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Well, Camden,"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2736.06,"endTime":2740.44,"body":"thank you so much for spending"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2740.44,"endTime":2743.44,"body":"some time with me today. What a"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2740.44,"endTime":2743.44,"body":"fun conversation this has been."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2743.5,"endTime":2747.24,"body":"And I can just tell, man, you're"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2743.5,"endTime":2747.24,"body":"a smart guy, you're you're"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2747.24,"endTime":2750.96,"body":"driven, you're capable, and I"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2747.24,"endTime":2750.96,"body":"think you're going to do great"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2750.96,"endTime":2755.22,"body":"in career and in life. So keep"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2750.96,"endTime":2755.22,"body":"keep it up. Keep up the good"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2755.22,"endTime":2757.08,"body":"work, and thanks for being on"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2755.22,"endTime":2757.08,"body":"the show today."},{"speaker":"Camden Shuman","startTime":2757.5,"endTime":2759.36,"body":"Thank you very"},{"speaker":"Camden Shuman","startTime":2757.5,"endTime":2759.36,"body":"much, Aaron. That's very kind of"},{"speaker":"Camden Shuman","startTime":2759.36,"endTime":2760.7999999999997,"body":"you to say it's been pleasure."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2762.54,"endTime":2766.04,"body":"I'm Aaron monkirk,"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2762.54,"endTime":2766.04,"body":"founder of pipeline design and"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2766.1,"endTime":2768.92,"body":"engineering. If you liked what"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2766.1,"endTime":2768.92,"body":"you heard today, please share"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2768.98,"endTime":2772.2799999999997,"body":"the episode to learn how your"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2768.98,"endTime":2772.2799999999997,"body":"team can leverage our team's"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2772.34,"endTime":2775.82,"body":"expertise developing advanced"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2772.34,"endTime":2775.82,"body":"manufacturing processes,"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2776.0,"endTime":2779.66,"body":"automated machines and custom"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2776.0,"endTime":2779.66,"body":"fixtures, complemented with"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2779.66,"endTime":2783.5,"body":"product design and R and D"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2779.66,"endTime":2783.5,"body":"services. Visit us at Team"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2783.62,"endTime":2788.38,"body":"pipeline.us. Us to join a"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2783.62,"endTime":2788.38,"body":"vibrant community of engineers"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2788.38,"endTime":2792.52,"body":"online visit the wave. Dot"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2788.38,"endTime":2792.52,"body":"engineer, thank you for"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2792.52,"endTime":2793.06,"body":"listening. You."}]}