Charly Nelson - The Importance of Finding Purpose, Building Confidence and Growing Through Community

We Are Photo is an inclusive photography community and meet-up group dedicated to bringing the joy back into photography while creating space for genuine creativity, connection, and growth. Founded in December 2022, the community has quickly grown into a thriving network of photographers of all levels, from complete beginners picking up a camera for the first time to seasoned professionals looking to refine their craft and connect with others who share their passion.

At its core, We Are Photo is built on the belief that photography should be fun, accessible, and collaborative. Through its free monthly meet-ups across Essex and Hertfordshire, the group provides a welcoming environment where members can practice their skills, explore new locations, and build meaningful relationships with like-minded creatives. Each event is thoughtfully designed to encourage both learning and play, featuring themed challenges and light-hearted competitions that inspire participants to step outside their comfort zones while enjoying the process.

Beyond the monthly gatherings, We Are Photo offers in-person experience workshops tailored for photographers looking to build or strengthen their portfolios in areas such as family, animal, and wedding photography. These sessions place a strong emphasis on storytelling through portraits, focusing on connection, emotion, and authentic relationships—helping photographers develop not just technical ability, but a deeper creative perspective.

For those who prefer to learn at their own pace or from a distance, the community also provides a range of online courses designed to help photographers refine their skills and elevate their work. Whether someone is just starting out or looking to take their photography to the next level, We Are Photo offers both the tools and the supportive community to help them grow.

Through its combination of in-person experiences and online learning, We Are Photo continues to foster a vibrant, encouraging space where creativity thrives, confidence builds, and photographers are reminded why they fell in love with photography in the first place.

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Transcript

Welcome And Real Life Chat

SPEAKER_00 0:03

Welcome to NinjaCast, a photography podcast powered by Studio Ninja, the world's highest rated business management app, built specifically for photographers. Listen and learn as the most successful photographers on the planet share their knowledge to help you transform every element of your photography business. Here's your host, Sally Shaw.

SPEAKER_02 0:29

Hello, good morning. How are you? Hi, I'm good, thank you. How are you? Good, I'm very good. Thank you. So thank you so much for joining us on the show today. I know that your little boy's off school today, and there's all sorts of life stuff going on, isn't there? So I really appreciate you taking the time.

SPEAKER_01 0:44

It's always the way. You want to do something really cool, and your life just goes crazy. So yeah, it's always the way.

SPEAKER_02 0:51

But we move, we go forward. It's the curse of being self-employed, right?

SPEAKER_01 0:55

Absolutely. Always. And being a mother as well, just being a parent.

SPEAKER_02 1:00

Absolutely. How old's your little boy? He will be four in June. Oh, so same age as my little girl. My little girl's four in August, and it's it's a fun age, but my gosh, does it have its challenging days?

SPEAKER_01 1:12

She's starting school this year.

SPEAKER_02 1:14

Yeah, she starts school in September. She's already at preschool, so she's already kind of lapping up the school uniform, and you know, she she loves it. She's definitely, I think she's gonna thrive there. Um she's really kind of academically minded. She she left her nursery because she was like, Mum, I want to learn my ABCs and my letters and what what H is for. And the nursery, like, we're learning through play, so maybe she needs to go to a preschool now.

SPEAKER_01 1:42

That's so lovely. My son's very similar, he knows all his ABCs, his numbers, he's very academic, and he's very much looking forward to big school. So we're really excited for him.

SPEAKER_02 1:53

It's such a cool time at the same time, though. I'm like, this is my last summer, like with my baby before she goes to big school. It's scary.

SPEAKER_01 2:02

It's really it's a really big moment as a parent to sort of let them go a little bit as well.

SPEAKER_02 2:06

Yeah, they're not so little anymore when they go to school, are they? Anyway, we digress.

How Charlie Started In Weddings

SPEAKER_02 2:12

Can you give us a little bit of background? Can you introduce yourself, tell us who you are in the industry and what you do?

SPEAKER_01 2:17

Absolutely. So my name is Charlie and I run Charlie May photography. I have been in the industry since 2014, so quite a long time. Um, although I had a camera in my hand way before that. So from 2014, I was sort of part-time wedding photographer, but also part-time working in London. So my background really comes from sort of trying to start my wedding photography business, but also still working in London. And the reason why I got into weddings in the first place is because in 2012 my dad said to me, Will you shoot my friend's wedding? And I was like, Oh, I'm not so sure about this because I'd only done sort of headshots and family stuff. But I took the opportunity, and the really funny thing about it was I only charged them £250 in cash for the wedding. But I owed my dad £250. Oh. So the money went straight to him, which is a really funny story that I tell because it's how it all started. When I did that wedding in 2012, it really gave me a flavour for what I could be with my career as a photographer. And when 2014 came around, I created my company and I was like, this is what I want to do. But it took me a long time to really build the confidence to really go forward with it, and never really had the opportunities to build a good portfolio and sort of I guess the education on how to really get myself into that. It was only because I had the opportunity for my dad that I was able to do that wedding. So I went to work in London and I actually worked as a videographer in London, so I still stayed within the same realms of what I love, but I was videoing food for a long time, working with some really cool brands, and I built myself up along that career ladder. But it came to 2018, and I realized that I really, really wanted to go into the wedding industry. So I set myself a task that I would get a whole year's worth of bookings before I could quit my job. And wow, that was a task. As a lot of people know, it's really difficult to build a full-time business. Um, and some of the ways that I managed to do it was through mainly connection building, so building on relationships, meeting people in the industry, um, and just really trying to find my feet with building a portfolio, which was really difficult without having those opportunities. But I did manage to book a whole year of weddings, and it was incredible. So 2019 came around and I quit my job, and I was like, yay! I can finally leave like London and I could go and pursue my career as a photographer finally, after all these years of you know, stepping my toe in, stepping it out again, like not really knowing how to do it, and I just thought, you know what, I'm just gonna do it this time. So I quit my job in June 2019, and it was full steam ahead, wedding, wedding, wedding. And then 2020 came

Booking A Year Before Quitting

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along, and it literally pulled the rug from underneath me. And I can feel the tears coming as I talk about it because it was such a life-shattering moment for me to have built all of those wedding, all of those couples and clients, and all of that business that I brought in for myself by myself, for it then to just be like pause. And I was just like, I don't know how to breathe right now. I couldn't breathe. I think in total I lost about £80,000 in revenue just because of the constant rescheduling. Some of the clients that I'd had booked in for 2020 didn't even get married until 22. There was like a whole pushback of dates, as you guys already know, and you everyone collectively went through it. At that time, I didn't know what to do because obviously I wasn't, I didn't have a full-time job anymore. I was lucky that my partner worked, so we we sort of helped each other, but it was a really unprecedented time, and it really put my life into into like perspective. And I pivoted, I went into sort of family photography, brand photography, just trying to find different avenues that would help me move forward and almost just sort of fill the gap until weddings were back. And I was just like, when are they back? When are they back? And then 2021 came around and you know, things started moving, things started opening, and I started going back to like to the weddings, and I was thinking this is great, okay, we're getting back on track now. And then September 2021, I fell pregnant unexpectedly with my son, so he wasn't planned at all. Um, and yeah, so then another major life curveball hit my way, and you know what? I'm so lucky that I was able to fall pregnant because I've got some fertility issues that um I know a lot of women do suffer with, and so for us to fall pregnant really randomly was like a real blessing. But obviously, when you do get pregnant and you run a full-time business, that does mean that there are going to be some sacrifices and rescheduling along the way. So I did have to associate shoot out, I did have to reschedule some things, and again, my business was sort of on pause in a sense. Yeah, I felt like I couldn't push forward as I was doing before. So it's been like a long, long period of just pause, really, which I think when you go into business, you never really know what to expect. And I it really did pull the carpet from underneath me in the most horrific ways, but in the most beautiful ways as well, becoming a parent. Yeah, but I I managed to navigate, you know, my life around that. And 10 weeks postpartum, I went back to work shooting weddings, and you know what? I know it was really early, but I needed to get back to it. It slacked my purpose, my love, and it's my happy place of where I want to be. So I went back to the weddings 10 weeks postpartum, and then by the time my son Henry was around

Covid Disruption And Lost Income

SPEAKER_01 8:55

five months old, I felt a bit lost. I felt, as you know, as most women who go through postpartum, you do kind of lose yourself and you know, unsure of where you're going in life. And it made me think back to who I was before I started my wedding business and why I fell in love with photography in in the first place, because the pandemic made me pivot. So pivoting into families and branding really sort of confused me. I wasn't really, my branding wasn't really on point, my messaging was unclear, I felt like I was just treading through muddy water with it all. Whereas previously in 2019, I was like so clear, like a racehorse just charging forward. Whereas now at this point, I was like, what am I even doing? Um and I really wanted to ignite my passion for photography again and go back to the basics. And the only way I really knew how to do that was just by picking my camera up again and just trying different things. But it's really difficult when you're juggling a child and you're confused about what you want to do. So it was like, okay, I think I need to go back to like the basics of like photographing trees. And I know it sounds really silly, but like I really was at a crossroads in my business and my head, my mental health, everything. So what I decided to do was um post on my local group if anybody wanted to meet me at the town park to take photos. And as silly and as random as it was, it was a way for me to try and connect with other people and try and make sense of everything that I was going through, and also to try and regain my identity as a photographer again. So it was December 2022, it was the day before it snowed, so it was really icy, and I had no idea who was going to turn up. I mean, I might have just been there on my own, but I put the call out and I turned up to the local park at 10 in the morning, and to my surprise, there was 12 people there.

SPEAKER_02 11:14

Wow, that's amazing.

SPEAKER_01 11:16

12 people in the car park, all with their cameras and backpacks waiting for me. And I literally just I looked over at them in the distance in a group, and I literally just was like, holy, oh my god, like what have I done? Um, so I walked over and I just remember feeling really nervous, and I was just like, Thank you for coming, and you know, I don't know what this is, but I just really hope that we can take some pictures together. Um, it's really nice to meet you and and all of that stuff. And we we went and did the meetup and we walked around the local park, got some nice pictures of all the icicle spiderwebs, and and it really did like open my eyes to my love for my camera and just just taking a pause and walking with people and just learning like what camera do you have? And oh, why

Postpartum Work Return And Identity Shift

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did you get into photography? And it was just a really nice breather away from the stress and strain of everything that I'd been through. And on the way back to the car park after the meet, one of the ladies said to me, You do realize that you could be doing this for the rest of your life, and I was like, Oh my god, like is that like a spirit like talking to me? It was really strange the way she said it to me, and it always stood out to me those words. I thought, no way, like this is this is just a thing that I wanted to do. We got back to the car park and someone said to me, So when's the next meetup? And I was like, um, I'll get back to you. So I went home and I told my partner, I said, You'll never guess what. 12 people turned up and they won another one. I said, I don't even know what I'm doing. Like, what is this? And um January came around and we didn't do one in January because I think I was too scared, I was so nervous. But I had started our Facebook group at that point so people could post their pictures from our first meeting in there. And our Facebook group just started growing over January, was like 50 people, a hundred people, two hundred people, and it was just like getting out of control. Like in my mind, I'm like, this is getting out of control now. Like, I can't manage this amount of people. But to do something like people, yeah, I can barely manage myself. Um, and so February came around and I organized our next meetup, and I actually got my friend to bring her 10 golden retrievers along, and we all photographed the dogs, which was incredible. And I think that really set the tone for what was to come over the next four years because people just saw this light, this opportunity. Um, and it was a really special meetup because I feel like people just they really saw something special within what we were about to create. And I didn't know what was going to come, you know, it was very unsure of waters at that point. So through 2023, we did a meetup every single month for the 12 months. We didn't do any workshops or anything, it was just the free monthly meetup, and the group grew to like 700 people at that point. It was quite getting quite large at that point. And again, I didn't really know where we were going with it. I was just turning up every month and giving people challenges, and and then I was like falling in love with photography again, and I learned new skills and new things, and it was all just happening so fast. By the end of 2023, I decided to do our first workshop, and I was like, okay, I'm gonna put all of my knowledge over the years of shooting weddings, shooting families, uh, all the brand stuff that I've done, and just pack it into an in-person, hands-on experience workshop. And one of my friends, she's a makeup artist in the wedding industry, and I just said to her, Can you please model for me with your family? You'll get all the photos like included. I just want to test the waters really and see if my community wants this. And I think 16 members signed up to it, so it was quite a big workshop, and it was an incredible, it was like a door opening, you know, like one of those moments where like the people have approved and the gate has now opened. And I was like, oh my god, what have I started? Like this workshop has gone so well. People learnt so much. I was teaching them how like the prompts and poses, and you know, just helping them through

The First Park Photo Meetup

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like a natural family shoot, how it would progress and all of those things, and they just absolutely loved it. But on top of that, they got to actually take turns shooting with the family and that hands-on experience, and people took away so much knowledge, so I thought, right, okay, this is what people want, they want in-person practical experience with you know a subject. So 2024 came around, and this was a big year for us because we really stepped it up. So we started our workshops officially. So by April 24, we had our first engagement photo workshop. So we had a real engaged couple come along, and again, we had like 16 members turn up. And because of my experience in the wedding industry and working with couples, I was able to sort of guide them through all of that. Um, but we also had someone come on as an expert with like camera settings and stuff. So it wasn't just me, you know, teaching prompts and poses, we had an expert come in to help them with their settings and their, you know, all of that good stuff that people really need to know about. As the year progressed, we did more and more workshops. We did a horse and owner workshop, we did um dog, we yeah, dog photography, maternity, you name it. We did so many over the year, and then we did our first festival experience day.

SPEAKER_00 17:24

Wow.

SPEAKER_01 17:24

So my dad is a famous DJ, so I'm very lucky to have a lot of connections in the music industry. Not that I use them very often, but in this case, I organized a group of us to go to a big music festival, and I think Peter Andre was headlining, which was quite cool. And uh everyone had crew passes, and it was a good opportunity for people to kind of dip their toe in the sort of music industry, photography space. And actually, two of those members have now gone on to create businesses in the music industry. So they're now fully booked doing festival and event photography. So, yeah, so like them having that first experience to then take that and go, I love this so much, I'm now gonna run with it and go and do it full-time.

SPEAKER_02 18:14

Well, the music industry industry I believe to be quite difficult to kind of be able to jump that barrier and so to speak, and and get into that side of being uh an event and a you know, a gig photographer. And from what I know from friends that do it, you know, it took them quite a long time to actually get, you know, in in places like festivals and have, you know, the like you say, the crew pass to be able to be the official photographer on site.

SPEAKER_01 18:39

Yeah, it's really difficult. And I'm very lucky that I have that connection. So I'm able to sort of organise those. And it's being for me, it's giving those photographers those opportunities to kind of prove themselves. Like, can you come, you know, do you want to come along, be a crew member? And then if you do like it, you can then push forward of it yourself. But it's giving photographers that that door to open, you know, into these industries. And I think that's kind of where we are photo kind of became that. It became sort of a gateway for people. Um, and I think the reason why I've I've done this is because I never had that gateway when I was starting in my career. No one gave me a gateway, there was no door. I had to literally hammer the bricks

Growing A Facebook Group Fast

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down just to get anywhere.

SPEAKER_02 19:27

And I always said to myself, existed it when we started. Like I I don't remember there being even 1% of the amount of education we have nowadays, you know, which is incredible the amount that there is out there now. But, you know, photographers that have been in the industry like 12, 15 years ago, that just didn't exist.

SPEAKER_01 19:48

No, you had to make your own opportunities. And, you know, it's really difficult now today with like social media and the sheer volume of creatives. I think you really do have to set yourself apart from the others to really get those opportunities. And that can be really difficult, particularly if you're a beginner or you're starting out, um, you may not know the industry very well. Um, we really want to act like someone that you can come to for advice um to help you kind of guide you into that because you know, joining a new industry is really difficult, particularly when you don't know. I know it sounds silly, but there are rules and like ways of doing things. Um and you know, collectively, particularly in the wedding industry, we have our own rules and like our expectations of what we expect from people. And if you're new, you're not going to know those. So we kind of want to be those people to be like, hey, come on our workshop, we'll teach you all the practical things, but also you'll get to know, you know, how to really be in the industry and how to sort of slot yourself in. Um but yeah, so the the music festival thing is brilliant because people get those opportunities and we do them every year. So we did one in 25 and we've got another one this year as well. Um, so every single year I give a small group of people a chance to come and photograph a festival. Um, and they're with some really big household names, so you know this are really great opportunities for people to get connected with people. Yeah. In 25, we did our first wedding styled shoot as well, which was a big one for us because I've done wedding styled shoots for my own business for many years, and I've also collectively gone on other people's ones, but I've hadn't organised one for the group. But we did one and it was incredible. And we had majority were wedding photographers that came, and it was just a great way for them to be creative. Like a lot of the feedback we had were seasoned pros coming along, being like, I don't need the experience, I just want to shoot without any expectation. And I think that's the beauty about what we've built here is that. A lot of the feedback we've had is like, I've just come along because I just want to get out. I just want to take portraits because I mean, you know, I just want to do it for the fun of it. We get a lot of that with it.

SPEAKER_02 22:12

We get a lot of that create creativity butt, don't you, when you've been doing it for such a long time. And like, you know, it's, you know, it weddings almost become the mundane when it's, you know, your bread and butter, it's what you do all the time. You must, you know, in the height of summer, you can be attending many, many weddings in any given month. That you you do fall really easily fall into that trap of, you know, shooting the safe stuff, making sure that you've got the stuff that the couple expect. And there's all you almost kind of forget that to shoot for you too. You I mean,

Turning Meetups Into Hands-On Workshops

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I think the couple are always priority, right? They're you know, it's their wedding day. It's you you want to be creating for your couple and making sure that your couple are over the moon when they get the gallery back. But I think at the same time, lots of photographers either don't know that they can shoot for themselves on that day as well, or they forget to. Um, so style shoots are a great way for photographers for for photographers to have that creative release and for them to just be able to say, okay, there's a couple here, but there's no expectation, there's no deliverables. Like I can just do whatever comes to mind.

SPEAKER_01 23:16

And even, you know, even like wedding photographers not doing just wedding-styled shoots, like a lot of our wedding photographers come to our astrophotography workshops because they get to learn about slow shutter speeds and how how to use that, you know, and they can transfer that with their couples when they're doing couple portraits and movement shots. They could come to a dog photography workshop and learn about high shutter speeds and how to capture a dog literally, you know, running in the mid-air, you know. And that would work great for like confetti shots and any other creative shots if you're a wedding photographer. So, particularly working with children, they run around so fast, you need to learn how to balance all your settings. So, a lot of these workshops transfer skills across each other. It's not just, oh, I'm interested in that niche and that's the niche I'm gonna go with. You know, we have a lot of pros coming to a lot of our workshops just because they want to change and they want to practice their skills. And the biggest thing with Real Photo is that our main priority is inclusivity and creating a safe space for people. So a lot of my experience with online Facebook groups and communities is that they can be really um bait to a shark. That's probably the way I describe it. And we have a really big rule in our Facebook group is no critiquing. So we don't critique people's work unless they specifically ask, hey, how can I improve this? We also monitor the comments of that comment box because we want to create a space where

Festival Access And New Career Paths

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you feel comfortable, safe, happy to be in our space and not feel like judged or because everybody's at a different level. We could have season pros and complete beginners in our group, and we don't want anyone to compare themselves because you're totally different journeys, you know, totally different stages of where you are in your in your career with your photography. So we really wanted to create a space where everyone felt happy to be there because some of the groups are wild, and oh my god, like you would feel so terrified to post a picture in a group and have several people comment saying that's not good enough, and that can really damage your confidence, all of the things that you maybe have been building on, and you know, we all come from somewhere, like we all start from somewhere, and I do feel like photography is you know an extension of you, it's an extension of your vision, of your your view of the world, and for someone to then put that down is is really horrid. I think, like you said, like our main priority, particularly as business owners, is our feedback from our couples, not from other people in the industry. I think it's got to be, you know, couple focused or client focused, not so much worrying about everyone else. So I think creating a space where it's kind and safe is really important to me.

SPEAKER_02 26:21

Yeah, definitely. I think when you're a when you're a new photographer as well, or you're in that first couple of years, kind of peer opinion really does matter, doesn't it? Because you're you're still finding your feet, you're still learning kind of you know what what you want to do, what your style is, what your shooting style is, what your editing style is, who you are in

Styled Shoots And Creative Freedom

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the industry, who you are to your couples, what brand you want to be. So a lot of the time you do lean on peers. And I'd like to say that that's always a positive experience, but a lot of the time it isn't. Um, and I think it's great that there's a group out there that you know really prioritises lifting people up rather than yeah, it's a real big priority for us.

SPEAKER_01 27:01

I mean, when I was younger and starting photography, so this is pre-sort of doing any weddings of any type. This is when I was sort of like photographing fruit bowls and my mum's dog, for example, and just really just practising. I would feel so embarrassed to ask someone who was a higher skilled person than me a hard question. And I always felt really gut-wrenchingly embarrassed about things that I wanted to know. And so my mission with We Are Photo is to encourage new photographers and season pros to ask the embarrassing hard questions. Like it could be a simple question, like, oh, you know, what shutter speed is actually for this? But someone might feel really embarrassed to ask that because they may be expected to know that answer already, but we don't have all the knowledge. There has been times where I've picked up my camera and gone, just gone with it and not really thought about the settings or or really understood what I'm doing with it. I just know it's working for me. I think a lot of photographers go through that and it's almost like a shameful

Transferable Skills Across Photography Genres

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feeling like, oh, I don't know my tech very well. And they always say, like, all gear and no idea. But like, I think we should be able to ask those embarrassing questions, regardless of where we're at. So if we're highly skilled or we're not quite there yet, we should be able to ask that. So for we are photo, like I want people to be able to post in the group or ask me on a meetup, Charlie, what what is this? I feel really stupid asking this question. Am I stupid? Am I dumb? No, like you should be able to ask because if you don't ask, you're never going to improve. Yeah. And so many photographers are so worried and anxious about asking these hard questions. So I encourage everyone, if you've got a silly question that's burning in your head about ISO or shutter speed or aperture, just ask, like, but ask in a in a really supportive group. And there are groups out there that are supportive.

SPEAKER_02 29:06

Yeah, I love that. And I'm so glad that we are photo exists because I know that there's probably another 10 groups out there that, you know, there are people in that group that like to tear others down. And it it's a shame, especially for photographers coming into the industry, you know, they're brand new. Um, or this is this is the first time they've ventured into groups, they need to know that there are supportive spaces out there in the industry.

Building A Kind No-Critique Space

SPEAKER_02 29:30

Um, and we are photo is one of them, which is awesome. Um, just before we go into our closing questions, Charlie, I just want you to tell us a little bit more about the awards that you're up for at the moment with We Are Photo.

SPEAKER_01 29:42

Oh my god. So um earlier this year we were nominated by Amateur Photographer Magazine, which was a massive, massive career highlight for We Are Photo. I mean, they are a huge magazine, very, very highly respected in the industry. And we came, so we didn't win, but we came eighth out of a hundred communities. And they actually emailed me and said, like, what a credit to you for being like a local group and becoming and getting eighth is just insane. So they were like, keep going, keep pushing, keep growing because you are onto some incredible things. So I literally cried when I got that email because I was just I mean, I cried when we got nominated. I mean, like it was just insane to be nominated with them. Um, a really big, big highlight for us. And then we are also up for another award with our local council, and we have a black tie dinner actually next week to find out if we've won. And we're up for the Heritage and Culture Award because we do so much for our community hosting the free meetups every single month. We've given so many of our members purpose, a goal every month. We have, you know, college kids come with their parents, we have children as young as four come along. Um, you know, we have people that struggle with their mental health. There's so many variants and so many variations of people that come along just to be part of our community. So we're really, really excited for that. And fingers crossed, we win.

SPEAKER_02 31:15

Everything crossed for you. Um just to move into our closing questions, then, Charlie, if you could start your career all over again, knowing everything that you know from all of the years in the industry and then the creation of the community that you have now, is there anything that you'd do differently?

SPEAKER_01 31:31

I would definitely meet with more people. I think when I started, I shied myself away and was so embarrassed to even approach someone of a higher skill set than me for help. I wouldn't do that the next time. I would approach that person and say, Can you just show me how to do this? And I think that's such a it I know it feels scary, but once you've done it, you're feel so empowered. And once you know how to set your ISO, your aperture and everything, you're ready to go. So I wish I hadn't held myself back in that way.

SPEAKER_02 32:04

Yeah, I love that answer. And a final piece of advice, a kind of a golden nugget takeaway. If our listeners

Awards Recognition And Key Takeaways

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take away one thing that's the most important thing from everything you've said, what would that be?

SPEAKER_01 32:15

Practice makes perfect. Like just practice, get out there, take pictures of your mum's dog, of your fruit bowl. If you if you're curious about how a certain lighting works, just get your flash out and try. There's just don't sit on the bench, just keep practicing. And I always say, practice makes perfect, and just keep doing it because you will only learn by doing.

SPEAKER_02 32:39

I love that. If our listeners would like to get in touch, come and join your community. Can you drop us a load of links verbally? Um, and the links will also be in the show notes for every anyone that wants to pick them up as well. Um, but if you can tell me about where they can find you.

SPEAKER_01 32:53

Absolutely. So you can find us at werephotogroup.com for our website. We have our calendar on there and it all links to our Facebook group. We're on Instagram at We Are Photo, and we're also on TikTok at We are Photo

Where To Find We Are Photo

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Group.

SPEAKER_02 33:05

Amazing. Charlie, thank you so, so much for finding the time to chat with me today. I hope your little boy has is uh has a lovely day off school today. Hopefully he's not doing too much work.

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I'm now gonna put some non-casual, some casual clothes on and go and play with him now in the garden.

SPEAKER_02 33:23

Oh, bless him. Well, thank you again for making the time, and I'll catch you soon. Thank you so much. Thanks, Charlie. Bye.

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