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Great."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3028.92,"endTime":3031.47,"body":"Well, that sounds exciting."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3032.34,"endTime":3035.64,"body":"Again, Scott, thank you so much."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3032.34,"endTime":3035.64,"body":"Is there anything else that that"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3035.64,"endTime":3038.0099999999998,"body":"you think we should cover that"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3035.64,"endTime":3038.0099999999998,"body":"we haven't talked about yet?"},{"speaker":"Scott Summit","startTime":3038.4,"endTime":3040.83,"body":"Now I'm just"},{"speaker":"Scott Summit","startTime":3038.4,"endTime":3040.83,"body":"especially appreciative that you"},{"speaker":"Scott Summit","startTime":3040.83,"endTime":3046.62,"body":"are doing a show, speaking to"},{"speaker":"Scott Summit","startTime":3040.83,"endTime":3046.62,"body":"engineers in particular, but"},{"speaker":"Scott Summit","startTime":3046.65,"endTime":3049.2599999999998,"body":"from the vantage occasionally of"},{"speaker":"Scott Summit","startTime":3046.65,"endTime":3049.2599999999998,"body":"an industrial designer, or"},{"speaker":"Scott Summit","startTime":3049.2599999999998,"endTime":3053.52,"body":"somebody who's a little bit out"},{"speaker":"Scott Summit","startTime":3049.2599999999998,"endTime":3053.52,"body":"of the the immediate world of"},{"speaker":"Scott Summit","startTime":3053.52,"endTime":3057.39,"body":"engineering, but certainly"},{"speaker":"Scott Summit","startTime":3053.52,"endTime":3057.39,"body":"connected to it at the hip."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3057.49,"endTime":3059.83,"body":"Well, thank you."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3057.49,"endTime":3059.83,"body":"Thank you. Yeah, we're all part"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3059.83,"endTime":3062.74,"body":"of the same big happy family,"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3059.83,"endTime":3062.74,"body":"aren't we?"},{"speaker":"Scott Summit","startTime":3063.0099999999998,"endTime":3063.37,"body":"Indeed!"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3064.12,"endTime":3065.65,"body":"All right. Well,"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3064.12,"endTime":3065.65,"body":"thank you so much, Scott.."},{"speaker":"Scott Summit","startTime":3066.5499999999997,"endTime":3067.9,"body":"Thanks, Aaron."},{"speaker":"Scott Summit","startTime":3066.5499999999997,"endTime":3067.9,"body":"It's great talking to you."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3071.67,"endTime":3075.15,"body":"I'm Aaron Moncur,"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3071.67,"endTime":3075.15,"body":"founder of pipeline design and"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3075.15,"endTime":3078.15,"body":"engineering. 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