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Thank you"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2650.98,"endTime":2655.21,"body":"so much again for being on the"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2655.21,"endTime":2655.57,"body":"show."},{"speaker":"John Martell","startTime":2655.7799999999997,"endTime":2656.44,"body":"Thanks for having"},{"speaker":"John Martell","startTime":2655.7799999999997,"endTime":2656.44,"body":"me."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2658.09,"endTime":2661.6,"body":"I'm Aaron Moncur,"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2658.09,"endTime":2661.6,"body":"founder of pipeline design and"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2661.63,"endTime":2664.48,"body":"engineering. 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