Adulting Decrypted

S-6 E-3 How to Get What You Want

• Roscoe Allen • Season 6 • Episode 3

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Ashton:

it does in the sense that I'm not honoring it cuz like, I'm not honoring a goal that I've, I set for myself. I think to me, to me personally, I would agree that

The Dad:

I'd agree with, yeah, I'd agree with your, your statement saying I'm not honoring my bigger goal, my bigger why is to do music. Right. But when you say it doesn't honor my degree, who freaking cares What matters is, does it?

Ashton:

Does it honor? Well, I, because I worked on it, you know, but

The Dad:

But does it honor where you want to go? Right, right. That's a real question. Can live your life. Last night, mom and I, mom and I were coming in the house when we heard click, click, click. I'm like, oh, somebody's practicing a drum. And she goes, only Ashton's that good.

Ashton:

I can't tell you how relieved grandma and grandpa were that I didn't own a drum set. They thought I, they thought I had one. They're like, oh, weren't you supposed to be moving in a drum set too? It's like, I haven't had a drum set in years. Never have I ever. Have you seen the clown that hides from stupid people? Gideon? I have, yeah.

Gideon:

He's hiding from me right now.

Ashton:

I found an apartment in Layton that I might be able to get for 300 a month. Oh, good. Which would be awesome.

The Dad:

And who's that? Is that by yourself or is

Ashton:

that still It's a private room. Yeah. Private room in somebody's house. Shared house, yeah. So there's like, it's a co-ed. There's about six people living in there. I'd be one of six. Yeah. Do you know anything

The Dad:

about the people living in there?

Ashton:

Nope. But I know it was like in the perfect spot and at a great price, so I was like, please, tell me more. But I haven't, haven't heard back yet, so we'll see. All right. I wouldn't be surprised if it goes super quick, which makes me kind of nervous, but it's okay.

The Dad:

So we're starting season six. Season six episode one launch Now we've waited four months.

Ashton:

That's our normal upload time, isn't it? No one every four months. That's standard podcasting.

The Dad:

Pretty standard. Yeah. I think this will get us a lot of followers. Holy C. Season six. That's insane. Season six, episode three, technically Have you ever thought about how to get what you really want? Yeah. I've wondered. I think it's an interesting time that we're sent down to podcast. Some big things have happened. Ashton. Yes. What's big new in your life? Big and new in last,

Ashton:

since last recording. Ooh. well, the biggest, newest thing is I have graduated college. You're an officially an adult. Officially. Yeah. Is that what it is? Is that, I don't know. I think you get that card before then. Yeah, I was gonna say it feels like adulting for a bit, but then again, I still feel like I haven't adult at all, so I will see. There you go. We'll see where it lands.

The Dad:

So listener, as you know, we've, we haven't been releasing on our normal schedule and, had a lot to do with Ashton's life. Sorry, y'all. Right. How many credit hours again

Ashton:

was it? So the full synopsis, just dropping it and dropping it down. How it was, I was

The Dad:

taking down how it was just like you normally

Ashton:

talk. Yeah. Is, I was taking, it was 18 or 19 credit hours, I was doing a senior recital, which is like the capstone project for a, for a music major. Basically you just play 45 minutes of music on your own.

The Dad:

I wouldn't say just, it was pretty impressive performance. It wasn't just show up and you played 45 minutes. It was a performance. Yeah, yeah. With the beginning, middle, and an end.

Ashton:

Learn, learn a lot of music for that. And then there was also a lot of working to pay for it all in the midst of all that. Teaching and other odd jobs and such.

The Dad:

What was the, what was the main way you were working towards paying for that originally?

Ashton:

Well, I mean, I did a lot of snow removal this, this winter. Did a ton. Pulled some very long days, long

The Dad:

weeks. Yep. And it, and it kept going, but, you had ran out of time to be able to finish your, your big goals and you had to shift, right? You had to dig in deep Yep. And figure out what you wanted.

Ashton:

Yeah, it was, well because it was, it was one of those things where I made a plan. Hey, you know what, I'll use this to make some extra money on the side. And then the extra money on the side became a lot of work in the present. And then it became, basically, I just, it was very clearly too much stuff to do at once. So, had to shift priorities, make a couple sacrifices and such, and yeah, made

The Dad:

it work. Gideon, what you've been up to?

Gideon:

I just graduated high school, so like I had to, oh crap. No, I didn't back that up. Sorry, sorry, sorry. I was like whole time. I did not graduate high school. That's new for you. man, I don't know what's wrong with my brain.

Ashton:

I, you didn't graduate high school? It's not fully developed yet,

Gideon:

yet. I did not graduate high school. I just finished my junior year, so I just got, I just got senior year left.

The Dad:

But you also, Applied for or got into a different program? Tell us about

Gideon:

that. yeah, so, half of my school days, my senior year, I'm going to Mtech, which is a mountain technological engineering college, and it's just like, I don't know, it's like 15, 20 minutes away from the high school. So I go to the high school for the first two periods, and then the second two periods I go over to. To Mtech and I have a class on digital marketing and analytics, so I get to do that, next year and get, get a degree before I graduate. So that's, so that's

The Dad:

pretty fun. No, that's really exciting. I it's really gonna help towards your bigger purpose as well. And that's one thing that's exciting for the listener to know that Yeah. Ashton's adult or adulting in the processor of by graduating, doing the effort and, and. And working extra long hours to get that done. Gideon's made a plan that doesn't entail hard college as far as getting a solid degree after high school, but he's got a plan to get specialized skills and training. So I think you both have some ideas on how to get what you want. What would you say the top thing, if you were to rank them to get what you want in life? What's, what's like the first, I wouldn't even just Ashton, what do you think is first and getting, what do you think is first, like your top priority?

Ashton:

So like what to do to. Go after that top priority? Is that the question you answered?

The Dad:

Yeah. How, yeah, how do you, you know, really how do you get what you

Ashton:

want? I think the top priority is to do what you want. If you wanna get what you want, you gotta do what you want to, to get. So, like, for me, interesting. Yeah. For me it was a lot of like, Like when it, when it came to graduating, like to, to get what I wanted, which was a degree, I had to do the work to get that degree and there's like nothing else to it. And I like that. And that's, and that's why the, the doing the extra job with it was an extra job doing the job. On the side of, of snow removal. That's why eventually I had to fold cuz I realized I wasn't doing what I needed to do to get what I wanted, even though it was helping me, like afford getting what I wanted it. Like it reached a point where those two things couldn't coexist. So I had to say, you know what? I have to do what I want to get what I want. I like that. So I think priority one. Yeah, just, just do what you want.

The Dad:

Do it. Yeah. I think that that's a simplified version. I'd agree. Gideon, I say simplified. There was a lot of detail behind it. Sure, yeah. Sure. Gideon.

Gideon:

just like what you need to do to get what you want. Mm-hmm. I think it's a lot simpler than I often make it. And it's the most important step is just starting. And it doesn't matter what you start or what you do, you just start moving. Cuz if you like, if you spend too much time thinking, you're not gonna actually do anything. So the most important step

The Dad:

is just to start. Yeah, I, I think that's fair. To back up. I think there's one, one step before either one of those is to set the clear goal, right? If I was to set back and go, what's most important, Ash, when I asked you the question, your brain went to your senior year of college. Yeah. You had already set that goal. Sure. Right? You knew what the goal was. Yeah, and and I think Gideon, that's where sometimes you struggle. You're going, yeah, but what could the goal be? There could be five different goals. Right? I go five different ways. What is it? And they're like, so I just need to start one of them. Is that fair? Did I capture that feeling correct? No, I think you got it. So, you know, really having a very specific goal, I think helps you focus your efforts and, and gives you a great direction. Ashton, did you write down that goal of graduating

Ashton:

college? I did at some point. I mean, did you, during the last semester, that writing wasn't present anywhere in my life. Right. But I'm sure Cause you didn't

The Dad:

need to, it was already done, right? No, it was, it was like, I'm well on this path. This is my goal. Did you review it often? I. Nope. I see. This is where I kinda disagree with it. I mean, yes, but no. There you go. Yeah. You didn't write, you didn't review the written

Ashton:

goal. No, but the internal goal was No. Every day it was like, I have got to freaking graduate college. I have no other choice. What,

The Dad:

what? What became my saying? That I'd tell you over and over seizes. The day. Oh, seas get degrees.

Ashton:

Oh yeah. Wrong type of seizes there. Seizes the day

The Dad:

works too though. Yeah. Seizes of the day. So, other goals though, I do have to write down, right? Because, and I, and I need to review'em often, especially when it's a brand new start. You're like, look, I'm not in a good cadence. I don't know what I really want. So you set the goal. it's interesting, I th I'm gonna back up one step. Sometimes we go to set that goal. There's, there's multiple ways we could go and so we sometimes freeze. I believe we freeze for one of two reasons. One is we're scared, and the other one is because we're not really clear on what we want. Now you could put procrastination in either one of those buckets at times. Do you agree or disagree with that? That sometimes not going forward or setting those goals is cuz we're scared or we we're not clear on what we want.

Ashton:

I think so this is funny that we're talking about that because I'm exactly in the position oh, I finished college. That was, that's been the big goal. So it's a fresh start and I was thinking about it a lot last night and I couldn't sleep and I, you know, I'd always, you know, always write down the goals because in my brain it was like, you know, I have ideas of what I want to do, but the clarity of, of specifics wasn't, didn't exist. And I don't know if it doesn't exist in its fullest, but like last night I wrote down a bunch of different goals and taped them on a, on a wall, just so I could like check'em out. But I think the hardest thing for me personally is, is. Is probably clarity or specifics when it comes to something that I have to personally structure. Graduating college. Once you say that's your goal, or graduating, you know, anything high school's the same where you say, oh, I want to graduate. Well, okay, take those classes, do them, and you'll graduate. Congratulations. But if you have a different goal that's on your own, you want to build something up, there's no instruction manual. There's plenty of advice. But the clarity is not, not necessarily there. So finding that on your own, I'd say is probably the more difficult part.

The Dad:

really clarity or scared. So as you really believe that sometimes it's just clarity and, and trying to find that clarity.

Gideon:

You from wanting to go forward. I mean it could always be a little bit of both,

The Dad:

but Totally. But, but do they mostly See, I used to think people were lazy. A lot of times I would like, oh, that person's lazy. But then as I really think about it, most people probably. The, the, they could be lazy. Let's be honest. There's probably a small percentage of people that are truly lazy, but I think most people can't get clear on what they want. And then the other one is they're scared, of rejection or failure or what if I really go after this and I don't succeed?

Ashton:

Yeah. Well on the other one without being lazy is it could be the fear of the amount of work something's actually going to take.

The Dad:

Now he's scared.

Ashton:

Right, right. Well that's what I'm just saying. Gets another example of scared. Yeah. outside of

The Dad:

Listener, I challenge you to write us, tell us I is the data up in the night on this one that most people don't accomplish their goals cuz they're. Not don't have clarity or they're scared. That's just my personal experience. So then you've set this goal, you've got a goal, you're like, Hey, this is what I'm gonna do. What do you have to do after you've said, okay, what's a goal that we feel comfortable sharing with the group? For example, my goal for 2023 was mobility. Right. I wanted to be able to touch my toes, which I have, I got to in April, and then all of a sudden now we're in June and I've retro grasped, and now I can't touch my toes without balancing. I can see my toes, but not touch my toes. so, so what's, you know, what's the next step is develop a plan, right? What are some of the plans around your goals that you could set? Well,

Ashton:

that's the, that's the part that I'm, I've gotta figure out next, because right now, like when I graduated school, I've been telling myself ever since that I don't wanna work for anyone or anything unless it's in the industry of what I'm trying to accomplish. Because, because if I start working for something else, it makes my degree null and void. well, if it's just

The Dad:

about honoring your degree, why do you care? Well, I,

Ashton:

well, because the large part of getting the degree is because it's what I wanted to do. So it's like,

The Dad:

so, so it's not that, that it takes away from your what, so it doesn't make your degree less valuable? Well, I,

Ashton:

it does in the sense that I'm not honoring it cuz like, I'm not honoring a goal that I've, I set for myself. I think to me, to me personally, I would agree that

The Dad:

I'd agree with, yeah, I'd agree with your, your statement saying I'm not honoring my bigger goal, my bigger why is to PR to do music. Right. But when you say it doesn't honor my degree, who freaking cares What matters is, does it?

Ashton:

Does it honor? Well, I, because I worked on it, you know, but

The Dad:

But does it honor where you want to go? Right, right. That's a real question.

Ashton:

Right. Well, and I guess I use, I use the degree cuz Sure. The deeper question is there. I use the degree cuz it's one of those I. A lot of, a lot of my musicals have been very heady where they, they only exist in my brain. Like saying I want to be a film composer is something that I can at the moment, like imagine and have the small, like projects that I've done as proof of evidence and the largest proof of evidence that I have right now that I can accomplish what I want to do is the fact that I was able to earn a degree. So I think valuing that degree by saying, Hey, you know what? I'm gonna keep going after these sorts of things is like another, it's like, it's, it's not only validating the work that I've done, but then it's also saying, you know what, it's, it's validating the past me to continue on the path towards those goals. Okay.

The Dad:

That makes sense. Yeah, it does, it does to me. Makes sense to you, Gideon?

Ashton:

Whereas if I, if I turn around and say, well, I'm just gonna go back to what I was doing when I took a break during school, which was working, and then after work coming home and working on my own personal projects, like that's just as powerful. I mean, I can do that as well. I could. But at the same time, it's like, well, if I was able to put in that much work and get this big of an accomplishment, I can use that as a stepping stone to not have to go back to what I was doing before. I love it, if that makes sense.

The Dad:

Yeah. Well, you're really in the develop the plan stage, right? And so you're saying, Hey, hey, how do I make enough money to survive in my degree, in my chosen area to honor my, my past self? That said, I want to be a, a film composer. I. And all the work that I've done to get to this point. So now how do I make a plan to continue in my next step? What's your next step? Now? Probably has monetary stuff tied to it. Yeah,

Ashton:

well it has to,

The Dad:

right? But yeah, because you're an adult, so you need to go through and set a budget, and that's part of the plan. Okay, I need to make four grand a month. How am I going to get there? Can I earn four grand a month working in my chosen field or, and maybe it's$40,000 a year, I'm making up a number. You divide that by 12, say that's what I need to make a month. Some months are gonna make$6,400 and some months are gonna make nothing. And you just need to know that you've got the plan. So develop a plan. Any other thoughts on developing plans? Stuff you guys have seen work didn't work.

Ashton:

I think like you can take school as a model because it's all like, school is all goal plan based. The goal is a degree. The plan is what the classes you have to take. you can, you can take whatever goal you have and deviate up into steps that you see fit. Sometimes the pass will be clearer than others. But like, if a path seems like it's gonna help you, if steps, steps in that plan are gonna help you, you can just follow them, set them, plan on them. But if you have to change how those steps look along the way, that's, that's okay too. Because like in my degree, I started as an education major, and then switched over to performance. It's the same thing. The goal, the goal changed slightly, therefore the plan changed slightly. and that's okay. So like, once you set a goal on a plan, say you get a third of the way through halfway through and you're like, oh, this isn't working for me anymore. Fine. The goal was to work for you anyway, so just change it. It doesn't matter.

The Dad:

Right? And that, and I, and that's step number three is what Gideon started with, which was what, what did we start talking about when, when we first started talking? Your answer to what, how to get what you want. Okay.

Ashton:

I was confused.

The Dad:

What was it? Take action. Oh yeah. What, what actions are you taking towards your goals right now? What actions am I taking? Mm-hmm.

Gideon:

I'm going to the gym and I'm just recording random stuff day to day.

The Dad:

Good. So we're taking actions, right? So I'd like that you Ash, and even in your conversation you said you developed the plan, you start moving down that plan's path, you're taking actions, and then you find out. Oh, the goal's kind of changing a little bit. Some people would say, you don't wanna hear God laugh, make, tell'em your plans. Right? I've heard that from cynical people all the time. But the reality is, is everything is changing. We're in a constant state of change. We as individuals, you know, the reason why you celebrate birthday is because you're still not the same age. You've changed, you know, your body's regenerating organisms and cells and the world is changing you. You don't have to go far to realize how much has changed here, just in our little subdivision or in our little state with all the people that are moving in, and you know, it's always changing. So your plan has to be adaptive. But it doesn't mean that you have to change your final goal, right? Yeah. I, I just think that, that, that taking action is so critical. Af and, and then to go back and look at your plan, right? It's that, go back and re review any thought, any more thoughts on actions. You know, you got your goal, you goal, you get your plan, you start your actions.

Ashton:

I think going back to the, the quote, tell if you wanna make God laugh, tell him your plans. it made me think of just a couple things, like one, I think it's Matthew McConaughey, when he was asked who his hero was, it was him in five years. Love it. And then five years later people asked him again and he was like, oh yeah, me. In five years I've thought about that. I haven't been able to do that to myself. Haven't made it valuable. You know, been able, like me in five years, that's my hero. And I'm like, doesn't really land for me. But something that did land for me recently is there's this popular YouTube creator Mark Rober. And he, he used to be an engineer for nasa. And then, became a full-time YouTube creator, engineering interesting science projects. The one he's most famous for is he created, The glitter bomb. Yeah. Glitter bombs. Is that really him? Yeah, that's him. Oh, I totally was guessing. That's, yeah, I was trying to figure out how to say it, but yeah. Glitter bomb. Like for the porch pirates, he put it out there and they'd steal it and they'd get sprayed with fart spray. Yeah. Him. So he, he just recently gave a commencement speech at mit, which I'd recommend people listen to, and it's, it's engineer focused, but, The real interesting concept that he did is he said, you guys know I like to make my videos. I plan out in advance. He goes, I already know what I'm gonna make for. I think the year he put it out there was 2050 something. He's like, I know what my video idea is for 2050 something, and it's. Gonna be you guys in 30 years. And so he was like, he was like, everyone in this crowd is eligible to be in that video, but the people are gonna be featured are the ones who've taken something with their degree and done something with it. And so like, it was just interesting to really

The Dad:

laid down the gauntlet. The challenge, huh?

Ashton:

Yeah. And it was like, it was like really uplifting and positive. It wasn't like, well, if you're not good, you're not gonna, but it was more of like, He's like, 30 years is a long time. You can do a lot and it'd be so fun in 30 years to see each other again and tell us, tell, like tell each other what we did. and for me I was like, that's, that's such an interesting way to think about it cuz it's, it's like the same principle as the McConaughey like hero of is me in five years. But it's like there's so much that you can do over the 30 years and for me it was. Just, just really interesting to think how as that goes, your plans will change, you know, and the hero you will change and all that. It just was interesting. Yeah.

The Dad:

Thanks for bringing that back, because I think it's critical that the listener understands and in getting you understand that your. The thing that currently gets you to think deeper. For Ashton, it was this, commencement speech. Matthew McConaughey's conversation says, he's my hero in five years as me was interesting, right? It piqued your curiosity, but it didn't move you to action. When you heard this other gentleman speak, you go, okay, I moved to action. Cuz that's powerful, right? Yeah. I, I, I like that. And that's leading right into my next one. But before I want to, before we move, that action step is so critical. I think of shooting a bow and arrow, right? You know exactly what you're aiming at. You draw back, you're ready to go. But until you release that arrow, you can't hit the bullseye, right? You can't tell if you were even flipping gloves. There's times you're like, Oh, I let go of that arrow I shot. for the listener, we, we love to shoot our bows. Yes, we bow hunt, but we also just go out and shoot. We target practice a lot because it's just relaxing. But to side in a bow is quite a, quite a feat and I couldn't pick up Gideon's bow and shoot it just, you know, as far as an analogy one cuz you're. Left eye dominant. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah. And, and, and not only are you left eye dominant, but you shoot left-handed. Yeah. And, and, I shoot right-handed, so therefore I couldn't pick up his bow and shoot. He could pick up the rifle and shoot the same rifle I shoot, but he couldn't shoot a bow because they're set up. So that's one. But even if Ashton and you, and you and, Gideon both shoot left eye, left hand, could you guys pick up each other's bow and hit exact bulls eyes? No. Nope. No. Why?

Ashton:

Why is that? Because we're built different, different

The Dad:

sized people. Correct. So when you set a bow up, you actually have to set it up to your, your height line of your eye. The, the, the draw length of your arm. You know, all these things take into consideration. That's why I like talking about Bo Bow and shooting versus shooting a rifle, right? I can hand a rifle to anybody and they could, they should be able to hit the same target, same process. But a bow is so accustomed to me, just like your goals are ed to you. Therefore, your plans are custom to you. But you've gotta release that arrow. You've gotta take action. You're never gonna get feedback. You're gonna say, oh, I want to date the pretty girl in school. But if I never shoot the, if I never take my shot, if I never try and get told no or shoot my arrow into the dirt, say, okay, that didn't work right. Let me change my plan. My plan is still the same, my goal is still the same, but I've gotta see what actions I need to take that are a little bit different. Right? How do I realign a few steps? Then, and that leads me into my next observation. I think persistence and resilience. You know,, I, I love that the three of us share the vernacular of the valley despair, so, Right. We've used it. Anybody who wants to give the listener a 32nd valley despair like

Ashton:

Ashton's. Got it. Yeah, I got it. 32nd. You work on a project for a really long time or a goal, you'll have a moment of. Like, oh, shoot, unexperienced optimism. And then as you get more experienced, you realize that a challenge is more difficult than you thought. So you get experienced pessimism, and then as you're continually working, you get stuck in the valley despair. And then the moment you break through the, the valley of despair is a turning point. You can either keep forward and have a sudden breakthrough and achieve your goal, or you can turn around and start the whole process over again, or quit. Yeah. Or quit. Sure. and then, so the value of despair is, is the turning point. Are you going to continue with the goal or are you going to, turn around, do something else?

The Dad:

Great, great. Thank you. I, I love that you talked about the optimism. You just set these new goals. You woke up last night, you stayed up late. You write it down, you take some action, you're like, wow, I feel really good. How do you feel tomorrow? How do you feel on Friday? Saturday, right? Maybe still good. Maybe it's still like, Hey, I'm gonna be eating clean. Woo. I've had no chips, or I've had no salsa. You show up for Father's Day Supper and the next thing you know there's chips, salsa, cookies. Then you go into the Valley despair and go, okay, do I quit? Do I restart? Do I make a different plan? Which is give myself one cheat date, you know, whatev, whatever it is. You know, you develop the plan that's based off you. Persistence and resilience, I can't talk about enough. I think that we forget, the common saying that I, I, I used to credit to Bill Gates, and then the last couple weeks I found out that it's probably an older saying, but we all. Overestimate what we can get done in a day. We underestimate what we can get done in five years, 10 years because how often have I gone up to the cabin? And, and I don't need an answer for this cuz I know you both will raise your hand and say, we're going to get these 50 projects done. Or, or let's even make it realistic we're gonna get these five projects done. Cuz that's not uncommon for me to do. Yep. And we get how many done? Two, two half of one sometimes, cuz they're so big, right? I under, I overestimate. Holy cow, if we just dig in, we can get all this done. We start working and we've worked early and we've worked late and we're going, yeah, we can't get it done, you know, or this project, we don't have all the skill set or we're missing tools or, But if I, if we continually apply pressure and persistently show up, we get these projects are finally getting done, right. The, the house inside the house is almost to where it's safe for little kids to run around. I say almost cuz there's a handful of things that I need to fix still, but I'm down to like two. Versus even last weekend, going into last weekend, how many did I have? Probably eight projects still open, you know. So, we just have to look at that and say, okay, we're gonna continually push effort, put and be persistent, and, we resilient, realize that we're gonna get told no. We're gonna throw an arrow in the dirt. We're gonna lose an arrow. We're gonna break an arrow, you know, we're going to set a bad plan. We're gonna not record for six months. You know what? Whatever

Ashton:

it is that's part of the plan. But that's fair. No. What? Well, it had to

The Dad:

become part of the plan. Yeah. It wasn't our plan last. It wasn't part of our plan. when we bought the, the Grow Your Show. Yeah. You know, we paid all that money to, to get in his program, but then we realized crap with everything else that's going on with my job uncertainty with all this, we needed to have you go earn your money outside of, you know, the podcast and then, We had to change our plan. We threw an arrow in the dirt, we broke an arrow. Who cares? Right? We know what we really want to get outta this. Is that fair? Yep. Yep. I don't know that it's fair, but it's what we have to deal with. Yep. We can go through. Fair. And then, and then I think the other, the, the last thing I'd like to talk about is just communication and collaboration. Like share our goals, talk to people, write into us, hit us up on social media, follow us on Reddit. Hey guys, I'm struggling with blah, blah, blah, whatever. Guess what? Ashton hit it on the head. I just got into really audience engagement. Ashton hit on the head, he goes, dad, you love that stuff. Why do I love it? Because I've lived it and I truly believe. That it's, it, it's harder than we think it should be, but it ea it's easier than we perceive at times. Right. So I would love to be your sounding board. Ashton Gide in we'll all, we'll all chip in and, and share with you the listener, our advice and our thought process. But feel free to communicate the reality is these goals are important. This project is important. Whatever it is that you're trying to accomplish is important. Our podcast is important. Therefore, we're gonna keep making new plans. We're gonna develop, we're gonna fix, and we're gonna move on and continue to to have success.