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So because"},{"speaker":"Drew Devitt","startTime":3116.46,"endTime":3119.82,"body":"a lot of the electronics"},{"speaker":"Drew Devitt","startTime":3116.46,"endTime":3119.82,"body":"industry requires vacuum"},{"speaker":"Drew Devitt","startTime":3119.82,"endTime":3124.14,"body":"deposition processes, we can"},{"speaker":"Drew Devitt","startTime":3119.82,"endTime":3124.14,"body":"even get the song in and out of"},{"speaker":"Drew Devitt","startTime":3124.14,"endTime":3129.09,"body":"vacuum chambers, using the air"},{"speaker":"Drew Devitt","startTime":3124.14,"endTime":3129.09,"body":"bearing seal just like that"},{"speaker":"Drew Devitt","startTime":3129.09,"endTime":3132.06,"body":"vacuum pre loaded bearing that"},{"speaker":"Drew Devitt","startTime":3129.09,"endTime":3132.06,"body":"you saw, you know how we were"},{"speaker":"Drew Devitt","startTime":3132.06,"endTime":3135.2999999999997,"body":"controlling the vacuum with the"},{"speaker":"Drew Devitt","startTime":3132.06,"endTime":3135.2999999999997,"body":"air bearing. So we can do that"},{"speaker":"Drew Devitt","startTime":3135.2999999999997,"endTime":3140.64,"body":"even down to molecular slump."},{"speaker":"Drew Devitt","startTime":3135.2999999999997,"endTime":3140.64,"body":"Fascinating. So, Danielle,"},{"speaker":"Drew Devitt","startTime":3140.64,"endTime":3142.2599999999998,"body":"thanks. Let me get some of that"},{"speaker":"Drew Devitt","startTime":3140.64,"endTime":3142.2599999999998,"body":"out."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3142.47,"endTime":3145.74,"body":"Absolutely. Yeah."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3142.47,"endTime":3145.74,"body":"Yeah. Well Drew, how can people"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3145.74,"endTime":3149.46,"body":"learn more about new way and the"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3145.74,"endTime":3149.46,"body":"products that you offer?"},{"speaker":"Drew Devitt","startTime":3150.54,"endTime":3154.59,"body":"Well, the new way"},{"speaker":"Drew Devitt","startTime":3150.54,"endTime":3154.59,"body":"website is probably the best"},{"speaker":"Drew Devitt","startTime":3154.65,"endTime":3160.2,"body":"place to go. If you type in air"},{"speaker":"Drew Devitt","startTime":3154.65,"endTime":3160.2,"body":"bearings on your browser,"},{"speaker":"Drew Devitt","startTime":3160.2,"endTime":3164.34,"body":"probably new way is going to be"},{"speaker":"Drew Devitt","startTime":3160.2,"endTime":3164.34,"body":"the first natural search. So"},{"speaker":"Drew Devitt","startTime":3164.46,"endTime":3167.73,"body":"we're probably not buying the"},{"speaker":"Drew Devitt","startTime":3164.46,"endTime":3167.73,"body":"first spot, but when you go down"},{"speaker":"Drew Devitt","startTime":3167.7599999999998,"endTime":3171.87,"body":"will be the first natural"},{"speaker":"Drew Devitt","startTime":3167.7599999999998,"endTime":3171.87,"body":"search. So the websites a great"},{"speaker":"Drew Devitt","startTime":3171.87,"endTime":3176.34,"body":"place to go. I have a lot of"},{"speaker":"Drew Devitt","startTime":3171.87,"endTime":3176.34,"body":"videos up on YouTube, you can"},{"speaker":"Drew Devitt","startTime":3176.34,"endTime":3182.7,"body":"find that for"},{"speaker":"Drew Devitt","startTime":3176.34,"endTime":3182.7,"body":"true.debit@youtube.com. And my"},{"speaker":"Drew Devitt","startTime":3182.7,"endTime":3188.58,"body":"email would be"},{"speaker":"Drew Devitt","startTime":3182.7,"endTime":3188.58,"body":"Ddevitt@newwayairbearings.com."},{"speaker":"Drew Devitt","startTime":3190.23,"endTime":3190.7999999999997,"body":"Great."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3191.73,"endTime":3193.68,"body":"Well, we'll list"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3191.73,"endTime":3193.68,"body":"all of those in the show notes"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3193.68,"endTime":3196.77,"body":"as well. So it's easy for all of"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3193.68,"endTime":3196.77,"body":"you to click through and find"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3196.77,"endTime":3200.16,"body":"all this information. Drew,"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3196.77,"endTime":3200.16,"body":"thank you again, so much. What a"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3200.43,"endTime":3203.46,"body":"insightful and informative"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3200.43,"endTime":3203.46,"body":"conversation this has been."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3203.46,"endTime":3206.94,"body":"Thank you for spending some time"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3203.46,"endTime":3206.94,"body":"and sharing this technology with"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3206.94,"endTime":3208.08,"body":"all the engineers listening."},{"speaker":"Drew Devitt","startTime":3208.74,"endTime":3211.2,"body":"Well thanks for"},{"speaker":"Drew Devitt","startTime":3208.74,"endTime":3211.2,"body":"your great questions, and the"},{"speaker":"Drew Devitt","startTime":3211.2,"endTime":3212.61,"body":"opportunity to answer them."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3216.66,"endTime":3220.14,"body":"I'm Aaron Moncur,"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3216.66,"endTime":3220.14,"body":"founder of pipeline design and"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3220.14,"endTime":3223.14,"body":"engineering. 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