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How can people get in"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2468.04,"endTime":2468.67,"body":"touch with you?"},{"speaker":"Dion Lopes","startTime":2469.46,"endTime":2472.79,"body":"I'm on LinkedIn, my"},{"speaker":"Dion Lopes","startTime":2469.46,"endTime":2472.79,"body":"contact information is on there."},{"speaker":"Dion Lopes","startTime":2472.79,"endTime":2476.12,"body":"So anyone that would like to"},{"speaker":"Dion Lopes","startTime":2472.79,"endTime":2476.12,"body":"reach out, please feel free to"},{"speaker":"Dion Lopes","startTime":2476.66,"endTime":2480.65,"body":"message me on LinkedIn, my"},{"speaker":"Dion Lopes","startTime":2476.66,"endTime":2480.65,"body":"emails there. I look forward to"},{"speaker":"Dion Lopes","startTime":2480.7999999999997,"endTime":2485.18,"body":"reaching out to individuals"},{"speaker":"Dion Lopes","startTime":2480.7999999999997,"endTime":2485.18,"body":"contact me and to continue the"},{"speaker":"Dion Lopes","startTime":2485.18,"endTime":2488.84,"body":"network. I can get guidance and"},{"speaker":"Dion Lopes","startTime":2485.18,"endTime":2488.84,"body":"be able to provide guidance,"},{"speaker":"Dion Lopes","startTime":2488.84,"endTime":2491.12,"body":"right? I can help teach others"},{"speaker":"Dion Lopes","startTime":2488.84,"endTime":2491.12,"body":"but it's also really important"},{"speaker":"Dion Lopes","startTime":2491.12,"endTime":2491.72,"body":"for me to learn."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2492.32,"endTime":2494.2999999999997,"body":"Wonderful. All"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2492.32,"endTime":2494.2999999999997,"body":"right. 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