The Shibboleth Jam Podcast with Sasha and Travis Episode #1 ~ Maintaining weight loss motivation during crisis.

Welcome to our first podcast as a husband and wife team.  In this inaugural podcast, we take a look at maintaining weight loss motivation during a crisis.  The coronavirus crisis has mandated a new normal for all of us.  We can use this as an opportunity to learn, grow and do better or allow this crisis to set us back.  We say, "let's turn lemons into lemonade" and become healthier, leaner, stronger and happier.  

Transcript

00:01 Introducing Travis
01:55 Why we choose to do a podcast?
03:31 Travis’ Journey 
07:11 Results achieved by Sasha 
09:00 What Sasha thinks about Travis!
12:31 About Shibboleth Ministry
12:44 How to join in for our Class
13:30 What to do to catch Travis Live
19:38 Travis’ way-out for Getting over the Current Corona Virus Crisis ~ I COME FIRST!
26:33 Where do people go wrong ~ The Nutrition Part
28:55 “If You don't love yourself, you can't love someone else”
30:11 The crises will never end, want to live your best life? then you're gonna have to learn!
32:26 Got No Bread? 
39:40 Stand with your shoulders held high.
42:15 “If you think that they're going to treat you better than you treat yourself, you're sadly mistaken.”
49:11 Having Less Variety is better or not? Flexibility of the Shibboleth Program.
58:56 Advantages of the education provided in Shibboleth
1:11:42 You gotta work on other sources of pleasure rather than food 
1:13:23 How difficult is it?
1:15:35 “It's not just about the food. It's about all the life stuff.”
1:16:31 Upcoming Segments of our Podcast
1:18:04 Our Lifetime Membership Special
1:18:57 Advocare Spark
1:19:30 ShibbolethMeals.com
1:22:09 Closing

Transcript

spk_0:   0:00
Travis has a background in sports, nutrition, wellness, education, behavior modification and Christian counseling. Travis spent the first half of his life battling with obesity himself and dealing with the unintended consequences of obesity, diabetes, heart disease, acid reflux and depression. He overcame obesity by faith, nutrition, education, self discipline and with the ship Elif lifestyle. Travis has spent the last two decades educating and inspiring tens of thousands of other men, women and Children to begin their own weight loss and wellness transformations. The shibboleth lifestyle is the number one weight loss and wellness lifestyle on the Internet. Join us today and welcome to the podcast. Hey,

spk_1:   0:52
everybody, Welcome to the Shiva Bowl of Jam podcast. My name is

spk_0:   0:57
Travis and I'm Sasha. That's pretty cool, baby. I've got

spk_1:   1:02
you own a podcast with me. Finally, we've been talking about doing this. For how long? My gosh.

spk_0:   1:08
Uh, what what year are we in now? It's it's been many, many years.

spk_1:   1:13
Yeah, but just went by really fast.

spk_0:   1:15
I don't mean to sound like it's

spk_1:   1:16
been many. No, e went by really

spk_0:   1:21
10 years. I've been talking about it,

spk_1:   1:23
but yeah. Oh, goodness gracious. So we started She Bola together. 2013. Here we are, 2020 in quarantine, not quarantine, but in Corona virus locked down. So what

spk_0:   1:38
better time to start exactly. Been putting off?

spk_1:   1:41
Exactly. Wait, no, it's not all about us, but in the dimension we live in our mind. Uh, this was God's way of saying y'all can finally get started on that podcast. One of one of the reasons I've wanted to do a podcast is I think you have to meet people where they are. And some folks learn better with video short videos. Some people learn better with a little longer video. But steel, oftentimes enough, can't get said in a short or even an hour video. And you see more and more people going to this long form format so that you could get a lot more out there, and it just makes it, I think, a good medium for people to download and listen to when they can. They don't have to watch video that kind of sneak it in. I've heard people say they like podcast because if they're watching a YouTube video or something like that, they can't sneak it in at work. You rascally rabbits out there trying to sneak it in. But that's good. That's good, because this is important stuff that we're going to talk about. This being our first she Bola Jam podcast. We want to talk a little bit about what got us here from standpoint of. We were overweight. We wanted to lose weight. So I'll start. I have done this more than Sasha. So

spk_0:   3:11
I'm gonna let you give her a minute to

spk_1:   3:13
swallow hard and get ready for her time. But just so you know who you're talking to and I hope you'll look at this podcast like you're sitting around the table with Sasha and I were just talking weight loss and wellness and faith and having a good time with it, too. But myself, I lost over £100. Living the Shiva bowl of lifestyle. Come off multiple prescription medications, high blood pressure medication, high cholesterol medication, diabetic medications to control my blood sugar, acid reflux medications, depression, medications. And you know, mostly, I would say the most important thing the program done for me was give me something I never had, which was self esteem, self confidence that's been the most meaningful parts of my journey here we are, Many years later, after I said I lost my way in 2000 by the end of about 2000 and that started in 2003 teaching other people how to do this. And here we sit with members. Um, our members have recorded more than £3 million of fat loss in just the last few years. So pretty remarkable journey. Blessed be the name of Lord Sasha. You've had good results that you weren't only prescriptions or anything, but tell us about the weight that you lost with the program and what got you started with even wanting to lose weight.

spk_0:   4:40
Uh, you're, um you put that all in a nice walnut shell? Um, my e. I probably was. My journey was not really so much about losing weight. Initially, I think I was trying to find some purpose in my life. So my weight was had always been about the heavier girl in high school and all that it felt everybody felt like an Amazon woman around a lot. The girls that I knew and so So I, uh I really didn't I really don't think too much about lose and wait. I just sort of accepted. That's the way that I I was. But I know after I after I had two kids and my, um my second child, I had, um when she was about 10 years old, probably I had gained back up to the weight I was when I was giving birth to her. So I kind of knew. Okay, Something's got to change her. I'm gonna keep going in a bad direction. And I was also working in corporate America and really feeling like I had to work. Um, not feeling very good about what I was doing for people. I just felt like I need to do. I wanted if I was gonna work that hard. I really want to give something back and be able to do something that was more meaningful in this world. So So I think those two kind of went together because I quit my day job and I invested in a, um Thea Curves for women. The franchise at that time is 2007 ish, I think, And, um, at that time, everybody knows what happened then, um so I just kind of started when I started doing that. I've lost a little bit of weight, but I was trying to help women, and I couldn't really dig my feet in because I was also trying to keep the lights on and all of that other stuff that goes along with it. So, um, I came across you, um, so I was trying Thio, you know, I really want to teach people how to take care of themselves, but I didn't have the resources to do it. I thought exercise was gonna be it, but holy cow nutrition was I did not want to have to learn nutrition, But you were teaching under a different name and you were doing your own, you know, you just your of your baby. So somebody convinced me to go hear you talk about what you were doing, and I just thought I'd I don't know what this guy's doing, But he sounds excited. It's I'm excited about it. I just wanna I want to be part of this and and learn what you learn, what you know so that I could apply that to my life. It sounded honest and just send it like there's real food. If I can't do this than you know if I can have peanut butter. I always say this if I could have peanut butter bread and she's all under the same, like quote unquote diet than I can figure this out. So So I started it with a group of women from my gym, and I ended up losing, um, £18 in seven weeks, and then I went on to lose £42. Michael was £20. So now, still, 10 years later, I'm less than I was in high school, so I'm pretty happy with that result. I'm shaking. Can you hear me? Oh,

spk_1:   7:32
great. I've always wanted to do this with you. And I'm glad that you're in my life. You In many ways, you saved my life. You definitely saved my potential. You have always been an encourager. That's for a different podcast. Um, I'm I'm sure that we will talk about each other a lot because we've talked about this in the past. Um, and we won't talk about a lot today, But not you. No way. Both come from other relationships, and we've often talked about how good our relationships looked on the outside, but on the inside. There was some trouble. There was some challenges that we had. And, you know, we talked about how a lot of people don't live authentically, and there's more trouble inside than anyone knows about. But what I love about our relationship is it's pretty darn authentic. You're an encourager, eyes happy If we betray ourselves to be to the outside world, We're really happy inside the home. Not that is perfect where you are, babe. I'm not.

spk_0:   8:47
But that's what I thought

spk_1:   8:48
you were going. Yeah, but, you know, it's, uh we've got it. We've got this great life, and, um, we're just We're just blessed. We're blessed.

spk_0:   8:58
Well, what's so great about you if I can just sort of interject is that you're never with what you Whatever you're feeling is out there on your, you know, on your on your arm at your fingertips. You don't hide much of anything from anybody as far as how you're feeling. And it's really taught me toe express myself more. And I was sort of a shell. I kept everything really pretty closed up. And I told you when I first met you, I'm a support person on the background. I'd like to be in the back. Don't talk to me. I mean, you talk to me, I'll speak. I don't really like Thio. Offer my opinion, even about much. I was very, um I'm still pretty shy, but I was very introverted, but really had a extroverted heart like I wanted to be. I wanted to do and help and help wherever I could help. But you, you being so open in our relationship even just with telling your feelings. And it really took an adjustment for me to realize that there's nothing hidden in there, his whole sort of put out there for me to process and you to process a process together. And I think both of us realized from our previous relationships was that there was so much that was unsaid. And Annette explored because you didn't talk about it.

spk_1:   10:10
And that's no one's natural. No. One?

spk_0:   10:14
No, no, but it's so many relationships suffer because of that. And you don't even know the questions to ask, you know?

spk_1:   10:21
Yeah, They're coming on here to listen about weight loss and wellness, but we decided we're gonna talk about what? What we felt The spirit led us to talk about and you know, you. I think this does have to do with wellness, wellness in a relationship, wellness with your physical body. One of the things you and I talked about some time ago was that we wanted a relationship, and they're hard to find hard. It takes a lot of hard work, but it does have to do with overall wellness. We discussed. We had this really deep conversation about. We wanted to be able to talk to each other about anything and everything without judgment and without fear of repercussion. And that's made a huge difference, I think, in our ability to communicate because there were things that I wasn't sharing with you. That after we had that conversation, I was able to share with you into my surprise. You accepted and vice versa. And in the hole is like the floodgates opened up the floodgates of communication. We were able to really share the most hidden in dark parts of our heart and bring them to the light. And, boy, that just really that's a whole nother podcast.

spk_0:   11:35
Good stuff, huh? No, I think if you're once you know that what I've learned is, if you really are carrying for somebody love somebody, that when they are expressing and deepest emotions and their heart, and it may be something that maybe you didn't think that you would agree with or know or understand. But once you see that genuine thoughtfulness in them and the honesty that they're giving you a trusting you with it, it's amazing. And I do think what we're doing, a shovel it. It has allowed people to grow in so many more ways than just, um, we're losing weight. It's been such emotional for us. I think Shovel it has even made us a better couple.

spk_1:   12:14
Oh, yeah, yeah, definitely. And getting better every day. Getting better of that. Let's let's shift gears for a moment. And, uh, before we get started, we want to do some housekeeping in the Shiva Bowl. A jam podcast number one First off every class that we teach every weight loss and wellness class, the first class is always free. We're a ministry first and foremost. If you like Tous painting, one of our class is simply go to Travis martin dot tv. We've got a 1,000,000 different websites. This is just the quickest way to get in one of our classes. Travis martin dot tv and sign up for the class of your choice. And we loved having you in class. If you like what you hear, we would ask on the honor system that you join our program. Uh, you joined shibboleth, and you can join shibboleth by going to www dot my shibboleth dot com. Debbie, Debbie Debbie dot Marcia Both Dr Com You'll find that it's a lot less expensive than you might think at any given time, because again, ministry first and foremost, little more housekeeping. If you like to be kept up to speed on when I go live with live videos or classes, then text the word Travis to your A V. I. S 23196 Text Travis T R. A v I. S 23199 six. All right, let's shift gears. Sasha, what is that beautiful, beautiful smell? We've kind of gotten into B. It's not just with food, but even from a holistic standpoint. I smell it. I think it's you got a diffuser. I think it's lavender. Is that lavender you put in here? You just make everything. So home.

spk_0:   14:09
Yeah, well, it's, um I don't know. I don't claim to know anything about the oils. And I just know that I love yeah, I know the way, The way they make me feel in the way that they they just sort of realize I think in my in the stress that I can feel day in, day out sometimes just, um

spk_1:   14:29
with with what we're doing

spk_0:   14:30
behind the scenes it's, um it keeps me calm, focused. It just doesn't. I, like, smells like it's pleasant smells. So when you're a guy and you know you can smell like sweat socks all that I mean, you don't mind that you don't mind it so much, But you really You really, surprisingly, you enjoy that when I put on a diffuser, but I like this one's lavender and like a tea tree oil, which I think right now I think that tea tree oil was kind of cleansing kind of a thing. So they probably all are I would be It would probably do me some good to read up on a lot of them. I used to use like a clary sage and rosemary for my rub it on my belly when I would have cycm Cem, Cem cramping or some different things going on. That and that's supposed to help. But I saw it other than I don't really know much about them except that they really seemed to be just relaxing. And it's not an overwhelming smell or an overpowering. I mean it Doesn't you know it's not too floral or two? Um, would see or anything just right?

spk_1:   15:25
It's not. It is just right. And I noticed you had you had put it in the studio back a few months ago and I loved it. Thought it was a lavender, And I had studied essentials, studied on them some and am familiar with Laver lavender. It's funny that you said it seems to basically you were saying that seems to calm you. That's exactly what it's for. It calms you. It helps decrease anxiety. S o. I'm glad that you put put that in here today. You you always do everything just right. But you didn't lock your lavender bear that I got you. I love that. I thought that was the greatest gift ever. And it's this poor little Barry just sits up there all by himself.

spk_0:   16:08
I love

spk_1:   16:09
Mother. I know you do. Nutrition wise. You've, uh you've got some questions. Some members have asked some questions things that are important to them, that they want answers too. I have no idea what you're gonna ask me. We have not rehearsed this. We don't have time to rehearse. I hope our audience appreciates that. This is not going to be a professional podcast. This is gonna be a fun podcast. So rapid fire. What? Talk to me. What's going on?

spk_0:   16:42
Uh, it's actually the you put me on the spot today because about an hour ago you said, Hey, you readyto jump in our podcast. So and I'm looking at different questions. And there's a lot of, um, you know, questions about foods. What can I have with this category of that category? But I think since we're, um, just kind of starting here, I think a lot of people are trying to adjust to this new normal, but we have to always realize that, uh, I know, But right now, at least for the next 30 days, this is our home. Some new normal. I think the biggest question we're getting right now is I can't find approved bread I can't find Approve this or that. And what I've what I've encouraged you talk about it. People talk about that. Even if they can't find all of these things that are, um, you know, this category to bread. And this this particular item that's on the approved list, I think they can still work with what they have in what they can find. And what will you always say is what you will do is better than what you won't do And that kind of stuff. And I think we need to focus on what they do have to work with. But people that sort of dropped off maybe the map for about a week or two because they thought Okay, I'm gonna have to be at home. I can't go to work and do this like that. So I'm just gonna forget the diet quote unquote for a little while and, um, and just give into it And because I can't focus on eating right because I got to teach my kids now at home. I've got it. Adjust to this, you know? So forget it right now. But now here we are, almost three weeks into this more and people are starting to go. Okay, well, now I've either put on 10 extra pounds or they're miserable and they're feeling like, OK, it's not worth it anymore. I gotta figure out how to get back to the lifestyle so that because this is my new normal for the next month, and I'm sort of miserable giving into the diet devil for the last 23 weeks, I think the biggest thing right now is just encouraging people how they can, you know, keep doing this or get back on some kind of, ah, get back into some new habits that they have to just adjust something. So that may be the first. The first question sounds complicated.

spk_1:   18:53
Well, there's a There's a lot to unpack there. And you, you jump in here, too, because, Babe, I learned more from you. Then I do anything I readers just watching you on a daily basis. How you go about your business. You don't give yourself enough credit, but I can tell you my life changed and is changing. It's not overnight. Can you? Don't all of a sudden switch off all your old bad habits and bad thoughts and become his new person overnight. That's that's the goal. But I've learned in my life has improved. I can't let life run. May I have to run my life? It's that simple. So if a lot of people that you know the crisis, the Corona virus crisis is running home right now, some of them were doing get some of them weren't. Some of them are just some some of you guys out there listening. You weren't doing good, you know you weren't doing good. And your excuse was you had too much going on. Now you don't have enough going on and you're not. But others were doing great. And then boom crisis comes up, and now that crisis is running and it's because you do not invest in what's important first thing each and every day, the most important thing. So when you begin to design your life and start running your life, the first thing you have to do is decide what your values and priorities were gonna be. And this was a really hard when this 1st 1 was a really hard one, and Sasha knows this about me. This was a really hard one for me. And that is I come first. Yes, I come first. And the more successful you are and become, the more people you have pulling at you and the more important that becomes I Come, everybody say it with me. I come first. Now, Isn't that selfish? No, it's right. The opposite. It's right the opposite. Before I put everyone else first that made me feel like a good person for a little while. I'm gonna put the spouse first. I'm gonna put the kids first. I'm gonna put our clients first. I'm gonna put the needs of even a stranger first. But what happens over time? Your conditioning people that you're going to put them first. Your love tank. Your energy tank runs empty. Runs dry. There you see it. Overweight, unhealthy, own prescription meds. No way. Energy. No, no juice and life. Nothing you look forward to. There you see it. And then you start crying out for help. And no one wants to help you. Granted, you're not directly asking for Hale, but you're crying out in your own way to the husband, To the wife, to the kids. or to family. Maybe you start being grumpy, you know, whatever that is hanging, angry. And what happens is you're crying out.

spk_0:   22:07
Hey, somebody fill up my energy

spk_1:   22:09
tank, my love tank. I'm running dry here and nobody's gonna do it. You condition on the wrong way, and then you end up bitter toward your kids towards your spouse, toward the members of your program or whatnot. That doesn't happen when you say, you know what, I'm putting me first. I don't expect anyone else to put energy in my tanker Love in my tank. If anyone else does it, that's a blessing. But I'm gonna do it for myself. So I try. I fail sometimes, but I tried each and every day to spend time with Travis to do things Travis wants to do. I'm not talking about in a selfish way, and I'm not talking about in a lazy but way. I'm not talking about going in there and watching beings watching TV. That's not going to get the job done. That's not gonna put enough fuel in your tank, but finding things that I enjoy Set Travis, self love and self care time, and you and I saw. Shall we talk a lot about that? Because it's so easy to get wrapped up in the expectations of others. But wouldn't you agree? When we put time yesterday, we went for a long walk and we listen to stuff together. We listen to stuff apart, but when we get done with that walk, it's always hard to make that time. But when we get done with that, don't you feel refreshed? Never regretted. Never regret it. You've been doing some sauce yourself care stuff. What have you been doing?

spk_0:   23:41
Ah, um well, it's Ah, the workout I've been doing. Is that what you're asking me so I can plug a little? I got, um I just wanted something that I'm I'm 47 to just throw that out there. And so I was kind of I had done a beach body thing a year ago or so with it was, um, a lot of jumping around lost if I wouldn't really did good on it. But when Crazy about all the jumping around. So I tried to do a new thing called a bar blend and using It's like 30 minutes, 30 to 40 minutes, and I just finished my eight week and I love it. And regardless of whether it's some yoga stuff, it's bar stuff. It's a lot of its I sweat. I hurt after. I don't hurt. I hurt him. I do it. I love the girl that does it because she's constantly, um, giving affirmations all through the workouts, constantly talking. I really thought I think I told you I thought that would really bother me at first because I was like, Just let me get through the workout and be done, But it really is good. It's a lot of positive, Um, and it's a 30 40 minute thing. I do that Either first thing in the morning or after we walk, so that can get that in. And sometimes it's hard to do because I think my computer's calling or the kids are calling or this or that. But gosh, I have to just shut all that off and go do it, and I And while I'm there, I can completely focus on what's going on in that 30 minutes. And, um, it's, you know, it's really good me time.

spk_1:   25:04
Yeah, yeah, you in? You know we want to. I don't want to die aggress too far. But I do want to point out you also do something else right. You understand that fat loss and maintenance that 80 90% of it is nutrition and that the other 10 20% of his exercise and supplementation you can get to a point. As we say in class, you look great in your clothes with just nutrition. But if you want to look good naked in a double cheese, laughing at me already in a double K a day, then you got to do it all. But for some, let's just let's get to that point where we feel confident and comfortable in our own clothes. You don't go do that self care time. And then when you get done, Hey, I've earned the right to eat more food and eat crappy food. I know a lot of people that do that, so I want to put out that cautionary statement because you don't do that, You. Then when you're done, you might drink an advocare rehydrate to replenish your electrolytes. But you don't then eat something. You wait until dinner and you didn't approve dinner. That's why you've been able to keep your weight off.

spk_0:   26:16
I'd probably say I used to. I used to I used to own a gym for pizza and I would be all right. Well, you know, when you're married to the guy you kind of have toe. I said I'd get example, but really beyond that. The man, the man the um But, you know, when I had owned a gym and even worked out before, I used to work out every day and I would go eat a grilled chicken sandwich from Chick fil A, get a diet Coke, get right which saying And I get it on the wheat bread too. But what? I didn't know it not happen apple or something. Middle of the day for a snack. Thinking all that's good formulation. It is good for me, but it's far If I'm trying to lose the body fat that I had put on. I didn't realize I was just stalling my progress. I was having a good maintenance. I was was maintaining well at that point. But I I didn't know the nutrition part of it, but then it would give me permission. I felt in my brain I thought I just burned all those calories off. I could eat a little bit more. This isn't gonna hurt me or that isn't gonna hurt me. And what I learned from you is that, um yes, it does. It doesn't. You can't, um, you know that even if it's a little, um, apple for, you know, an apple learning learning that that that sugar is still it doesn't cause you to gain any weight. But it certainly can stall your progress if you're on a mission to lose body fat. So now I think I just feel really good after we've walked. After I've done that work out. I just feel my skin feels good. Like, I just feel good. And I don't wanna sabotage it now that I know what I know. And you can't unknowing that stuff that you teach. Um, and I can't I can't do it. I can't go after workout just and binge. Um, like I used to, because now I know too much died.

spk_1:   28:00
And four new listener. You know, we're not here to teach the intricacies of our program because you can watch the daily doses take test, passed test and earned the badge. Learn why Sasha saying the things that she's saying, but that Apple by itself is going to college. The blood sugar rises and you get the insulin impact, and it's no big deal that you ate the apple and got all those nutrients. If your goal is not to lose fat, if you go is to lose fat, we've gotta combine the right protein and fibers with that apple to neutralize that fat bus. But again, watch those daily doses and again, I'm I'm going. I can see it. I can feel it. I'm going to take us off course a lot. But getting back to your original point, you've got to You've got to architect your own life, and you've got to first be willing to keep doing the things that you value. And if you don't value yourself, I'm a firm believer in this after Riel really living this philosophy. I used to think I was a better person by giving, giving, giving, giving all the time and never giving anything, never having time for myself. It works, right? The opposite works, right? The opposite. Really, By making my priority, may I am able to love my God more. That doesn't mean God didn't come first in my life. Don't take what I'm saying wrong, But if I don't love myself, I can't love you, Sasha. I can't live my kids not at full capacity. I can't love God. I must love myself and take care of myself before anything else or I won't have the energy. I won't have the love to take care of you guys when you need it. I think it works that way for everyone. So every day that I get up, my priority is I'm going to take care of my temple and we've got a program called Share Bullet. If we live within the boundaries of that, that's going to do that for us. But just because it's Corona virus or crisis, I can assure everyone listening that whatever you're going through because of this crisis, when you get through this crisis, you'll be headed toward another one. Then you'll be in that one, and when it's over, you'll be headed toward another one. So if it's important for you in the short time you have here upon this earth to live your best life, then you're gonna have to learn to do what you're supposed to be doing, even through Crassus, even through obstacles, even through chaos. And it's not hard people. It's not hard. We're talking about eating. You do it every day. The only difference is instead of eating junk and get jumped, that tastes good and getting fat and unhealthy. We're gonna be eating good food that tastes good and makes us healthy. It's just good, good, good. No matter

spk_0:   31:13
how you look at him.

spk_1:   31:14
So you know matter. You've got to keep doing what you're supposed to be doing. Now let's say the grocery stores, they don't have toilet paper. It's no big deal. We have water hose. We can wash your arse. We still have water. Better for me. Better for you. Better for the planet to wash your arse with water anyway. So there's not. That's not a reason for you to get down. What's those things? Now you can install on the toll that I'm not fancy with him called

spk_0:   31:45
today, but there's something like that. I know. I started

spk_1:   31:48
my opinion that that would

spk_0:   31:49
cause the fat bus, right? Yeah. Yes, the day I think it's a

spk_1:   31:54
look it up. You know what that thing's called, but anyway, I want to know because it'll bother me. But anyway, why she's looking that up. No bread, no ground mate own. And on and on I heard the excuses. But yet in the last couple of days, we've been to the local grocery store, and as I looked around, I didn't look for things that I couldn't find. I look for things that were approved like a scavenger hunt,

spk_0:   32:21
and I found all kinds of stuff. And I look

spk_1:   32:26
at if there's no bread, I look at it. Hey, this is a sign from the Good Lord. This is a sign I need to fast from bread for

spk_0:   32:34
just a little

spk_1:   32:35
while. It ain't like it's not gonna wind up back on the shelf, get you some of those romaine lettuce leaves and let that be your burger bun. Let that be your sandwich bread. You don't have tohave bred to do this program. In fact, you don't need bread. We only have bread to make our program practical, sustainable and fun. But it doesn't matter what you can't find. There will be things that you can find, and

spk_0:   33:03
maybe you need to branch out anyway.

spk_1:   33:06
and try some new stuff, no matter what life throws it. What is the saying? If life throws lemons at you, turn it in. Eliminate. It's all about mindset and positivity and a can do attitude. And I'm not saying there's not a time to be negative. Positive, positive, positive. But there's not there. Sometimes you just gotta get mad. You just got to get mad, have a little righteous indignation and say, You know, I don't care if there's nothing in the Dow going grocery store. I committed to losing weight and I'm going to do it if I have to lick drywall if I have to lick my peanut butter off a drywall, there was plenty of peanut butter over there, right? Yeah, If I have to lick peanut butter off dry while I'm going under, I'm going to my best body Best life. What's that thing?

spk_0:   33:55
It is the day they can toilet seat it, actually, just his. They sell them in a toilet seat cover, so it's a there, but But they're like 306 hours. But hey, you save on toilet paper. I guess

spk_1:   34:09
that's what that's what

spk_0:   34:11
this is. My folks were telling planet. And what? What you just said by the way about saying getting mad at I think I was actually surprised years ago in tryingto say and stuff like that out loud. And I think people devalue how much more empowering it is to say that kind of thing out loud like to say in your brain is one thing. And but when you can write something down or say it out loud that you've got the control back, I I tested myself years ago in my own pantry, and I remember thinking, um, opening the pain treat because I think I was probably working at home or snow day or something. And looking at, uh, I want to use Oreos because that was just your weakness this weekend. You blame that on us. But it was actually your your little thing that I know you didn't buy. You didn't buy them, but no, no, no, you didn't buy them at all. Our our little our little rascal daughter bought those things. But you partake in them, buddy. Way or so the Orioles were looking at me and I said now he waas, but I just looked at them and I thought in my head I thought you don't control May, you know. And then I thought I'm about to say this out loud, and this sounds ridiculous. Like, I just remember thinking I cannot say that out loud. And I stood there in front of my pantry and I said, You do not control May. And I shut that painter door and not tell you what if I didn't feel like Okay, all of a sudden, just Oh, I'm serious. Like a wave of like you got This sort of came over me, and I was really surprised. And I was like, Oh, about that, that that helped me in that moment, it really helped me to say to realize that, you know, I don't have to. I didn't have to touch that. I could go get something else. And so saying that kind of stuff out loud and writing it down stuff. It's just so Pat s so powerful.

spk_1:   36:01
Yeah, it is. And I'm glad that you said that because again you applied biblical principle.

spk_0:   36:09
I did. You did not.

spk_1:   36:10
You you probably knew it. You're you're closer to the Lord. Then I am for sure. But you applied a biblical principle. In other words, we're tout people don't apply it. But we're taught that our words either blessed or cursed. And the Bible also teaches us that the tongue is like a smile red around a great ship. What comes out of it has the potential and ability to direct our physical path. So by saying those things out loud, you snap out of the trains. I mean, using them out of it and your physiology changes. It's just like I told somebody the other day, get a little mad at yo, get that out, Get that emotion out, get it out into just just

spk_0:   36:59
I'm gonna do it.

spk_1:   37:00
You know, whatever, just get it out because all of a sudden your physiology changes. Your shoulder snapped back. You know, you just feel different. You the power of the tongue. People say crap all the time, and if they realize Theo, I'm working on it. They say stuff all the time that they

spk_0:   37:17
out loud

spk_1:   37:18
that they don't mean or don't want to have happen. And then it happens. They cursed their own sail instead of saying,

spk_0:   37:27
Here's what I want to have happen

spk_1:   37:30
and it will happen more often than not. It's amazing how that works. Get your bag.

spk_0:   37:36
You always say, Tell the truth in advance and so I don't even, you know, saying I want this to happen. You just have to announce it like it is, right? Well,

spk_1:   37:47
I said one time I say, because it's cliche. Fake it till you make it. I don't I don't think there's that much fake about Mae. There's something fake about all of us. There's something fake about everyone listening to this podcast for you. To say that you're completely authentic and genuine would make you equal to Jesus Christ and you're not. We're supposed to learn to live amore and Maur authentic life, but fake it till you make it. Someone recently is, you know, got onto me for saying that, and I'm saying It's say that Tell the truth in advance. If it's not true today, that's my best. I'm one handsome fella. I spent most of my life saying I'm ugly now, someone handsome fellow. Look at May, and what happens is it

spk_0:   38:35
may not be true

spk_1:   38:35
today, but I'm telling the truth in advance. I'm going to get there. I'm gonna believe that. And if I believe it, other people will believe it. But anyway,

spk_0:   38:45
you are the time. Well, it just Sorry we're going in a No, no. When you're casting, well, I could tell a difference in you overall, in the years that we've known each other. Now, when you when I met you, so you'd already lost £100 plus, But you were still Yeah, you were still walking around with, um, a little bit less than caught me no less confidence. I was, too. We both were, but you But I realized you saw things in me. And I saw things in you. That Where were you? Yes, yes, but you and yes. And, um I think when we started to change our our thought processes when you stop saying, um I'm fat, I'm uglier. These things because when you say those things to yourself, I'm trying to put this in a way that comes across. I don't know how it's gonna come across, but when you say those things to yourself, other people start to devalue you because you're not standing with your shoulders held high. You're not got your head up your not portraying a um You know, um, I think a lot of people can think if if you say if you say to yourself and I still have, like, I look good or or I'm handsome, I'm I'm pretty or whatever you feel immediately like somebody's you. It's, um, thinking that you're you think you're all that or whatever. You're you don't deserve to say that about yourself. Um, but I think when you say those other things than people can see that they see that in you. Even though you may not be saying it to them or you. I think you portray that. And then But as as you started to, um, feel more confident in your skin and, you know, I was definitely see you when you're not that I don't have that negative. Um, those negative versus coming out of you. You portray that positivity in yourself to me, and therefore I and even more attracted to you. Even though you look, you know, does that make sense? I mean, what does it make sense? Because if I'm sitting around all day going, I'm so fat. I'm so ugly. I don't want to get this house I am in my pajamas right now. That's because I got short notice. But if I say those things to myself all the time, then I feel that way. I have a head down. I have my my body, you know? But if I can sit up straight and stuff than that, I make you pay more attention to me. What's a goon? That's not

spk_1:   41:07
You know, you made a lot of see what you just did. You pull.

spk_0:   41:10
I just did. I just Thing is,

spk_1:   41:12
you point out things to May and like that, and then you get onto me for them and it helps me. But then I can't You doing the same thing and I get on your lot. So we really are the same person. I just have boy parts. And you have girl

spk_0:   41:26
parts. Yeah, yeah,

spk_1:   41:29
No, I get what you're saying, and I hope other people are getting what you're saying. Because I was treated. I look back now, let me say that my articulation skills are limited. So I looked back and I see that I was treated poorly by very many people. I became bitter towards them and angry at them. Nail wisdom tells me that it wasn't their fault, right? It was my fault. Right? Okay, so I treated myself and spoke of myself very poorly. Right now, if you think anyone, even people that love you, if you let along a stranger. If you think that they're going to treat you better than you treat yourself, you're sadly mistaken. And you're not gonna have a great earth experience, right? The better you treat yourself without arrogance, knowing who you are in the Lord without arrogance, the better you treat yourself, the better other people will treat you. You give me somebody's £300 they're downing themselves, and they don't express that they value themselves. It won't be long to even. I don't treat him like I should. They don't value themselves. They don't do what they say. They're not a person of a steam or a person of value. Why should I treat him terrific, Lee. But you take that same £300 person that says, Hey, brother Travis, will you help me? I'm a man on a mission. I've lost £30. I'm ready to get down to 200. I can do this all of a sudden value them. I'm not darn, they've got something going, You know, that's how life works. As Rocky would say, That's

spk_0:   43:21
how winning is done. You've got to value

spk_1:   43:25
yourself. If you don't value yourself, you can't expect that. So I'm not bitter. And anybody that treat me poorly took advantage of me. I allowed that my fault, not theirs. People don't do me like that anymore. And if they try to How quickly they out of my life now, aren't you really amazed I'm getting so much better? It's like God, just Markham.

spk_0:   43:44
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Well, it's a it doesn't happen, is it doesn't happen as often. And you know, most people, most people don't do it on purpose. It's just that they start to react the way that you're they start to treat you the way you're treating yourself. And it's like the, um I mean, if I'm married to you, I married you because I told Value And you I love you. I I think you're amazing. You're the most important person to me. I wanted to marry you, So when you don't take care of yourself and you look down on yourself, you say bad things about yourself, then That almost makes me feel like Well, wait a minute. I fell in love with you. So what do you say about me? So it's a vicious cycle. Yeah, it's a vicious cycle. And you can get really People get caught up in it. Don't even realize I don't think anybody does it on purpose, you know, to treat you badly. But I think at some point at the end of the day at the end of that cycle, where you're constantly living with that person who may be down on themselves, your you're sort of like you you don't know how else to to be, because you can. I could compliment you until I was, you know, until all day long. But until you really start to feel that and believe in yourself and say it to yourself, you know that other person can't help you. You have to help yourself.

spk_1:   44:53
Well, but you two, you can't wait until you there to value yourself. I talked to someone not so long ago. Don't you love the way I take these stories and modeling together? But I have to because I don't want anybody out there to say, Oh, I remember this conversation yet with me, but I guess if the shoe fits, you have to wear it. But I'm talking to a person that, you know. She's lovely lady lover to death. She's about five foot four, about £300 and I say incredible value, incredible potential. But she said, I struggle having motivation to do this because I have no one in my life. I want someone in my life now think about the ramifications of what was just said. You're saying I want somebody to accept me here in a place where I obviously don't take care of myself or care for myself. How can they see value in you, right? They cannot. So you're gonna be lonely, Get used to it, or you're gonna track someone into your life that's also miserable. And after the home honeymoon's over, you're both gonna make each other doubly miserable. So you have to be a man or a woman on a mission, right? For greatness. That's true, right? Right. All right. So I sum sum up the answer. Focus

spk_0:   46:28
on me. We wouldn't get past with what? We got plenty

spk_1:   46:31
of time. Focus on what you're thinking fast forward and rewind. Focus on what you can have sugar britches, and not on what you cannot have any more questions. That was good. You just so good.

spk_0:   46:48
We top that one right now. Um, no. I mean, like I said, most of the people that are are are chatting or really just concerned about, you know, what can they have? Because they can't find this or that thing. So I think the, um you know, it's unless you want to talk a little bit more about which about what we teach. Then I think I'm kind of, you know, we're, um we were just We're teaching them about us right now. A lot of things air coming up, you know, about, You know, the people are doing so great. There are some people that just two started as this Corona virus has started, and now they do have the time they can catch up on the videos where they couldn't. They used to say, people used to say, Ah, I can't do the program because I've got lunch with my friends or dinner with this party or that party or whatever and and so that was a real hang up and some people now are have the time and and the and they can listen because you don't have to watch necessarily all of these videos. You can listen to them. I used to listen to them in the morning when I was getting ready because I had two young kids at the time, and that was my only time I had for myself. So I would just turn on my phone or whatever and just listen to it at least while I was getting ready, cause I might be in their 2030 minutes or so when I can get through it. And the more you hear, the more you listen to it and take it in, the more you start to absorb it. And I think that probably right now people are finding a little more time to jump into the videos and listen to them so that they can learn and have this knowledge for themselves so that they can if they can't find a bread, that they know what else they can do because they have the knowledge now and they can make that decision based on the you know because they have not a knowledge of product knowledge about a knowledge of Hey, okay, if I can't find this bread, then I could do this instead Or put this, you know, they they know how to make something work for them, even if it's not, um, a perfect combination. It is a more perfect than what they did before they had this knowledge that makes any sense. But I think right now people are just fine. There is, um, people that I know some of our Amy and some of our reps have said have been talking to People are saying people are losing 10 £20 right now because they do have the time to invest in, get in and learn it. And and there are lists, sometimes less. Variety is better success because here they don't have the variety that they had before, so they are more aware of what they're buying and make it more decisions, better decisions about what they're eating because they have less variety, and that's a little bit easier. Sometimes toe she's found.

spk_1:   49:23
Yeah, I think it can work for you and it can work against you. I think that's why we've approved thousands and thousands of the foods that you can find it. The local grocery store is because in the beginning, a restart or to get through a plateau, it's important to limit limit limit variety to the best food. We would say the minus two minus three foods Gay Limited. But then, when you find your mo mentum again, it's important that you have variety or you'll get bored, right? So I think that's what makes you both so cool. You can limit variety to those minus two minus three foods and combinations and recipes. Or you can open it up and have even those things that we label a zero or a one or two, occasionally or three. Very occasionally. Um, so it is something here for everyone. That's why I don't want Colin to die.

spk_0:   50:32
I know that's what I'm I think everybody, any. Even when I started doing it, I thought, Can't you just just tell me what t Just give me some foods her a little bit. I'll do that. Yeah, I'll do that for a couple of weeks and get some weight off and then I'll go back and I'll do better. I'll be better eating when? Ah, when you know once you just tell me what to do. I didn't want to have to learn the education, the nutrition. But when I plugged in and started you, you have such a great way of, um, relating to every day you've been there. You did it. You did it. You taught yourself and the way that you taught yourself. I love your story. And I wish that it was, you know that. Okay, I couldn't listen to it all the time because you took, um, real life. You you decided that you had to fit this into your life because it was something you were going to do forever. You new at this point that you've done so many diets that were You were yo yoing. And you needed something that you could You knew that you could not survived the rest of your life without having bread. So you were like, Okay, how can I still have bread but and incorporated into this and still lose weight and you figured it out. You did that. You did that. You did all the hard work for us. And, um, you did the calculations in the Nugent nutrition at the nutrients to see how much fiber was needed in order to break down the fat that's in, you know, foods and sugar and stuff. And you did all that homework and, um, and used you did a peanut butter. What do you call it? Peanut butter and green being diet further his couple. But you don't never it's not,

spk_1:   52:05
and I kind of wanna die aggress and talk about that for a minute, because every client's mindset is not where my mindset waas and that's okay, My mindset. Waas and I don't mean to bring darkness. And here I was so miserable in so many areas of my life, and I attached all that misery. A lot of it was due to being overweight, but wrongly, I attached all of my misery to being overweight and on prescription meds, all of my misery. So when I got started, my back was against the wall and I knew that's spiritually, whether physically or not, spiritually, I was a dead man walking. If I didn't fix this, I could not live the rest of my life like this, and I knew I don't know how to eat, so I had to simplify things from myself, and I decided I would not put anything in my mouth if I did not know what was good about it. Bad about it. Funny about it. I would not eat it. I just go without food. If I didn't know how my body was going to break it down. I started with the most simple thing that I could think of. A peanut butter sandwich, my favorite. So I looked up paying up, but it's mostly fat. You'd be amazed today when you ask people that how many of them don't know? It's just almost all fat, very little protein, very little carbohydrate unless you get something likes out there on the market today, full of sugar, sugar and fat don't mix. But anyway, fat peanut butter fat And then I was having that peanut butter. Care me to paint up butter sandwiches, toe work and those peanut butter Peanut butter was on white bread. Well, how does that what? White bread doesn't have any fat in it.

spk_0:   54:02
This is a grow fat, low calorie. I'm

spk_1:   54:04
so old. I I remember Susan Powder, You know, the zero fat girl and, uh, you zero fat White bread's good? No, the wider the bread, the quicker my butt's dead. So I said, You know, here I've got white bread that's breaking down inside of my body like sugar. It's higher on the glycemic index than processed sugar. So I'm eating this white bread. What happens? My blood sugar goes through the roof. You're telling about two slices of white bread, minimum equivalent to 18 teaspoons of sugar.

spk_0:   54:39
And teen. Yeah, 18 teaspoons

spk_1:   54:42
Yeah, equivalent as faras, the chemical reaction that takes place in the body. So you get this huge blood sugar spikes. And by the way, white bread. What's bad about it

spk_0:   54:53
doesn't take them. Have a taste, was why

spk_1:   54:56
I was just texture. It's not taste, so just textures killing me. So I've got the white bread and peanut butter. What's going on in my body? That fat is good. I was eating peanut butter's with hydrogenated fats. Didn't know any better back then, but the facts breaking down and they're gonna evaporate his heat and just disappears. I exhaled if I don't eat too much peanut butter. When I was putting all that fat with that shit with what metabolizes like sugar and I'm getting a huge dose of insulin fat storage hormone that's causing me to store that peanut butter and store the fact that I would lead eat later in the day and the next day because of that one episode. So when I found out Hey, there are breads that have enough protein and fiber toe blunt that insulin response so that I could still have my peanut butter sandwich. Back when I started, there was no good breads. There was one nature's own double fiber wheat bread had enough fiber per calorie, that purty in calories that I could utilize it, and it would metabolize in my body, MME. Or not like but Maur like a green bean. Then it did a white bread. So a double five a week read two tablespoons of peanut butter. The perfect portion. Perfect macro nutrient profile wasn't the best meal, best food, but that's all I had. That's all I knew. I wasn't gonna put anything else in my mouth. I was on peanut butter Sandwich Island and I could have been eaten much better stuff and losing even more fat. But I didn't know. So that's what I eat and then the next thing I wanted to put in my mouth spaghetti, I learned howto put together the perfect spaghetti recipe, and I learned how to put together the perfect salad with the perfect dressing, knowing how all of it would break down. I had very limited variety. I started over like a little baby, a little baby, except for I was going to raise this little baby. And this little baby doesn't know what t So the parent, which was my spirit would say, is paint up butter sandwiches. Today. We'll learn something different tomorrow. Well, let's say that you learn about one approved meal during your ship. Bohlen journey. You learn about one. And by the way, I went on to lose £44 in six weeks. £100 in less than six months come off all prescription medications. But let's say that you learned about, say, I said, Tomorrow's your first day and this is all you can have. So you're starting a new life. You gotta have it all tomorrow that inferior rates may about people

spk_0:   57:41
wanted the whole time. Or when I know it

spk_1:   57:44
all, I'll get started, right? You just don't want it bad enough? I started with that. What if over a 30 day period, you developed one new meal each day? That was sure both approved in a minus two or minus three meal on our program, the more negative, the better. In 30 days, you would have 30 meals. I bet most of you aren't eating 30 different meals a month

spk_0:   58:11
now, right? You doing the slag? Most what, 30 30? We just

spk_1:   58:17
had a program not long ago where we developed 100 approved meals. If you have one, huh?

spk_0:   58:22
Then just focus on

spk_1:   58:23
what you can't have and I don't want you can't have. And it's so easy. It's so easy. So limited. Variety's good in the beginning. But there's no need for you to state with just a few foods develop an arsenal of approved foods that you love help you lose weight.

spk_0:   58:43
Well, that's what um, what I was what I was gonna say about the diet mentality is and what is so great about having more variety later? The way that you have more variety is because you've learned you get the education that you provide here. And, you know, you're you're learning howto you're not relying on a piece of paper that has, you know, the approved foods on it year, you're able to now go to the grocery store, go to your family re union, or one day we'll be able to do that again. Go go places. And even with the limited variety that we have right now at our fingertips now you can You can you can eyeball it Now I now I process You know, I look, I look at a plate for the restaurant or wherever, and I'm automatically breaking it down the combinations in my head. And I know okay, if I have this today, I made, I'm maintaining. I've been maintaining for years now, so but I know how I know how my body. Now I know how my body reacts to, you know, having that potato or corn versus having a you know, a couple sides of broccoli and depending on what kind of a mood I am or where I'm at in my week, I might choose one or the other based on you know how I'm feeling. Because I know now I know I have the knowledge now, and it's like riding a bicycle. You just don't you don't forget this stuff, but you have to keep practicing it. You're you have to kind of, um, you know, you have to get that refresher And that's why I always recommend people to to go back and listen to the videos. Even if you heard at one time before, twice before go listen again, because there's you pull something different, you in a different place in your journey all the time. You're always gotta be willinto. Keep growing and keep learning new stuff and even you. I look y'all, I live with the guy and I've been living the living the program for more than 10 years. I learned something new every time. There's never adult, there's never a place where I'm like. Okay, I I'm done. I'm done learning. That's it's It's always about him. Plus, there's always a new food, new restaurant, a new idea out there, And, um, you know, just I got a key. I've got to keep it in front of me, too, but what's I love it, and I love learning it, learning it and learning what you know and you get so excited about it. And but It's just not something, you know. People can't get done with the daily doses and they go, Okay, Done. What else is there to learn? And they're so much more. Yet there's so much more.

spk_1:   1:1:03
So, you know, I don't know if you noticed I caught myself. I caught myself while you were talking because I was reminiscing about what's good about bad about it. Funny about it. Did you see the look on? I called it. I'm on my Elvis lips going disgusting. The reason being this is an adult podcast. By the way, the reason being was I was thinking about some of my favorites from the past. What? Ross yum yum sauce, that Japanese what? Rice, White pasta? White bread. I would think about those things and craved them. But now I don't because I wrote down what was bad about him and funny about him. And I never have a desire for white pasta. I never have a desire for white bread.

spk_0:   1:1:49
Do it. No, I don't either. It's just I never thought I could say that.

spk_1:   1:1:53
And the reason I don't I read this and I wrote it down. I wrote it. I wrote all this stuff down. It's crazy, but I wrote down what's bad about white bread? Well, here's what's bad about Instead of loving it, I found a way to be disgusted by it because the white bread process process bread and rice and noodles again. We've done said it so just just texture. It adopts the flavor of what you prepare it with, but they stripped all the good stuff from it. They strip what's called the brand. They stripped what's called the germ with all the nutrients in it, and when you consume it, that stripped away so the blood sugar impact is huge. Whereas if it would steal packaged together with the brand in the germ, it wouldn't be so high, glassy, mate. And it actually would have a little bit of flavor. And then you get in the right combination Lat, long grain brown rice or, uh, Ezekiel Bread's a Category three, its center. But they stripped the brand in the German. All that's left this is not gonna go get is

spk_0:   1:3:05
I know you

spk_1:   1:3:06
all that's gonna be left is the Indo sperm. And I read that I thought, Oh my gosh, why would anybody wanna put sperm in their mouth. So when I see that stuff, I can't help but get the over slipped going, huh? I can't believe somebody with eight Indo sperm. So you may laugh at that, or it may offend you. I don't No

spk_0:   1:3:30
hope grosses you out. You don't everyone out. I

spk_1:   1:3:33
mean, that stuff is killing you.

spk_0:   1:3:35
You seem pretty severe. Take Thio. Behavior

spk_1:   1:3:38
modification is shock therapy. You have to shock yourself in doing the right thing. And if you don't, you're gonna keep if you love something if you love it. I love white rice and you don't realize, but it's killing me. It's killing me. And do I really want to be doing this? You're always gonna make the bad choice because you're fixated. Oh, man, I love that stuff, and I can't have it. That's the wrong I like to say I hate that stuff, and I can't have it. Price God, you know, you just gotta think differently. You can't have stinking thinking about this thing.

spk_0:   1:4:10
Yeah, and the thing is, you can have it. I mean, if you want, If you really want it, that white rice and there's not other, you can have it once a week for the harvest ever on your holidays. Nothing's sperm is well right. There's nothing. You can't have it. It's funny, kid. You just said something that sort of registered with me just now about the flavor of because you're right. When when I used to have white rice versus a whole grain rice, I can remember being saying, I don't like the flavor of the whole grain rice, but that's the whole point like that. There is no flavor in the white rice, so they actually it is. It's because the whole crane it's got the flavor in it. It to me that I just I just kind of had a lightbulb moment cause I was like, Well, no wonder it's, but that if people we have to kind of read retrain our brains a bit because you're you're right. The flavor, any rice, even the whole grain rices are the ones that we use that approved the pastas that approved the bean pastas that are approved. Their amazing They they taste like whatever you're cooking them in. So it doesn't. There's no difference in our family has enjoyed them most the time. They don't even realize they're eating stuff that's good for them because there's so many things that taste good and they actually are more flavorful. I can remember having moments of that. We'd have a favorite lasagna or something at a restaurant that score spaghetti that we used to love, and we started cooking it at home so much. But when we didn't know when, I didn't know how to eat out right, that when I finally did have that again was looking so forward to having it again. It was a disappointment, and because what we were having at home was so much more full of flavor and full of it's weird. It's full of them life. You just feel better, Um, eating those things that you know I'm no good for you, and the stuff that you get out at the restaurants sometimes is not worth it anymore. It's just doesn't taste is quite as good as what you can do yourself. So it taught me how to cook this program did I learned to cook,

spk_1:   1:6:10
but we also enjoy eating out.

spk_0:   1:6:13
We eat out a lot more than we probably should, but we know how to do it right.

spk_1:   1:6:17
Since we started intermittent fasting. I just won't make clear. You don't have to. Everybody's different. Every lifestyle is different. You don't have to. You don't have to cook. We got fancy recipes, three ingredient recipes. There, there. You don't have to do that. You could do this program at the family style restaurant, a fast food restaurant, and we love. We do a lot of intermittent fasting now, which is not required for our members to get great results, but we do it a lot because of the wellness benefits that go with it. Along with the evening show, both approved meals. So we got where we're eating out quite a bit, because we found is the good quality staff kept? You know, prices are you know they're grocery. Bill keeps going up if you're if you're consuming the good stuff 23 times a day, you know, grocery store food is is not cheap. I'm not saying that we spend more because of the program. We actually spend less because of the program eating healthy. We spend less. That's a whole another podcast. But we found that if we ate out and shared of unapproved meal, then we got out of there as cheap as we could at home. But the thing was, if you're going out and Herbie's gotta get an appetizer in a meal, wife's got to get an appetizer in a meal. You eat enough to feed a small army. Yeah, you're gonna have that bill is gonna be excessive. But we got where we would have our bio coffee, cocoa ring at lunch, and then we will work hard and we would run. Get a bite and we would order a meal. Not an appetizer, sometimes an appetizer with no meal. But we would. We would order a showboat approved meal and we would enjoy each other instead of just the food. And we would share that meal and then we get out of there. We would laugh sometimes. Oh, gosh, this is almost less expensive and enjoyable. Uh, then it would be if we if we took something up at home if you're sharing. But we're so used to portion distortion. You know, we couldn't eat out a lot before because we both thought we had to have appetizers and a meal and just too much. And it works against your your goals.

spk_0:   1:8:39
Yeah, once you pay attention to how you're feeling afterwards. And I love the the When you taught when we were learning early on and you still teach to write down what eight. And like you said, what's good about it was bad about it. What's funny about it? And if you have a holiday, we encourage you to journal that, too, because it really is important to start to realize how you're feeling after you eat those foods. After you have that holiday, really write down how your guts feeling how your mind is feeling? Because, um, I know after some of those times we would both get a meal more times than not. We were leaving feeling like I just want to go take a nap. I just want to go feeling kind of miserable, but you don't really realize that until you you're not doing that anymore. And then you look back. So it's It's the true the hindsight's 2020 because I don't think I had any idea how bad my body was feeling all the time until I actually felt good and then your and then you start going. Wow, I feel you know, we we started splitting meals because we just were just realizing that we feel we're satisfied and we feel good and we can go now. Go, go take a walk or go. You know, go. Whatever. What are you doing?

spk_1:   1:9:48
Something after you eat the food actually does what it's supposed to do. The food nourishes you, feed you, leaves you feeling lot and full of energy. We would get done with dinner and instead of like you said just, man, I'm just stuff we'd actually feel like going dancing or doing something, you know, doing something as a couple. Whereas before, you just didn't feel like doing anything, we would eat so much on the holiday. It's just no use in doing that anymore for us. I can't think of the last time we ordered our own meal.

spk_0:   1:10:22
I know that's true.

spk_1:   1:10:23
We say save money. Doing that way. No. What to order? Because we're educated. We know how the food you're gonna break now.

spk_0:   1:10:29
And we're lucky because we do like a lot of the same things every once in a while. I got to get a steak or something, though, because, you know, a big meeting. I gotta go I got to get, like, a little steak or something, but usually and there's so many places that will let you just add on a side or sometimes has to meet. But the But you're a fish eater of big fish eater, which I love and lots of times even funny fact. I don't know. I'm not Ah, you know I'm not. We eat so much light stuff, fish and stuff, and you're not a big eater of the chicken. And I am but the red meat you and I both the last few times we've had, um and we've done a lot of grilling lately, but we had Yeah, it's heavier and harder Thio, both of us not feeling great. But do you know what's

spk_1:   1:11:13
so funny, though, is that I remember when I could be the 20 plus ounce steak in a potato and vegetables and any of the desert, and now we get a stake. Say it's Ah, 10 ounce steak, 12 ounce steak, and we'll have and we're talking about Oh my gosh, I can't eat all this, You know that's things can change for you. The things can change to the point you just It's kind of like the Bible says. You know, all those things that used to I used to count a CZ something good. Now account is just nothing. You know. It's just I don't know food and eating. Been there, done that. I want I want food, I enjoy it. I want it to be a part of my experience, but not my whole experience. And I think for a lot of people they're just not happy for some reason and their whole experience, their whole life experience, the pleasure. Part of it revolves around food. And I think you gotta work on other sources of pleasure than food even.

spk_0:   1:12:17
Yeah, it's gotta become a truly about eating for what he lived, to eat, to live, not live to eat kind of mine. Say that mind set and I never If you had asked me 10 years ago or so, if I had, if I ever would have had ah would have thought of food this the way that I do, it would have been able to turn down some of the stuff I turn away. I would have said You're crazy. I never had a problem. I never lost my appetite. I was always the one that my family would always kid about going the, you know, the third time to the buffet or whatever. I did not have problem eating, and I knew it, too. I would walk up there so shamefully to get my to get my additional plate, and but now, even on those times when we do have a family, get together something, I'm not ashamed to go get what I want to eat because I'm having a holiday or because I earned it and I love it and I looked, and now I've, you know, I've done that. I've done what he's done the time then the I've worked. I'm in a good place, so I don't mind that. You know, those times that I go and it's splurge a little bit. It's It's enjoyable to me, and I know tomorrow what I'm going to tomorrow. So it's no big. It's no problem. I don't I don't stress about it like

spk_1:   1:13:23
it's not difficult to a lot of people worried. Can I keep it up? It's not difficult to keep this up if you enjoy it. I've never asked someone who had a truly perfect day. Yeah. Did you enjoy that? Perfect. He had a really perfect day. According our definition of a perfect day. Did you enjoy it? I've never had anyone say no. So I don't understand why you would want to duplicate that pleasure over and over and over and over again. Just duplicate that success pattern. Those old bad habits will call you back. But you're addicted to misery. Did you know that? I just I just I say Ray had listened to a book about that that you can literally get addicted to misery.

spk_0:   1:14:07
I believe it. And it happens before you know it.

spk_1:   1:14:09
Yeah, and then it's so hard. Even when you have pleasure. You have this pleasurable day, man. I feel

spk_0:   1:14:15
great. Perfect days is awesome. Why not do that

spk_1:   1:14:19
over and over again? But no. Somehow we self sabotage. That's another podcast to pretty lady we're gonna get Yeah, we're gonna get ready to wrap this up. Do you have anything that you'd like to add to podcast number one? The introduction of the Ebola jam? Oh,

spk_0:   1:14:39
no, I just I'm I'm a now. I'm

spk_1:   1:14:43
in with Travis and Sauce. Um,

spk_0:   1:14:45
I'm, uh I'm looking forward to two more. There's so much I know that you have to give and and I'm looking forward to kind of being, you know, sidekick here When you say I'm sure I like it better to be in behind the scenes. I love that there's

spk_1:   1:14:59
and by the way people get into definitions. I looked up that said, We can't call it the Showboat Jam. That sounds good. We looked up on Webster and it said a tough place to pay him. I said, I thought that meant something different. So we like the definition on urban dictionary, which which means something good. You know that we're jamming together where your jam, you're our jam, all that good stuff. So but with sugar free sugar, free jam, sugar

spk_0:   1:15:26
free Damn, this is the sugar free

spk_1:   1:15:28
jam podcast. All right, so

spk_0:   1:15:32
we'll may not because you know you because we told a lot about us and our little bit there's a little bit of sugar in there, but we But I I just appreciate that there's an opportunity for people to get to know us this way because it's not all about the food. It's about life stuff, and and I'm just I'm kind of excited to just be able to talk. And there are so many times I was telling him for years I've been telling you. You and I have such great conversations in the kitchen over, you know, just in your office of firm. I'm walking in and we'll talk for an hour, and I always go. Gosh, I wish I had a recorder for this because you have some really great things to say. I'm just looking forward to it, getting in, getting it out there and letting people hear, hear what you have to say.

spk_1:   1:16:14
Well, Sasha, I appreciate you being on the podcast with me. Um, it means a lot to me. I love you so much. I hate being apart from you. I'll see you in there doing bookkeeping and accounting all day. Uh, as we come to a close here, this was just kind of an introduction podcast, but to talk to you for a minute about some of the upcoming segments of our podcast. There'll be different, but we'll have segments. We're gonna have this show both hotline where we have guests able to call in and ask questions live, and we'll record those live. We have a segment called Shib Olympia, where we very quickly take a shibboleth. Ah, phrase or word and give the definition for it. And what it means we have shibboleth. Overtime shibboleth! Rewind in this Ebola scoreboard Chabot scoreboard. And we're not going to each one of these segments each time. But the Shabbos scoreboard will be fine. So you all need to be recording in your journal. And working hard will be given away some fun stuff to those at the top of this jumbo scoreboard for weight loss for percentage of body weight lost and four steps. So make sure that you start journaling so that we can recognize you on some of our she Bola Jam podcast. We want to mention your name during the show. Both scoreboard. A few more things before we close today. Just a little more housekeeping. Once again, go to Travis martin dot TV To schedule a class are to see the upcoming schedule. First class is always free, but then we ask you on the honor system to go sign up for a program. Chabot. Sasha reminded me, Do you have a lifetime special going on right now? a CZ. Long as this page is up, this is still good some folks may be listening to this month from now, so we don't we can't promise that this will be up and running at all times, but www dot the lifetime membership dot com www dot the lifetime membership dot com Running a major special right now Lifetime membership paid one time never have to pay again. $59.95 for education for unlimited support and meal plans. That's www dot the lifetime membership dot com. You can text the word Travis the 31996 to be notified. Anytime I go live and we have a couple of sponsors, we know that

spk_0:   1:18:52
we deal.

spk_1:   1:18:53
They're us. But we have to raise money to keep the lights on. So Sasha was over here. If you like that energy she had, she was drinking Advocare Spark. You can go to Debbie. Debbie, Debbie dot blowtorch fat dot com and get you some spark How long we've been drinking spark mental clarity, Focus. Energy. Yeah, won't

spk_0:   1:19:14
you So Yeah,

spk_1:   1:19:15
I know they don't claim appetite control, but if I'm getting hungry and I have a serving of spark. Kind of blunt my appetite. I don't know if you've experienced that, but yeah. Um and then lastly today, this is kind of a sponsor. Shibboleth meals dot com shibboleth meals dot com For a long time, we tried to partner with a company that could provide quality restaurant style ingredients and meals that were shot both approved and ship them to people's door across the United States of America. And we found such a company at www dot shit, both meals dot com. Please use our link that lets them know that we're doing our job. W Debbie Debbie dot show both meals dot com and make sure you click the Szabo a tab. That's the way we ensure that their cooking and preparing your meals in the correct fats and oils.

spk_0:   1:20:10
What's great about that? Cos Renee is, um, remember

spk_1:   1:20:13
She's a man.

spk_0:   1:20:14
She She wants to do this to help members who were in the same predicament that she was just not really knowing what to do. So you can buy something that's prepackaged. They're really they're great, the portions are amazing and they're they're really great meals. So and she's a and she is a member and and she and Travis Air constantly talking about new things that she can do all the time. So

spk_1:   1:20:35
you can have you can have the entire meal that she packages if it's approved one. However, I am finding that we split, we split them. So if you see a meal is a little under 10 bucks, for example, I think the average cost you're really getting two meals for most. I know ever some people have bigger appetites than others, but really, really can be two meals and used along with other approved meals throughout the day. You're gonna get tremendous results. The only complaint that I have heard is the shipping cost, and I understand that. But it's all how you look at things, and I'm not trying to help people into something. I just don't think a lot of people are looking at that right if I order 10 of those meals, if it were free shipping, people wouldn't think of a thing about it, but because she can't ship them to people free there. Lyle, I can't pay that shipping. Don't buy one or two. You're gonna buy 10 or 15. We put him in the freezer, right? And

spk_0:   1:21:39
then the president to get that way when

spk_1:   1:21:41
we pulled them out and microwave Amar, heat them up. They're delicious. They're delicious. So much better than a healthy choice meal or something like that that you get it the grocery store. So check him out. Www dot shibboleth meals dot com. That's all I've got. You got anything by? No, I think, um, I

spk_0:   1:22:02
think I'm, uh We could go on forever. But I know we got more of these We want to do.

spk_1:   1:22:07
Yeah, way want to do. I love you guys. I love you guys. Let us know how we can help you If you need help, Just send us an email info at my shibboleth dot com. We'll see you next time.

spk_0:   1:22:21
Love you. Love you.

spk_1:   1:22:22
Love you too. Hot thing.