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Knife."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":1197.33,"endTime":1200.09,"body":"My wife, she makes"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":1197.33,"endTime":1200.09,"body":"fun of me because every time I"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":1200.09,"endTime":1204.05,"body":"pick something up, I'm always"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":1200.09,"endTime":1204.05,"body":"turning it around in my hands"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":1204.05,"endTime":1208.16,"body":"and analyzing it and thinking"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":1204.05,"endTime":1208.16,"body":"about what manufacturing process"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":1208.46,"endTime":1210.71,"body":"was used to make this, you know,"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":1208.46,"endTime":1210.71,"body":"like, Where are the parting"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":1210.71,"endTime":1214.4,"body":"lines where the ejector pin"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":1210.71,"endTime":1214.4,"body":"marks? That kind of thing? She"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":1214.4,"endTime":1218.03,"body":"always gives me a hard time. But"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":1214.4,"endTime":1218.03,"body":"that's, yeah, engineers are the"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":1218.03,"endTime":1219.08,"body":"best. You can never be"},{"speaker":"Rafael Testai","startTime":1219.08,"endTime":1220.19,"body":"bored with that"},{"speaker":"Rafael Testai","startTime":1219.08,"endTime":1220.19,"body":"mindset."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":1221.24,"endTime":1227.03,"body":"I agree. Yeah."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":1221.24,"endTime":1227.03,"body":"It's a eternal curiosity. Right."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":1227.57,"endTime":1232.46,"body":"Exactly. All right. Well, Raph,"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":1227.57,"endTime":1232.46,"body":"I think we'll wrap it up. Now."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":1232.49,"endTime":1236.54,"body":"Thank you so much for being on"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":1232.49,"endTime":1236.54,"body":"the podcast and sharing a little"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":1236.54,"endTime":1242.3,"body":"bit about your experience as an"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":1236.54,"endTime":1242.3,"body":"engineer, very much appreciated"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":1242.33,"endTime":1245.36,"body":"any, any last words that you'd"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":1242.33,"endTime":1245.36,"body":"like to leave us with?"},{"speaker":"Rafael Testai","startTime":1246.17,"endTime":1248.72,"body":"I'm just a"},{"speaker":"Rafael Testai","startTime":1246.17,"endTime":1248.72,"body":"learner for life. So I'm always"},{"speaker":"Rafael Testai","startTime":1248.72,"endTime":1252.59,"body":"going to continue learning. And"},{"speaker":"Rafael Testai","startTime":1248.72,"endTime":1252.59,"body":"hopefully, I pray that I keep my"},{"speaker":"Rafael Testai","startTime":1252.59,"endTime":1255.59,"body":"exciting I mean, it was YaSM"},{"speaker":"Rafael Testai","startTime":1252.59,"endTime":1255.59,"body":"because that's one of the things"},{"speaker":"Rafael Testai","startTime":1255.59,"endTime":1258.11,"body":"that drives me. I'm very excited"},{"speaker":"Rafael Testai","startTime":1255.59,"endTime":1258.11,"body":"to wake up every day and do what"},{"speaker":"Rafael Testai","startTime":1258.11,"endTime":1258.41,"body":"I do."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":1259.369,"endTime":1261.649,"body":"Can't put it"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":1259.369,"endTime":1261.649,"body":"better than that. Thank you,"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":1261.649,"endTime":1262.129,"body":"ref."},{"speaker":"Rafael Testai","startTime":1262.43,"endTime":1263.18,"body":"Thanks for having"},{"speaker":"Rafael Testai","startTime":1262.43,"endTime":1263.18,"body":"me."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":1267.829,"endTime":1271.159,"body":"I'm Aaron Moncure,"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":1267.829,"endTime":1271.159,"body":"founder of pipeline design, and"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":1271.159,"endTime":1274.339,"body":"engineering. If you liked what"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":1271.159,"endTime":1274.339,"body":"you heard today, please leave us"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":1274.339,"endTime":1277.309,"body":"a positive review. It really"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":1274.339,"endTime":1277.309,"body":"helps other people find the"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":1277.309,"endTime":1280.669,"body":"show. 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