Metropolitan Weddings Podcast
Metropolitan Weddings Podcast
Meet The Wedding Pro - with Dr. Bharat Shah with Shah Plastic Surgery
The date is set, the cameras are unforgiving, and every decision shows up in high definition. We brought in Dr. Bharat Shah—triple board-certified plastic surgeon and longtime innovator—to lay out a practical, calm path to looking like your best self on the wedding day and the honeymoon without panic or guesswork. The plan starts with timing: when to book consults, how long noninvasive treatments take to peak, and which procedures demand real recovery windows.
We talk frankly about GLP-1 weight loss changes, and how to restore youthful balance with skin tightening, strategic volume, and high-definition liposuction. For listeners who prefer noninvasive options, we dive into SoftWave ultrasound tightening—an FDA-cleared, no-downtime collagen stimulator that peaks around three months—and smart combinations with neuromodulators, fillers, and glow-boosting skin hydration to look rested instead of stressed. On the body side, learn how targeted muscle stimulation can build abs or lift glutes by up to 20% in a short series, and how to schedule it so results land when the photos do.
Hair matters, too. We cover the reality of laser hair removal timelines, plus modern hair growth strategies: FUE transplants that avoid a long scar, PRP, medical-grade laser caps, and platelet-derived exosome serums that feed follicles without injections. For brides, grooms, moms, and dads, we frame a six- to two-month roadmap you can actually follow: what to do at each stage, what to avoid last-minute, and how to keep bruises and downtime off the calendar.
Dr. Shah also explains why credentials and setting matter—board certification, constant technique updates, and a dedicated private OR with a seasoned team—so your experience is safe, smooth, and professional from consult to recovery. Ready to build a wedding-ready plan that fits your life and your schedule? Follow the show, share this episode with someone planning a big day, and leave a quick review so more couples find it.
I would like to preface by saying with very hard to get scheduled under this podcast because it's a very busy man. So we're excited to have finally gotten the chance to talk with you today. Please introduce yourself and what you do.
SPEAKER_00:Sure, I'm Dr. Barat Shaw and I'm a child plastic surgeon in medical science in Missouri. I'm a board certified plastic surgeon. I'm actually triple board certified and I've been performing plastic surgery for about 30 years now.
SPEAKER_04:30 years. I think I've well, I don't want to say how long I've known you because then I have to say that all of your hard work, you know, would have to like aid me. And we don't want to do that. I've been working very hard not to, right? Sorry, the very first thing that Elena always says to me is it's timing, Meg. We've got to get them in here in time. So let's talk about the we know you can do all these things, but the very first thing they need to be thinking about is the timing in their process. And like when in their planning process should they be thinking about what things.
SPEAKER_00:Yes, um, that's really important. Lana's exactly right. Uh and I one of my favorite sayings is that timing's everything. I don't remember where I heard it because everybody says it. It sounds really uh like it's a common phrase, but it means a lot, especially because with a wedding, you're always having to plan everything in such great advance, whether you're you're booking your venue, you're finding your dress, you're you're doing all those things. And that gets you really caught up in that. But you have to realize that you can't wait till the last minute to decide you want to make a change to get yourself tuned up for the wedding.
SPEAKER_04:Absolutely. So if they start planning, what, 18 months in advance, is that too early to start thinking about what things they might want to be doing and putting into their daily processes or like procedures and things like that?
SPEAKER_00:Definitely. It's never too early, but you know, at least a year if you're gonna do something really significant. You know, a lot of times when people are thinking about their perfect day, they're thinking about their photos or their honeymoon. And, you know, there's a lot of nowadays, everything is documented, high def cameras, high def, you know, videos, and you really want to make that perfect. And so there's a lot of pressure on everybody, and so they start thinking about what I can do to kind of make myself look my best and feel my best and feel the most confident on that day. And that can mean the bride, can be in the groom or both, could be the mother, and actually a lot of fathers of the bride's fathers uh coming in because that's their day to look their best as well for their family. So um when it's a when it's a young person that's getting married that wants to think about um making some changes, those are usually just fine-tuning changes, but sometimes it's like a breast augmentation or or liposuction or something to really just fine-tune their face or body. But a lot of times when it's apparent, they've got more changes, so they need a little more things done, so they need a little more recovery time.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, that makes sense. So we're looking at a year. A year's a good time to kind of come in and get a consultation and talk about things and you know you did hit on it.
SPEAKER_00:It sometimes it'll be three months before we can see you because we're really booked. And so thinking ahead, it's just like you know, reserving a restaurant or reserving a venue. You got to book ahead to get the one you want. And uh um, once we get you in, um, we've got you taken care of. But if we really want to get the process started, um, it does take sometimes a couple months to get in to see us. So that gives you time to really do your research and think about the things that you want to do or the changes that you want to make and ask about so that we can be ready to give you our best when we see you.
SPEAKER_04:And sometimes it might be something that that, you know, they it could be like a scar or something like that that they've had, um, that they just are like, you know what, this is my big day, I don't want that in a picture. So it could be something that's not even just like uh I I don't know, that they're they're thinking about that's kind of bothered them for a long time. Or it could be they were recently in a in an accident or something like that. So these are the kinds of things that they could be thinking about.
SPEAKER_05:I had a friend who had like a huge mole on his face, and yeah, he got that removed uh because he just didn't want that on there anymore. Yeah. And it kind of was like a part of who he was, but then afterwards it looked really good because it was, you know, yeah, it was you couldn't even imagine what he looked like without it. So and that's something you're gonna do.
SPEAKER_00:Everybody got their thing, you know. Um it could be they're they never liked their nose, or they always wanted to have, you know, a better figure, or they always wanted to have a tighter waist, or they used to have a tighter waist and they want it back. So it it it kind of brings it out that they know they're gonna be up there, everybody's gonna see them and they want to look and feel their best and not be sub self-conscious about it. So as long as they dress it early, they can get what they want. That's awesome.
SPEAKER_02:I never really thought about that either, because you know, we deal with couples a lot at the wedding venue when they're going through the process and everything. And like getting their dress, I'm sure once they go try on their dress, they may see things in that dress that they may want to change, like a birthmark or a mole or a scar that they never really thought about. But then when they have their dress on, it's just like really shown a lot.
SPEAKER_00:So it kind of we don't always look at ourselves like that until we're standing in front of that three-way mirror, and then everybody says, Wow, uh, you know, I really want to make myself my best that day, just so I feel like I'm glowing that day.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, I don't want to have something who that's bugging you. And you know, a girl may want to do a breast augmentation for her wedding day. So I say that the groom may want it too. Yeah, I was like, I was like, I we've definitely had people who've done many different things over the years for their wedding day. And I mean, it's like the perfect day to do what you want to do and to feel the way you want to feel for sure.
SPEAKER_00:Totally agreed, and I've seen it all. So um, and it's it's all always very common that uh the mother of the bride probably wants to get her baselift. Yeah, she wants to look her best. Or you know, the dad, he's wearing a tuxedo or a suit, and really all you see is his neck. You don't see the rest of his body because he's wearing a tuxedo, but he wants to look really good and look, you know, strong and youthful. And um that's the the time to do it, is about six months to a year beforehand.
SPEAKER_02:Man, that is such a good thing to think about, too, because the dads there's a lot of dads that really do care about how they look too. Oh, absolutely. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:And you're seeing like family and friends that you may have you you may not see on a daily basis. They're coming in from out of town, you may not have seen them in several years. It's kind of like a nice time to do a little touch.
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SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Definitely. It's kind of like a high school reunion. You know, everybody's getting together and hasn't seen so in a long time. And um, you just, you know, you it the years add up, and sometimes you go, Wow, I really, I really want to look like I feel. And so I'm gonna be in front of everybody and I want to show them how good I feel.
SPEAKER_05:And you know, I've a friend said this and it's true. You just want to feel you want to look rested. I think that you get start hitting a certain age as a mom where you people started saying, Wow, you look really tired. Are you tired? And you're like, No, I'm not actually. I'm not tired. I'm aging. I went through a phase where I was doing that quite a bit, and I was like, please quit telling me I look tired. I'm not tired.
SPEAKER_00:That is tough. And think about it. I've never met a bride that was well rested before her wedding day.
SPEAKER_03:That's true.
SPEAKER_00:So they need a quick tune-up beforehand. You know, they need to get their face hydrated. They need to get, you know, that glow back because they just got really worn ragged getting everything ready and making sure everybody's gonna be there and everything's on time and and fixing all the deadline problems and things. So the stress makes us look pretty stressed and aged, and they need a little boost right beforehand.
SPEAKER_05:Absolutely. Meg looks like she has a question. What are you getting ready to ask?
SPEAKER_04:I don't know. I'm just uh looking at like this, I don't know. I was looking through some stuff. What is the GLP one medication? What is this?
SPEAKER_00:So, you know, um, you know, uh there's been a lot of focus on different ways to lose weight. Of course, there's diet and exercise are the most um healthy and popular way to do it, but some people just can't can't get it. There's seven pounds they can't get it, or they have real problems with significant obesity. So, of course, there's been gastric bypass surgery and those types of surgeries have been around, and people have dramatic weight losses. I've had patients that have lost 150 pounds that way. Um, and um it's a dramatic change in their life. Um, but more recently, the weight loss medications like OZMPIC and others that are in that TLP category can be used to lose 20% of your body weight. Um, and if you lose that much weight, you can really make a big change, but it also impacts your shape. You deflate, you lose fat, and you lose muscle, and so it can it can it obviously you can get you can get thinner, but it's not always better because then your skin doesn't necessarily snap back in the way it should. Because as we're older, the skin just doesn't react as well. And so you hear of things like osempic face, people who start to get early jowls or sagging their neck because they deflated so fast that they look old now. They lost their volume. And so we do procedures to either tighten the skin and or to add a little volume back where they need it. So that's a real, a real fact. And a lot of people, a lot of brides before their wedding day want to get into that dress so they they get on to things like osempic, and there's nothing wrong with that, but it will make some other changes. I've seen people's butts kind of shrink away because they get what's called osempic butt. They'll lose some body in their butt, and now their butt sags, they're not happy about that. So we've got ways to treat that, but we want to treat it in advance to get them tuned up so they can get down to where they want to to fit in that dress, but we can also make sure that they look good in that dress or in their swimsuit on their honeymoon, you know, those types of things. You want to think about all those uh times of that event because there's a lot going on there.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, the honeymoon. I didn't even think about that.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, everyone wants abs on their honeymoon. Yeah, the guys want it, the girls want it. They want at least one of them to have abs, right? So we've got devices that actually tone and tighten your abs. We've got, you know, I do high death lipo. Um, that's a way to really sculpt and show off the work that you've been doing, you know, the sips and squats and everything you do. We can show it off. Um, so you can really get and maintain abs those ways with with obviously all the work that people do, diet exercise, those types of things, but we can accentuate. I've got bodybuilders that come in and we do their abs because they can get almost to the that super refined, but they off-season, you don't see it, right? So you can make it so that they look great off-season and on season.
SPEAKER_02:Bro, shh, you're giving away their secret. They work really hard on those abs.
SPEAKER_00:I'm telling you. It is a beautiful thing. It is a beautiful thing. When you see people that look their best and healthy, you can just see how happy they are and how they glow. And you know, we all have abs. You just can't see them. So it's my job to be able to show them to people.
SPEAKER_04:We all have to do that. Back to the yeah. Everybody w everybody wants abs. Also, I'm really that's that's really cool what you were talking about with like um just sort of helping out the people who have lost a lot of weight and done it dramatically and quickly. And like helping them kind of get back that look that they were going for, obviously, in the first place. Because it it does that's nice because I know uh several people who have talked about changes that happened along the way.
SPEAKER_05:Um I hadn't really thought about someone to get it. I didn't even know that there was anything you could do. Like I had definitely heard about like Ozympic face or Ozympic butt, but I did not even know that there was a way to help that.
SPEAKER_00:That's why he's on here.
SPEAKER_05:I know.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, you bet. You bet. When there's a when there's especially a problem that we see in a lot of people, we all develop techniques to address those problems. And you know, that's why it's really important that you have a good surgeon that's board certified, who's well trained, who's you know, does this every day, isn't just like dabbling in cosmetic surgery, um, and that attends the national meetings, the international meetings. We at those meetings is where the great minds get together and we basically go back and forth and share our ideas and say, hey, I figured out a way to make this better. It really is a bunch of colleagues together trying to make the specialty better, which I love. And so every year that I come back from those meetings and I give and I take, right? So I give advice, I we we solve problems, and I get new techniques and I bring them back to Springfield. So, you know, there's really almost no technique that's out there around the world that's safe that we don't do. So we do everything from high-depth lipo, all different types of facelifts, all different types of body contouring, hair transplants, the latest in breast surgery. You know, we we use Remuvion for skin tightening and tissue tightening, which is uh really the state of the art and definitely the world's best way to tighten your tissue when you do liposuction body contouring. Um, all that's available here in Springfield. So uh it's funny, I've I've met people over the years that have traveled around to try and go and find these great techniques, and they have them all right here. And then a lot of times people go to other places because they they just have to go to LA or they just have to go to Vegas or somewhere to have surgery, and we end up needing to do something to make it better. So um always research your surgeon and their abilities and ask about you know, your friends will know, you know, they'll have a good reputation, and that's the best way to choose, especially because it's before your big day and you don't have a second chance. Make sure you choose the right doctor.
SPEAKER_05:Huge advice. Huge advice. Having the right doctor is everything. Yeah, which I can personally testify to Dr. Shaw's amazing tummy tucks. I think you didn't even know you were gonna get the real life promo, did you?
SPEAKER_00:I love it. I love it. Um, you know, I I I tell you, you know, it's uh it's funny. I've been here a long time in Springfield, and I see people all the time that over the years I've worked on, and it is so nice to just kind of get that positive information that they still look great, they feel great, they're so happy because they made a good decision and they just it's it changed many people's lives. And and that's I feel like Santa Claus. It's like I gave them what they wanted for Christmas. And it's one of the best feelings when they get to see their results. I light up when I see them too, because I get to see their face.
SPEAKER_05:To be able to uh fit in your clothes the way you want to, especially like for the moms out there, like you, you moms and then menopause, it does weird things to everyone's belly area. And uh it's not it's not fun. You know, you're like, that's not what it used to look like. I would like it to look like what it used to look like.
SPEAKER_00:That's that there's not something you can control really. And there's things that uh that we can fix with surgery that you can't fix even with exercise. You know, if the muscles have been uh stretched by pregnancy, um, the only way to put them back together is to actually repair them. And when we repair them, now you've got, you know, you can bounce a quarter off it, you got rock solid abs after that.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:But that is the big transition is having I I think people won't realize how how firm and tight and and toned their abdomen feels, their back feels better because you know a lot of your core is from your your abdomen.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And every you know, they just stand up better, they feel more confident, they they look great. So it's a it sounds like people are sometimes afraid of a tummy tuck. It's one of my most popular procedures. And it makes it's that one thing that they can't fix on their own. They can do all the exercises they want, but it will not fix that problem with the loose connective tissue. So we tighten it. And it's it's like having an internal corset basically, you know, it just snatches everything, and you've got that great waistline. And you know, with high death techniques, we add lipo to it to really refine it so it doesn't just look like a like a flat abdomen, it has to be a sculpted abdomen that has that kind of sensuous shape to it as well.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, it was it was it was impressive. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
SPEAKER_04:All right. So should we talk about like the pre-wedding prep? I know there's like a ton of things. Every time we do um an article, there's like a whole host of things that you guys can do just for face and hair and skin.
SPEAKER_00:Um definitely let's do that. Let's talk about there's some non-invasive things. I mean, everybody knows me as a plastic surgeon, and I love surgery. You know, I operate four days a week, and it's the only reason I only operate four days a week is because you can't operate five days a week because you got to see patients one day a week, right? Because otherwise I would just operate every day. I absolutely love it. Um but there's a lot of things we do that in our clinic that's not happening in the operating room. So while I'm operating it, there's all kinds of great things going on, whether it's uh you know it's all minimally invasive or non-invasive. So things like you know, traditional um toxins and fillers, you know, neurotoxins that help block the recals, fillers, laser procedures, plasma, skin resurfacing, those types of things are ways to tune up without having to go into the operating room. Um, that's an important part of it because not everybody needs surgery, or sometimes you just need that little polish to be ready for that kind of a big day. And that could be the bride, it could be the group, it could be the mother, the father, it could be anyone in the bridal party, because we all, well, we're all gonna be on camera, and we all, you know, psychologists, you've got to look your best for that production. Um, but one of the biggest things that we do is uh a non-invasive method of tightening the skin called softwave. And softwave is is an FTA-proof treatment that actually uses ultrasound energy to stimulate the collagen just about two millimeters underneath the skin. So it's very superficial and it's done without your ear, you don't have to go under anesthesia, there's no bruising, there's literally no downtime to recover. You can literally have it done. It takes about an hour to treat like your face and neck, and then you can go to the gym or you can go in the sun, and you can go to dinner, no one will know you had it done. And it's one of those invisible processes that under the skin, it gradually tightens and gradually tightens. So, like when we did it for me, I saw results within a month, and really you see maximum results within about three months. So it's it's a it's a process of biostimulation, you know, getting your own cells to do the work, and it's it's nobody knows, it's a complete stealth procedure. So it's great for men or women, and it's that's good on almost every part of the body and the face. So you might have a problem area. You may just say, I just want to get my arms done, I want my arms to be a little toned. That's the way to tone the skin of the arms, or maybe part of the abdomen, the upper abdomen seems to be a little wrinkly, you treat that area. So we can fine-tune and just target those areas as a very nice way to do it without having to have any bruising or downtime. Um, the reason I say to think about it ahead of time is it takes a couple months to get your results. So if you did it a week before your wedding, you're not gonna notice the difference until after the wedding. But if you time it a good three months beforehand, that's perfect because then you're you're looking great. You've never had any downtime, it never stopped you from doing all the other things you need to do, getting everything ready. Um, so that's been a tremendous boom. And you'll you'll see it all over social media, it's super popular all over the country because it is amazing. And uh, you know, you'll hear about the Kardashians talking about using it on their whole body, you know, to keep themselves looking good. Um, and it really works for men, women, uh, young and old. So it is one of the biggest booms in our practice because I really find that some people are still afraid of surgery. I don't know what says surgery on my door, you know, when you come in and says it's shy plastic surgery, but we do a lot more besides surgery.
SPEAKER_02:So uh how long does something like that stay? Like, does that last a long time? Do you need to come back in? Is there maintenance?
SPEAKER_00:Great question. Great question. So typically, um, it you you you'll likely have results that last about two years, but we recommend once a year to get another treatment. So, like, especially for the face and neck, because that seems to be the type of skin and collagen that keeps restretching because we we move our mouth, we move our face, we do that so much, uh, and gravity's pulling on our neck all the time that in order to maintain, it's always good to think about about every year or two to treat it. Uh, arms uh may be the same way, but other areas can last for years. And you just kind of watch it if you go, oh, I'm starting to notice because we are aging. Um, you know, one of the famous stem cell doctors was describes our us as we are all decaying, right? It sounds terrible, but we are our bodies are breaking down. And so, unless we stimulate that collagen, it's always less each year. So, of course, it looks great and then it starts to fade because it still keeps breaking down. So, what you gotta do is stimulate those cells to build them back up again. So that's how I think about it as is um, you know, my car, I have to, you know, I have to keep it waxed and I have to keep it looking good. If there's a little ding or dent, I get it get it done so that it looks good for years. It's not self-repairing. So our skin is starts slowing down its repair process. So now at least we have devices that we can do it without any downtime. You know, I do a lot of laser treatments and other where it takes you know a week or two to look good again. You know, you look terrible for a week and then you look great. But with this, you never look bad. You it's completely under the radar, and that's a beauty of this device.
SPEAKER_04:Tell it say it again. What was it called?
SPEAKER_00:It's called Soft Wave, and uh it is FDA approved and it works incredibly well. Um, really, I think all the best plastic surgery practices have it, and uh, especially East Coast and West Coast, is where it kind of really got its its momentum. And uh, you know, once Hollywood got a hold of it, everybody learned about it. It was a secret for a while, but it works tremendously well.
SPEAKER_02:I'm glad you said you used it because when you said at the beginning you've been doing this for 30 years, I'm like, dude, looks like he's 30. I don't know how he's been doing this for 30 years. It's true. Every time I see you, it's like you just keep getting younger and fitter.
SPEAKER_00:That is funny. Thank you. Thanks for nice. I tell you, you know, um I I I it it sounds funny, but I would say um you want to go to someone who takes care of themselves too, because then they really believe in it. You know, yeah. I think uh it you know, if you went to me and everybody just let in the office let themselves go, you'd be like, well, they don't believe in what they're doing, right? So I think it's important that um, you know, we believe in that same lifestyle of of taking good care of yourself. And and it it helps patients assume that yes, uh, you know, my doctor believes in what what what they're doing.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, absolutely.
SPEAKER_04:All right. So what about like you tell you brought up honeymoon earlier, and I was thinking about like the people that are maybe a little hairier than they like to admit on a daily basis. Sure, sure. Yeah. Um, I know you guys do hair removal. Is that something that like how far in advance? Is that something they can do a couple of months ahead of time?
SPEAKER_00:Sure. So um uh it is a good thing to think about how do you look in a swimsuit, right? Because we think about the bridal, everybody's about the dress and the tux, you know, or the suit, right? But then there's the honeymoon and the honeymoon pictures and all that kind of stuff. All you want to look at everything. So when we look at hair removal, hair removal is one of those processes that um it's actually a safe way to damage the hair follicle so it doesn't grow hair. Right now, the hair follicle is part of your skin, it contains that melanin pigment that our skin contains. And if you're light skinned, you don't have a lot of melanin pigment. If you're dark skinned, you have more melanin pigment. So what the laser does is the light gets attracted by that pigment, it heats up, and if you get enough concentrated pigment, like in a hair follicle, it injures the follicle and stops making hair. That's very basic. But also the skin around it can absorb pigment. So we always want to be super careful to not overheat the rest of the skin. That's why laser herb takes multiple, multiple treatments, because you can't put enough energy in to get the follicle in that one time without hurting the rest. So it's a it's a very you have to do it gently. So you're kind of treating in waves because the hair grows in like crops that come up in different cycles. And so we want to hit that when it's growing, when it's got the most pigment in it, it's the most uh susceptible. So that's why we do it about you know every four to six weeks, you'll come in and get a treatment. But if you have dark skin, it may take six treatments because we want to gently do it without hurting the surrounding skin pigment. Um so that's why laser removal is not one of those, like you just zap it and you're done. Um, but if you're treating it ahead of time, like I said, if you start it a year beforehand, you should be good on cycle for your for your um for your wedding and your honeymoon. Um, and if there is a little bit of hair, it's minimal, so it's not a big deal. But um, always start early with that because it is not one of those instant, you know, sci-fi. You walk in a thing, it zaps you, and all of a sudden you're hairless. It doesn't work like that. Um not yet. Give it give us a couple more years, maybe, you know.
SPEAKER_04:They're doing it in Hollywood.
SPEAKER_00:But it's because of the safety of it. It's it's all because of the our skin has that same pigment right next to the hair follicle. You don't want to injure the color of your skin while you're doing it. So um, but it does take multiple treatments. And um, you know, uh the the nice thing is the newer lasers work a lot faster because again, I'm in just a long time, so the old laser used to be like zap, zap, zap, very slow. The new one sounds like a machine gun and just zap you know it's done very fast. So it's you know, that technology's gotten way better and way safer. They got better with the laser energies, you know, with the more computer controlling of the way the energy is delivered so that it is just enough to get the follicle and not enough to hurt the skin.
SPEAKER_04:Okay, what about the flip side? We want to grow more hair.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, so um, you know, I I'm also a hair transplant surgeon. I've been doing that for about uh 28 years, and um that's come a long way. Okay, so back in the old days, we used to actually do a hair transplant procedure where we would take a strip of scalp from the back of the head. You know, you've seen people that have that line in the back of their head, that scar. Uh, because the only way you can get the hair out, then we would, under the microscope, like little sushi chefs, cut little individual follicles out and then make a little tiny insertion scission and put those in. And it took a long time, but it worked really well. It's just then you had that scar in the back of the head, and we really didn't like that scar, but there's another way to do it. Well, over the last many years, probably 10, 15 years, uh FUE came up. It's called follicular unit extraction. It's a way to remove the follicles from the back of the head, just one follicle at a time, so you don't you don't create any scar like that. And so you're it's almost like plucking out each individual follicle and then you put it where you want it. So it's like if you if you wanted a you got a full uh lawn in the back of your yard and your front yard had little patches of of bareness. If you took each individual uh blade of grass out of the back and then put it into the front, you'd be able to do that. Um, and it you can't tell that it's that it's been done. It's literally imperceptible. Um, I've had hair transplants at our clinic and it's it's it's fantastic. Um so the the key to it is is that it's done safely, it's done under local anesthesia, and it's done by uh technicians, our technicians have 25 years of experience. So it's a very uh like highly specialized field, and the results are great. Now the results are not instant because once you place a follicle, it takes up to a year to get the full growth of all those follicles. So we may transplant you know 2,000 or 3,000 follicles at the same time. And each of those follicle units has two or three hairs, so you can get five or six thousand hairs in a single session, but it takes about a year for it to grow. So definitely, I'm telling you, male pattern of altus, females have a pattern of bolus as well. So often, you know, it could be the mother or the bride that has that. You know, women lose hair differently. They get that the the middle of their part starts to get wider and wider and wider. And so you can see through it, and uh that's when you really can see that pattern. But it's treatable because they usually have good hair in the donor area, and we place that, and you've cured them of that problem. So lots of happy people running around with with really good quality hair transplants.
SPEAKER_04:Huh. You lost me somewhere in the political terminology of it. I'm a little squeamish, and I was like, I don't think I can work there.
SPEAKER_02:The old school is the old school way.
SPEAKER_00:The old school way, I was like, Yeah, so the yeah, the old school way was was like a real big up, not a big, but it was an operation.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And it had, you know, stitches and recovery and all that kind of stuff. And but it was it was the only way we could do it back then. Yeah. But with techno, it was really all about technology and innovation to come up with this way to harvest almost without any trauma to the scalp. So we're literally in there just sneaking in and just you know, the the the size of that little tiny punch is less than a millimeter in size. So it's like this little tiny um, and it's all nut, so you don't feel anything, but literally extracts each little one, like sucks it out of there, and then we place it by hand. Uh, and there's a part form to that as well. Yeah. That's nuts. And um, what's nice about it is that's that's the way to really replace missing hair. Now, let's say your hair is just thinning, we have all kinds of things. There's there's supplements you can do that block the process that that reduce the inflammation in the scalp, there's laser treatments, and there's also um you know platelet-rich plasma using growth factors harvested from your own blood. So we take a little bit of blood, we harvest it and inject it, it's a little injection session, uh, to put those growth factors in the areas that are really starving of growth factors and need stimulation. Um, so you know, we I mentioned biostimulation before. We can use it in the hair, we can use it all over the body for collagen, but we're trying to get your own cells to do the job they're supposed to be doing and kind of reverse some of that process. And so that can be done without doing the hair transplant procedure if you still have hair there. Like you can't rise the dead with this these procedures, but if you have, you know, notice your hairs are getting thinner, like little baby hairs, if you catch them, you can convert them back to the big, thick, healthy hair that they used to be by reversing that process using laser therapy. In using these injections. We have a new product that we use that uh I was at a uh plastic surgery conference and learned that the Mayo Clinic had this startup that they created this platelet-rich plasma uh exosomes, which are the little growth factors, and they made them shelf stable so you can actually use them and you don't have to come in and have the blood draw and have it injected in your scalp. They actually have it in a vial now. And so you can basically it's becomes a little medical eyedropper, and you put it on your scalp, and within 30 minutes, it soaks into your scalp, no needles, and you just treat it once a day, and it's tremendous. And that what it does is it gets those super high concentrated growth factors directly into your scalp where you need it. So it's good for scalp health, it's good for uh even things like dandruff or other inflammation, but it's really good for hair growth in men and women. And I've never seen a side effect with it. So it is it's it's biologically compatible with us, and it's basically a boost of our own types of growth factors, but you don't have to have the blood draw for it or the injections.
SPEAKER_02:So what I'm hearing is Here we go. I can get bangs.
SPEAKER_04:You look really good with bangs, Adam.
SPEAKER_00:That's what I'm hearing.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah. You can.
SPEAKER_00:You can. So and remember that if we if we do a hair transplant, that's permanent hair. So that's harvested from the back of the head where people never go bald in the back of their head. Okay, you could be a hundred years old and you'll see a guy with a little fringe of hair back there. Yeah. We're harvesting from that perfect zone, that protected zone. Wherever we put it on the head, it will grow forever. So when you do uh like a frontal hairline replacement, that hair is yours for life now. So it's it's it's a brilliant concept. And one they figured that out you know years and years ago in the 70s. It works so well. And now we've just refined the technique.
SPEAKER_04:So I didn't mean to get in the weeds on the hair, but I do have another question.
SPEAKER_02:I mean, really, it's a it's a big thing for everyone, male and female.
SPEAKER_05:I mean, we're we're talking with a bald man.
SPEAKER_02:Like I love half my hair.
SPEAKER_05:At what age?
SPEAKER_02:20 something.
SPEAKER_04:It's crazy. So for women that have thinning hair, I have friends who have thinning hair. That it's that's a real thing for them. It bothers them a lot. And you talked about like the if they still have hair, is that something that women can do too? Or is that different?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, so so they use the they use those platelet x exosomes. They use laser therapy. There's basically uh, you know, there's you can see now they used to be only sold in doctor's offices, but now you can pretty much buy them anywhere online. But you know, red light and laser caps, they they really work. Um, and you wear it every day, you know, for usually most of these are between six minutes and thirty minutes a day. So you just put it on the morning while you're getting up and getting your cup of coffee. It beeps when it's done, it's a little battery-powered cap, and it it puts that red light or laser red light into the scalp lens of follicles and stimulates the growth cycle of the scalp. Um, it's so it's very expensive, they're easy to use. I will tell you that the laser ones work better than the red light ones, but they're about five times more powerful. Uh, and so if you really want to get some results by that one, it's an actual laser. Um, but that is combined with some supplements that that will be used, neutrophile supplements because they're designed for men or for women. They're separate formulas to block kind of that testosterone that's floating around the bloodstream, causing the bulbs. Um, those kind of things are incredibly helpful together. But once we started using these plated exosomes, these plates derived exosomes, we're seeing even better improvements. And what's nice is uh that formula it works for men or women, so it's been fantastic. Um, and we also have a plated uh selection that's used on the face as well. They have a little different formalization of growth factors, and what that's done is it's used to help with everything from fine lines and wrinkles and skin quality, skin texture, pore size, those types of things, but doing it using your own biology instead of using chemicals.
SPEAKER_02:Okay, you know, I wondered how this podcast was gonna go just because we know Dr. Shaw. And if you can't tell by now, he's a pretty big deal, like out way outside of just this springfield Midwest area. Um 30 minutes so far, and wow. Mine melted. Like there's so many things, like your expertise, you can tell, is just so, so deep.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Thanks. We covered a lot. Uh, you know, everybody is interested in something different. And so what I like is we're able to take care of everybody. You know, there's some people that all they do is noses, and that's great. But if you need something else, you have to go to four different doctors. Yeah. And um remember that that I specialized over these years in each one of these categories. So I'm not a board-certified facial plastic surgeon, but I'm also a board-certified plastic surgeon. So I can do all the facial plastic surgery that I've been doing for 25, 30 years. And I do all the plastic surgery of the body and and uh that I've been doing for now 20 years. So um it's nice to have those different levels of training and expertise over those many years because I'm very confident and comfortable in all those parts because I have so much experience in each of those. And each of those has, you know, this unique things that are just getting better and better. And that's what keeps me excited about this is that, you know, right now, some of the newer facelift techniques that we're doing, spectacular. My results have always been good. They're better than ever. You know, some of the new body contour results, combining energies together, the newer ultrasound devices for doing uh body sculpting. Fantastic. And I'm I think I'm the we we're using the new uh Aeon system. Um, and that is basically uh a method of combining an ultrasound um assisted liposuction procedure with the the helium plasma energy for tightening the skin all in one process. And when we do that, uh we get even better body control results. I think we're now maybe the seventh in the world to get that uh device. So we're an investor for that company. We're gonna teach other physicians how to use that technology because it's very powerful and we've got to make sure that they're educated in the proper ways to use this to get the best results. So there's a lot of uh national and international interest, and we're gonna be having doctors come into Springfield to our practice to learn and train as well.
SPEAKER_05:That's incredible. Well, and just to speak to your expertise, you know, I used to years ago work in the hospital, and so I always feel like the people who know what's going on with doctors and in the medical field are the people who are in the ORs. Um, and whenever uh I was looking for a doctor to do my tummy tuck, who told me, I don't even know if you know this, who told me to use you was a uh nurse anethicist. And she was like, she's like, there is only one doctor um in this town that I would allow to touch my mother. And she's like, and that's Dr. Shaw. And she's like, and he did. He did he did a tummy tuck on her and it was amazing. She's like, you've got to consult with him. So it does not surprise me that you are educating other physicians and teaching, because I feel like when you have someone in the OR who speaks to your expertise, they know the techniques you're using during surgery, they know how sterile everything is, how um just how incredibly careful and thoughtful you are during surgery.
SPEAKER_02:Well, in comparison to seeing other surgeons as well. So when you can see it on the curve, yeah, that's how you can really.
SPEAKER_05:I mean, I feel like that's one of the best recommendations you can get is someone who actually stands and watches you do surgery.
SPEAKER_00:So exactly. You know, that is very true because they're they see everything. Yep, and they can see who has um even how much people care, you know, you can tell.
SPEAKER_03:Yep.
SPEAKER_00:Um, and uh, you know, that that brings me to one thing I always like to talk about is our surgery facility at our clinic. It's spectacular, and I am very proud of it. You know, um, I've you know working in major hospital systems for years, you know, chairman of the department, chairman of the board, you know, ran everything. And it's so nice to have a facility that I have complete oversight and control over so I can control the quality, I can control every aspect of it. Everyone who works with me, that's all they do is plastic surgery. From every nurse, medical assistant, tech uh anesthesia provider, they only do my plastic surgery cases. So having come from an environment where you just get whoever you get that day, right? As okay, here's your nurse or here's your, and maybe they've seen uh tummy talk, maybe they haven't. Uh we're so specialized that that's that's all we do. And it's so nice having that if you have the A team, literally, and and everybody is on it. Everybody knows every part of what they do. They can they're very knowledgeable to help educate the patients because they know what they're talking about, and that's all we do, and it's private. So when patients come in, you know, typically you go to a surgery center, maybe you uh you have to go out and ask the nurse to come and bring you something because you know they they haven't seen the nurse in 30 minutes or 60 minutes. Um, because they have one nurse for six patients.
unknown:Yes.
SPEAKER_00:Uh with us, you have three nurses for you.
SPEAKER_02:Wow.
SPEAKER_00:So it's it's it's really it's even better than being in first class at uh you know uh on a flight because you have your own people attending to you.
SPEAKER_05:I was gonna say it's it's almost it's a kind of a luxury experience.
SPEAKER_00:It it really is, and that's that's something I wanted to build when I left uh uh healthcare system and wanted to start my own, is I want to make it better in every way. And that's that's down to every detail, including the the perioperative experience. You know, when you come in, I don't want people to be afraid. I want them to see how beautiful and clean it is, how how everything is. I mean, it I think your your business should look like a model home. It should be just beautiful every day because you've you've taken such attention to detail, and the patients pick up on it and they just break, they can feel it. And they can see it with the professionalism by staff, the care that they give them, and it's super efficient, and they come in, they have their surgery, they recover for about an hour and they're out when you have the best anesthesia. Everything's top shelf. And and that's something that you just you can't find in this part of the country as much because it's if a big hospital does it, they do it by you know cost cutting and what's the cheapest thing we can use on you, and how do we you know I think it's important to just go with the top quality for every part of the procedure, and that includes anesthesia, medications, everything we use is is the best. And that's the only way I would do it. And because it's my place, I could do it how I want, and so I can give people the quality that I think they're they're really looking for.
SPEAKER_04:We appreciate it. It's just like a masterclass.
SPEAKER_00:Well, I don't want to go off topic. I want to make sure that we're gonna be able to do that.
SPEAKER_02:Oh no, you're you're great. I I mean, it's like I I think for a lot of people, I can speak for myself. I've never had anything done ever, you know. So uh in a a plastic surgery office, a doctor, anything like that, it can be intimidating, you know. I I don't know what to expect, you know. I'm a little fearful of this, or what is this gonna be like? And to actually have you sit and talk through all of these different things to kind of explain everything. I mean, this is like an invaluable doctor's appointment for somebody who has no idea. It's huge.
SPEAKER_00:So I'm bad. I think I think it's important if you got to find someone who's really passionate about it. I mean, I love what I do. So, you know how you can kind of tell someone just punches in and punches out, right? You don't want that. You want someone who is so excited about what they because I when I see people, I can see I already know what our results are gonna be. I can see it. And so I'm excited to be able to kind of get a hold of them and give them what they're asking for because I already know what the result is gonna look like. That's the exciting thing for me. And I want to take them along that journey. I can't wait to see them unwrap the package, you know, and see that look on their face when they see the results. So it's really fun when I meet them for consultation. I'm already, you know, my brain is already churning, figuring out exactly how I'm gonna get to where we want to get to, but I can already see where it's gonna be, whether it's a rhinoplasty or it's a breast lift or breast augmentation, tummy tuck, or someone who's lost a hundred pounds with a uh posempic and they've got a lot of saggy skin, and I'm gonna give them that fantastic shape that they really wanted, and they didn't get it from their weight loss because now they have too much skin, right? And all of a sudden they get what they wanted, and you can just see them glowing, the look in their face. So that's you want to get that from any doctor. I even even if someone's taking care of your blood pressure, you hope that that's all they care about is blood pressure, right? You gotta find people, find people who are like that, that that's their thing, and that they still love it, even after all these years. That's that's uh it's a rare thing to find when you find one, hang out of them.
SPEAKER_04:Okay, so back the non-start, we did get a little off track, and I love it that we did, because we we really went down a great road, and I think it's a road testing, you know. I'm gonna get us back on the paper. Um so what are some of the things for like a a couple or someone who's maybe maybe we're getting to them and they're already past a year mark and we're at like eight minutes after let's talk to them about some of the things that we can do. Let's let's do let's start at like six months. What are some of the non-surgical six month procedures that you would recommend for a couple?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I I think almost everybody could benefit from, unless they're like already super fit, uh, getting some abdominal tone and tightening. So we have a device called the body tone. It's like uh a device that we hook up these little uh electrode pads on your abdomen, for example. And in a 30-minute session, it'll do the equivalent of 30,000 crunches without you having to do anything.
SPEAKER_03:Oh that's pretty cool.
SPEAKER_00:So so yeah, so basically you do you do two sessions a week for three weeks, so it's only six sessions, and it will improve the the size of your abdominal muscles by up to 20%. So if you think about it, the reason you can see abs is either you have less fat or you have more muscle, you know, it's more shape. And if you're losing weight and you're also building your muscle, you can build it faster than you can with any kind of abdominal exercise. Now you can still do all your ab exercises at the same time, it's not really a substitute, but it will boost your abs and tighten things up. So let's say you just want to have it see a better abdominal tone so that your tummy looks flatter, you zap back. Or let's say you want to get a little bigger booty, but you don't want to have fat grafting or other things, you treat your gluteus muscles. We can do that too. And what that does is it'll increase the size of your gluteus muscles by 20%. Well, that's like getting a butt lift without surgery.
SPEAKER_05:Adam's very excited about the possibility.
SPEAKER_00:I've got old man butts. Well, I'm saying guys could really use it too, because it it, you know, guys get more of that, it'll create more of that like soccer player butt, you know, that they want to have. They look athletic. And um uh, you know, you can spend a lot of time doing squats and we want you to, but this will help build faster. Um, and so that's an easy thing. It's no downtime. You literally can do it and go out and do everything else. It's a you know 30-minute uh session, very simple. It's called body tone. A lot of people combine that with those software improvements, and maybe they have some laxity of their skin. You can get them both done the same day if you want to. So those are things that are no downtime. And of course, you know, everybody wants to look the best in photos, so they want their face to look their best. If you're at least two months before, definitely things like Botox, fillers, especially sculpture, those kind of things help. Anything that will build collagen and give you that just a little bit of some, you know, a lot of people just need a little chin, a little jawline refinement. So the guy looks better with a better, stronger jawline. But a lot of women have a kind of a little short chin. If you balance it out, it just makes their neck look more elegant because you give them that that nice positive and negative right there, and it gives a beautiful shape to the neck without surgery. And that's in the middle, you walk out looking better. Um, what I always tell people is don't wait till you know two weeks before or a day before your big event because any injection can cause a bruise. No matter how good anyone is, you could get a bruise, and don't forget to get a bruise the day before your wedding, right? You don't want that. So always give yourself you know a couple weeks beforehand so that if you were to get any bruising, it's faded and gone by then. Um just you know, planning really matters, timing matters, but that's kind of the last minute things, and then right before, definitely come in for a hydrofacial thing to get your skin to glow and just get that you know that beautiful look to it because of course you're worn out, you're dehydrated, you've been rushing and planning, and you know, some relative didn't show up on time and someone's picked them up from the airport, and it's always you. So this way, treat yourself, treat yourself, treat your mom, treat your treat your get get everybody looking their best right beforehand, and that's what those uh types of treatments are for. Uh, we do a uh treatment called skin veave. It's a little subcutaneous injection of a dilute hyaluronic acid uh filler that holds water. So what it does is it pumps your skin and gives you some instant hydration. You can do that a couple weeks beforehand, and it lasts for a couple months, so it'll give you that beautiful glow without anyone knowing how you got that good.
SPEAKER_04:I actually some of these things might be fun as like a gift to I know people are always trying to figure out what would be a good gift for bridesmaids that isn't just green out of cliché.
SPEAKER_00:Maybe people should start re registering at their plastic surgery or medical spot, right? I think that'd be really good. So that's a great way to do it. I think it's a great idea.
SPEAKER_05:That's super cool.
SPEAKER_02:I really do think that's a good idea. Because I mean, you've sit in I mean, even in this short period, you've rattled off so many different options to where I mean you could totally do a registry of some kind. Yeah, totally could.
SPEAKER_00:And you know, it's never saying like, well, you need your nose done before your wedding. That's not what I'm saying. Yeah. What I'm saying is that if someone says, I want to get my skin tuned up, I want to get um, I want to get my my, you know, give him abs for his uh bachelor party gift, you know. Uh, you know, like uh things like that to say, hey, I want you know, want them to be happy and do their thing beforehand, you just come in and get your treatment and you are ready. Uh so that's fun because you're gonna show off those photos for years. For your grandkids are gonna look at those photos. And so uh it's it's just you know, that's there's only your one chance to get that that uh perfect shot, right? So um I think that is a good part of the planning. I mean, I think people still spend way more on their other bridal things than they do themselves, and um, they could think about investing in themselves because after the wedding, they still got their their good looking face, their good looking body, they can still enjoy it.
SPEAKER_05:That's awesome. Good point.
SPEAKER_04:Good job. Good job. Well, I would just like to thank you for all of your like all the time that you take for educating yourself and bringing new products and stuff to our area. I think that people have no idea how much time and effort and like travel that you spend and money and just you know going and finding these new things all the time. I'm hearing you guys say things like you just said earlier, where there's only this many surgeons that do this in the US or in our area, and you're always one of them. So I really appreciate the effort that you put into making sure that we've got the top-notch new stuff around.
SPEAKER_05:Um yeah, that we don't have to leave and go to Las Vegas or LA because it's already here. Yep.
SPEAKER_00:I I really challenge people to find something that we don't already do as well as they do. And and I I know they are uh you know bigger on hype than other places and they really market better and they let people you know, kind of make it sound like the only place you're gonna get this is in Dallas or LA or Chicago or New York. But uh it's pretty tough to find something that they have that we don't already perform regularly here with great results.
SPEAKER_05:And are actually teaching some of those other doctors how to do it.
SPEAKER_00:If somebody comes up with something they want that I don't do, I'm happy to tell them. I'm a very honest person. If it's something that I think someone else does better than I do, I'll refer you to them because there are a couple of specialized things that someone might need that um there may only be two or three people in the country that I would trust them to go to, and I'm happy to get them their cursed.
SPEAKER_04:Nice.
SPEAKER_02:That's awesome. And I can speak for people who are intimidated by a plastic surgery office. Like I I go in there with my wife and and pick things up and do things, and I can tell you as soon as you walk in, everybody there is always so bright and happy and nice as soon as you walk in. So it if you have any of that like uncomfortable like hesitation, it's like your staff does such a great job of just putting everybody at ease as soon as they walk in. I have to say that.
SPEAKER_05:Oh, Rich and really proud of him.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah. It's not one of those places that you walk in and feel uncomfortable and or intimidated. You just feel like you're walking in talking to your friends.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, absolutely.
SPEAKER_00:We love it because we know when you come in, you're gonna get what you want and you're gonna be happy. And that's what it's about making people happy. Um, whenever I do a consultation, the question I'm asking my mind is do I have the abilities or the procedures or the treatments that will make them happy? Because you're you you you can have a great result, but you want the patient to love it too. Like I could love it, but I want you to love it. It's yours.
SPEAKER_04:Well, I know that our timeline with you is coming to an end because you've got places to be and things to do. Thank you for spending so much time with us, though. Yeah, absolutely. We really appreciate it. It was fun.
SPEAKER_00:It was really, really great. And um, I hope I I was able to give you the um the information that you want to learn about and and really motivate people to know that it's it's it's a it's an important step if they decide to especially have plastic surgery. But we take it very seriously, and I'll make sure we go through everything that you need to go through well in advance so that you know exactly what to expect, because I think that's a big part of it. That takes the fear out of it. If you know about it, you're not afraid of it. There's not that that that wonder or what's going to happen. We'll we'll walk you through every step. And uh that's how we get those great results in it. Next time we do something like this, I'll tell you all about the special protocols I have for recovery that I've got people all over all over Europe wanting me to come and lecture them on how to get my patients to recover so quickly. Um it's a whole nother process that we have that we'll we'll do maybe at another setting. Yeah, but there's all these advancements that are available that I think I think some doctors just don't get it. So I I I want patients to benefit from all this work we put in for it because it really pays off when you see your results and you recover quickly. And I'm very competitive. I want to beat every doctor and their results and their recovery and their patient experience. And so uh if if I'm winning, you're winning.
SPEAKER_05:I I love a competitive doctor, that's what you want. Yeah, I want one that wants to be the best. That's amazing. Well, we need to get our people with your people, and we'll set up that next podcast.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Sounds great. Yeah, it sounds great.
SPEAKER_04:Before you go, okay. So it sounds like if somebody just wants they have a tiny small change all the way to something brand new on their self, how do they get a hold of you for a consultation?
SPEAKER_00:Uh, the best way just to call us, uh, it's uh 742-SHA-S-H-A-H, so it's easy to remember. And um we're ready to get you in for consultations. I have a couple different methods, and we even do virtual consultations um to help with the timing. So patients don't have to wait as long, you know, to get in to see me. We can get the process started ahead of time doing virtual evening consultations. I really try to do everything I can to accommodate. I know everybody's got busy schedules, and sometimes that's the best way to get started. It's also not very intimidating, right? Because uh it's a nice way to just chat. Uh kind of we have a book and secure FaceTime type uh app. Super nice. And uh that gets people going, they can learn about it, and then when they're ready, I'm ready.
SPEAKER_04:Awesome. And what's your website?
SPEAKER_00:Uh ShawClassicSurgery.com. Um, and uh you can contact us that way for a consultation, or you can call us uh or you can see us uh on Instagram anywhere you want to reach us.
unknown:Perfect.
SPEAKER_04:Love it.
SPEAKER_00:This has been awesome.
SPEAKER_04:Adam's got like a bullet list over there.
SPEAKER_02:I do. You know, and if anybody takes anything away from this, especially like our audience, is it's not just boob jobs and nose jobs. Right. There's so much that can be done.
SPEAKER_05:And and for guys and girls. Yeah. You know, it's not it's not just all lit going to yeah, I I saw you lighten up over there over the whole hair stuff.
SPEAKER_00:And don't forget mom and dad, because they want to look their best, but this is a big day for them as well.
SPEAKER_05:Uh yeah, it is. And yeah, Meg and I can attest to. So yeah, it's it's huge. So I I think that the parents it it does feel like probably one of the more important days in your life, too, when your child gets married. So you're gonna be in a lot of photos. You're gonna be in a lot of photos.
SPEAKER_04:Maybe 22 days.
SPEAKER_00:Thanks guys. I love it. And uh yeah, anytime you have any questions, um I'm gonna end.
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