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I think"},{"speaker":"Blaine Rader","startTime":2735.04,"endTime":2742.0299999999997,"body":"that's that, that's, that's the"},{"speaker":"Blaine Rader","startTime":2742.0299999999997,"endTime":2743.0499999999997,"body":"never ending challenge."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2744.36,"endTime":2748.71,"body":"That reminds me of"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2744.36,"endTime":2748.71,"body":"an experience I had in college,"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2748.71,"endTime":2753.0299999999997,"body":"I had this roommate, Mark, Mark,"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2748.71,"endTime":2753.0299999999997,"body":"if you're listening, you know"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2753.0299999999997,"endTime":2756.72,"body":"who you are. And I was always so"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2753.0299999999997,"endTime":2756.72,"body":"impressed with Mark, because"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2756.72,"endTime":2762.84,"body":"he's a really smart guy. And it"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2756.72,"endTime":2762.84,"body":"seemed like, he never got"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2762.84,"endTime":2766.71,"body":"stumped on problems. Even if he"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2762.84,"endTime":2766.71,"body":"didn't know the answer. He would"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2766.71,"endTime":2769.56,"body":"figure out well, maybe I don't"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2766.71,"endTime":2769.56,"body":"know how to solve this problem."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2769.56,"endTime":2773.49,"body":"But I do know how to approach"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2769.56,"endTime":2773.49,"body":"this part of it. You know,"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2773.49,"endTime":2776.34,"body":"there's something that I can do."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2773.49,"endTime":2776.34,"body":"I don't know that this is going"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2776.34,"endTime":2779.25,"body":"to lead me to the answer, but"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2776.34,"endTime":2779.25,"body":"there's something related that I"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2779.25,"endTime":2782.37,"body":"can do. I'm going to try that"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2779.25,"endTime":2782.37,"body":"and see what happens. That was"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2782.37,"endTime":2787.41,"body":"something important, I learned"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2782.37,"endTime":2787.41,"body":"from him. It Is to you know, and"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2787.98,"endTime":2791.46,"body":"as a tool to keep things moving"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2787.98,"endTime":2791.46,"body":"forward, maybe you don't know"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2791.46,"endTime":2796.02,"body":"exactly what the solution is."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2791.46,"endTime":2796.02,"body":"But there's this knob that we"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2796.02,"endTime":2798.72,"body":"can turn. I don't know exactly"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2796.02,"endTime":2798.72,"body":"what's going to happen when I"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2798.72,"endTime":2801.6,"body":"turn it, but let's try it and"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2798.72,"endTime":2801.6,"body":"see what happens, and so on and"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2801.6,"endTime":2807.72,"body":"so forth. Well, Blaine, you've"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2801.6,"endTime":2807.72,"body":"been so generous with your time"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2807.72,"endTime":2811.2,"body":"and sharing all of your wisdom"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2807.72,"endTime":2811.2,"body":"and knowledge. Thank you so much"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2811.2,"endTime":2814.38,"body":"for being on the show. How can"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2811.2,"endTime":2814.38,"body":"people get ahold of you?"},{"speaker":"Blaine Rader","startTime":2814.7599999999998,"endTime":2817.88,"body":"Yeah, I'd be happy"},{"speaker":"Blaine Rader","startTime":2814.7599999999998,"endTime":2817.88,"body":"to take any questions via email."},{"speaker":"Blaine Rader","startTime":2818.87,"endTime":2821.33,"body":"My email is very simple. It's"},{"speaker":"Blaine Rader","startTime":2818.87,"endTime":2821.33,"body":"just my first name,"},{"speaker":"Blaine Rader","startTime":2823.58,"endTime":2828.71,"body":"blaine_rader@yahoo.com. You"},{"speaker":"Blaine Rader","startTime":2823.58,"endTime":2828.71,"body":"know, you have any questions,"},{"speaker":"Blaine Rader","startTime":2830.21,"endTime":2833.18,"body":"you know, about whatever it is"},{"speaker":"Blaine Rader","startTime":2830.21,"endTime":2833.18,"body":"from an engineering medical"},{"speaker":"Blaine Rader","startTime":2833.18,"endTime":2838.22,"body":"devices, you know, career path."},{"speaker":"Blaine Rader","startTime":2833.18,"endTime":2838.22,"body":"You know, do I even want to be"},{"speaker":"Blaine Rader","startTime":2838.22,"endTime":2842.09,"body":"an engineer, happy to happy to"},{"speaker":"Blaine Rader","startTime":2838.22,"endTime":2842.09,"body":"happy to have that conversation."},{"speaker":"Blaine Rader","startTime":2842.09,"endTime":2849.08,"body":"I've probably spoken to hundreds"},{"speaker":"Blaine Rader","startTime":2842.09,"endTime":2849.08,"body":"of young engineers at this point"},{"speaker":"Blaine Rader","startTime":2849.08,"endTime":2851.33,"body":"in my career, and I'm happy to"},{"speaker":"Blaine Rader","startTime":2849.08,"endTime":2851.33,"body":"continue to do that always"},{"speaker":"Blaine Rader","startTime":2851.33,"endTime":2855.2599999999998,"body":"enjoyed joy that from, from a"},{"speaker":"Blaine Rader","startTime":2851.33,"endTime":2855.2599999999998,"body":"university perspective, and"},{"speaker":"Blaine Rader","startTime":2855.2599999999998,"endTime":2859.5499999999997,"body":"continue to enjoy that with a"},{"speaker":"Blaine Rader","startTime":2855.2599999999998,"endTime":2859.5499999999997,"body":"lot of different people at Cook"},{"speaker":"Blaine Rader","startTime":2859.5499999999997,"endTime":2862.13,"body":"or elsewhere around the world."},{"speaker":"Blaine Rader","startTime":2859.5499999999997,"endTime":2862.13,"body":"So happy to happy to have"},{"speaker":"Blaine Rader","startTime":2862.13,"endTime":2862.94,"body":"conversations."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2863.93,"endTime":2866.57,"body":"Wonderful, thank"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2863.93,"endTime":2866.57,"body":"you. Well, I will make sure your"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2866.57,"endTime":2869.93,"body":"email address gets into the show"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2866.57,"endTime":2869.93,"body":"notes. And we'll have maybe a"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2869.96,"endTime":2874.49,"body":"linked link to your LinkedIn"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2869.96,"endTime":2874.49,"body":"page as well. Thank you again,"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2874.49,"endTime":2876.89,"body":"so much, Blaine. This is this"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2874.49,"endTime":2876.89,"body":"has been wonderful."},{"speaker":"Blaine Rader","startTime":2877.1,"endTime":2879.56,"body":"Well, thank you"},{"speaker":"Blaine Rader","startTime":2877.1,"endTime":2879.56,"body":"very much. I'm happy to happy to"},{"speaker":"Blaine Rader","startTime":2879.56,"endTime":2881.63,"body":"do it. So have a great evening."},{"speaker":"Blaine Rader","startTime":2879.56,"endTime":2881.63,"body":"Thanks."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2885.46,"endTime":2888.79,"body":"I'm Aaron Moncur,"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2885.46,"endTime":2888.79,"body":"founder of Pipeline Design and"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2888.79,"endTime":2891.97,"body":"Engineering. If you liked what"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2888.79,"endTime":2891.97,"body":"you heard today, please leave us"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2891.97,"endTime":2894.94,"body":"a positive review. It really"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2891.97,"endTime":2894.94,"body":"helps other people find the"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2894.94,"endTime":2898.2999999999997,"body":"show. 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