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It still still doesn't"},{"speaker":"Ronan Jenkinson","startTime":2606.7,"endTime":2607.24,"body":"fix it."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2607.75,"endTime":2609.79,"body":"If he can find"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2607.75,"endTime":2609.79,"body":"some chewing gum and fishing"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2609.79,"endTime":2610.81,"body":"line, game over."},{"speaker":"Ronan Jenkinson","startTime":2610.81,"endTime":2611.3199999999997,"body":"Exactly."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2611.35,"endTime":2612.19,"body":"He wins."},{"speaker":"Ronan Jenkinson","startTime":2612.4,"endTime":2614.3199999999997,"body":"So I would have"},{"speaker":"Ronan Jenkinson","startTime":2612.4,"endTime":2614.3199999999997,"body":"to go with MacGyver."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2614.74,"endTime":2617.89,"body":"I think I got"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2614.74,"endTime":2617.89,"body":"MacGyver also. Yeah, he's got"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2617.89,"endTime":2620.95,"body":"the brains, the ingenuity, the"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2617.89,"endTime":2620.95,"body":"resourcefulness to figure it"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2620.95,"endTime":2621.04,"body":"out."},{"speaker":"Ronan Jenkinson","startTime":2621.04,"endTime":2623.2599999999998,"body":"He'll he'll"},{"speaker":"Ronan Jenkinson","startTime":2621.04,"endTime":2623.2599999999998,"body":"figure it out. He'll always"},{"speaker":"Ronan Jenkinson","startTime":2623.2599999999998,"endTime":2623.5899999999997,"body":"figure it out."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2624.2799999999997,"endTime":2626.35,"body":"Batman, he's got"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2624.2799999999997,"endTime":2626.35,"body":"some muscle, but he's just"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2626.35,"endTime":2632.5,"body":"throwing money at this problem."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2626.35,"endTime":2632.5,"body":"All right, well, how can how can"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2632.5,"endTime":2636.43,"body":"people get a hold of you, you"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2632.5,"endTime":2636.43,"body":"mentioned that you'd love to do"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2636.43,"endTime":2639.73,"body":"some mentoring in the future."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2636.43,"endTime":2639.73,"body":"Clearly, you've got a lot of"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2639.7599999999998,"endTime":2643.27,"body":"already talent. Based on your 10"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2639.7599999999998,"endTime":2643.27,"body":"plus years of experience in the"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2643.27,"endTime":2646.2999999999997,"body":"field. Maybe people just want to"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2643.27,"endTime":2646.2999999999997,"body":"talk to you, whatever. What's a"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2646.2999999999997,"endTime":2647.68,"body":"good way for people to get ahold"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2646.2999999999997,"endTime":2647.68,"body":"of you?"},{"speaker":"Ronan Jenkinson","startTime":2647.71,"endTime":2650.5899999999997,"body":"My LinkedIn, my"},{"speaker":"Ronan Jenkinson","startTime":2647.71,"endTime":2650.5899999999997,"body":"LinkedIn is definitely easiest"},{"speaker":"Ronan Jenkinson","startTime":2650.5899999999997,"endTime":2653.89,"body":"way. If somebody has a question,"},{"speaker":"Ronan Jenkinson","startTime":2650.5899999999997,"endTime":2653.89,"body":"please, feel free."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2655.37,"endTime":2658.49,"body":"My LinkedIn, is"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2655.37,"endTime":2658.49,"body":"that is that a Irish specific"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2658.49,"endTime":2661.67,"body":"version of what we call LinkedIn"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2658.49,"endTime":2661.67,"body":"here in the US?"},{"speaker":"Ronan Jenkinson","startTime":2661.8399999999997,"endTime":2663.4,"body":"It just"},{"speaker":"Ronan Jenkinson","startTime":2661.8399999999997,"endTime":2663.4,"body":"requires you to think a little"},{"speaker":"Ronan Jenkinson","startTime":2663.4,"endTime":2666.31,"body":"bit quicker. It's actually my"},{"speaker":"Ronan Jenkinson","startTime":2663.4,"endTime":2666.31,"body":"LinkedIn."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2669.97,"endTime":2672.1,"body":"All right, Rob,"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2669.97,"endTime":2672.1,"body":"thank you for sharing. Thank"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2672.1,"endTime":2676.15,"body":"you. I really appreciate you"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2672.1,"endTime":2676.15,"body":"sharing some time with us today."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2676.15,"endTime":2679.39,"body":"You've been great. Thank you"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2676.15,"endTime":2679.39,"body":"for, thank you for the fun"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2679.39,"endTime":2680.14,"body":"conversation."},{"speaker":"Ronan Jenkinson","startTime":2680.23,"endTime":2681.7599999999998,"body":"No, thank you,"},{"speaker":"Ronan Jenkinson","startTime":2680.23,"endTime":2681.7599999999998,"body":"and good luck."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2685.45,"endTime":2688.7799999999997,"body":"I'm Aaron Moncur,"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2685.45,"endTime":2688.7799999999997,"body":"Founder of Pipeline Design and"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2688.7799999999997,"endTime":2691.96,"body":"engineering. If you liked what"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2688.7799999999997,"endTime":2691.96,"body":"you heard today, please leave us"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2691.96,"endTime":2694.93,"body":"a positive review. 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