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So we disagree"},{"speaker":"Guna Selvaduray","startTime":3008.29,"endTime":3013.2999999999997,"body":"with things, but I think that's"},{"speaker":"Guna Selvaduray","startTime":3013.54,"endTime":3017.77,"body":"because I'm not disagreeing with"},{"speaker":"Guna Selvaduray","startTime":3013.54,"endTime":3017.77,"body":"you. I'm disagreeing with. We"},{"speaker":"Guna Selvaduray","startTime":3017.77,"endTime":3021.25,"body":"agree on the objective. But"},{"speaker":"Guna Selvaduray","startTime":3017.77,"endTime":3021.25,"body":"it's, we both want to get there."},{"speaker":"Guna Selvaduray","startTime":3021.88,"endTime":3026.95,"body":"Right. But how well do we get"},{"speaker":"Guna Selvaduray","startTime":3021.88,"endTime":3026.95,"body":"there? Yeah, it's working"},{"speaker":"Guna Selvaduray","startTime":3026.95,"endTime":3031.06,"body":"together. Just because we"},{"speaker":"Guna Selvaduray","startTime":3026.95,"endTime":3031.06,"body":"disagree doesn't mean we don't"},{"speaker":"Guna Selvaduray","startTime":3031.06,"endTime":3034.93,"body":"like each other. It's not a"},{"speaker":"Guna Selvaduray","startTime":3031.06,"endTime":3034.93,"body":"personal disagreement. It is"},{"speaker":"Guna Selvaduray","startTime":3035.59,"endTime":3036.2799999999997,"body":"objective."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3036.82,"endTime":3041.11,"body":"Yeah. I love that"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3036.82,"endTime":3041.11,"body":"you mentioned intentionally"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3041.11,"endTime":3044.14,"body":"building your faculty with"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3041.11,"endTime":3044.14,"body":"people that you enjoy being"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3044.14,"endTime":3047.65,"body":"around people who you trust,"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3044.14,"endTime":3047.65,"body":"right? I mentioned this on the"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3047.65,"endTime":3051.16,"body":"show before, but I think it's"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3047.65,"endTime":3051.16,"body":"such a great example that I'm"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3051.16,"endTime":3054.07,"body":"going to bring it up again, this"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3051.16,"endTime":3054.07,"body":"company Menlo Innovations, they"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3054.07,"endTime":3057.25,"body":"they're a software development"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3054.07,"endTime":3057.25,"body":"company, and I can't remember"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3057.25,"endTime":3061.63,"body":"where now, Wisconsin or"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3057.25,"endTime":3061.63,"body":"something. But they, when they"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3061.63,"endTime":3066.58,"body":"hire new people, the way they"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3061.63,"endTime":3066.58,"body":"evaluate new candidates is they"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3066.58,"endTime":3068.74,"body":"bring them in for a day and they"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3066.58,"endTime":3068.74,"body":"tell the candidate your"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3068.74,"endTime":3071.7999999999997,"body":"objective today is to make your"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3068.74,"endTime":3071.7999999999997,"body":"partner look good. And then they"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3071.7999999999997,"endTime":3074.59,"body":"pair that person up with another"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3071.7999999999997,"endTime":3074.59,"body":"developer and let them work"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3074.59,"endTime":3079.24,"body":"together. And and at the end of"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3074.59,"endTime":3079.24,"body":"the day, they evaluate did the"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3079.24,"endTime":3082.5099999999998,"body":"candidate make his or her"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3079.24,"endTime":3082.5099999999998,"body":"partner look good? And I thought"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3082.5099999999998,"endTime":3084.34,"body":"what a great way to interview"},{"speaker":"Guna Selvaduray","startTime":3084.64,"endTime":3088.0299999999997,"body":"Yeah, yeah,"},{"speaker":"Guna Selvaduray","startTime":3084.64,"endTime":3088.0299999999997,"body":"yeah, yeah. I've never heard of"},{"speaker":"Guna Selvaduray","startTime":3088.0299999999997,"endTime":3089.23,"body":"that. But that sounds great."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3089.65,"endTime":3092.98,"body":"Yeah, I love it."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3089.65,"endTime":3092.98,"body":"Well, Guna this has been"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3093.2799999999997,"endTime":3097.0,"body":"marvelous. Thank you so much for"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3093.2799999999997,"endTime":3097.0,"body":"your time today. How can people"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3097.0,"endTime":3097.7799999999997,"body":"get ahold of you?"},{"speaker":"Guna Selvaduray","startTime":3098.23,"endTime":3100.69,"body":"I think email"},{"speaker":"Guna Selvaduray","startTime":3098.23,"endTime":3100.69,"body":"is probably the best way of"},{"speaker":"Guna Selvaduray","startTime":3100.69,"endTime":3105.22,"body":"reaching me. As I told you, I've"},{"speaker":"Guna Selvaduray","startTime":3100.69,"endTime":3105.22,"body":"got no Facebook account or"},{"speaker":"Guna Selvaduray","startTime":3105.22,"endTime":3106.12,"body":"Twitter account."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3109.72,"endTime":3111.7599999999998,"body":"And they can"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3109.72,"endTime":3111.7599999999998,"body":"probably find your email address"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3111.79,"endTime":3114.5499999999997,"body":"at the university's website."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3111.79,"endTime":3114.5499999999997,"body":"Yeah, San Jose State."},{"speaker":"Guna Selvaduray","startTime":3114.82,"endTime":3119.65,"body":"It is my first"},{"speaker":"Guna Selvaduray","startTime":3114.82,"endTime":3119.65,"body":"name. guna.selvaduray@sjsu.edu."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3124.24,"endTime":3126.4,"body":"Terrific."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3124.24,"endTime":3126.4,"body":"Terrific. Okay."},{"speaker":"Guna Selvaduray","startTime":3126.4,"endTime":3128.56,"body":"Thank you very"},{"speaker":"Guna Selvaduray","startTime":3126.4,"endTime":3128.56,"body":"much, Aaron. You know, this is a"},{"speaker":"Guna Selvaduray","startTime":3128.56,"endTime":3132.94,"body":"first time experience for me."},{"speaker":"Guna Selvaduray","startTime":3128.56,"endTime":3132.94,"body":"I've thoroughly enjoyed it. And"},{"speaker":"Guna Selvaduray","startTime":3132.94,"endTime":3135.46,"body":"you do a marvelous job of"},{"speaker":"Guna Selvaduray","startTime":3132.94,"endTime":3135.46,"body":"keeping me relaxed."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3135.94,"endTime":3138.58,"body":"You're very kind."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3135.94,"endTime":3138.58,"body":"What a tremendous compliment."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3138.58,"endTime":3143.0499999999997,"body":"Thank you. Alright, Guna. Well,"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3138.58,"endTime":3143.0499999999997,"body":"until next time, thank you for"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3143.0499999999997,"endTime":3145.15,"body":"joining us on The Being an"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3143.0499999999997,"endTime":3145.15,"body":"Engineer Podcast."},{"speaker":"Guna Selvaduray","startTime":3145.21,"endTime":3148.15,"body":"Thank you. Have"},{"speaker":"Guna Selvaduray","startTime":3145.21,"endTime":3148.15,"body":"a good day, Aaron. And good"},{"speaker":"Guna Selvaduray","startTime":3148.15,"endTime":3148.45,"body":"luck."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3148.66,"endTime":3149.2599999999998,"body":"Thank you."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3153.0099999999998,"endTime":3156.46,"body":"I'm Aaron Moncur, founder of"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3153.0099999999998,"endTime":3156.46,"body":"Pipeline Design, and"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3156.46,"endTime":3159.49,"body":"Engineering. If you liked what"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3156.46,"endTime":3159.49,"body":"you heard today, please share"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":3159.49,"endTime":3163.0299999999997,"body":"the episode. 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