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You know, just make"},{"speaker":"Katie Berlin","startTime":1589.43,"endTime":1593.39,"body":"that commitment to yourself and"},{"speaker":"Katie Berlin","startTime":1589.43,"endTime":1593.39,"body":"go in thinking I can do this."},{"speaker":"Katie Berlin","startTime":1593.54,"endTime":1596.06,"body":"But I get to choose if I want to"},{"speaker":"Katie Berlin","startTime":1593.54,"endTime":1596.06,"body":"continue doing it."},{"speaker":"Stacey Cordivano","startTime":1596.36,"endTime":1597.95,"body":"Yeah, I think"},{"speaker":"Stacey Cordivano","startTime":1596.36,"endTime":1597.95,"body":"that's a great challenge. 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I will celebrate them all."},{"speaker":"Stacey Cordivano","startTime":1662.17,"endTime":1666.28,"body":"I'm so glad we got a chance to"},{"speaker":"Stacey Cordivano","startTime":1666.28,"endTime":1669.55,"body":"connect. I think that the"},{"speaker":"Stacey Cordivano","startTime":1666.28,"endTime":1669.55,"body":"content you put out is awesome."},{"speaker":"Stacey Cordivano","startTime":1669.58,"endTime":1673.45,"body":"And everyone should go follow"},{"speaker":"Stacey Cordivano","startTime":1669.58,"endTime":1673.45,"body":"you and listen to the podcast."},{"speaker":"Stacey Cordivano","startTime":1673.51,"endTime":1675.46,"body":"I'm really appreciative of your"},{"speaker":"Stacey Cordivano","startTime":1673.51,"endTime":1675.46,"body":"time."},{"speaker":"Katie Berlin","startTime":1675.61,"endTime":1678.04,"body":"Thank you so much."},{"speaker":"Katie Berlin","startTime":1675.61,"endTime":1678.04,"body":"This has been so fun. And I've"},{"speaker":"Katie Berlin","startTime":1678.04,"endTime":1680.32,"body":"followed you for a while on"},{"speaker":"Katie Berlin","startTime":1678.04,"endTime":1680.32,"body":"Instagram. It's really nice to"},{"speaker":"Katie Berlin","startTime":1680.32,"endTime":1683.95,"body":"get to know you. Yeah, like and"},{"speaker":"Katie Berlin","startTime":1680.32,"endTime":1683.95,"body":"not just a voice on your on your"},{"speaker":"Katie Berlin","startTime":1683.95,"endTime":1686.65,"body":"podcast. So thank you so much"},{"speaker":"Katie Berlin","startTime":1683.95,"endTime":1686.65,"body":"for having me."},{"speaker":"Stacey Cordivano","startTime":1688.84,"endTime":1691.24,"body":"Thank you so"},{"speaker":"Stacey Cordivano","startTime":1688.84,"endTime":1691.24,"body":"much to Dr. Katie Berlin for"},{"speaker":"Stacey Cordivano","startTime":1691.24,"endTime":1695.32,"body":"spending some time with me. I"},{"speaker":"Stacey Cordivano","startTime":1691.24,"endTime":1695.32,"body":"personally found that interview"},{"speaker":"Stacey Cordivano","startTime":1695.38,"endTime":1699.7,"body":"really inspiring. And her new"},{"speaker":"Stacey Cordivano","startTime":1695.38,"endTime":1699.7,"body":"podcast is also really"},{"speaker":"Stacey Cordivano","startTime":1699.7,"endTime":1703.21,"body":"inspiring. So I hope you'll go"},{"speaker":"Stacey Cordivano","startTime":1699.7,"endTime":1703.21,"body":"check that out. I also hope"},{"speaker":"Stacey Cordivano","startTime":1703.21,"endTime":1708.49,"body":"you'll take us up on our"},{"speaker":"Stacey Cordivano","startTime":1703.21,"endTime":1708.49,"body":"challenge to try three new short"},{"speaker":"Stacey Cordivano","startTime":1708.52,"endTime":1711.91,"body":"activities to move your body"},{"speaker":"Stacey Cordivano","startTime":1708.52,"endTime":1711.91,"body":"this week. I took the challenge"},{"speaker":"Stacey Cordivano","startTime":1711.91,"endTime":1715.27,"body":"right after we recorded and I"},{"speaker":"Stacey Cordivano","startTime":1711.91,"endTime":1715.27,"body":"have to say I did a boot camp"},{"speaker":"Stacey Cordivano","startTime":1715.33,"endTime":1718.6,"body":"video that was super fun, and it"},{"speaker":"Stacey Cordivano","startTime":1715.33,"endTime":1718.6,"body":"was not something I normally"},{"speaker":"Stacey Cordivano","startTime":1718.6,"endTime":1721.99,"body":"would have picked. So I'm"},{"speaker":"Stacey Cordivano","startTime":1718.6,"endTime":1721.99,"body":"excited about that. Let us know"},{"speaker":"Stacey Cordivano","startTime":1721.99,"endTime":1725.02,"body":"what you tried, how it worked,"},{"speaker":"Stacey Cordivano","startTime":1721.99,"endTime":1725.02,"body":"tag both of us. She's"},{"speaker":"Stacey Cordivano","startTime":1725.35,"endTime":1729.25,"body":"@thevetreset and I am"},{"speaker":"Stacey Cordivano","startTime":1725.35,"endTime":1729.25,"body":"@thewholeveterinarian. If you"},{"speaker":"Stacey Cordivano","startTime":1729.25,"endTime":1733.6,"body":"enjoy this podcast, please hit"},{"speaker":"Stacey Cordivano","startTime":1729.25,"endTime":1733.6,"body":"subscribe. leave a review if you"},{"speaker":"Stacey Cordivano","startTime":1733.6,"endTime":1738.43,"body":"feel so inclined. And also I am"},{"speaker":"Stacey Cordivano","startTime":1733.6,"endTime":1738.43,"body":"starting a new email list. I"},{"speaker":"Stacey Cordivano","startTime":1738.43,"endTime":1742.24,"body":"will send out one monthly"},{"speaker":"Stacey Cordivano","startTime":1738.43,"endTime":1742.24,"body":"summary just recapping the"},{"speaker":"Stacey Cordivano","startTime":1742.24,"endTime":1745.78,"body":"interviews we've published and"},{"speaker":"Stacey Cordivano","startTime":1742.24,"endTime":1745.78,"body":"some tidbits that we've learned"},{"speaker":"Stacey Cordivano","startTime":1745.78,"endTime":1748.3,"body":"maybe some other articles I've"},{"speaker":"Stacey Cordivano","startTime":1745.78,"endTime":1748.3,"body":"seen throughout the month that I"},{"speaker":"Stacey Cordivano","startTime":1748.3,"endTime":1751.87,"body":"find interesting. I promise I"},{"speaker":"Stacey Cordivano","startTime":1748.3,"endTime":1751.87,"body":"will not spam you with a bunch"},{"speaker":"Stacey Cordivano","startTime":1751.87,"endTime":1754.87,"body":"of stuff. So if you're"},{"speaker":"Stacey Cordivano","startTime":1751.87,"endTime":1754.87,"body":"interested, go to the website"},{"speaker":"Stacey Cordivano","startTime":1754.87,"endTime":1756.97,"body":"and sign up for the newsletter"},{"speaker":"Stacey Cordivano","startTime":1754.87,"endTime":1756.97,"body":"and there's also a little"},{"speaker":"Stacey Cordivano","startTime":1756.97,"endTime":1759.82,"body":"freebie that you'll get when you"},{"speaker":"Stacey Cordivano","startTime":1756.97,"endTime":1759.82,"body":"sign up. I hope you guys have a"},{"speaker":"Stacey Cordivano","startTime":1759.82,"endTime":1761.8,"body":"great week and I'll talk to you"},{"speaker":"Stacey Cordivano","startTime":1759.82,"endTime":1761.8,"body":"again soon!"}]}