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So thank you so much"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2875.08,"endTime":2878.98,"body":"for doing that. Anything else"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2878.98,"endTime":2881.44,"body":"that you'd like to share before"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2878.98,"endTime":2881.44,"body":"we wrap things up?"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2882.61,"endTime":2885.25,"body":"No, to stay awesome, everybody."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2882.61,"endTime":2885.25,"body":"Thank you."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2885.67,"endTime":2889.2999999999997,"body":"Good advice. All right. How can"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2885.67,"endTime":2889.2999999999997,"body":"people get in touch with you?"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2890.0499999999997,"endTime":2894.07,"body":"I have a website. It's"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2890.0499999999997,"endTime":2894.07,"body":"IancollmcEachern.com and all my"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2894.07,"endTime":2895.24,"body":"contact information is there."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2895.68,"endTime":2898.5299999999997,"body":"Wonderful. All right. Well, Ian,"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2895.68,"endTime":2898.5299999999997,"body":"thank you so much. Sure."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2898.5299999999997,"endTime":2901.02,"body":"Appreciate your time today. Talk"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2898.5299999999997,"endTime":2901.02,"body":"to you later."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2901.59,"endTime":2902.07,"body":"Thank you."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2905.85,"endTime":2909.99,"body":"I'm Aaron Moncur, founder of"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2905.85,"endTime":2909.99,"body":"pipeline design and engineering."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2910.41,"endTime":2912.99,"body":"If you liked what you heard"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2910.41,"endTime":2912.99,"body":"today, please share the episode."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2913.71,"endTime":2916.59,"body":"To learn how your team can"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2913.71,"endTime":2916.59,"body":"leverage our team's expertise"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2916.59,"endTime":2920.19,"body":"developing turnkey equipment,"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2916.59,"endTime":2920.19,"body":"custom fixtures and automated"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2920.19,"endTime":2923.94,"body":"machines and with product"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2920.19,"endTime":2923.94,"body":"design, visit us at Team"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2923.94,"endTime":2926.73,"body":"pipeline.us. 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