The Shock of Holiness with Dr. Michael Pakaluk

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Gotta Be Saints
The Shock of Holiness with Dr. Michael Pakaluk
Dec 02, 2025 Season 12 Episode 235

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In this episode of the Gotta Be Saints Podcast, I sit down with Dr. Michael Pakaluk — husband, father of 15, philosopher, and author of The Shock of Holiness: Finding the Romance of Everyday Life.

We talk about the beauty of the Catholic faith, why holiness is both deeply attractive and deeply demanding, and how God meets us in the very ordinary, sometimes messy, details of daily life.

From stories about daily Mass with small children, to reflections on his late wife Ruth (now a Servant of God), to a mind-blowing insight into Jesus walking on water and the Eucharist, this conversation will help you see your own life with new eyes.

About Dr. Michael Pakaluk

  • Professor of Political Economy at the Catholic University of America (Bush School of Business)
  • Philosopher and scholar, especially in the thought of Aristotle
  • Author of 14 books (with more on the way!) and father of 15 children
  • Widower of Ruth Pakaluk, whose cause for canonization has begun, and husband of Catherine Pakaluk, author of Hannah’s Children

In this episode, we talk about:

  • The beauty of the Catholic faith
  • Why holiness is so attractive — and so uncomfortable
  • Ruth’s story and the reality of heroic holiness
  • The universal call to holiness in ordinary life
  • The romance of everyday life
  • A fresh look at the Eucharist and transubstantiation
  • How to actually live this out

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📘 The Shock of Holiness: Finding the Romance of Everyday Life

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  • Or ask your local Catholic bookstore to order it (and put a copy on the shelf!)

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