Agents of Hope

Visible Learning, teacher mind frames and purpose of education with John Hattie

Nazaam Hussain, John Hattie Season 4 Episode 2

I had a conversation with John Hattie because of my interest in using the teaching strategies and approaches that can support learners to gain knowledge and skills whilst promoting intrinsic motivation and habits for lifelong learning. In this talk, John and I discuss; what is Visible Learning, the use and misuse of effect size calculations, factors that accelerate learning, interpretation of research and the purpose of education. We finish the conversation with John’s hopes for the future in his personal and professional life. 

I hope you enjoy the talk!

Dr Nazam Hussain (Educational Psychologist)

See below for links to references discussed in the talk.  


  • Hattie, J. (2012). Visible Learning for Teachers: Maximise Impact on Learning. London: Routledge.


  • Hattie, J., & Yates, G.C. (2013). Visible Learning and the science of how we learn. New York: Routledge.



  • Hattie, J., & Zierer, K. (2018). 10 Mindframes for Visible Learning. Teaching for Success. London: Routledge. 


  • Nuthall, G.A.  (2007). The hidden lives of learners. Wellington: New Zealand Council for Educational Research. 




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