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But he does a"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2377.6299999999997,"endTime":2380.89,"body":"great job, he's a great teacher,"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2377.6299999999997,"endTime":2380.89,"body":"and he just puts like all this"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2381.0099999999998,"endTime":2384.3399999999997,"body":"great stuff out there for free,"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2381.0099999999998,"endTime":2384.3399999999997,"body":"and then he has a paid course as"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2384.46,"endTime":2388.66,"body":"well, and after six months of"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2384.46,"endTime":2388.66,"body":"watching this guy and learning"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2389.1099999999997,"endTime":2392.1699999999996,"body":"so, so much from him, I was"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2389.1099999999997,"endTime":2392.1699999999996,"body":"like, you know what, yes, here,"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2392.44,"endTime":2395.44,"body":"take my money, I would love to"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2392.44,"endTime":2395.44,"body":"give you my money, give me your"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2395.5299999999997,"endTime":2398.35,"body":"course, and so now I'm into his"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2395.5299999999997,"endTime":2398.35,"body":"course, and it's not an"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2398.44,"endTime":2401.58,"body":"inexpensive course, but I was, I"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2398.44,"endTime":2401.58,"body":"was happy to do it, because of"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2401.7599999999998,"endTime":2404.52,"body":"how much I've learned from him."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2401.7599999999998,"endTime":2404.52,"body":"So, I think you're going down"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2405.1499999999996,"endTime":2408.6,"body":"exactly the right path, and it's"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2405.1499999999996,"endTime":2408.6,"body":"interesting, too. Right, people"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2408.72,"endTime":2413.3399999999997,"body":"see what you're actually doing."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2408.72,"endTime":2413.3399999999997,"body":"It's not like this contrived"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2413.5499999999997,"endTime":2418.47,"body":"corporate marketing baloney."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2413.5499999999997,"endTime":2418.47,"body":"This is, these are lessons that"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2418.5,"endTime":2421.35,"body":"you're actually learning, and"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2418.5,"endTime":2421.35,"body":"you're sharing it all"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2421.68,"endTime":2424.3399999999997,"body":"completely, opening the kimono,"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2421.68,"endTime":2424.3399999999997,"body":"I just, I think that's"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2424.64,"endTime":2428.33,"body":"fantastic, and I'm sure you are"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2424.64,"endTime":2428.33,"body":"inspiring and educating a lot of"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2428.3599999999997,"endTime":2430.1299999999997,"body":"people out there. So, thank you"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2428.3599999999997,"endTime":2430.1299999999997,"body":"for doing that."},{"speaker":"Paul Vizzio","startTime":2431.27,"endTime":2433.0699999999997,"body":"Yeah, of course,"},{"speaker":"Paul Vizzio","startTime":2431.27,"endTime":2433.0699999999997,"body":"thanks, man. I'm glad you, I'm"},{"speaker":"Paul Vizzio","startTime":2433.1,"endTime":2435.08,"body":"glad you like, and I'm glad"},{"speaker":"Paul Vizzio","startTime":2433.1,"endTime":2435.08,"body":"you've been following along, and"},{"speaker":"Paul Vizzio","startTime":2436.1,"endTime":2439.2799999999997,"body":"every time I hear somebody say"},{"speaker":"Paul Vizzio","startTime":2436.1,"endTime":2439.2799999999997,"body":"that, like, it gives me a little"},{"speaker":"Paul Vizzio","startTime":2439.3399999999997,"endTime":2442.66,"body":"kick to be like, okay, I am, I"},{"speaker":"Paul Vizzio","startTime":2439.3399999999997,"endTime":2442.66,"body":"am helping some people out"},{"speaker":"Paul Vizzio","startTime":2442.72,"endTime":2445.21,"body":"there. Sometimes I feel like I'm"},{"speaker":"Paul Vizzio","startTime":2442.72,"endTime":2445.21,"body":"just shouting to the void to"},{"speaker":"Paul Vizzio","startTime":2445.24,"endTime":2447.8199999999997,"body":"have like three people like my"},{"speaker":"Paul Vizzio","startTime":2445.24,"endTime":2447.8199999999997,"body":"page, and then like two of them"},{"speaker":"Paul Vizzio","startTime":2447.85,"endTime":2447.97,"body":"are me."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2449.48,"endTime":2451.04,"body":"I have no idea"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2449.48,"endTime":2451.04,"body":"what that's like ever."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2451.2799999999997,"endTime":2457.85,"body":"All right, Paul. Well, thank you"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2451.2799999999997,"endTime":2457.85,"body":"so much for being so open and"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2457.85,"endTime":2460.73,"body":"just walking us through that"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2457.85,"endTime":2460.73,"body":"entire process. I felt like that"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2460.73,"endTime":2467.54,"body":"was a miniature master class in"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2460.73,"endTime":2467.54,"body":"developing a product company,"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2467.69,"endTime":2470.81,"body":"and you know all the joys and"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2467.69,"endTime":2470.81,"body":"headaches that go along with it."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2470.81,"endTime":2474.4849999999997,"body":"So, thank you again."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2474.4849999999997,"endTime":2478.835,"body":"I'm Aaron Moncur, founder of"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2474.4849999999997,"endTime":2478.835,"body":"Pipeline Design and Engineering."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2478.835,"endTime":2480.995,"body":"If you liked what you heard"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2478.835,"endTime":2480.995,"body":"today, please share. Share the"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2480.995,"endTime":2484.265,"body":"episode to learn how your team"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2480.995,"endTime":2484.265,"body":"can leverage our team's"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2484.265,"endTime":2487.895,"body":"expertise developing advanced"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2484.265,"endTime":2487.895,"body":"manufacturing processes,"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2487.895,"endTime":2491.585,"body":"automated machines, and custom"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2487.895,"endTime":2491.585,"body":"fixtures complemented with"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2491.585,"endTime":2497.99,"body":"product design and R\u0026D services."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2491.585,"endTime":2497.99,"body":"Visit us at Team pipeline.us to"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2497.99,"endTime":2502.5499999999997,"body":"join a vibrant community of"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2497.99,"endTime":2502.5499999999997,"body":"engineers online. Visit the Wave"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2502.5499999999997,"endTime":2510.9199999999996,"body":"dot engineer. Thank you for"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2502.5499999999997,"endTime":2510.9199999999996,"body":"listening."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2510.9199999999996,"endTime":2516.1699999999996,"body":"Being an engineer has more than"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2510.9199999999996,"endTime":2516.1699999999996,"body":"300 episodes, and you don't have"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2516.1699999999996,"endTime":2519.785,"body":"to listen to them in order. If"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2516.1699999999996,"endTime":2519.785,"body":"you're dealing with a specific"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2519.785,"endTime":2522.7549999999997,"body":"challenge right now, there's a"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2519.785,"endTime":2522.7549999999997,"body":"good chance we've already"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2522.7549999999997,"endTime":2525.935,"body":"interviewed an engineer who's"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2522.7549999999997,"endTime":2525.935,"body":"been through it. You can jump"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2525.935,"endTime":2529.565,"body":"around, search by topic, and"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2525.935,"endTime":2529.565,"body":"listen to what's most relevant"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2529.565,"endTime":2534.335,"body":"to you. See you on the next"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2529.565,"endTime":2534.335,"body":"episode."}]}