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Well, Dean,"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2231.7,"endTime":2235.66,"body":"anything else that you'd like to"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2231.7,"endTime":2235.66,"body":"talk about or share before we"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2235.72,"endTime":2236.71,"body":"end this interview?"},{"speaker":"Dean Odell","startTime":2237.0499999999997,"endTime":2238.67,"body":"No, I think I'm all set."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2237.87,"endTime":2241.23,"body":"Okay, well, thank"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2237.87,"endTime":2241.23,"body":"you so much again for being on"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2241.23,"endTime":2245.5499999999997,"body":"the show and super excited to"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2241.23,"endTime":2245.5499999999997,"body":"meet you in person later this"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2245.5499999999997,"endTime":2246.66,"body":"year at PDX."},{"speaker":"Dean Odell","startTime":2246.37,"endTime":2246.88,"body":"Awesome."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2249.21,"endTime":2252.72,"body":"I'm Aaron Moncur,"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2249.21,"endTime":2252.72,"body":"founder of pipeline design and"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2252.75,"endTime":2255.5699999999997,"body":"engineering. 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