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I mean,"},{"speaker":"Jad Allam","startTime":2801.2999999999997,"endTime":2806.64,"body":"it's I see my career and my"},{"speaker":"Jad Allam","startTime":2806.67,"endTime":2812.7599999999998,"body":"trajectory so far, as I'm very"},{"speaker":"Jad Allam","startTime":2806.67,"endTime":2812.7599999999998,"body":"fortunate, right to, to have had"},{"speaker":"Jad Allam","startTime":2813.0,"endTime":2816.93,"body":"good leaders. Honestly, I hear a"},{"speaker":"Jad Allam","startTime":2813.0,"endTime":2816.93,"body":"lot about stories where, Oh,"},{"speaker":"Jad Allam","startTime":2817.17,"endTime":2819.66,"body":"somebody's facing challenges"},{"speaker":"Jad Allam","startTime":2817.17,"endTime":2819.66,"body":"with their team leader, right."},{"speaker":"Jad Allam","startTime":2819.66,"endTime":2822.63,"body":"Somebody's facing challenges"},{"speaker":"Jad Allam","startTime":2819.66,"endTime":2822.63,"body":"with what they're doing. But I"},{"speaker":"Jad Allam","startTime":2822.63,"endTime":2825.7799999999997,"body":"enjoyed what I do. And I'm still"},{"speaker":"Jad Allam","startTime":2822.63,"endTime":2825.7799999999997,"body":"challenged. I'm still learning."},{"speaker":"Jad Allam","startTime":2826.56,"endTime":2833.67,"body":"Right? So. Yeah, as you said, we"},{"speaker":"Jad Allam","startTime":2826.56,"endTime":2833.67,"body":"all started as fresh graduate"},{"speaker":"Jad Allam","startTime":2833.7599999999998,"endTime":2839.5499999999997,"body":"engineers not knowing what to"},{"speaker":"Jad Allam","startTime":2833.7599999999998,"endTime":2839.5499999999997,"body":"do. And just ask us questions."},{"speaker":"Jad Allam","startTime":2840.42,"endTime":2844.92,"body":"It's fine to, it's not easy to"},{"speaker":"Jad Allam","startTime":2840.42,"endTime":2844.92,"body":"have that self confidence and to"},{"speaker":"Jad Allam","startTime":2844.92,"endTime":2849.18,"body":"go and ask questions and put"},{"speaker":"Jad Allam","startTime":2844.92,"endTime":2849.18,"body":"yourself out there and a new"},{"speaker":"Jad Allam","startTime":2849.18,"endTime":2852.5099999999998,"body":"job. But that's what I would"},{"speaker":"Jad Allam","startTime":2849.18,"endTime":2852.5099999999998,"body":"always recommend to others."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2853.2599999999998,"endTime":2855.75,"body":"Wonderful,"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2853.2599999999998,"endTime":2855.75,"body":"wonderful. Well, Jad, how can"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2855.75,"endTime":2857.43,"body":"people get in touch with you?"},{"speaker":"Jad Allam","startTime":2858.39,"endTime":2861.15,"body":"The Easiest way is"},{"speaker":"Jad Allam","startTime":2858.39,"endTime":2861.15,"body":"through LinkedIn. just message"},{"speaker":"Jad Allam","startTime":2861.15,"endTime":2865.14,"body":"me or send a notification or so"},{"speaker":"Jad Allam","startTime":2861.15,"endTime":2865.14,"body":"on and I'll get back to you."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2865.36,"endTime":2867.4,"body":"Terrific. All"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2865.36,"endTime":2867.4,"body":"right. Well, thank you so much,"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2867.4,"endTime":2870.0099999999998,"body":"again, for being on the being an"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2867.4,"endTime":2870.0099999999998,"body":"engineer podcast."},{"speaker":"Jad Allam","startTime":2870.1,"endTime":2871.81,"body":"Thank you so much. It"},{"speaker":"Jad Allam","startTime":2870.1,"endTime":2871.81,"body":"was great chatting with you."},{"speaker":"Jad Allam","startTime":2871.87,"endTime":2872.2,"body":"Thanks."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2873.37,"endTime":2876.88,"body":"I'm Aaron Moncur,"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2873.37,"endTime":2876.88,"body":"founder of pipeline design, and"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2876.91,"endTime":2879.73,"body":"engineering. 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