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I"},{"speaker":"Lisa Somogyi","startTime":2834.96,"endTime":2837.2999999999997,"body":"mean, you find me on LinkedIn"},{"speaker":"Lisa Somogyi","startTime":2834.96,"endTime":2837.2999999999997,"body":"do."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2838.83,"endTime":2840.84,"body":"Okay, excellent."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2838.83,"endTime":2840.84,"body":"Well, Lisa, thank you so much"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2840.84,"endTime":2844.17,"body":"for your time. Really appreciate"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2840.84,"endTime":2844.17,"body":"you hanging out on the Being An"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2844.17,"endTime":2845.07,"body":"Engineer Podcast."},{"speaker":"Lisa Somogyi","startTime":2845.1,"endTime":2846.66,"body":"Yeah. Thanks,"},{"speaker":"Lisa Somogyi","startTime":2845.1,"endTime":2846.66,"body":"Aaron. 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