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So much again, I sure"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2143.42,"endTime":2146.06,"body":"appreciate you being on the show"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2146.06,"endTime":2147.56,"body":"and sharing all this wisdom with"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2146.06,"endTime":2147.56,"body":"us."},{"speaker":"Daniel Campbell","startTime":2147.7400000000002,"endTime":2148.88,"body":"Thanks for"},{"speaker":"Daniel Campbell","startTime":2147.7400000000002,"endTime":2148.88,"body":"having me. It's been fun."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2152.86,"endTime":2156.34,"body":"I'm Aaron Moncur,"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2152.86,"endTime":2156.34,"body":"founder of pipeline design and"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2156.34,"endTime":2159.34,"body":"engineering. 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