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So, yeah."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2819.43,"endTime":2820.9,"body":"Excellent."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2819.43,"endTime":2820.9,"body":"Excellent. Well, it sounds like"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2820.9,"endTime":2823.12,"body":"a fantastic place to work."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2820.9,"endTime":2823.12,"body":"They're lucky to have you."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2823.2999999999997,"endTime":2826.72,"body":"Absolutely. Yeah. lucky to be a"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2823.2999999999997,"endTime":2826.72,"body":"part of it. All right. Well,"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2826.72,"endTime":2830.59,"body":"thanks again for being with us."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2826.72,"endTime":2830.59,"body":"Until next time on The being an"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2830.59,"endTime":2838.09,"body":"engineer podcast. 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