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You have to"},{"speaker":"Jordan Kapitanoff","startTime":3140.234,"endTime":3145.011,"body":"email me at at Cofor"},{"speaker":"Jordan Kapitanoff","startTime":3140.234,"endTime":3145.011,"body":"Jordan.Kapitanoff@Coforge-tech.com"},{"speaker":"Jordan Kapitanoff","startTime":3145.098,"endTime":3148.9199999999996,"body":"So happy to engage with folks"},{"speaker":"Jordan Kapitanoff","startTime":3145.098,"endTime":3148.9199999999996,"body":"there as well."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3149.2799999999997,"endTime":3153.33,"body":"Perfect. And"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3149.2799999999997,"endTime":3153.33,"body":"Kapitanoff, that's K A P I T A N"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3153.39,"endTime":3154.5899999999997,"body":"O F F."},{"speaker":"Jordan Kapitanoff","startTime":3154.98,"endTime":3155.5499999999997,"body":"Yes,"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3156.0,"endTime":3159.7799999999997,"body":"all right. Jordan,"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3156.0,"endTime":3159.7799999999997,"body":"thank you so much for being on"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3159.7799999999997,"endTime":3162.69,"body":"the podcast today. It was super"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3159.7799999999997,"endTime":3162.69,"body":"fun talking with you, and"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3162.69,"endTime":3166.5899999999997,"body":"finally learning how screws were"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3162.69,"endTime":3166.5899999999997,"body":"made, among other things."},{"speaker":"Jordan Kapitanoff","startTime":3166.5899999999997,"endTime":3167.85,"body":"Yeah, thanks"},{"speaker":"Jordan Kapitanoff","startTime":3166.5899999999997,"endTime":3167.85,"body":"for having me. I really"},{"speaker":"Jordan Kapitanoff","startTime":3167.85,"endTime":3168.33,"body":"appreciate it."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3170.8199999999997,"endTime":3174.345,"body":"I'm Aaron Moncur,"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3170.8199999999997,"endTime":3174.345,"body":"founder of Pipeline Design and"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3174.345,"endTime":3177.1949999999997,"body":"Engineering. 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