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It's"},{"speaker":"Mauricio Romero","startTime":2584.49,"endTime":2590.7599999999998,"body":"mromero@ipsdanger.com. That's"},{"speaker":"Mauricio Romero","startTime":2590.7599999999998,"endTime":2592.68,"body":"probably the best way to get"},{"speaker":"Mauricio Romero","startTime":2590.7599999999998,"endTime":2592.68,"body":"ahold of me."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2593.22,"endTime":2595.14,"body":"All right,"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2593.22,"endTime":2595.14,"body":"terrific. Well, thank you again,"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2595.14,"endTime":2598.3199999999997,"body":"so much for spending some time"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2595.14,"endTime":2598.3199999999997,"body":"with us. I really appreciate all"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2598.3199999999997,"endTime":2601.23,"body":"the answers you've shared, and"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2598.3199999999997,"endTime":2601.23,"body":"it's been just delightful"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2601.23,"endTime":2602.0099999999998,"body":"getting to know you."},{"speaker":"Mauricio Romero","startTime":2602.31,"endTime":2603.54,"body":"Thank you."},{"speaker":"Mauricio Romero","startTime":2602.31,"endTime":2603.54,"body":"Appreciate it."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2607.29,"endTime":2610.62,"body":"I'm Aaron Moncur,"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2607.29,"endTime":2610.62,"body":"Founder of Pipeline Design \u0026"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2610.62,"endTime":2613.7999999999997,"body":"Engineering. 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