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I am always happy to"},{"speaker":"Amelia Howe","startTime":3119.189,"endTime":3125.149,"body":"talk about project management"},{"speaker":"Amelia Howe","startTime":3119.189,"endTime":3125.149,"body":"with engineers, so that's one of"},{"speaker":"Amelia Howe","startTime":3125.1789999999996,"endTime":3130.6389999999997,"body":"my passions. Is how do we"},{"speaker":"Amelia Howe","startTime":3125.1789999999996,"endTime":3130.6389999999997,"body":"discuss this discipline that we"},{"speaker":"Amelia Howe","startTime":3130.8489999999997,"endTime":3134.569,"body":"all love and move it forward"},{"speaker":"Amelia Howe","startTime":3130.8489999999997,"endTime":3134.569,"body":"with the tools in that project"},{"speaker":"Amelia Howe","startTime":3134.5989999999997,"endTime":3140.5989999999997,"body":"management toolbox? 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You can also find"},{"speaker":"Amelia Howe","startTime":3174.0899999999997,"endTime":3178.02,"body":"Chrysalis on LinkedIn, Chrysalis"},{"speaker":"Amelia Howe","startTime":3178.14,"endTime":3181.6699999999996,"body":"Business Consulting LLC. And I"},{"speaker":"Amelia Howe","startTime":3178.14,"endTime":3181.6699999999996,"body":"hope you have a great rest of"},{"speaker":"Amelia Howe","startTime":3181.7,"endTime":3181.8799999999997,"body":"your day."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3182.69,"endTime":3184.3999999999996,"body":"All right. Great,"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3182.69,"endTime":3184.3999999999996,"body":"thank you so much, Amelia."},{"speaker":"Amelia Howe","startTime":3185.6,"endTime":3186.5299999999997,"body":"Thank you. 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