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That's great. Well,"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2958.1299999999997,"endTime":2960.08,"body":"Seth, how can people get ahold"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2958.1299999999997,"endTime":2960.08,"body":"of you?"},{"speaker":"Seth Garrison","startTime":2960.6699999999996,"endTime":2963.49,"body":"Probably the best"},{"speaker":"Seth Garrison","startTime":2960.6699999999996,"endTime":2963.49,"body":"way is my email address. So"},{"speaker":"Seth Garrison","startTime":2963.49,"endTime":2966.31,"body":"it's, it's real simple. It's my"},{"speaker":"Seth Garrison","startTime":2963.49,"endTime":2966.31,"body":"first name and last initial,"},{"speaker":"Seth Garrison","startTime":2968.1699999999996,"endTime":2975.0699999999997,"body":"sethg@iptech1.com. IP TECH and"},{"speaker":"Seth Garrison","startTime":2968.1699999999996,"endTime":2975.0699999999997,"body":"number 1 dot com. 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