Chibbs
It's on the tip of my tongue. ah Yeah, I can't remember.

25:58.73
gav
I've done a deep dive on them once.

25:59.90
Chibbs
Yeah.

26:00.09
gav
It's probably some so fucking Scandinavian sounding name.

26:01.36
Chibbs
ah Yeah, I do every few years. i go into the Scandinavian church burning thing and they were just, they were murdering each other.

26:06.15
gav
Yeah. Death metal bands with a... Yeah. And the guy that the guy that um shot himself and then his mate took the photo of his corpse and made it the next album cover.

26:09.88
Chibbs
yeah

26:15.74
Chibbs
Made an album cover. Yeah.

26:17.22
Bevo
It's rough.

26:17.45
Chibbs
Lunatics.

26:17.54
Bevo
but Do you guys, do you guys know enough about kiss about like when they took the makeup off in the eighties?

26:17.95
gav
Oh, fuck.

26:18.19
Chibbs
Lunatics. the

26:24.13
Chibbs
I know it like they, it was a mistake, right?

26:25.23
gav
No.

26:28.54
Bevo
Well, I think it kept them kicking for a little bit longer, but you could always tell in the photos that Gene Simmons was like, this was a mistake.

26:36.29
Chibbs
You see it in his eyes.

26:37.57
Bevo
I saw, I saw there's a picture of him playing in the eighties with his makeup off, but on his base is a picture of his like makeup face.

26:37.75
Chibbs
I've made a terrible mistake.

26:38.64
gav
but

26:46.60
Chibbs
Oh, right. he can consider It's me.

26:47.90
gav
funny.

26:48.64
Chibbs
if' I'm the same guy.

26:49.09
Bevo
Yeah. He knows where his bread's buttered.

26:51.40
Chibbs
yeah Paul Stanley was born with microtia, which is a condition that left him without a bright ear. um

26:59.11
Bevo
um

26:59.52
gav
fuck

26:59.52
Chibbs
And he's almost completely deaf on that side.

27:02.64
Bevo
Wow.

27:03.25
Chibbs
Yeah. Yeah. So ah his hair is always covering him and apparently doesn't have any. eat

27:08.00
Bevo
Wow.

27:08.59
gav
That is fucking crazy.

27:08.99
Chibbs
Yeah.

27:09.90
Bevo
didn't know that at all.

27:11.27
Chibbs
How wild is that? um And during a concert in 1976, Ace touched an ungrounded metal railing and got severely electrocuted that knocked him unconscious.

27:28.97
Bevo
He wrote a song about it called Shock Me.

27:30.98
Chibbs
Yeah, and then he wrote song about it.

27:32.91
gav
Dope.

27:33.70
Chibbs
But how fucking...

27:33.78
gav
Made the best of a best of a bad situation.

27:35.58
Chibbs
You need to be well and truly shocked to be unconscious from it.

27:38.69
gav
dick Yeah, that's that's bad.

27:41.13
Chibbs
Yeah. Like, what? I think the 70s just fucking cowboy days of setting stages up and gear and stuff.

27:48.30
Bevo
Yeah, would have grounded out for me his electric guitar.

27:48.77
gav
Oh, for sure.

27:50.72
Bevo
Yeah.

27:50.74
Chibbs
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

27:51.59
gav
Yeah, yeah.

27:52.74
Chibbs
He just... the He made the continuous circuit.

27:57.07
Bevo
the funny The funniest part is that they wear those huge heels, so they would have had to be like fucking metal.

27:57.07
Chibbs
Like, he was the...

28:01.80
Chibbs
Yeah, was that helmet of metal? Like, is there no insulation in his shoes at all?

28:04.20
Bevo
Just make them out of rubber.

28:04.93
gav
ah

28:06.67
Chibbs
Bizarre.

28:07.25
gav
ah

28:08.36
Chibbs
Yeah.

28:08.59
gav
ah

28:10.24
Chibbs
He's that guy from fucking Baz Luhrmann's Romeo and Juliet that had the fucking metal bottoms of his shoes.

28:17.37
Bevo
Could you imagine being at that show where he got shocked? and Fucking sparks coming out of his head and you're like, fuck, this is a good show.

28:22.85
Chibbs
and look Kiss! Kiss!

28:25.29
gav
ah

28:25.88
Chibbs
Ah, fucking stepping up these pyrotechnics.

28:28.29
gav
jit Gene off to the side with his hair on fire.

28:29.81
Bevo
I got X's in his eyes. Yeah.

28:31.36
gav
my god.

28:32.07
Chibbs
ches here so far I didn't say it was the same show.

28:32.12
gav
So fucking spiraled out.

28:36.38
Chibbs
is

28:36.66
gav
ah

28:37.99
Chibbs
And Paul Steely the whole time in the middle has just been like, on the ground. ba on the ground

28:43.36
gav
a

28:48.68
gav
oh my god

28:49.55
Chibbs
It's so Spinal Tap.

28:51.44
Bevo
yeah

28:51.99
Chibbs
so Yeah.

28:52.28
gav
so fucking funnel tab

28:53.50
Chibbs
a ah In 77, Kiss partnered with Marvel Comics to release a Kiss comic book, and to hype it up, they drew their own blood and mixed it in with the red ink used to print the comics.

29:06.68
gav
Oh, fuck.

29:08.26
Chibbs
Gnarly.

29:08.84
Bevo
Yeah, yeah.

29:09.33
gav
That's dope.

29:10.06
Chibbs
Yeah. ah And I just, ah we had to talk about this. the The Kiss merchandising of just being like anything. Like, I can't imagine if Kiss had been at the height of their popularity now with Teemu and Alibaba and shit, just the amount of extra Kiss shit that would have been floating around.

29:25.86
gav
Oh, God, so true.

29:30.32
Chibbs
It's just like Kiss fidget spinners, Kiss poppets.

29:32.79
Bevo
yeah yeah

29:33.70
Chibbs
Like, yeah.

29:33.92
gav
ah It's, um, Gene Simmons has a massive, um, he, he's a huge Kiss merchandise collector, I think.

29:41.48
Chibbs
Yeah, he's he's got like warehouses full of the stuff.

29:43.93
gav
Yeah. Yeah. Like, which sounds cooked, obviously being that it's, it's his stuff, but it's like, yeah, apparently he's like, I'm sure it is.

29:44.71
Bevo
Yeah.

29:44.80
Chibbs
Yeah.

29:48.17
Chibbs
It's probably worth a lot. Yeah.

29:51.63
Bevo
What a kiss merchandise do you guys have?

29:55.08
gav
Um, I'm trying to think.

29:55.56
Chibbs
I don't have anything, Kiss.

29:57.82
Bevo
I had, remember, remember back in the day when you had the wallet with the fucking chain, the long chain, i had a kiss wallet with a chain.

30:01.73
Chibbs
Yeah.

30:02.80
gav
Yeah, mine was the Nirvana.

30:04.04
Chibbs
Did ya?

30:04.73
Bevo
Yeah.

30:04.89
gav
I had the Nirvana wallet with the chain.

30:06.91
Bevo
Was it my checkerboard?

30:07.25
Chibbs
I didn't have a themed wallet at all, I don't think.

30:07.73
gav
Chibs' favourite band.

30:11.88
Chibbs
No theme wallet.

30:12.98
Bevo
That was my, my kiss merch.

30:14.52
Chibbs
Yeah.

30:14.82
Bevo
That's the only thing I think.

30:15.57
Chibbs
um So they also made a ah kiss casket, which is the kiss the kiss coffin.

30:20.51
Bevo
Yeah.

30:21.68
gav
fuck.

30:22.21
Chibbs
Do you know who's buried in a kiss coffin?

30:24.77
gav
Oh, go on.

30:24.74
Bevo
Dimebag.

30:25.71
Chibbs
Dimebag Daryl.

30:27.06
gav
No fucking way.

30:27.14
Bevo
Yeah.

30:28.35
Chibbs
Yeah. Yeah. He...

30:29.42
Bevo
With Eddie Van Halen's guitar in his hands too.

30:29.45
Chibbs
Yeah. He's in a kiss coffin.

30:33.40
gav
Wow.

30:34.80
Chibbs
So, yeah, Dimebag...

30:35.60
gav
And a cheese grater and a cheese grater sitting on top of it all.

30:39.51
Chibbs
Dimebag, he would, as like a 12-year-old or 11-year-old or something, would go in these national guitar competitions and play Kiss, play Kiss songs in them, and then improv solos and stuff and all this sort of thing.

30:55.12
Chibbs
And he won it so many times in a row that they stopped him competing. They're like, you can't, yeahcar you can't, you're not allowed to...

30:59.12
Bevo
Yeah. That's when you become the judge.

31:01.65
Chibbs
Yeah, you're not allowed to be in it anymore. But he was a little kid and he was just fucking, yeah, he was so obsessed with Kiss.

31:03.56
Bevo
Yeah.

31:03.62
gav
That's fucking funny.

31:06.86
Bevo
That's how he won his guitar, his famous guitar. Yeah.

31:10.47
Chibbs
Yeah.

31:11.02
gav
That's how he won his what?

31:12.21
Bevo
His famous Dean ML guitar playing, winning a competition like that, I believe.

31:14.92
Chibbs
Yeah.

31:15.18
gav
Yeah.

31:15.71
Chibbs
and

31:17.11
gav
Oh, there you go.

31:17.90
Bevo
Yeah.

31:18.00
Chibbs
Yeah.

31:18.48
gav
That's sick.

31:19.43
Chibbs
ah Gene Simmons has bragged about having sex with over 4,800 women and and he had photos of every single one of them.

31:25.60
gav
God.

31:29.25
Chibbs
Not creepy at all.

31:30.69
gav
Did he actually...

31:32.04
Chibbs
Yeah, um when he was matt when he got married later in life, yeah his wife his wife made him burn all the photos.

31:32.21
Bevo
Yeah.

31:36.72
Bevo
Destroyed the events.

31:39.82
Bevo
ah

31:40.10
gav
Oh, wow.

31:41.93
Chibbs
Yeah.

31:42.90
Bevo
Yeah, well, there'd be there would definitely be some incriminating photos in that in that collection.

31:43.01
Chibbs
Yeah.

31:43.11
gav
That is...

31:45.81
Chibbs
Oh, my God. that That's, yeah, that's 100%. Yeah. Yeah. yeah

31:49.92
gav
ah be i bet you have fucking a fucking thousand dollars she flipped through all 4,800 beforehand.

31:49.99
Chibbs
ah

31:56.23
gav
was like looking for people she knew.

31:56.82
Bevo
Catalogued them.

31:57.99
Chibbs
It's got him in a basketball card folder sort of thing. yeah

32:01.18
gav
a

32:02.15
Bevo
wonder if they're married.

32:02.40
Chibbs
They're still married. yeah the Gene Simmons is like the ultimate straight edge dude. like no He's never drunk or done drugs before.

32:13.35
Bevo
Hmm.

32:13.69
gav
Ever?

32:14.39
Chibbs
No.

32:14.75
Bevo
Yeah.

32:15.26
Chibbs
He um has never done drugs or gotten gotten drunk.

32:15.47
gav
Oh, wow.

32:18.64
Chibbs
Not even once.

32:20.07
Bevo
think I think really once accidentally drank some wine or something like that.

32:22.94
Chibbs
Yeah, but not enough to get drunk.

32:24.49
Bevo
Yeah. Yeah.

32:25.26
Chibbs
yeah um Yeah.

32:25.82
Bevo
Yeah.

32:27.13
Chibbs
In the early days of Kiss, Paul Stanley would wear a dead skunk around his neck as a fashion statement, but then he thought it looked cool, but everyone said it smelled so fucking bad that they wouldn't let him be in the same room as him.

32:33.89
gav
What

32:39.74
gav
a...

32:40.12
Chibbs
A dead skunk!

32:42.90
gav
what like What a cook cunt. That is so funny.

32:45.39
Chibbs
What a fucking idiot. Yeah. um And Paul Stanley and Gene Simmons were in a band before Kiss called Wicked Lester. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah

32:55.17
gav
Oh, Lester the Molester.

32:56.46
Chibbs
Wicked Lester. And they recorded an album, but it was so bad that they never released it before they started KISS. Yeah. um Simmons and Paul Stanley, they own the KISS brand.

33:07.91
Chibbs
So keep that in mind when it comes later on for the games.

33:09.40
gav
Okay. to the That'll be relevant.

33:11.70
Bevo
That's why the other two members can wear the makeup.

33:11.76
gav
Yep.

33:14.33
Chibbs
Yes.

33:15.05
Bevo
If they're not the original guys, but they're.

33:16.19
Chibbs
They're not the original guys, but yeah, state that the two dudes own um in the brand.

33:20.39
gav
Oh, right.

33:20.85
Chibbs
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

33:21.70
gav
Yeah.

33:21.71
Bevo
Yeah. And the characters.

33:22.87
Chibbs
Ace Frehley sold his rights to the Spaceman character so he doesn't get a cut of any of it. he He sold um the character to Paul Stanley and Gene Simmons, I imagine, during a drug-filled bender that he needed to pay for.

33:39.85
Chibbs
Yeah. Like, I imagine he just went up to Gene Simmons was like, I'm fucking Jones a man. I need to get a fix. And he's like, I tell you what, I tell you what, you sell me the Spaceman character, you a hundred bucks.

33:46.44
Bevo
Sell me the spaceman.

33:50.70
gav
Ah. ah

33:55.52
Bevo
Yeah.

33:56.25
Chibbs
Yeah. um Just ruthless business people. It's produced by Neil Bogart and Kiss. Neil Bogart was the founder of Casablanca Records, and he is the dude that basically discovered kiss

34:10.51
Bevo
he related to Humphrey, must be.

34:12.55
Chibbs
I know.

34:12.90
Bevo
Casablanca.

34:13.81
Chibbs
Yeah, don' I don't know. Yeah, that makes sense, doesn't it? um So, yeah, he he personally financed their Breakthrough Live album alive, ah which helped them launch.

34:24.02
gav
Nice.

34:25.52
Chibbs
So, yeah, is which is on.

34:27.19
gav
Which the live version of this was on.

34:29.85
Chibbs
That's right. So this he is basically the reason that KISS ever got anything out there.

34:30.23
gav
Yeah.

34:36.66
Chibbs
Like, he was paying for all of it. um After that, he was also a keyboard player during the disco explosion of the 70s, and he signed artists like Donna Summer, the village people in parliament, and basically just created that entire disco scene.

34:51.96
gav
Jesus Christ.

34:52.79
Chibbs
Yeah.

34:53.49
gav
We're just discussing what year Disco existed. Does it say what year he signed all those fucking people?

34:56.18
Chibbs
ah It just says the 70s. Just says the

34:58.65
gav
That's too fucking vague.

34:59.39
Chibbs
but But this one dude's there, and he's just like, I'm creating disco. And kiss!

35:05.01
Bevo
and disco and and costco

35:06.33
Chibbs
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

35:06.68
gav
Kisco, nice.

35:08.41
Chibbs
Yeah.

35:08.57
gav
Have a magical Christmas with Kisco.

35:10.33
Chibbs
Yeah. um right. Now, there isn't an official video, but I found a video. So...

35:15.00
gav
Yes.

35:21.79
gav
From Chibzy.

35:28.27
gav
Without Bevo.

35:30.29
Chibbs
Okay, so ah i was saying i saying earlier, I forgot to listen to the song and I went, oh, fuck, I'll quickly just jump on YouTube and see if there's a video.

35:33.49
gav
I was... Yeah.

35:39.98
Chibbs
And I just came up ah across this one that says it's from Kiss Exposed. Is that something like that?

35:45.56
Bevo
Yeah.

35:45.63
gav
Yeah, yeah.

35:46.27
Bevo
X.

35:46.73
Chibbs
Documentary?

35:47.12
Bevo
Emphasis on the X.

35:48.31
Chibbs
Yeah. so this is pretty much how it goes, right? You enter a mansion, a line of bikini-clad women, go first, Kiss come in behind them, into the mansion, and now for the rest of it, it is a series of women attempting to escape the mansion, and every time they run past a member of Kiss, they are grabbed quite physically, like, you not it's not a it's it's a wreath of the arm, and they lay one on them.

36:17.91
gav
Grabbed. Grabbed, yeah.

36:23.64
Chibbs
ah

36:24.56
gav
a

36:25.45
Chibbs
Every one of them. And none of them look happy. None of them are smiling. They all genuinely look like they want to leave. And every time they try, they get pulled in for a kiss by a member of KISS.

36:37.54
Chibbs
Yeah. Um...

36:38.42
gav
if you if you If you scan to two minutes and eight, I'm pretty sure there's a girl sitting on, i don't know whose lap that is, but she seems to be actively crying.

36:47.66
Chibbs
I was going to say, there's some with tears. There's one that tries to come down a staircase past Paul Stanley, I think, who looks like she's been looks like she's beent crying.

36:50.62
gav
Yeah.

36:53.57
Bevo
Yeah, I'm watching that now.

36:54.34
gav
covering Covering her face in shame. Yeah, yeah.

36:56.64
Bevo
And the black outer eyes.

36:56.85
Chibbs
Yeah. and and And he she gets reefed back for a kiss.

37:00.07
gav
Yeah.

37:03.00
Chibbs
Yeah.

37:03.70
Bevo
What about the one the one that's got like full black bar over her eyes?

37:06.02
Chibbs
Oh, yeah, that's...

37:06.14
Bevo
let She doesn't want to be identified.

37:06.38
gav
Yeah, like yeah it's a very it's a very problematic video.

37:07.73
Chibbs
Yeah, that one sued. That one sued. Yeah.

37:12.36
gav
And um I found a but possibly the one of the top comments um on this one from 11 months ago. All caps, all caps. I wish I was alive back then. oh my God.

37:24.56
Chibbs
I could be a rapist.

37:26.49
gav
i could I too could assault people with no ramifications whatsoever.

37:32.33
Chibbs
ah I just ah don't understand.

37:33.14
gav
Fuck.

37:34.18
Chibbs
There were cameras there. There were people behind the cameras. If you can see someone, they're crying. Like, let them out. This is the song, I guess. The song is about not letting them.

37:46.12
Bevo
Yeah, maybe maybe they have been partying every day and rocking all night.

37:46.35
gav
yeah

37:48.88
Chibbs
Yeah. they's just yeah you would that How long do you reckon you could party for, Gavin, before you just started crying?

37:55.50
gav
um I can tell you the exact answer to that question it's about 27 hours have done it

37:57.83
Chibbs
Okay. Okay. ah

38:02.33
gav
ah

38:03.64
Chibbs
I don't even know why I'm crying.

38:07.19
gav
yeah

38:08.45
Chibbs
Now,

38:08.97
gav
the Dexys wore off alright

38:12.18
Chibbs
do you want to play game? Yeah.

38:14.49
Bevo
Love a game.

38:14.77
gav
let's play a fucking game

38:22.91
Chibbs
yep

38:23.70
Bevo
Yeah. ah

38:24.54
gav
Cool. Cool.

38:26.03
Bevo
This is the final Kiss concert. Madison Square Garden, New York, New York, USA. twenty Yeah, they ah hung up the hat, so to speak.

38:32.00
Chibbs
Are they done, are they?

38:36.12
Chibbs
Really? yeah

38:36.37
gav
I didn't realize... ah Yeah, last show...

38:37.29
Chibbs
ah thought they'd done a i thought they were a John Farnham thing. like They always said they were doing that.

38:40.46
gav
I... Yeah, I fully thought that they would still...

38:41.87
Bevo
Well, okay. So here's what happened. They did the last show. They, they toured the world like a couple of times with this, like, it's your last chance. No, no, no. It's your last chance.

38:53.22
gav
yeah We're doing one more loop of the globe.

38:53.42
Bevo
And i I think they came back to Australia three times on their last tour.

38:58.66
Chibbs
Yeah.

38:58.74
gav
um my God.

38:59.09
Bevo
And I had tickets for the, one of the last Sydney show and I couldn't go through reasons I won't disclose here. um

39:07.24
Chibbs
AIDS. It's a domino effect.

39:07.88
gav
Drug addiction. to AIDS that he got jabbing dirty needles from his drug addiction. Carry on.

39:14.93
Chibbs
it said domino fake

39:16.00
Bevo
and Anyway, so they played ah Madison Square Garden for this last show and at the very end they um they pulled out the Kiss ah hologram stuff that's going to happen after this after the show.

39:29.81
Chibbs
Oh, they're going to do that, are they?

39:31.10
Bevo
Yeah, they're doing the hologram thing moving forward.

39:32.19
gav
No one's done that since basically that two-pack at Coachella, right? Like they did...

39:35.52
Bevo
ABBA does it.

39:37.80
Chibbs
Do they?

39:38.62
Bevo
Yeah, ABBA Voyages or something like that.

39:39.66
gav
ah

39:41.29
Bevo
It's like a full show that tours with hologram ABBA.

39:41.33
Chibbs
okay.

39:44.20
Chibbs
Oh, yeah, okay, all right.

39:44.80
gav
Jesus Christ. um Because that...

39:45.77
Bevo
So yeah December 2nd, 2023, End of the roadw World Tour. three are call. ah

39:52.10
gav
So only quite recently then, just... Yeah, year before law.

39:54.51
Bevo
yeah yeah yeah um

39:55.30
gav
Oh, fuck.

39:56.42
Bevo
twenty three songs but the last three are uncle

40:01.34
gav
Fuck.

40:01.98
Chibbs
They've got to play it last. They've got to play it last.

40:05.17
gav
They've got such a massive catalogue though.

40:05.29
Chibbs
It's a song that, but yeah, but it's a song that you could just keep doing the chorus over and over and over and, and it could go for 15 minutes.

40:09.70
Bevo
Yeah. And you,

40:14.26
Bevo
yeah.

40:14.54
gav
Yeah.

40:14.79
Bevo
and And the confetti from the roof and

40:15.09
gav
Okay. Look, you're probably correct, but I'm going to just take that slight... I've got to take a different tack here. So I'll i'll go the last song of the main set. So I'll get what's that fourth last?

40:25.92
Bevo
yeah.

40:26.42
gav
Last song of the main set before the encore.

40:26.52
Bevo
ah No, of course, Jim's is right. I think they've been playing it last for their entire career.

40:29.07
gav
I know. Fuck. Fuck.

40:31.06
Chibbs
oh ah

40:32.27
Bevo
I think so. Yeah.

40:33.71
gav
Literally, you got it before me, but it literally says in the um in their genius um in the genius headline for this song, it literally says, the signature song and usual show closer by KISS.

40:44.22
Bevo
yeah yeah

40:45.14
Chibbs
Oh, okay.

40:45.26
gav
Like what it's known for.

40:45.91
Chibbs
like ah I'm going to be completely honest with you. i don't know anything about Kiss. I've never listened to Kiss. I don't know anything about Kiss.

40:53.29
gav
i've I've never listened to much KISS.

40:55.30
Bevo
I know lot about Kiss...

40:55.35
Chibbs
um've got a mate my mate My mate Dan is so the fucking it's a huge Kiss fan, like a massive Kiss fan. it's um just never I think I know a couple.

41:06.64
Chibbs
ah What have they got? They've this.

41:08.04
gav
I was made for loving you, maybe.

41:08.08
Chibbs
They've got I Was Made For Loving You. ah That's it.

41:10.96
gav
Yeah.

41:11.45
Chibbs
That might be all I know. don't know.

41:12.83
gav
That honestly is probably not far off all I know, but...

41:12.89
Bevo
Yeah. I'm, I'm a casual kiss fan that knows a lot about them for some reason.

41:17.97
Chibbs
Okay.

41:18.70
Bevo
Like I could, like I know most of the songs they play in the set list, but like, I, yeah.

41:23.23
Chibbs
I know more of their history than I know their songs.

41:23.91
gav
I think... I feel like for me, it's like I completely miss the wave that they were a part of. I probably listened to a lot of bands that were heavily influenced by Kiss, but they are that campy, older...

41:34.77
Chibbs
Yeah.

41:34.89
Bevo
Yeah. They were, they were so popular.

41:36.61
Chibbs
Nirvana. Nirvana.

41:38.16
gav
They're the campy the can't be uncle of the shit that I think is dope. You know what I mean? I don't i don't think it's very... I wouldn't say that I find Kiss particularly cool or good to listen to.

41:49.13
Bevo
Yeah. It's just like, think of them like they were like the Beatles in the seventies.

41:50.42
gav
yeah

41:53.46
gav
Pioneers. Pioneers of the genre, sure.

41:54.62
Chibbs
Yes. yeah

41:55.25
Bevo
Like in that, like they fucking every rock band afterwards, like every, every guitar player that came up in the nineties would cite Kiss as an influence.

42:04.56
gav
ah hundred percent And that's what I mean. like A lot of the bands that I listen to, I guarantee that they would kiss are their main influence, but it's just not...

42:10.79
Chibbs
I remember i went and saw Henry, Henry Rowlands one time.

42:11.18
Bevo
Yeah.

42:14.47
Chibbs
He was out and he talked about going to a kiss concert for an hour. Like you go watch him and he just talks for like three hours, but one hour is just him telling the story about his mate, taking him to a kiss show.

42:21.98
gav
Yeah. Yeah.

42:28.04
Chibbs
and him being like, fuck that, it's fucking, you know, like, I'm in Black Flag, Kiss is shit, it's all this and that, whatever, and him just, he just tells this story, it went for so long, but it's just this story, basically, of, like, as it every time a song went, or whatever, and then by the end of this set, he's just, like, crying, and, like, hands in the air, like,

42:51.69
gav
Ha ha ha ha.

42:51.80
Bevo
ah

42:54.21
gav
a

42:54.53
Bevo
It's like that... um

42:55.01
Chibbs
And he's just like, it's just like no one, you can't get out of this church of Kiss without being converted into Kiss.

43:01.94
Bevo
Yeah.

43:03.48
Chibbs
Not just I'm like Kiss now, but I am fucking obsessed with Kiss and I will never miss a Kiss show ever again, like ever again.

43:07.73
gav
I'm obsessed. Yeah.

43:09.57
Bevo
Walks out with makeup on. Yeah.

43:12.83
Chibbs
Yeah.

43:13.14
Bevo
It's like remember that... Remember that comic I sent you, that Beatle Moses comic, Chibs, with the monkeys? Yeah.

43:18.36
Chibbs
Yeah, I showed that to Jazz the other day because I have it saved. She's like, what memes do I have saved on my Instagram? And it's just that one.

43:27.50
Bevo
Big Bill and the Binky Boys or something like

43:28.85
gav
Oh, is that one where they're in the line out the front and it's like, ah the is this been even good?

43:29.31
Chibbs
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

43:33.00
gav
Is that that one?

43:33.24
Chibbs
Good. And then it's just the look of, like, astonishment on her face.

43:37.16
gav
the that they're like the but but the like one's playing a kazoo one's at the drum kit and it's just the eyes of lit that is one of my fuck that's a great comic meme that is so fucking funny it is I feel like everyone's been at that show that's why it's fucking funny because like every single person has been at a show where they're just like like you're you're you're watching the support or it's just like you're just whatever

43:37.52
Chibbs
And it's two two monkeys.

43:37.75
Bevo
that. It's just like playing kazoo. Yeah.

43:42.18
Chibbs
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

43:47.12
Chibbs
It is so hard to explain why it's funny to people.

43:50.09
Bevo
Yeah.

43:50.91
Chibbs
um You got me... Yeah.

43:54.97
Chibbs
yeah

43:56.03
Bevo
yeah

43:56.73
Chibbs
yeah

44:00.25
Bevo
You can't explain the orangutan with the kazoo in its mouth.

44:04.91
Chibbs
you got me this morning, Bevo, you got me this morning with the baby pelican.

44:07.63
Bevo
With the pelican.

44:10.89
Chibbs
Like that, I ah woke up and and I started, I was crying with laughter and then trying to explain why it was so funny.

44:11.07
Bevo
Thumbs down.

44:19.29
gav
ah

44:23.59
Chibbs
It's impossible to do. It's like, it's a baby pelican, but it's got a thumbs down on it.

44:25.09
Bevo
For me, it's like,

44:28.43
Chibbs
And that's how you can describe it. You go, it's the funniest thing I've ever seen in my entire life.

44:32.01
gav
Ah!

44:33.91
Bevo
I think for me, it's funny because in my head, I hear the price is wrong sound. We'll post it on our

44:37.97
Chibbs
but but damn like these animals are no good ah yeah we'll post those things fucking hell alright yeah

44:46.99
Bevo
socials later.

44:53.55
Bevo
ah Just quickly on the set list before we go, I just wanted to, just a couple of things I think are kind of funny. ah We got the classic Detroit Rock City, blah, blah, blah. I love it loud in brackets. Gene breathes fire.

45:05.84
Bevo
And then heaps later

45:06.27
Chibbs
cool

45:07.16
gav
Oh, God.

45:09.52
Bevo
Bass solo. Gene spits blood.

45:11.77
Chibbs
Oh.

45:13.09
Bevo
and then Love Gun.

45:13.49
Chibbs
Something like that.

45:13.70
gav
and Okay.

45:14.44
Bevo
Paul zip lines to B stage. Yeah.

45:17.09
Chibbs
Wow. Whee! No. Alright.

45:21.28
gav
Did you ever see that South Park episode where they ziplined for the whole fucking thing? Never mind. Fuck it.

45:28.35
Chibbs
What have

45:28.98
gav
It's a good episode.

45:35.33
Chibbs
we got here? Oh, Legacy.

45:35.91
gav
bit legacy? Oh, a bit of...

45:36.83
Chibbs
We got Legacy.

45:37.09
Bevo
it.

45:37.52
Chibbs
We got Legacy.

45:37.55
gav
you got to You got a song for us?

45:40.12
Chibbs
Yeah, ah ah think I think do. Where is it? Hold on. Yeah, sorry. forgot i fucking forgot all about that. Here we are.

45:49.09
gav
ah

45:49.70
Chibbs
Here it is. and it loading? Yeah.

45:54.68
gav
This setup is going to be so much longer than the actual track.

45:57.03
Chibbs
Oh, it's not going to work. Yeah, it's not going to work.

45:59.19
gav
You are fucking killing me.

46:00.16
Chibbs
It will. Yeah, I don't know.

46:01.65
gav
A little bit of legacy.

46:01.83
Chibbs
Yeah. I don't know. I don't.

46:06.40
Bevo
Oh, that's right.

46:07.01
gav
It's like battle metal.

46:07.39
Chibbs
Yeah, I forgot about that.

46:08.01
gav
It's like one of my favorite ones.

46:08.50
Chibbs
I don't know. Yeah, it's not.

46:09.69
gav
It's one of my favorite stingers. You motherfucker. You're teasing me.

46:12.62
Chibbs
Yeah, sorry, yeah.

46:13.27
gav
I'm so edged right now. I just want to release.

46:15.83
Chibbs
Yeah, what a fucking disappointment, is it? um Yeah, it's...

46:19.55
gav
Oh, God. If I had dollar for every time I'd heard that.

46:20.56
Chibbs
I don't know what, that's that's bizarre. Why isn't that working? Anyway, it's not. Weird.

46:26.43
gav
Yeah. Anyway.

46:26.87
Chibbs
ah

46:27.23
gav
A little bit of legacy.

46:27.62
Chibbs
this So... You got it. The studio version of this... um it it it went It was only like number 68 on the charts when it came out, and then the live version comes out, and it's number one.

46:43.83
Chibbs
um Oh, sorry. No. The live version only went to number 12. um

46:50.80
Bevo
Right. 68 is still pretty good too.

46:51.54
Chibbs
Yeah.

46:53.16
Bevo
Like...

46:53.20
Chibbs
I mean, it's all right, I guess. Maybe they had hits before it. I don't know. No, they wouldn't have, would they?

46:58.02
Bevo
Like, could you you couldn't get to 68 now.

47:00.95
Chibbs
I can't do shit!

47:02.70
Bevo
You'd have to, like, there's fucking all 24 tracks of Taylor Swift's bonus album before you have to get to the the rest of the songs on the chart.

47:04.50
gav
ah I didn't do shit.

47:06.45
Chibbs
Yeah.

47:11.54
Chibbs
yeah

47:11.89
gav
Yeah, that's true.

47:13.56
Chibbs
Yeah, so it it got to number 12, the live version, the year after in 76. um And it became the first of six top 20 songs that Kiss had in the 70s. It became their signature song. served as their closing concert number for almost every concert since 1976.

47:31.95
Chibbs
And in 2008, it was named the 16th greatest hard rock song of all time by VH1.

47:32.91
gav
Yep.

47:36.70
Chibbs
Yeah?

47:38.51
Bevo
Fair enough.

47:39.28
Chibbs
You're not disappointed?

47:40.47
gav
Yeah, yeah.

47:41.14
Chibbs
16th? Good? Okay, cool.

47:43.82
Bevo
Says it all.

47:44.06
gav
16th is that?

47:44.26
Bevo
Yep.

47:46.08
Chibbs
Good.

47:47.83
gav
That tracks? ah

47:58.77
Chibbs
Okay, I can tell you that Gene Simmons is worth $400 million. All right.

48:10.39
gav
Okay.

48:11.35
Bevo
Hmm.

48:11.59
Chibbs
ah

48:11.88
gav
I'm surprised that you've let us know that, to be honest.

48:13.81
Bevo
Yeah.

48:13.93
Chibbs
Okay? It's worth $400 million. dollars

48:15.71
Bevo
It's not more considering how his claim to fame is that he is fucking money hungry.

48:16.17
gav
All right.

48:20.81
Chibbs
I mean, that's a lot of money.

48:23.56
Bevo
It's not Rihanna money though.

48:23.67
gav
That is actually, i was going to guess a quarter.

48:24.39
Chibbs
Yeah, but Kiss aren't selling... They're not selling that much shit now, are they? like Probably not for the last 20 years.

48:31.81
gav
fuck no.

48:33.16
Bevo
Yeah.

48:33.86
Chibbs
Yeah.

48:34.80
gav
I was actually going to guess between him and Paul, if they owned the franchise, I was going to guess a quarter billy a piece.

48:34.91
Chibbs
um

48:39.78
gav
So 400 is more than my original guess.

48:40.12
Chibbs
Okay. Well, they get $400 million. Paul Stanley is worth $200 million. dollars

48:47.27
gav
Oh God.

48:47.64
Chibbs
so So Gene has doubled what what Paul's got from his Kiss. They own it together.

48:53.82
gav
Yeah.

48:53.86
Chibbs
So he must be doing something. Peter Criss, the drummer at the time, is worth $5 million. It's a lot less.

49:02.91
gav
Oh Jesus Christ.

49:05.75
Chibbs
Ace Frehley, lead guitarist of Kiss, What is his net worth as of 2025, Bevo?

49:18.06
Bevo
$3 million. dollars

49:20.56
Chibbs
Why?

49:22.25
Bevo
um I've read about, i think his wife took it all. I don't know. I can't remember. Yeah. Yeah.

49:29.70
Chibbs
Okay, so it's a women.

49:30.95
Bevo
it's

49:32.04
Chibbs
Gavin?

49:32.83
gav
ah yeah um Look, I want to go... I want to Let me just... I want...

49:40.81
Chibbs
so Google it.

49:41.07
gav
fuck. I want to... I'm not going to Google it. i I just want to assume that he had a heroin problem.

49:48.47
Chibbs
He did sell

49:51.56
gav
He did sell a star, man.

49:52.83
Bevo
he's still touring and stuff

49:53.49
gav
I reckon he's worth 100 grand. reckon he's worth 100 grand. Yeah.

49:59.18
Chibbs
No, he's worth 1 million.

49:59.43
gav
I feel like he gets...

50:00.76
Chibbs
1 million US. s It really is worth.

50:01.77
Bevo
yeah yeah

50:01.91
gav
ah that then guess what?

50:03.31
Chibbs
Hmm.

50:04.62
gav
I fucking win. so

50:06.74
Chibbs
You do win. You do win. Yeah, he um he had severe severe drug and alcohol problems as well as quitting the band twice during their fucking heyday.

50:15.33
gav
Perfect. Yeah.

50:18.87
Bevo
Yeah, there's um there's albums where he's on the cover, but he's not in on the album.

50:18.94
gav
Yeah. Yeah.

50:22.43
Chibbs
Yeah, so Peter Criss obviously hung around long enough to get five mil, but Ace kept quitting. Probably because of the drugs.

50:32.56
gav
a

50:34.20
Chibbs
I don't know for sure, but I would say it's because of the drugs.

50:35.72
gav
Oh, fuck.

50:37.52
Chibbs
ah well ah

50:39.01
Bevo
ah Dan Southern just sent me a message and said, can you mention that I'm messaging you and that I want you to do a shout out, but not to me, shout out to Horst Cox.

50:49.09
Chibbs
Let's write this shit.

50:52.71
gav
a

50:52.69
Bevo
There you go, Dan. How

51:02.14
Chibbs
Okay, what do we rate it out of? Like, um like

51:06.54
gav
Horse cocks.

51:07.62
Chibbs
all you've got?

51:09.54
Bevo
about

51:12.92
gav
So 10 is all you've got?

51:15.61
Chibbs
is all of you've got, like and including your internal organs.

51:15.98
Bevo
um how but How about we're writing it out of how, what kind of woman you'd want to be.

51:21.74
gav
ha ha

51:25.11
Bevo
One of the ones in the mansion, someone very far away from that mansion.

51:30.29
Chibbs
Ten is you're in the mat you're trapped with Kiss in the mansion and you want to die.

51:31.65
gav
ha. Ha ha ha.

51:36.93
Chibbs
And one is you are on the opposite side of the globe of Kiss's mansion.

51:39.45
gav
One is you're on Guam.

51:41.37
Chibbs
Yeah, yeah.

51:41.41
gav
Yeah.

51:42.58
Bevo
watching them on youtube

51:43.97
Chibbs
Yeah, watching on YouTube saying, I'm glad I'm not in that mansion.

51:48.99
Chibbs
What do you give it?

51:49.20
gav
Shout out to all of our listeners on Guam right now.

51:51.24
Chibbs
Yeah, that's it. What do you give it out of ten, Gav?

51:55.57
gav
um I really, this is one of the hardest, this is one of the hardest I've ever had to think for a rating because I'm like, it's one of those songs that's so well known and I know it so well as fucking everyone does, but do I like it?

52:11.07
gav
And I think at the end of the day, try as hard as I want not to be, I'm just a fucking wheat-gutted dog, mate.

52:23.81
gav
I'm just a wheat-gutted dog.

52:24.06
Chibbs
ah

52:28.34
gav
yeah So, a wheat-gutted dog person. I feel like it's just like... It's so iconic, but at the same time, I'm just like, it's not... It's not my cup of tea.

52:40.45
gav
And if I was going to go either side of it, I would have gone six, but that's close enough to just being a weak gutted dog. So I may as well just take a swing because I'm like, it's, I'm a weak gutted dog.

52:46.64
Chibbs
Yeah, you are a weak kind of dog.

52:50.20
gav
It's, it's, it's it's a campy pop song. And I just, I'm not, yeah.

52:53.66
Chibbs
Hmm.

52:54.79
gav
Meh. Meh.

52:56.45
Chibbs
You're in an and an enigma wrapped in a riddle, Gavin.

52:56.87
gav
Yeah.

52:59.85
Chibbs
Bevo, what do you give it

53:01.41
Bevo
um It'll never make my Spotify wrapped. I'll say that. I didn't even listen to it for the pod. I know it well enough. but ah So I can't give it a one because it won't be that, but I'll give it a one and a half because I really like it.

53:17.24
Chibbs
yeah yeah Yeah, that's all right. um Yeah, I'm going to join you, Bevo. I'll give it a one and a half as well.

53:25.09
Bevo
Nice.

53:25.38
Chibbs
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

53:25.48
gav
ah ha why i five

53:26.79
Bevo
Cool.

53:27.83
Chibbs
Yeah. It's, um, it's...

53:28.67
Bevo
The MTV Unplugged version.

53:29.36
gav
i wish we'd got I wish we got Mad Dog to phone in.

53:30.75
Bevo
Check it out.

53:31.88
gav
I wish we got Mad Dog to phone in and fucking order. i would no I reckon he would have been with me.

53:37.18
Chibbs
Uh... Yeah, I liked it.

53:41.30
Bevo
Great.

53:41.95
Chibbs
Yeah, it is really good. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

53:44.89
Bevo
How do you kiss?

53:45.03
Chibbs
Gav, we got a dog. Let's write that down.

53:48.10
gav
Yeah, no, kids can fuck off.

53:48.39
Chibbs
There you go.

53:50.71
Bevo
Nah, well, they did.

53:50.83
Chibbs
Um... Yeah, they did.

53:52.72
Bevo
They'll be back. See at the hologram show.

53:53.29
Chibbs
Yeah, yeah. Unless they die. um

53:57.57
Bevo
want to talk about that, actually, if we've got a spare minute.

53:59.83
Chibbs
What? Hologram show?

54:00.91
Bevo
Would you go and see, like, iconic bands if it was just holograms of them?

54:01.63
gav
I was...

54:05.30
Chibbs
No.

54:05.31
Bevo
Like, would you go see... You wouldn't see Nirvana, obviously, for obvious reasons, but, like...

54:06.93
gav
Nah. No, fuck no.

54:09.91
Chibbs
Does he shoot himself?

54:12.63
Bevo
Yeah, sure.

54:13.44
gav
Oh, okay, look.

54:13.61
Bevo
Why not?

54:14.71
gav
if like could if i could watch If I could watch a hologram Kurt Cobain put the top of his fucking skull on a roof, I would even do that.

54:19.41
Chibbs
but it' priest but his toe Put his toe through the fucking...

54:21.74
gav
And I like Nirvana.

54:23.43
Chibbs
Yeah. ah

54:24.48
gav
rap Wrap his toe around the finger guard of a shotgun.

54:24.53
Bevo
Okay, let's say... okay let's say

54:27.18
gav
Yeah, fuck. You know, it's...

54:28.99
Bevo
Let's say you have the opportunity to see Jimi Hendrix, like a a full Jimi Hendrix show at a stadium that is just like off a fucking DVD, but they've made it look real that you would go, would you be interested?

54:43.40
gav
So, absolutely not. I would sit at home and watch the fucking DVD.

54:47.72
Chibbs
Yeah, no. No, I wouldn't do it.

54:50.11
Bevo
But the, the atmosphere and the fucking,

54:51.06
gav
I was watching... So, I was watching the live stream... No, fuck that, man. I feel like I was watching the stream of Coachella when they did the Tupac hologram.

55:02.94
gav
And I was like, holy fuck. I was like, this is this is fucking crazy. Like, it was Coachella. Who was on stage? It was Snoop and... Oh, fuck.

55:14.48
gav
I forget who else was on stage.

55:14.59
Chibbs
Biggie.

55:15.52
gav
But either way, they... yeah fucking imagine but and and and then it was like suddenly there was this hologram and it was like tupac was walking around a wrap and rapping it was like what the fuck is going on and it was kind of like it was kind of mind-blowing and i remember being like holy fuck at the time because i was like this is crazy like i didn't realize technology was here and then afterwards

55:19.15
Bevo
ta simmons

55:38.37
gav
the like The next day, I heard people being like, apparently the Beatles are going to tour in pog form. And I was just like, yeah, they like, the hologram is the next big thing.

55:45.86
Bevo
Yeah.

55:46.91
Chibbs
now

55:49.14
gav
There's going stadium shows. And I was just like, instantly, I was like, fucking hate that. I went from being amazed about it to thinking it was the dumbest fucking thing ever in 24 hours.

55:56.99
Bevo
See my, my thing is like, When you go to a stadium show, how much time do you spen spend looking at the fucking big screen anyway?

56:05.91
gav
Yeah. Yeah.

56:07.29
Chibbs
Yeah, I guess

56:07.32
Bevo
Jumbotron, you know? Or like, what if you saw gorillas in concert and it was just the fucking cartoons?

56:09.77
gav
yeah

56:11.75
Chibbs
I wouldn't go.

56:12.27
Bevo
I'm

56:12.79
Chibbs
I've never gone to a guerrilla show because I'm like, I'm not fucking doing it. I'm not going to watch a fucking cartoon on a screen.

56:16.56
Bevo
not watching these cartoons.

56:18.54
Chibbs
Yeah.

56:19.33
gav
So I've seen the gorillas and it wasn't a cartoon on the screen. It was a band playing and it was fucking good.

56:23.62
Chibbs
I'm not watching cartoons.

56:24.09
Bevo
but But what if what if they had animated the cartoon to look like you were watching them on stage?

56:32.45
Chibbs
Nah.

56:33.81
Bevo
All right.

56:33.98
gav
If the band wasn't there playing the music, I would not go see it.

56:34.13
Bevo
See you next week. broke Yeah. I don't know. i Yeah.

56:39.57
gav
Nah, that sounds fucking weird. Nah, don't know. It just sounds...

56:43.34
Bevo
I would.

56:43.87
gav
It's just... I feel like it's...

56:45.12
Chibbs
ah Maybe if they did something weird, like they made them they made them giants or something.

56:45.48
gav
You would? Is that your...

56:51.00
Bevo
I'd give it a chance, I reckon.

56:51.93
gav
They made them all fuck.

56:52.15
Bevo
I'm interested in the idea of it. Like, it's not like not like you're fucking getting the sweat off their forehead anyway.

56:54.83
Chibbs
Yeah.

56:59.56
Bevo
Most of the time if you're at a stadium, you're there for the the atmosphere and everyone's singing along.

57:03.72
gav
But...

57:05.01
Chibbs
Well, no, i'd I'd prefer to see them somewhere smaller, but it's just not possible.

57:09.58
Bevo
true, yeah.

57:10.15
gav
I'm sorry, but this to me this is this to me feels like, Bevo, if you could go to an amazing steak restaurant, it's a venue that usually sells amazing steaks and they they put a picture of a steak in front of you.

57:10.54
Chibbs
Yeah.

57:24.02
gav
you going to pay good money to go seat in front of that picture of a steak?

57:24.40
Bevo
i still and Well, if I'm still full from the steak and I get the taste of the steak in my mouth, then yes.

57:32.46
gav
I just don't think you're getting full from a hologram in the same way you're getting full from a live band on stage.

57:36.43
Chibbs
I also say i want to I want to know that if kisser or a hologram I want to know that there are some women being sexually assaulted backstage

57:47.56
gav
yeah

57:48.32
Bevo
The full authentic experience.

57:48.41
gav
There's a hologram of that as well.

57:48.43
Chibbs
alright if you're backstage they ah holygra holograms of sexual assault thanks fellas everyone else go and get fucked

57:49.41
gav
if you go If you go backstage, you can pay for the VIP backstage experience. Holograms that you can assault.