{"version":"1.0.0","segments":[{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":14.19,"endTime":17.13,"body":"Welcome to the"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":14.19,"endTime":17.13,"body":"Being An Engineer Podcast. Our"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":17.13,"endTime":21.93,"body":"guest today is Tuan Tranpham,"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":17.13,"endTime":21.93,"body":"who has been working in the 3D"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":21.93,"endTime":26.19,"body":"printing space for the past 17"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":21.93,"endTime":26.19,"body":"years. In fact, he refers to"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":26.19,"endTime":30.03,"body":"himself as a 3D printing"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":26.19,"endTime":30.03,"body":"evangelist. 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