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I"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2525.0299999999997,"endTime":2528.63,"body":"mean, is each one just a few"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2528.63,"endTime":2531.42,"body":"hours, or is it a few weeks of"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2528.63,"endTime":2531.42,"body":"studying and preparing?"},{"speaker":"Mark Downey","startTime":2532.41,"endTime":2535.14,"body":"Using the software"},{"speaker":"Mark Downey","startTime":2532.41,"endTime":2535.14,"body":"is definitely important"},{"speaker":"Mark Downey","startTime":2535.47,"endTime":2538.95,"body":"experience behind the behind the"},{"speaker":"Mark Downey","startTime":2535.47,"endTime":2538.95,"body":"wheel, if you will, is going to"},{"speaker":"Mark Downey","startTime":2538.95,"endTime":2543.69,"body":"be helpful. 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So if you were"},{"speaker":"Mark Downey","startTime":2560.4,"endTime":2563.79,"body":"going to do it, you'd want to"},{"speaker":"Mark Downey","startTime":2560.4,"endTime":2563.79,"body":"study, go through the go through"},{"speaker":"Mark Downey","startTime":2563.79,"endTime":2568.38,"body":"the tutorials that come with"},{"speaker":"Mark Downey","startTime":2563.79,"endTime":2568.38,"body":"SolidWorks. There's also on the"},{"speaker":"Mark Downey","startTime":2568.38,"endTime":2572.97,"body":"My SolidWorks. website, there's"},{"speaker":"Mark Downey","startTime":2568.38,"endTime":2572.97,"body":"training available for if you've"},{"speaker":"Mark Downey","startTime":2572.97,"endTime":2578.04,"body":"got a subscription to go in"},{"speaker":"Mark Downey","startTime":2572.97,"endTime":2578.04,"body":"there and take the take some of"},{"speaker":"Mark Downey","startTime":2578.04,"endTime":2581.7599999999998,"body":"the classes for the CSWP. 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Well, what are what are"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2589.08,"endTime":2592.5,"body":"some of the biggest problems"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2589.08,"endTime":2592.5,"body":"that you encounter at work?"},{"speaker":"Mark Downey","startTime":2594.0,"endTime":2594.9,"body":"In this role?"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2599.49,"endTime":2601.5,"body":"And if nothing"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2599.49,"endTime":2601.5,"body":"comes to mind, specifically for"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2601.5,"endTime":2606.15,"body":"this role, feel free to expand"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2601.5,"endTime":2606.15,"body":"that question to your general"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2606.15,"endTime":2607.2,"body":"career history."},{"speaker":"Mark Downey","startTime":2608.5499999999997,"endTime":2612.87,"body":"Let's see. Um, I"},{"speaker":"Mark Downey","startTime":2608.5499999999997,"endTime":2612.87,"body":"guess in general time"},{"speaker":"Mark Downey","startTime":2612.87,"endTime":2616.14,"body":"management, when I think about"},{"speaker":"Mark Downey","startTime":2612.87,"endTime":2616.14,"body":"past positions, time management"},{"speaker":"Mark Downey","startTime":2616.17,"endTime":2622.62,"body":"is, is always fun trying to make"},{"speaker":"Mark Downey","startTime":2616.17,"endTime":2622.62,"body":"sure you schedule enough time to"},{"speaker":"Mark Downey","startTime":2622.62,"endTime":2626.91,"body":"get the job done. Don't"},{"speaker":"Mark Downey","startTime":2622.62,"endTime":2626.91,"body":"overcommit. It's, you always"},{"speaker":"Mark Downey","startTime":2626.91,"endTime":2630.81,"body":"want to feel like you're being"},{"speaker":"Mark Downey","startTime":2626.91,"endTime":2630.81,"body":"part of the team. But it is one"},{"speaker":"Mark Downey","startTime":2630.81,"endTime":2634.2599999999998,"body":"of the hardest things learned to"},{"speaker":"Mark Downey","startTime":2630.81,"endTime":2634.2599999999998,"body":"say is no, you when you're when"},{"speaker":"Mark Downey","startTime":2634.2599999999998,"endTime":2636.6,"body":"you're working for a team, and"},{"speaker":"Mark Downey","startTime":2634.2599999999998,"endTime":2636.6,"body":"they come up to us, Hey, can you"},{"speaker":"Mark Downey","startTime":2636.6,"endTime":2638.88,"body":"go do this? Oh, yeah, I can do"},{"speaker":"Mark Downey","startTime":2636.6,"endTime":2638.88,"body":"that. How can you do this? Oh,"},{"speaker":"Mark Downey","startTime":2638.88,"endTime":2641.07,"body":"yeah, I can do that. And before?"},{"speaker":"Mark Downey","startTime":2638.88,"endTime":2641.07,"body":"No, and before you know it,"},{"speaker":"Mark Downey","startTime":2641.07,"endTime":2644.1,"body":"you're you're you've got 10 jobs"},{"speaker":"Mark Downey","startTime":2641.07,"endTime":2644.1,"body":"on your plate when you really"},{"speaker":"Mark Downey","startTime":2644.1,"endTime":2648.57,"body":"can only handle two or three. So"},{"speaker":"Mark Downey","startTime":2644.1,"endTime":2648.57,"body":"learning how to say no, is"},{"speaker":"Mark Downey","startTime":2648.57,"endTime":2650.97,"body":"probably one of the biggest"},{"speaker":"Mark Downey","startTime":2648.57,"endTime":2650.97,"body":"challenges, I think"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2650.97,"endTime":2653.04,"body":"That's great"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2650.97,"endTime":2653.04,"body":"advice. I love that. Yeah."},{"speaker":"Mark Downey","startTime":2653.82,"endTime":2655.98,"body":"You don't have to"},{"speaker":"Mark Downey","startTime":2653.82,"endTime":2655.98,"body":"be bad about..."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2656.16,"endTime":2656.61,"body":"No, I agree for"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2656.16,"endTime":2656.61,"body":"sure"},{"speaker":"Mark Downey","startTime":2656.61,"endTime":2658.41,"body":"'No, I can't do"},{"speaker":"Mark Downey","startTime":2656.61,"endTime":2658.41,"body":"that.' But you can certainly"},{"speaker":"Mark Downey","startTime":2658.41,"endTime":2660.99,"body":"say, 'You know what, I'd love to"},{"speaker":"Mark Downey","startTime":2658.41,"endTime":2660.99,"body":"help you out. But I've got so"},{"speaker":"Mark Downey","startTime":2660.99,"endTime":2663.93,"body":"much stuff going on right now.'"},{"speaker":"Mark Downey","startTime":2660.99,"endTime":2663.93,"body":"And I mean, they can they can"},{"speaker":"Mark Downey","startTime":2663.93,"endTime":2670.89,"body":"understand. And management, I"},{"speaker":"Mark Downey","startTime":2663.93,"endTime":2670.89,"body":"think a lot of times, will miss"},{"speaker":"Mark Downey","startTime":2670.89,"endTime":2673.5299999999997,"body":"that if you've got somebody"},{"speaker":"Mark Downey","startTime":2670.89,"endTime":2673.5299999999997,"body":"who's wanting to take things on"},{"speaker":"Mark Downey","startTime":2673.5299999999997,"endTime":2677.16,"body":"and on and never say no, they'll"},{"speaker":"Mark Downey","startTime":2673.5299999999997,"endTime":2677.16,"body":"they'll just keep piling things"},{"speaker":"Mark Downey","startTime":2677.16,"endTime":2679.95,"body":"on. And and then you start"},{"speaker":"Mark Downey","startTime":2677.16,"endTime":2679.95,"body":"missing deadlines. And you're"},{"speaker":"Mark Downey","startTime":2679.95,"endTime":2681.54,"body":"like, Well, why did you miss"},{"speaker":"Mark Downey","startTime":2679.95,"endTime":2681.54,"body":"that like? Well, because I've"},{"speaker":"Mark Downey","startTime":2681.54,"endTime":2683.64,"body":"had so many things. Well, I"},{"speaker":"Mark Downey","startTime":2681.54,"endTime":2683.64,"body":"should have said something early"},{"speaker":"Mark Downey","startTime":2683.64,"endTime":2687.93,"body":"on. So if you're saying, hey,"},{"speaker":"Mark Downey","startTime":2683.64,"endTime":2687.93,"body":"I've got this working on now,"},{"speaker":"Mark Downey","startTime":2688.56,"endTime":2692.16,"body":"then it helps schedule things"},{"speaker":"Mark Downey","startTime":2688.56,"endTime":2692.16,"body":"out. So I think learning how to"},{"speaker":"Mark Downey","startTime":2693.42,"endTime":2697.62,"body":"understand what your workload"},{"speaker":"Mark Downey","startTime":2693.42,"endTime":2697.62,"body":"is, and and understand what you"},{"speaker":"Mark Downey","startTime":2697.62,"endTime":2699.84,"body":"can get done in a certain amount"},{"speaker":"Mark Downey","startTime":2697.62,"endTime":2699.84,"body":"of time, which comes with"},{"speaker":"Mark Downey","startTime":2699.84,"endTime":2705.24,"body":"experience is definitely a good,"},{"speaker":"Mark Downey","startTime":2699.84,"endTime":2705.24,"body":"a good challenge."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2705.65,"endTime":2707.81,"body":"Great advice."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2705.65,"endTime":2707.81,"body":"Thank you for sharing that."},{"speaker":"Mark Downey","startTime":2707.96,"endTime":2708.29,"body":"Sure."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2709.4,"endTime":2711.7999999999997,"body":"Well, Mark, I"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2709.4,"endTime":2711.7999999999997,"body":"should let you go. But thank you"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2711.83,"endTime":2717.02,"body":"so much for spending this time."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2711.83,"endTime":2717.02,"body":"Before before we end. How can"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2717.02,"endTime":2717.98,"body":"people get ahold of you?"},{"speaker":"Mark Downey","startTime":2719.42,"endTime":2721.5499999999997,"body":"Through my work"},{"speaker":"Mark Downey","startTime":2719.42,"endTime":2721.5499999999997,"body":"email, it's"},{"speaker":"Mark Downey","startTime":2721.64,"endTime":2726.08,"body":"mdowney@goengineer.com. That's"},{"speaker":"Mark Downey","startTime":2721.64,"endTime":2726.08,"body":"probably a good way to get ahold"},{"speaker":"Mark Downey","startTime":2726.08,"endTime":2730.73,"body":"of me for any questions you may"},{"speaker":"Mark Downey","startTime":2726.08,"endTime":2730.73,"body":"have. And I can respond via that"},{"speaker":"Mark Downey","startTime":2730.73,"endTime":2730.97,"body":"way."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2731.57,"endTime":2733.58,"body":"And if we want to"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2731.57,"endTime":2733.58,"body":"come stay at your farm in"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2733.58,"endTime":2734.72,"body":"Missouri, how do we do that?"},{"speaker":"Mark Downey","startTime":2735.47,"endTime":2736.79,"body":"Hit me up and we'll"},{"speaker":"Mark Downey","startTime":2735.47,"endTime":2736.79,"body":"talk about it."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2738.92,"endTime":2740.87,"body":"Okay, fair enough."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2738.92,"endTime":2740.87,"body":"Well, Mark, thank you so much"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2740.87,"endTime":2742.2799999999997,"body":"for spending some time with us"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2740.87,"endTime":2742.2799999999997,"body":"today."},{"speaker":"Mark Downey","startTime":2742.49,"endTime":2744.29,"body":"My pleasure, Aaron."},{"speaker":"Mark Downey","startTime":2742.49,"endTime":2744.29,"body":"Have a great day, it's nice"},{"speaker":"Mark Downey","startTime":2744.29,"endTime":2744.86,"body":"speaking with you."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2748.64,"endTime":2751.97,"body":"I'm Aaron Moncur,"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2748.64,"endTime":2751.97,"body":"Founder of Pipeline Design and"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2751.97,"endTime":2755.15,"body":"Engineering. 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