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Watch for"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":1843.1200000000001,"endTime":1845.43,"body":"joining me today. I sure"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":1845.43,"endTime":1849.69,"body":"appreciate it. What a great"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":1845.43,"endTime":1849.69,"body":"conversation this has been. How"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":1849.69,"endTime":1851.16,"body":"can people get in touch with"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":1849.69,"endTime":1851.16,"body":"you?"},{"speaker":"Derek Recker","startTime":1850.69,"endTime":1853.5700000000002,"body":"Yeah, I'd say the"},{"speaker":"Derek Recker","startTime":1850.69,"endTime":1853.5700000000002,"body":"best way is probably just"},{"speaker":"Derek Recker","startTime":1853.5700000000002,"endTime":1858.5800000000002,"body":"through my LinkedIn. So you can"},{"speaker":"Derek Recker","startTime":1853.5700000000002,"endTime":1858.5800000000002,"body":"google Derek Recker on LinkedIn"},{"speaker":"Derek Recker","startTime":1858.5800000000002,"endTime":1862.78,"body":"and find me. Perfect. Derek,"},{"speaker":"Derek Recker","startTime":1858.5800000000002,"endTime":1862.78,"body":"thank you again so much. Yeah,"},{"speaker":"Derek Recker","startTime":1862.81,"endTime":1863.74,"body":"absolutely. Thanks."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":1867.8200000000002,"endTime":1871.27,"body":"I'm Aaron Moncur,"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":1867.8200000000002,"endTime":1871.27,"body":"founder of pipeline design and"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":1871.27,"endTime":1874.3,"body":"engineering. If you liked what"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":1871.27,"endTime":1874.3,"body":"you heard today, please share"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":1874.3,"endTime":1877.81,"body":"the episode. 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