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So thank you again."},{"speaker":"Roger Labrecque","startTime":3470.7999999999997,"endTime":3472.24,"body":"All right."},{"speaker":"Roger Labrecque","startTime":3470.7999999999997,"endTime":3472.24,"body":"Well, thanks a lot for having"},{"speaker":"Roger Labrecque","startTime":3472.24,"endTime":3475.84,"body":"me, Aaron, and I definitely"},{"speaker":"Roger Labrecque","startTime":3472.24,"endTime":3475.84,"body":"appreciate you inviting me on"},{"speaker":"Roger Labrecque","startTime":3475.84,"endTime":3476.11,"body":"today."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3478.12,"endTime":3481.6,"body":"I'm Aaron Moncur,"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3478.12,"endTime":3481.6,"body":"founder of pipeline design and"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3481.6,"endTime":3484.6,"body":"engineering. If you liked what"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3481.6,"endTime":3484.6,"body":"you heard today, please share"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3484.6,"endTime":3488.14,"body":"the episode. To learn how your"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3484.6,"endTime":3488.14,"body":"team can leverage our team's"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3488.17,"endTime":3491.92,"body":"expertise developing turnkey"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3488.17,"endTime":3491.92,"body":"equipment, custom fixtures and"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3491.95,"endTime":3496.21,"body":"automated machines and with"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3491.95,"endTime":3496.21,"body":"product design, visit us at Team"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3496.24,"endTime":3498.97,"body":"pipeline.us. Thanks for"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3496.24,"endTime":3498.97,"body":"listening"}]}